Jaw Frontal Angle Flawed

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So as you know the last few years of Looksmaxxing harmony sheets were exposed to the people. A lot of the ratios are good but one that sticks out especially is the Jaw Frontal angle, and I will tell you the problems of it and why its flawed

First thing to address, the ratio itself is not a clinical way to measure. It hasnt been verified by doctors. So that for now

Now how the Angle works lets call it JFA

It takes the angle from both of the middle (or lowest ) part of your gonions, all the way down to the middle point which is beneath your chin so that it creates a V shaped angle

The other 2 points are located on the widest part of your chin

The lines should perfectly outline your mandible body without any excess stuff over the lines

However what it DOESNT account for is that not everyone posesses a wide sharp jaw ( bodyfat is irrelevant) , some peoples gonions are very inwardly placed which makes the jaw slope very rounded or nonexistent

You could take Sean O pry as an example, however he does have a wide chin so the JFA is still somewhat measureable. And Jorge Del Rio as a comparison of someone with flared gonions

Screenshot 20260805 211616 Google
Screenshot 20260805 211725 Google


Some people with this issue are people with rounder faces, particularly females as its a dimorphic trait.
And what makes things 'worse' for them is their chin width/height which will affect the ratio a lot

The problem with detecting the points for the JFA is the excess BONE protruding out of the line

Here is an example:

Screenshot 20260805 210055 Photo Editor

As you see we have detected the gonion points and the widest part of the chin
HOWEVER the excess bone protrudes out of the line, which technically would make the mapping wrong

But since Its a rounded line, there will be no point that would make the lines go fully straight covering the entire skin

Unless its mapped on the very bottom like this:

Screenshot 20260805 210326 Chrome



This angle would indicate a T7 flaw which obviously isnt the case

If Id have shown you a minecraft block shaped face with the same angle, the flaw would be identical to each other which it isnt, and visually as you can see the angle isnt super flat

However if we would have done it the traditional way the results come out pretty good:

Screenshot 20260805 210533 Chrome


You may not see the excess skin because of the numbers covering it, but Ive showed you the comparison before

However the main point of measuring the actual Jaw angle has not been fulfilled as Its just anatomically speaking impossible

There has to be a new measurement made for it

This is also a bigger problem since the JFA makes up whole 25 points out of 296 from the harmony sheet, which is 8% and pretty much would make you go from a 5.7/10 to a 6.5/10 in frontal harmony

Here is an irl example:

Screenshot 20260805 205729 Google
 
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I was just speaking about this with someone else.
Thank's for the post, will read in a bit once I'm done with my studies.
 
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