Jaw, hormones, and attraction

[Chinacurry]

So I have been thinking a lot about this as I walk around in public, supermarkets, restaurants, office, etc.

One thing that strikes me is that regardless of race, vast majority of population has sub par jaw.

Then I was thinking of UFC fighters, and I can't think of a single one who actually has a bad jaw, despite how much beating they have taken.

So then my question becomes-

1) what can drive the correlation (and is it hormonal) between good jaws and fighting success/aggression?

2) if a guy has a good strong jaw then what can make him unattractive? As in can a jaw be too strong, or is it just that he could still have bad harmony??

Gonna tag some known high IQcels

@stamaster21 @VicMackey @MakinItHappenReturn @Ethereal @danielwu @Chadethnic101 @FailedNormieManlet

 

[Deleted member 15099]

Strong jaws are correlated with higher prenatal t, don't know much else tbh. A strong jaw can be less attractive if wider than the zygos, it makes you look a bit bloated. Still better than a weak jaw tbh

 

[Chinacurry]

Strong jaws are correlated with higher prenatal t, don't know much else tbh. A strong jaw can be less attractive if wider than the zygos, it makes you look a bit bloated. Still better than a weak jaw tbh
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Yes but strong jaw wider than zygos are a meme, very rare IRL.

High pre natal T makes sense, but won't that be more common?? VAST majority of people I see have shit jaw.

If higher pre natal T means better jaw, then it reasons it would also make more aggression, prob make them fuck harder too

 

[Chinacurry]

Strong jaws are correlated with higher prenatal t, don't know much else tbh. A strong jaw can be less attractive if wider than the zygos, it makes you look a bit bloated. Still better than a weak jaw tbh
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Yes but strong jaw wider than zygos are a meme, very rare IRL.

High pre natal T makes sense, but won't that be more common?? VAST majority of people I see have shit jaw.

If higher pre natal T means better jaw, then it reasons it would also make more aggression, prob make them fuck harder too

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

No.

This has been debunked in 2020 during the pandemic.

Videos have been done on it.

If it were down to hormones then kPop stars wouldn't have these jaws:

Highly estrogen filled chinks with sexy definition, sharpness and forward growth.
































































Now look at these roid junkies

 

[Deleted member 15099]

Yes but strong jaw wider than zygos are a meme, very rare IRL.

High pre natal T makes sense, but won't that be more common?? VAST majority of people I see have shit jaw.

If higher pre natal T means better jaw, then it reasons it would also make more aggression, prob make them fuck harder too

idk, shit lifestyle and diet. Chemicals that affect hormones have been said to be in water, I don know much about that. Higher prenatal t is also correlated with physical strength, so fucking harder during sex makes sense

 

[Chinacurry]

No.

This has been debunked in 2020 during the pandemic.

Videos have been done on it.

If it were down to hormones then kPop stars wouldn't have these jaws:

Highly estrogen filled chinks with sexy definition, sharpness and forward growth.
































































Now look at these roid junkies

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Couldn't the ricemen jaws all be surgery?? I think every K-pop person is enhanced, every single one.

Agree on your point re Rock and Vin Diesel, but @Ethereal hypothesised it was pre natal T, possibly these 2 guys are just roid junkies who got on it post puberty, not guys with high natural T? Neither of these 2 appears to be a High T guy when out of character, and both appear to be quite jestermaxxed

 

[Deleted member 15099]

No.

This has been debunked in 2020 during the pandemic.

Videos have been done on it.

If it were down to hormones then kPop stars wouldn't have these jaws:

Highly estrogen filled chinks with sexy definition, sharpness and forward growth.
































































Now look at these roid junkies

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pretty sure they got surgery

 

[Aesthetics_III]

If you’re in the west, most men you’re seeing are skinny fat so there jaws are hidden. And also, most men these days just don’t have good jaws

 

[Deleted member 15099]

Agree on your point re Rock and Vin Diesel, but @Ethereal hypothesised it was pre natal T, possibly these 2 guys are just roid junkies who got on it post puberty, not guys with high natural T? Neither of these 2 appears to be a High T guy when out of character, and both appear to be quite jestermaxxed

the rock had a fairly good jaw when he was young, I think the roids are a big looksmin for him imo. Vin Diesel Iḿ not sure

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Couldn't the ricemen jaws all be surgery?? I think every K-pop person is enhanced, every single one.

Agree on your point re Rock and Vin Diesel, but @Ethereal hypothesised it was pre natal T, possibly these 2 guys are just roid junkies who got on it post puberty, not guys with high natural T? Neither of these 2 appears to be a High T guy when out of character, and both appear to be quite jestermaxxed

Dude stop talking, your IQ is too low for this. No offence.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Watch the first 10 minutes




Debunks testosterone.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

pretty sure they got surgery

No lol you fucking moron

Watch the video above

 

[Deleted member 13332]

you definitely need a certain physiognomy to achieve success in mma
i dont think its possible to make it to ufc without jaw dominating neurocranium, aka lower third should be the biggest

 

[Chadethnic101]

So I have been thinking a lot about this as I walk around in public, supermarkets, restaurants, office, etc.

One thing that strikes me is that regardless of race, vast majority of population has sub par jaw.

Then I was thinking of UFC fighters, and I can't think of a single one who actually has a bad jaw, despite how much beating they have taken.

So then my question becomes-

1) what can drive the correlation (and is it hormonal) between good jaws and fighting success/aggression?

2) if a guy has a good strong jaw then what can make him unattractive? As in can a jaw be too strong, or is it just that he could still have bad harmony??

Gonna tag some known high IQcels

@stamaster21 @VicMackey @MakinItHappenReturn @Ethereal @danielwu @Chadethnic101 @FailedNormieManlet

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Im convinced this is to do with pre natal T- but environment too, eg you could genetically be due to have a mogger jaw but environmental factors such as allergies and mouth breathing can not allow the genetics to come into play. Leaving a more recessed jaw.
There is defo a positive correlation typically between good jaws and fighting success I'd say.

What can make a jaw mogger unattractive is a bad eye area for sure, balding (sometimes) and ogre harmony.

Mind many of the pics u posted have roided which defo affects your facial structure over time I'm convinced.
Conor McGregor is also a beard frauder

 

[Chadethnic101]

So I have been thinking a lot about this as I walk around in public, supermarkets, restaurants, office, etc.

One thing that strikes me is that regardless of race, vast majority of population has sub par jaw.

Then I was thinking of UFC fighters, and I can't think of a single one who actually has a bad jaw, despite how much beating they have taken.

So then my question becomes-

1) what can drive the correlation (and is it hormonal) between good jaws and fighting success/aggression?

2) if a guy has a good strong jaw then what can make him unattractive? As in can a jaw be too strong, or is it just that he could still have bad harmony??

Gonna tag some known high IQcels

@stamaster21 @VicMackey @MakinItHappenReturn @Ethereal @danielwu @Chadethnic101 @FailedNormieManlet

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Im convinced this is to do with pre natal T- but environment too, eg you could genetically be due to have a mogger jaw but environmental factors such as allergies and mouth breathing can not allow the genetics to come into play. Leaving a more recessed jaw.
There is defo a positive correlation typically between good jaws and fighting success I'd say.

What can make a jaw mogger unattractive is a bad eye area for sure, balding (sometimes) and ogre harmony.

Mind many of the pics u posted have roided which defo affects your facial structure over time I'm convinced.
Conor McGregor is also a beard frauder

 

[Deleted member 13332]

No.

This has been debunked in 2020 during the pandemic.

Videos have been done on it.

If it were down to hormones then kPop stars wouldn't have these jaws:

Highly estrogen filled chinks with sexy definition, sharpness and forward growth.
































































Now look at these roid junkies

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vin diesel and rock doesnt have high fightin success face, even if they dedicated their life to mma they would never achieve anything great

these guys have perfect phyisognomy for fighting




never wondered why all football strikers are masc guys with big jaws or straight up ogre?

 

[Chadethnic101]

Do I have a high fighting success face?

 

[Chinacurry]

vin diesel and rock doesnt have high fightin success face, even if they dedicated their life to mma they would never achieve anything great

these guys have perfect phyisognomy for fighting




never wondered why all football strikers are masc guys with big jaws or straight up ogre?

Yeah agree, I was saying rock and vin diesel seemed to be roid frauded.

What makes u say Rockhold has the right physiognomy?

Are football strikers all Dom masc?? U mean like old school number 9s cos it used to be a v physical position, like shearer, Ferguson, Hughes, Giroud, Costa??

 

[Chinacurry]

vin diesel and rock doesnt have high fightin success face, even if they dedicated their life to mma they would never achieve anything great

these guys have perfect phyisognomy for fighting




never wondered why all football strikers are masc guys with big jaws or straight up ogre?

Yeah agree, I was saying rock and vin diesel seemed to be roid frauded.

What makes u say Rockhold has the right physiognomy?

Are football strikers all Dom masc?? U mean like old school number 9s cos it used to be a v physical position, like shearer, Ferguson, Hughes, Giroud, Costa??

 

[Chinacurry]

Do I have a high fighting success face?

I mean I'm no expert but yeah I think so.

Weirs thing is you have abs and visible intercostal muscles so your bodyfat must be super low, I'd guess your cheekbones pop much more?

 

[Deleted member 13332]

Yeah agree, I was saying rock and vin diesel seemed to be roid frauded.

What makes u say Rockhold has the right physiognomy?

Are football strikers all Dom masc?? U mean like old school number 9s cos it used to be a v physical position, like shearer, Ferguson, Hughes, Giroud, Costa??

yes all strikers in football have masculine fatial third ratios, where lower third is fairly big (i.e luka modric would never be good striker like cavani ) not all strikers are dom tho, but have masc bone structure

rockhold

hooded eyes, tall chin, dom jaw, lower third dominates, well developed forehead, looks like ogre

 

[Chadethnic101]

I mean I'm no expert but yeah I think so.

Weirs thing is you have abs and visible intercostal muscles so your bodyfat must be super low, I'd guess your cheekbones pop much more?

I don't really have too visible abs atm but when I do my face changes slightly- the bloat in the Malar region goes away and cheekbones do pop more
Even when clean shaven men still don't respect me as much the stubble makes men respect me noticeably it's crazy

 

[Deleted member 17461]

idk bro but it seems like a good jaw with a nice zygos is rare nowdays.
I feel like a good lower third is much more rare than a good eye area.
I see lots of nice eye areas, but barely see a nice lower third.

 

[Chinacurry]

idk bro but it seems like a good jaw with a nice zygos is rare nowdays.
I feel like a good lower third is much more rare than a good eye area.
I see lots of nice eye areas, but barely see a nice lower third.

Yes I agree, v v rare. I also think most men squintmaxx a lot now, so people think they have good eye area.

My eye area is average but lower third is good, so I need to maximise my return on it

 

[Gaia262]

No.

This has been debunked in 2020 during the pandemic.

Videos have been done on it.

If it were down to hormones then kPop stars wouldn't have these jaws:

Highly estrogen filled chinks with sexy definition, sharpness and forward growth.
































































Now look at these roid junkies

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Yes this is correct, this also goes for women who can have a good jawline but no testosterone. Also pretty-boys who have good bony structure but subpar T levels.

Its actually a question i wanted to know the root cause of craniofacial recessions.

Environment plays a role but we are all subjected to the same levels of toxicity so we should all devolve at the same rate.

It's most likely just 80% genetics and 20% environment.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Yes this is correct, this also goes for women who can have a good jawline but no testosterone. Also pretty-boys who have good bony structure but subpar T levels.

Its actually a question i wanted to know the root cause of craniofacial recessions.

Environment plays a role but we are all subjected to the same levels of toxicity so we should all devolve at the same rate.

It's most likely just 80% genetics and 20% environment.

Yup.

 

[Deleted member 15674]

So I have been thinking a lot about this as I walk around in public, supermarkets, restaurants, office, etc.

One thing that strikes me is that regardless of race, vast majority of population has sub par jaw.

Then I was thinking of UFC fighters, and I can't think of a single one who actually has a bad jaw, despite how much beating they have taken.

So then my question becomes-

1) what can drive the correlation (and is it hormonal) between good jaws and fighting success/aggression?

2) if a guy has a good strong jaw then what can make him unattractive? As in can a jaw be too strong, or is it just that he could still have bad harmony??

Gonna tag some known high IQcels

@stamaster21 @VicMackey @MakinItHappenReturn @Ethereal @danielwu @Chadethnic101 @FailedNormieManlet

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most ufc fighters are literally cutting down to sub 10% bf, being at such a low bf% will make your jaw stand out. Also I do think you need to be somewhat at least avg T to really get into combat sports.

 

[2d v2]

Strong jaws are correlated with higher prenatal t, don't know much else tbh. A strong jaw can be less attractive if wider than the zygos, it makes you look a bit bloated. Still better than a weak jaw tbh
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brad pitt didnt have jaw genetics. Look at the muscle bumps in his face, it's from spot injections of steroids. It's why his head changes shape so much over the course of his life.

 

[AscendingHero]

No.

This has been debunked in 2020 during the pandemic.

Videos have been done on it.

If it were down to hormones then kPop stars wouldn't have these jaws:

Highly estrogen filled chinks with sexy definition, sharpness and forward growth.
































































Now look at these roid junkies

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1) Kpop stars are frauding makeup surgerymaxxed twinks

2) Cranoiofacial growth is mostly responsible for the projection and shape of maxila and inferior maxila (mandible)

3) Hormones like igf-1 and androgens in general also have a profound effect on the jaw.

Also of all this water info, established from like 2019, shit thread OP. Just do some simple searches, you've been here since 19' ffs

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

1) Kpop stars are frauding makeup surgerymaxxed twinks

2) Cranoiofacial growth is mostly responsible for the projection and shape of maxila and inferior maxila (mandible)

3) Hormones like igf-1 and androgens in general also have a profound effect on the jaw.

Also of all this water info, established from like 2019, shit thread OP. Just do some simple searches, you've been here since 19' ffs

No been here since 2020 middle. Pandemic.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

1) Kpop stars are frauding makeup surgerymaxxed twinks

2) Cranoiofacial growth is mostly responsible for the projection and shape of maxila and inferior maxila (mandible)

3) Hormones like igf-1 and androgens in general also have a profound effect on the jaw.

Also of all this water info, established from like 2019, shit thread OP. Just do some simple searches, you've been here since 19' ffs

Been here since mid 2020 pandemic, but anyway I researched and the kpop guys and girls have been getting surgery but not to get jawlines like those.

Those are largely from their own genetics

They are KOREAN

 

[AscendingHero]

Been here since mid 2020 pandemic, but anyway I researched and the kpop guys and girls have been getting surgery but not to get jawlines like those.

Those are largely from their own genetics

They are KOREAN

You're wrong ravi, go back to making posts cussing with ur shirt off for incels' entertainment

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

So I have been thinking a lot about this as I walk around in public, supermarkets, restaurants, office, etc.

One thing that strikes me is that regardless of race, vast majority of population has sub par jaw.

Then I was thinking of UFC fighters, and I can't think of a single one who actually has a bad jaw, despite how much beating they have taken.

So then my question becomes-

1) what can drive the correlation (and is it hormonal) between good jaws and fighting success/aggression?

2) if a guy has a good strong jaw then what can make him unattractive? As in can a jaw be too strong, or is it just that he could still have bad harmony??

Gonna tag some known high IQcels

@stamaster21 @VicMackey @MakinItHappenReturn @Ethereal @danielwu @Chadethnic101 @FailedNormieManlet

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Brock lesnar has gigamogger bones and a awful colouring phenotype. If he had Stallone colouring he would be much better looking.

 

[Chinacurry]

Brock lesnar has gigamogger bones and a awful colouring phenotype. If he had Stallone colouring he would be much better looking.

Yes defo.

I think Cain has the best bones.

SFcels and noodlewhores will prefer Brock colouring over Stallone

 

[Deleted member 4231]

No.

This has been debunked in 2020 during the pandemic.

Videos have been done on it.

If it were down to hormones then kPop stars wouldn't have these jaws:

Highly estrogen filled chinks with sexy definition, sharpness and forward growth.
































































Now look at these roid junkies

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this is the jaw of that "roid monkey"

and ur ill if u think these kpop stars dont surgery or filler max