Jaw Implant flare ? all surgerons tell me this

[ImplantMaxx]

Hi, im new in this facial implant thing.

I met many surgerons about them, talking about angle flare etc, they all say that the flare is only the result of strong masseter during growth and not the opposite, it's the strong masseter developpement that pulls gonions outward.
So They claim that only jaw implant size matter rather than the so called "flare", cause it's all about masseters ratio with zygo.

So what is it ? do flare really matter in implants ?

 

[ImplantMaxx]

So if it's only bizygo/bigonial ratio that matters, the jaw flare dosent matter cause it's only about the the needed size.
The role of implant would be only to push out masseter towards zygo, doesn't matter his shape.

most important if low bf also

 

[Deleted member 17244]

its not looksmaxing forum, none will tell u

 

[RazerGlazer]

@RealSurgerymax

 

[madcap88]

you can still get a bit of that look. but can be hard without being uncanny. they are somewhat correct.

and yes, most people here post about silly stuff, and reality is most people on this planet will never have the resources to even get surgery. brutal but truth

 

[ImplantMaxx]

Yeah i read a lot of topics in here about this flared implant subject.
Everybody claims indirectly to be sort of an expert but even surgerons can't tell what results is gonna be even if they did tens of them on differents types of patients

Scientific fact is this :
It's a strong masseter developpement that pulls out gonions bone during human growth, it's not flared gonion growth that pushes the masseter out like all people seems to claim.
This is juge mistake people tend to make

All you get via jaw implant is gaining size to improuve bizygo/bigonial ratio that's it, and you have to associate it with low BF% at very least 15% 12% is ideal. otherwise you can have the best gentics in the world it will never appear.

Lot of guys end with botched jaw implant results cause they go against nature with an implant designed against their masseter attachement and looks uncanny.
OFC if a guy have a very steep rounded angle, he will imrpouve some angularity, but for a regular guy it will be botched.
If you improuve bigonial width, you will gain angularity no matter the design, cause you'll have a straight ramus crossing with mandible towards chin.
Angle is a consequence of width + projection, not the cause = other mistake that people tend to make

Proof is simple : look all nice jaw in men or women, you'll have different shapes, some high angles some low.
Some really sharp lines, some pretty rounded etc.
Chin also : some pointed some squared etc..

Nice jaw is = good width + good projection.
That's it. That is why you see differents types of jaw but all of em are great.

Honestly i think good zygo/gonial ratio about 85 to 99% + 12/15bf max is good for all men.
But yeah lot of guys comments here likes experts but nobody had jaw implant or really met surgerons.

 

[Deleted member 13710]

Hi, im new in this facial implant thing.

I met many surgerons about them, talking about angle flare etc, they all say that the flare is only the result of strong masseter during growth and not the opposite, it's the strong masseter developpement that pulls gonions outward.

This is the French guy who already has a jaw implant plan, right? Just a new account?

The answer is no. Masseters don't make your gonions flare out, the add mass to the center of your face, giving you a bloated look.

 

[Aypo129]

I dont think so

 

[RazerGlazer]

Yeah i read a lot of topics in here about this flared implant subject.
Everybody claims indirectly to be sort of an expert but even surgerons can't tell what results is gonna be even if they did tens of them on differents types of patients

Scientific fact is this :
It's a strong masseter developpement that pulls out gonions bone during human growth, it's not flared gonion growth that pushes the masseter out like all people seems to claim.
This is juge mistake people tend to make

All you get via jaw implant is gaining size to improuve bizygo/bigonial ratio that's it, and you have to associate it with low BF% at very least 15% 12% is ideal. otherwise you can have the best gentics in the world it will never appear.

Lot of guys end with botched jaw implant results cause they go against nature with an implant designed against their masseter attachement and looks uncanny.
OFC if a guy have a very steep rounded angle, he will imrpouve some angularity, but for a regular guy it will be botched.
If you improuve bigonial width, you will gain angularity no matter the design, cause you'll have a straight ramus crossing with mandible towards chin.
Angle is a consequence of width + projection, not the cause = other mistake that people tend to make

Proof is simple : look all nice jaw in men or women, you'll have different shapes, some high angles some low.
Some really sharp lines, some pretty rounded etc.
Chin also : some pointed some squared etc..

Nice jaw is = good width + good projection.
That's it. That is why you see differents types of jaw but all of em are great.

Honestly i think good zygo/gonial ratio about 85 to 99% + 12/15bf max is good for all men.
But yeah lot of guys comments here likes experts but nobody had jaw implant or really met surgerons.

i will come with a follow up on this in 7-8 months and let you know.

got my implants and my design looks like this

you can clearly see how flare the gonials are. we will see if your theory is right or not

 

[Deleted member 19957]

That's literally the same french guy who already made a billion post on the EXACT SAME TOPIC, but with another account. I swear that dude got some mental health issues.

 

[RazerGlazer]

That's literally the same french guy who already made a billion post on the EXACT SAME TOPIC, but with another account. I swear that dude got some mental health issues.

https://looksmax.org/members/looksmaxerfr13.21281/

I this OP and this guy are the same, lol

 

[Deleted member 19957]

Yea, they both make the same spelling mistakes. I swear this is becomming cringy af.

 

[ImplantMaxx]

This is the French guy who already has a jaw implant plan, right? Just a new account?

The answer is no. Masseters don't make your gonions flare out, the add mass to the center of your face, giving you a bloated look.

wtf ? i have zero implant.
Can't afford them.

i'm talking about human growth developpement during puberty genius
People here claim that nice men CT Scans got flared gonions, so designs should be flared.
Science explains that it's strong masseter developpement during puberty that pulls out jaw bone, it's not strong bone that pushes masseter out.
I'm talking about puberty growth not implant on grown man

 

[ImplantMaxx]

i will come with a follow up on this in 7-8 months and let you know.

got my implants and my design looks like this

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you can clearly see how flare the gonials are. we will see if your theory is right or not

what is your definition of flare exactly ?
can you show profile ?

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Chewing theoretically should work...

Has anyone actually taken chewing seriously and followed a hypertrophic diet and training protocol for increasing strength? There's a direct correlation between masseter strength/size and ramus development. Not sure if it's causation or correlation ie. strong masseters = better jaw vs being...

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