The most brutal truth Asians don’t want to hear

[Joshrc]

Cope thread, ppl hate to admit that asians can and are seen as attractive

U are asian

 

[VrillFatNoob24]

 

[copercel123]

In this thread I’m talking about Asians MEN not women duh.
Disclaimer-
This thread isn’t to insult or discourage it’s about clarity and survival strategy. Accept reality, then dominate it.

Bad formatting beacuse I’m lazy

if your Asian it’s beyond over and I’m sorrry but that’s the honest truth, your playing on hard mode even if your htn.
I saw so many Asians here saying that softmaxxes don’t work for them, and it’s making me sad and pissed off at the same time, they realy don’t learn their phenotype’s capability before even trying to ascend?
I mean an Asian trying to fix their flaws are almost impossible.
it’s better being any other ethnic being rather than Asian.

softmaxxing fails Asians-

Asians genetics sets them up to fail in today modern standards beacuse of their brutal pheno- feminine, soft etc.

Most East Asians are born with a phenotype that directly contradicts the aesthetic ideals of modern masculinity, especially in Western influenced societies:​

1. Brachycephalic skulls — wide but shallow - flat midface​
2. Recessed orbital rims —no depth, no eye area shadows​
3. Low nasal bridge— profile looks soft and undefined​
4. Round jaw with high gonial angle — no visual testosterone cues​
5. Small mandible — minimal facial width, poor lower third​
6. Lack of supratarsal— ugly and feminine eyes —great thread that explains it well- by @Racky Thread 'Double eyelid creases'https://looksmax.org/threads/double-eyelid-creases.539190/​
7. No hair in the eye area ( lashes, brows)​

And that makes them look feminine, soft, and like cutecels which is brutal in today society.



They are trapped in a low androgen low dimophism.:

they don’t just look younger, their body is hormonally yoyunger aswell.​

1. Lower average testosterone - less jaw, less brow, less body hair​
2. Lower DHT expression - poor secondary sexual traits (voice, beard, bone)​
3. Higher facial neoteny - perpetually soft and smooth​

What this basically mean-​

1. Your face doesn’t mature into masculinity.​
2. You don’t get the roughness or structure that age gives Meds or Slavs.​
3. You just get older and thinner looking, not hotter.​

You can’t out age your bad skul .
That’s cope.


They are playimg in the wrong game in the wrong arena-

Most Asians are being bullied by Western, Med, or hypermasculine standards, and East Asian genetics don’t match that.

Before yall say “but look how many girls love k-pop stars” then yeah they love their status and money, not their face, they look like average normie asian.

In Europe they get bullied so badly, i was in Europe a few months ago and saw how different they are in Europe, I mean they look like total twinks.


Softmaxxing is pointlesss if your Asian-


Mewing?

Does nothing without:​

• Forward growth potential​
• Sufficient sutural elasticity​
• Bone density and room to grow​

Gymmaxxing?

Muscle = good, but it can’t:​

• Reshape your skull​
• Fix flat cheeks​
• Push out your chin​
• Deepen your eyes​

You’ll end up looking like:​

• A swole babyface​
• A gymcel with a soft jaw​
• A Korean idol cosplayer who’s trying to be Slavic​

Skincare, fat loss, style?

Improves texture. Not shape.
Improves cleanliness. Not masculinity.
Improves first impression. Not retention.


You’re polishing a rounded, prepubescent silhouette.
No amount of moisturizer will give you a deep orbital trough.



Stuff Asians should do (strong softmaxxes and roids combined)-


You already waited long enough to ascend but… that isn’t happening.

What they should do at 14-19 ( before hardmaxxing which we are going to touch later) :

Their goal at this age is to:​

1. Deepen voice​
2. Sharpen facial structure​
3. Reduce facial fat​
4. Improve bone visibility​
5. Reverse neoteny​
6. Increase sexual dimorphism​
7. Grow lashes and brows​

What they can do-
What I say here isn’t 100% guarantees that you will become a chad, but it’s better than not trying at all.


Deepen voice​

1. test E- Androgenization of vocal cords over time​
2. Choline + Inositol- Supports vagus nerve tone & vocal strength​

HGH and other hormones/peptides for height, muscles, dimorphism and bonemass-
Im not talking here money wise but I’m talking effectively wise — if you would like to find cheaper sources - find yourself I guess.​

1. Pharma HGH (e.g genotropin, norditropin)- I shouldn’t explain why right?​
2. CJC with dac + ipamorelin - shouldn’t explain why either.​
3. Ghrp6/2- shouldn’t aswell​
4. Tb-500- Accelerates recovery of facial fascia/masseter​
5. Tren- for major gymcelling​
6. Anavar- for gymcelling aswell​
7. Tadalfil (optional)​
8. IGF-1 lr3 (not realy good and I won’t get into it now but that is optional)​
9. Test (duh) - most Asians have high shbg which means they have low free test and weak androgenic effect. Test keeps estrogen manageable and gives slow, aesthetic remodeling.​
10. Oxandrolone- for better dimorphism​

Pair RU and dut with these because you don’t want to lose your hair aren’t you?


For skin and hair growth-
Even tho Asians have great skin, there’s always how to improve-​

1. Ghk cu- the most common and basic shit for skin, helps hair growth aswell.​
2. Accutane - only if your acne is very bad.​
3. Castor/oral castor oil- one of the best oil out there for hair growth that have minimal to zero side effects.but you need to be consistent.​
4. oral/ topical minox- topical: great for hair growth but just a couple of problems - can cause irritation and you can’t put it on your lashes obviously. For oral minox: can bloat you and cause some skin worsening - for the bloat part- there are up to 30% of the users of oral minoxidil who reports about bloating, which is a lot — if you want to prevent that (not fully) then you can use modafinil- I won’t expand on that since @Jonasㅤㅤ⠀ ⠀Already made a great thread on it, shoutout- ⠀ Thread 'The truth about Minoxidil - The holy grail or overhyped Looksmin?'https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-minoxidil-the-holy-grail-or-overhyped-looksmin.1418609/​
5. Lattise - great just watch for the side effects.​

Now we finally got to the HARDMAXXING-​

1. Orbital rim + infras implants- Asians as you know have very recessed orbitals so adding volume there could enhance their eyes .​
2. Zygomatics implants- I don’t need to explain I guess- no zygo visibility .​
3. Sliding genio, or any other chin and mandible realignment procedure (e.g bsso, bimax, Trimax, MMA etc) - Asians lower third is mostly narrow and not good at all.​
4. Browridge implant - for more masculine side.​
5. Frontal and temple grafts or implants​
6. Blepharoplasty- for lack of supratarsal.​
7. Extreme- lefort1-lefort3, for ccw rotation.​

TLDR;
Most East Asian men are genetically disadvantaged in aesthetics due to bone structure (flat midface, CW rotation, high mandibular plane angle) and poor hormonal signaling (low free T, high SHBG, weak DHT response). These traits make softmaxxing (like gym, mewing, skincare) almost useless past a certain point. For most, the only way to compete is through hardmaxxing: surgical intervention (CCW jaw rotation, LeFort, BSSO, infraorbital augmentation) combined with a hormonal and peptide-based protocol. It’s not about giving up—it’s about accepting biological reality and choosing the only path that works.​

Bump.

 

[messi1]

hypermasculine standards

pov: White ogre sees his crush hugging a BTS pillow

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

In this thread I’m talking about Asians MEN not women duh.
Disclaimer-
This thread isn’t to insult or discourage it’s about clarity and survival strategy. Accept reality, then dominate it.

Bad formatting beacuse I’m lazy

if your Asian it’s beyond over and I’m sorrry but that’s the honest truth, your playing on hard mode even if your htn.
I saw so many Asians here saying that softmaxxes don’t work for them, and it’s making me sad and pissed off at the same time, they realy don’t learn their phenotype’s capability before even trying to ascend?
I mean an Asian trying to fix their flaws are almost impossible.
it’s better being any other ethnic being rather than Asian.

softmaxxing fails Asians-

Asians genetics sets them up to fail in today modern standards beacuse of their brutal pheno- feminine, soft etc.

Most East Asians are born with a phenotype that directly contradicts the aesthetic ideals of modern masculinity, especially in Western influenced societies:​

1. Brachycephalic skulls — wide but shallow - flat midface​
2. Recessed orbital rims —no depth, no eye area shadows​
3. Low nasal bridge— profile looks soft and undefined​
4. Round jaw with high gonial angle — no visual testosterone cues​
5. Small mandible — minimal facial width, poor lower third​
6. Lack of supratarsal— ugly and feminine eyes —great thread that explains it well- by @Racky Thread 'Double eyelid creases'https://looksmax.org/threads/double-eyelid-creases.539190/​
7. No hair in the eye area ( lashes, brows)​

And that makes them look feminine, soft, and like cutecels which is brutal in today society.



They are trapped in a low androgen low dimophism.:

they don’t just look younger, their body is hormonally yoyunger aswell.​

1. Lower average testosterone - less jaw, less brow, less body hair​
2. Lower DHT expression - poor secondary sexual traits (voice, beard, bone)​
3. Higher facial neoteny - perpetually soft and smooth​

What this basically mean-​

1. Your face doesn’t mature into masculinity.​
2. You don’t get the roughness or structure that age gives Meds or Slavs.​
3. You just get older and thinner looking, not hotter.​

You can’t out age your bad skul .
That’s cope.


They are playimg in the wrong game in the wrong arena-

Most Asians are being bullied by Western, Med, or hypermasculine standards, and East Asian genetics don’t match that.

Before yall say “but look how many girls love k-pop stars” then yeah they love their status and money, not their face, they look like average normie asian.

In Europe they get bullied so badly, i was in Europe a few months ago and saw how different they are in Europe, I mean they look like total twinks.


Softmaxxing is pointlesss if your Asian-


Mewing?

Does nothing without:​

• Forward growth potential​
• Sufficient sutural elasticity​
• Bone density and room to grow​

Gymmaxxing?

Muscle = good, but it can’t:​

• Reshape your skull​
• Fix flat cheeks​
• Push out your chin​
• Deepen your eyes​

You’ll end up looking like:​

• A swole babyface​
• A gymcel with a soft jaw​
• A Korean idol cosplayer who’s trying to be Slavic​

Skincare, fat loss, style?

Improves texture. Not shape.
Improves cleanliness. Not masculinity.
Improves first impression. Not retention.


You’re polishing a rounded, prepubescent silhouette.
No amount of moisturizer will give you a deep orbital trough.



Stuff Asians should do (strong softmaxxes and roids combined)-


You already waited long enough to ascend but… that isn’t happening.

What they should do at 14-19 ( before hardmaxxing which we are going to touch later) :

Their goal at this age is to:​

1. Deepen voice​
2. Sharpen facial structure​
3. Reduce facial fat​
4. Improve bone visibility​
5. Reverse neoteny​
6. Increase sexual dimorphism​
7. Grow lashes and brows​

What they can do-
What I say here isn’t 100% guarantees that you will become a chad, but it’s better than not trying at all.


Deepen voice​

1. test E- Androgenization of vocal cords over time​
2. Choline + Inositol- Supports vagus nerve tone & vocal strength​

HGH and other hormones/peptides for height, muscles, dimorphism and bonemass-
Im not talking here money wise but I’m talking effectively wise — if you would like to find cheaper sources - find yourself I guess.​

1. Pharma HGH (e.g genotropin, norditropin)- I shouldn’t explain why right?​
2. CJC with dac + ipamorelin - shouldn’t explain why either.​
3. Ghrp6/2- shouldn’t aswell​
4. Tb-500- Accelerates recovery of facial fascia/masseter​
5. Tren- for major gymcelling​
6. Anavar- for gymcelling aswell​
7. Tadalfil (optional)​
8. IGF-1 lr3 (not realy good and I won’t get into it now but that is optional)​
9. Test (duh) - most Asians have high shbg which means they have low free test and weak androgenic effect. Test keeps estrogen manageable and gives slow, aesthetic remodeling.​
10. Oxandrolone- for better dimorphism​

Pair RU and dut with these because you don’t want to lose your hair aren’t you?


For skin and hair growth-
Even tho Asians have great skin, there’s always how to improve-​

1. Ghk cu- the most common and basic shit for skin, helps hair growth aswell.​
2. Accutane - only if your acne is very bad.​
3. Castor/oral castor oil- one of the best oil out there for hair growth that have minimal to zero side effects.but you need to be consistent.​
4. oral/ topical minox- topical: great for hair growth but just a couple of problems - can cause irritation and you can’t put it on your lashes obviously. For oral minox: can bloat you and cause some skin worsening - for the bloat part- there are up to 30% of the users of oral minoxidil who reports about bloating, which is a lot — if you want to prevent that (not fully) then you can use modafinil- I won’t expand on that since @Jonasㅤㅤ⠀ ⠀Already made a great thread on it, shoutout- ⠀ Thread 'The truth about Minoxidil - The holy grail or overhyped Looksmin?'https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-minoxidil-the-holy-grail-or-overhyped-looksmin.1418609/​
5. Lattise - great just watch for the side effects.​

Now we finally got to the HARDMAXXING-​

1. Orbital rim + infras implants- Asians as you know have very recessed orbitals so adding volume there could enhance their eyes .​
2. Zygomatics implants- I don’t need to explain I guess- no zygo visibility .​
3. Sliding genio, or any other chin and mandible realignment procedure (e.g bsso, bimax, Trimax, MMA etc) - Asians lower third is mostly narrow and not good at all.​
4. Browridge implant - for more masculine side.​
5. Frontal and temple grafts or implants​
6. Blepharoplasty- for lack of supratarsal.​
7. Extreme- lefort1-lefort3, for ccw rotation.​

TLDR;
Most East Asian men are genetically disadvantaged in aesthetics due to bone structure (flat midface, CW rotation, high mandibular plane angle) and poor hormonal signaling (low free T, high SHBG, weak DHT response). These traits make softmaxxing (like gym, mewing, skincare) almost useless past a certain point. For most, the only way to compete is through hardmaxxing: surgical intervention (CCW jaw rotation, LeFort, BSSO, infraorbital augmentation) combined with a hormonal and peptide-based protocol. It’s not about giving up—it’s about accepting biological reality and choosing the only path that works.​

 

[copercel123]

Proved my fucking point. He’s just tall (probably) and masculine with a MTN face.
He would get the same treatment in Asia that a 5’11 white MTN guy with a bit of muscle will get.

They always look so…. Boring, I mean nothing special about them, they all look the same.

 

[Copeamongcopers]

thanks god I’m half-Asian and not half East Asian

 

[garoutheincelReturn]

In this thread I’m talking about Asians MEN not women duh.
Disclaimer-
This thread isn’t to insult or discourage it’s about clarity and survival strategy. Accept reality, then dominate it.

Bad formatting beacuse I’m lazy

if your Asian it’s beyond over and I’m sorrry but that’s the honest truth, your playing on hard mode even if your htn.
I saw so many Asians here saying that softmaxxes don’t work for them, and it’s making me sad and pissed off at the same time, they realy don’t learn their phenotype’s capability before even trying to ascend?
I mean an Asian trying to fix their flaws are almost impossible.
it’s better being any other ethnic being rather than Asian.

softmaxxing fails Asians-

Asians genetics sets them up to fail in today modern standards beacuse of their brutal pheno- feminine, soft etc.

Most East Asians are born with a phenotype that directly contradicts the aesthetic ideals of modern masculinity, especially in Western influenced societies:​

1. Brachycephalic skulls — wide but shallow - flat midface​
2. Recessed orbital rims —no depth, no eye area shadows​
3. Low nasal bridge— profile looks soft and undefined​
4. Round jaw with high gonial angle — no visual testosterone cues​
5. Small mandible — minimal facial width, poor lower third​
6. Lack of supratarsal— ugly and feminine eyes —great thread that explains it well- by @Racky Thread 'Double eyelid creases'https://looksmax.org/threads/double-eyelid-creases.539190/​
7. No hair in the eye area ( lashes, brows)​

And that makes them look feminine, soft, and like cutecels which is brutal in today society.



They are trapped in a low androgen low dimophism.:

they don’t just look younger, their body is hormonally yoyunger aswell.​

1. Lower average testosterone - less jaw, less brow, less body hair​
2. Lower DHT expression - poor secondary sexual traits (voice, beard, bone)​
3. Higher facial neoteny - perpetually soft and smooth​

What this basically mean-​

1. Your face doesn’t mature into masculinity.​
2. You don’t get the roughness or structure that age gives Meds or Slavs.​
3. You just get older and thinner looking, not hotter.​

You can’t out age your bad skul .
That’s cope.


They are playimg in the wrong game in the wrong arena-

Most Asians are being bullied by Western, Med, or hypermasculine standards, and East Asian genetics don’t match that.

Before yall say “but look how many girls love k-pop stars” then yeah they love their status and money, not their face, they look like average normie asian.

In Europe they get bullied so badly, i was in Europe a few months ago and saw how different they are in Europe, I mean they look like total twinks.


Softmaxxing is pointlesss if your Asian-


Mewing?

Does nothing without:​

• Forward growth potential​
• Sufficient sutural elasticity​
• Bone density and room to grow​

Gymmaxxing?

Muscle = good, but it can’t:​

• Reshape your skull​
• Fix flat cheeks​
• Push out your chin​
• Deepen your eyes​

You’ll end up looking like:​

• A swole babyface​
• A gymcel with a soft jaw​
• A Korean idol cosplayer who’s trying to be Slavic​

Skincare, fat loss, style?

Improves texture. Not shape.
Improves cleanliness. Not masculinity.
Improves first impression. Not retention.


You’re polishing a rounded, prepubescent silhouette.
No amount of moisturizer will give you a deep orbital trough.



Stuff Asians should do (strong softmaxxes and roids combined)-


You already waited long enough to ascend but… that isn’t happening.

What they should do at 14-19 ( before hardmaxxing which we are going to touch later) :

Their goal at this age is to:​

1. Deepen voice​
2. Sharpen facial structure​
3. Reduce facial fat​
4. Improve bone visibility​
5. Reverse neoteny​
6. Increase sexual dimorphism​
7. Grow lashes and brows​

What they can do-
What I say here isn’t 100% guarantees that you will become a chad, but it’s better than not trying at all.


Deepen voice​

1. test E- Androgenization of vocal cords over time​
2. Choline + Inositol- Supports vagus nerve tone & vocal strength​

HGH and other hormones/peptides for height, muscles, dimorphism and bonemass-
Im not talking here money wise but I’m talking effectively wise — if you would like to find cheaper sources - find yourself I guess.​

1. Pharma HGH (e.g genotropin, norditropin)- I shouldn’t explain why right?​
2. CJC with dac + ipamorelin - shouldn’t explain why either.​
3. Ghrp6/2- shouldn’t aswell​
4. Tb-500- Accelerates recovery of facial fascia/masseter​
5. Tren- for major gymcelling​
6. Anavar- for gymcelling aswell​
7. Tadalfil (optional)​
8. IGF-1 lr3 (not realy good and I won’t get into it now but that is optional)​
9. Test (duh) - most Asians have high shbg which means they have low free test and weak androgenic effect. Test keeps estrogen manageable and gives slow, aesthetic remodeling.​
10. Oxandrolone- for better dimorphism​

Pair RU and dut with these because you don’t want to lose your hair aren’t you?


For skin and hair growth-
Even tho Asians have great skin, there’s always how to improve-​

1. Ghk cu- the most common and basic shit for skin, helps hair growth aswell.​
2. Accutane - only if your acne is very bad.​
3. Castor/oral castor oil- one of the best oil out there for hair growth that have minimal to zero side effects.but you need to be consistent.​
4. oral/ topical minox- topical: great for hair growth but just a couple of problems - can cause irritation and you can’t put it on your lashes obviously. For oral minox: can bloat you and cause some skin worsening - for the bloat part- there are up to 30% of the users of oral minoxidil who reports about bloating, which is a lot — if you want to prevent that (not fully) then you can use modafinil- I won’t expand on that since @Jonasㅤㅤ⠀ ⠀Already made a great thread on it, shoutout- ⠀ Thread 'The truth about Minoxidil - The holy grail or overhyped Looksmin?'https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-minoxidil-the-holy-grail-or-overhyped-looksmin.1418609/​
5. Lattise - great just watch for the side effects.​

Now we finally got to the HARDMAXXING-​

1. Orbital rim + infras implants- Asians as you know have very recessed orbitals so adding volume there could enhance their eyes .​
2. Zygomatics implants- I don’t need to explain I guess- no zygo visibility .​
3. Sliding genio, or any other chin and mandible realignment procedure (e.g bsso, bimax, Trimax, MMA etc) - Asians lower third is mostly narrow and not good at all.​
4. Browridge implant - for more masculine side.​
5. Frontal and temple grafts or implants​
6. Blepharoplasty- for lack of supratarsal.​
7. Extreme- lefort1-lefort3, for ccw rotation.​

TLDR;
Most East Asian men are genetically disadvantaged in aesthetics due to bone structure (flat midface, CW rotation, high mandibular plane angle) and poor hormonal signaling (low free T, high SHBG, weak DHT response). These traits make softmaxxing (like gym, mewing, skincare) almost useless past a certain point. For most, the only way to compete is through hardmaxxing: surgical intervention (CCW jaw rotation, LeFort, BSSO, infraorbital augmentation) combined with a hormonal and peptide-based protocol. It’s not about giving up—it’s about accepting biological reality and choosing the only path that works.​

this is stupid asians should just gymcel + prettyboy max and get pretty boy surgeries not all this shiite

 

[copercel123]

this is stupid asians should just gymcel + prettyboy max and get pretty boy surgeries not all this shiite

I litterally only said what surgeries would save them if they manage to do it, I didn’t tried to softmax them or some. Mostly talked about how cooked they are.

And yeah Asians should “just” get “pretty boy” surgeries or wtv this means
@kazama @Zagro

 

[kazama]

I litterally only said what surgeries would save them if they manage to do it, I didn’t tried to softmax them or some. Mostly talked about how cooked they are.

And yeah Asians should “just” get “pretty boy” surgeries or wtv this means
@kazama @Zagro

if u're not a mongol its pretty much over tbh
The average height and dih size already cook them asf
Look at the Japanese, they accepted this and now its over

 

[copercel123]

if u're not a mongol its pretty much over tbh
The average height and dih size already cook them asf
Look at the Japanese, they accepted this and now its over

They all look the same JFL, like NPCs.

 

[kazama]

They all look the same JFL, like NPCs.

from superior Asian race for hentai and anime jfl

 

[looksmaxxed]

tldr: asians kys

 

[looksmaxingbeyond]

 

[h0waryormn3]

didnt read all of it but bfr this applies to the unnattractive people of any race, not js asians, u wanna tell me there isnt attractive asians thats such bs, how good u look is nothing to do w race its ab genetic lottery and in some cases good ascension (however its done) , which can happen in litteraly any race, theres good and bad from all races there isnt just ONE desireable phenotype for EVERYONE, honestly any man whos tall and has good physique (no excuses for that, thats like a starter pack, the gym should be mandatory, isw it would reduce incel suicides) and no seriously nerfing features is an mtn-hmtn whos presentable, for htn they would need face card and hair that suits them . this is present everywhere in the world, some more saturated than others but still

In this thread I’m talking about Asians MEN not women duh.
Disclaimer-
This thread isn’t to insult or discourage it’s about clarity and survival strategy. Accept reality, then dominate it.

Bad formatting beacuse I’m lazy

if your Asian it’s beyond over and I’m sorrry but that’s the honest truth, your playing on hard mode even if your htn.
I saw so many Asians here saying that softmaxxes don’t work for them, and it’s making me sad and pissed off at the same time, they realy don’t learn their phenotype’s capability before even trying to ascend?
I mean an Asian trying to fix their flaws are almost impossible.
it’s better being any other ethnic being rather than Asian.

softmaxxing fails Asians-

Asians genetics sets them up to fail in today modern standards beacuse of their brutal pheno- feminine, soft etc.

Most East Asians are born with a phenotype that directly contradicts the aesthetic ideals of modern masculinity, especially in Western influenced societies:​

1. Brachycephalic skulls — wide but shallow - flat midface​
2. Recessed orbital rims —no depth, no eye area shadows​
3. Low nasal bridge— profile looks soft and undefined​
4. Round jaw with high gonial angle — no visual testosterone cues​
5. Small mandible — minimal facial width, poor lower third​
6. Lack of supratarsal— ugly and feminine eyes —great thread that explains it well- by @Racky Thread 'Double eyelid creases'https://looksmax.org/threads/double-eyelid-creases.539190/​
7. No hair in the eye area ( lashes, brows)​

And that makes them look feminine, soft, and like cutecels which is brutal in today society.



They are trapped in a low androgen low dimophism.:

they don’t just look younger, their body is hormonally yoyunger aswell.​

1. Lower average testosterone - less jaw, less brow, less body hair​
2. Lower DHT expression - poor secondary sexual traits (voice, beard, bone)​
3. Higher facial neoteny - perpetually soft and smooth​

What this basically mean-​

1. Your face doesn’t mature into masculinity.​
2. You don’t get the roughness or structure that age gives Meds or Slavs.​
3. You just get older and thinner looking, not hotter.​

You can’t out age your bad skul .
That’s cope.


They are playimg in the wrong game in the wrong arena-

Most Asians are being bullied by Western, Med, or hypermasculine standards, and East Asian genetics don’t match that.

Before yall say “but look how many girls love k-pop stars” then yeah they love their status and money, not their face, they look like average normie asian.

In Europe they get bullied so badly, i was in Europe a few months ago and saw how different they are in Europe, I mean they look like total twinks.


Softmaxxing is pointlesss if your Asian-


Mewing?

Does nothing without:​

• Forward growth potential​
• Sufficient sutural elasticity​
• Bone density and room to grow​

Gymmaxxing?

Muscle = good, but it can’t:​

• Reshape your skull​
• Fix flat cheeks​
• Push out your chin​
• Deepen your eyes​

You’ll end up looking like:​

• A swole babyface​
• A gymcel with a soft jaw​
• A Korean idol cosplayer who’s trying to be Slavic​

Skincare, fat loss, style?

Improves texture. Not shape.
Improves cleanliness. Not masculinity.
Improves first impression. Not retention.


You’re polishing a rounded, prepubescent silhouette.
No amount of moisturizer will give you a deep orbital trough.



Stuff Asians should do (strong softmaxxes and roids combined)-


You already waited long enough to ascend but… that isn’t happening.

What they should do at 14-19 ( before hardmaxxing which we are going to touch later) :

Their goal at this age is to:​

1. Deepen voice​
2. Sharpen facial structure​
3. Reduce facial fat​
4. Improve bone visibility​
5. Reverse neoteny​
6. Increase sexual dimorphism​
7. Grow lashes and brows​

What they can do-
What I say here isn’t 100% guarantees that you will become a chad, but it’s better than not trying at all.


Deepen voice​

1. test E- Androgenization of vocal cords over time​
2. Choline + Inositol- Supports vagus nerve tone & vocal strength​

HGH and other hormones/peptides for height, muscles, dimorphism and bonemass-
Im not talking here money wise but I’m talking effectively wise — if you would like to find cheaper sources - find yourself I guess.​

1. Pharma HGH (e.g genotropin, norditropin)- I shouldn’t explain why right?​
2. CJC with dac + ipamorelin - shouldn’t explain why either.​
3. Ghrp6/2- shouldn’t aswell​
4. Tb-500- Accelerates recovery of facial fascia/masseter​
5. Tren- for major gymcelling​
6. Anavar- for gymcelling aswell​
7. Tadalfil (optional)​
8. IGF-1 lr3 (not realy good and I won’t get into it now but that is optional)​
9. Test (duh) - most Asians have high shbg which means they have low free test and weak androgenic effect. Test keeps estrogen manageable and gives slow, aesthetic remodeling.​
10. Oxandrolone- for better dimorphism​

Pair RU and dut with these because you don’t want to lose your hair aren’t you?


For skin and hair growth-
Even tho Asians have great skin, there’s always how to improve-​

1. Ghk cu- the most common and basic shit for skin, helps hair growth aswell.​
2. Accutane - only if your acne is very bad.​
3. Castor/oral castor oil- one of the best oil out there for hair growth that have minimal to zero side effects.but you need to be consistent.​
4. oral/ topical minox- topical: great for hair growth but just a couple of problems - can cause irritation and you can’t put it on your lashes obviously. For oral minox: can bloat you and cause some skin worsening - for the bloat part- there are up to 30% of the users of oral minoxidil who reports about bloating, which is a lot — if you want to prevent that (not fully) then you can use modafinil- I won’t expand on that since @Jonasㅤㅤ⠀ ⠀Already made a great thread on it, shoutout- ⠀ Thread 'The truth about Minoxidil - The holy grail or overhyped Looksmin?'https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-minoxidil-the-holy-grail-or-overhyped-looksmin.1418609/​
5. Lattise - great just watch for the side effects.​

Now we finally got to the HARDMAXXING-​

1. Orbital rim + infras implants- Asians as you know have very recessed orbitals so adding volume there could enhance their eyes .​
2. Zygomatics implants- I don’t need to explain I guess- no zygo visibility .​
3. Sliding genio, or any other chin and mandible realignment procedure (e.g bsso, bimax, Trimax, MMA etc) - Asians lower third is mostly narrow and not good at all.​
4. Browridge implant - for more masculine side.​
5. Frontal and temple grafts or implants​
6. Blepharoplasty- for lack of supratarsal.​
7. Extreme- lefort1-lefort3, for ccw rotation.​

TLDR;
Most East Asian men are genetically disadvantaged in aesthetics due to bone structure (flat midface, CW rotation, high mandibular plane angle) and poor hormonal signaling (low free T, high SHBG, weak DHT response). These traits make softmaxxing (like gym, mewing, skincare) almost useless past a certain point. For most, the only way to compete is through hardmaxxing: surgical intervention (CCW jaw rotation, LeFort, BSSO, infraorbital augmentation) combined with a hormonal and peptide-based protocol. It’s not about giving up—it’s about accepting biological reality and choosing the only path that works.​

 

[Restitutor Orbis]

Wrong because masc =/= attractive. Asian men have the highest pretty boy appeal of all races. All the nerdy jbs want Kpop dick

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

Wrong because masc =/= attractive. Asian men have the highest pretty boy appeal of all races. All the nerdy jbs want Kpop dick

Was in a kpopstore in the netherlands


Legit 2 dutch htb jb singing korean songs there

 

[Dani667]

ians genetics sets them up to fail in tod

1. mprove bone visibility​
2. Reverse neot​

I thought about putting Asians fat distribution in the thread, but it would be a useless take. It’s water.

tell it

 

[copercel123]

In this thread I’m talking about Asians MEN not women duh.
Disclaimer-
This thread isn’t to insult or discourage it’s about clarity and survival strategy. Accept reality, then dominate it.

Bad formatting beacuse I’m lazy

if your Asian it’s beyond over and I’m sorrry but that’s the honest truth, your playing on hard mode even if your htn.
I saw so many Asians here saying that softmaxxes don’t work for them, and it’s making me sad and pissed off at the same time, they realy don’t learn their phenotype’s capability before even trying to ascend?
I mean an Asian trying to fix their flaws are almost impossible.
it’s better being any other ethnic being rather than Asian.

softmaxxing fails Asians-

Asians genetics sets them up to fail in today modern standards beacuse of their brutal pheno- feminine, soft etc.

Most East Asians are born with a phenotype that directly contradicts the aesthetic ideals of modern masculinity, especially in Western influenced societies:​

1. Brachycephalic skulls — wide but shallow - flat midface​
2. Recessed orbital rims —no depth, no eye area shadows​
3. Low nasal bridge— profile looks soft and undefined​
4. Round jaw with high gonial angle — no visual testosterone cues​
5. Small mandible — minimal facial width, poor lower third​
6. Lack of supratarsal— ugly and feminine eyes —great thread that explains it well- by @Racky Thread 'Double eyelid creases'https://looksmax.org/threads/double-eyelid-creases.539190/​
7. No hair in the eye area ( lashes, brows)​

And that makes them look feminine, soft, and like cutecels which is brutal in today society.



They are trapped in a low androgen low dimophism.:

they don’t just look younger, their body is hormonally yoyunger aswell.​

1. Lower average testosterone - less jaw, less brow, less body hair​
2. Lower DHT expression - poor secondary sexual traits (voice, beard, bone)​
3. Higher facial neoteny - perpetually soft and smooth​

What this basically mean-​

1. Your face doesn’t mature into masculinity.​
2. You don’t get the roughness or structure that age gives Meds or Slavs.​
3. You just get older and thinner looking, not hotter.​

You can’t out age your bad skul .
That’s cope.


They are playimg in the wrong game in the wrong arena-

Most Asians are being bullied by Western, Med, or hypermasculine standards, and East Asian genetics don’t match that.

Before yall say “but look how many girls love k-pop stars” then yeah they love their status and money, not their face, they look like average normie asian.

In Europe they get bullied so badly, i was in Europe a few months ago and saw how different they are in Europe, I mean they look like total twinks.


Softmaxxing is pointlesss if your Asian-


Mewing?

Does nothing without:​

• Forward growth potential​
• Sufficient sutural elasticity​
• Bone density and room to grow​

Gymmaxxing?

Muscle = good, but it can’t:​

• Reshape your skull​
• Fix flat cheeks​
• Push out your chin​
• Deepen your eyes​

You’ll end up looking like:​

• A swole babyface​
• A gymcel with a soft jaw​
• A Korean idol cosplayer who’s trying to be Slavic​

Skincare, fat loss, style?

Improves texture. Not shape.
Improves cleanliness. Not masculinity.
Improves first impression. Not retention.


You’re polishing a rounded, prepubescent silhouette.
No amount of moisturizer will give you a deep orbital trough.



Stuff Asians should do (strong softmaxxes and roids combined)-


You already waited long enough to ascend but… that isn’t happening.

What they should do at 14-19 ( before hardmaxxing which we are going to touch later) :

Their goal at this age is to:​

1. Deepen voice​
2. Sharpen facial structure​
3. Reduce facial fat​
4. Improve bone visibility​
5. Reverse neoteny​
6. Increase sexual dimorphism​
7. Grow lashes and brows​

What they can do-
What I say here isn’t 100% guarantees that you will become a chad, but it’s better than not trying at all.


Deepen voice​

1. test E- Androgenization of vocal cords over time​
2. Choline + Inositol- Supports vagus nerve tone & vocal strength​

HGH and other hormones/peptides for height, muscles, dimorphism and bonemass-
Im not talking here money wise but I’m talking effectively wise — if you would like to find cheaper sources - find yourself I guess.​

1. Pharma HGH (e.g genotropin, norditropin)- I shouldn’t explain why right?​
2. CJC with dac + ipamorelin - shouldn’t explain why either.​
3. Ghrp6/2- shouldn’t aswell​
4. Tb-500- Accelerates recovery of facial fascia/masseter​
5. Tren- for major gymcelling​
6. Anavar- for gymcelling aswell​
7. Tadalfil (optional)​
8. IGF-1 lr3 (not realy good and I won’t get into it now but that is optional)​
9. Test (duh) - most Asians have high shbg which means they have low free test and weak androgenic effect. Test keeps estrogen manageable and gives slow, aesthetic remodeling.​
10. Oxandrolone- for better dimorphism​

Pair RU and dut with these because you don’t want to lose your hair aren’t you?


For skin and hair growth-
Even tho Asians have great skin, there’s always how to improve-​

1. Ghk cu- the most common and basic shit for skin, helps hair growth aswell.​
2. Accutane - only if your acne is very bad.​
3. Castor/oral castor oil- one of the best oil out there for hair growth that have minimal to zero side effects.but you need to be consistent.​
4. oral/ topical minox- topical: great for hair growth but just a couple of problems - can cause irritation and you can’t put it on your lashes obviously. For oral minox: can bloat you and cause some skin worsening - for the bloat part- there are up to 30% of the users of oral minoxidil who reports about bloating, which is a lot — if you want to prevent that (not fully) then you can use modafinil- I won’t expand on that since @Jonasㅤㅤ⠀ ⠀Already made a great thread on it, shoutout- ⠀ Thread 'The truth about Minoxidil - The holy grail or overhyped Looksmin?'https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-minoxidil-the-holy-grail-or-overhyped-looksmin.1418609/​
5. Lattise - great just watch for the side effects.​

Now we finally got to the HARDMAXXING-​

1. Orbital rim + infras implants- Asians as you know have very recessed orbitals so adding volume there could enhance their eyes .​
2. Zygomatics implants- I don’t need to explain I guess- no zygo visibility .​
3. Sliding genio, or any other chin and mandible realignment procedure (e.g bsso, bimax, Trimax, MMA etc) - Asians lower third is mostly narrow and not good at all.​
4. Browridge implant - for more masculine side.​
5. Frontal and temple grafts or implants​
6. Blepharoplasty- for lack of supratarsal.​
7. Extreme- lefort1-lefort3, for ccw rotation.​

TLDR;
Most East Asian men are genetically disadvantaged in aesthetics due to bone structure (flat midface, CW rotation, high mandibular plane angle) and poor hormonal signaling (low free T, high SHBG, weak DHT response). These traits make softmaxxing (like gym, mewing, skincare) almost useless past a certain point. For most, the only way to compete is through hardmaxxing: surgical intervention (CCW jaw rotation, LeFort, BSSO, infraorbital augmentation) combined with a hormonal and peptide-based protocol. It’s not about giving up—it’s about accepting biological reality and choosing the only path that works.​

Bumpy.

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

Does this body increase SMV?

:blackpill::ogre:

looksmax.org

Break this thread hymen

 

[thereallegend]

Anavar and oxandrolone are the same thing

 

[copercel123]

Anavar and oxandrolone are the same thing

Where I said they aren’t?

 

[thereallegend]

Where I said they aren’t?

You listed them as two separate things

 

[copercel123]

You listed them as two separate things

Oh I see now, it’s a mistake.