Jaw implants + Genio Experience (No Pictures)

[Cole321]

INTRO

I want to share my experience here to see if people are in similar positions or want to chat about the process.
Early 20s male, jaw implants and genioplasty with horizontal advancement and slight verrtical reduction.
I had a slim face before, but wanted more angularity to my jaw and my lower third was too long, hence the slight vertical reduction. And some retrognathia.
Due to my profession I just am not willing to post picture public, i know thats ass but im open to possibly sharing privately.

Problem
Post-op 1.5 years, my face just look like a bulky bag of potatoes depspite low bf%, a gap can also be felt between what seems to be the jaw implant (Medpor) and the genio osteotomy. The definition of ramus is gone, was present before. Implant was put slightly posterior and inferior. Chin also looks disconnected. Smile is also completely different in a bad way. This is partly my fault, I showed my surgeon some results i wanted and he said he's got me covered, I should have explained the exact movements for the implants.

UPCOMING
Next month I am getting Gyno surgery and buccal fat removal at same time.
The month after I am getting peri-orbital fat grafting and midface as well.
Question
Something must be done about the implants, the recovery and swelling was absolutely brutally horrendous. I want some suggestions on my options which are the following

1 : Remove implants Risk : How does my face look like with that genioplasty alone? Stick with fillers from then on for desired results?

2 : Reposition implants and shave (move them up to avoid boxy look that i have and anterior so it hugs the bone directly and get the surgeon to shave where neccesary and place osteotomy gap implant if needed) Here my risk is, will this improve anything? Sounds good in theory but everyone is different.

3: No fucking clue if some sort of chin implants would benefit making things look disconnected but something would still need to be done about jaw implants.

Again sorry for absent pics, looking for some similar experiences.

 

[Deleted member 292811]

Any scans?

 

[Cole321]

Any scans?

I have an x-ray ceph scan

 

[Lookologist003]

How much did you pay for these?

a gap can also be felt between what seems to be the jaw implant (Medpor) and the genio osteotomy.

Ouch. How annoying does that get. Do you itch it?

 

[Cole321]

How much did you pay for these?


Ouch. How annoying does that get. Do you itch it?

Total was 15k. I dont itch it but i touch that fucking gap quite a bit and its bony ass protrusion

 

[LEFORT17]

Total was 15k. I dont itch it but i touch that fucking gap quite a bit and its bony ass protrusion

how much was the genio advancement? can you post the dessign?

 

[Cole321]

how much was the genio advancement? can you post the dessign?

No design, 7k

 

[gnwitch]

idk man if your face looks like a "bulky bag of potatoes" and ur implants are falling apart i think buccal fat removal is gonna make things worse. remove the implants first

 

[Lookologist003]

apart i think buccal fat removal is gonna make things worse.

Buccal fat removal is always a dumb idea. It's almost as dumb as the normie default to rhinoplasty.

I have never seen a good result from that. But Chads inject fat dissolver into their 21 year old cheeks anyhow.

 

[lurking truecel]

I have an x-ray ceph scan
View attachment 4905479

This photo doesnt say anything, but it seems that your jaw implant didnt follow the ramus and went more posterior ehich is like the number one noob misstake

 

[snowslayer]

Buccal fat removal is always a dumb idea. It's almost as dumb as the normie default to rhinoplasty.

I have never seen a good result from that. But Chads inject fat dissolver into their 21 year old cheeks anyhow.

buccal fat removal is a mogger surgery L take ngl. Explain to me the negatives all the aging fears people say are bs and affects women for MEN it has no problems ask any of the high iq users on here bfr mogs so hard

 

[Lookologist003]

buccal fat removal is a mogger surgery L take ngl. Explain to me the negatives

It doesn't do anything besides that your face may age worse.

it has no problems ask any of the high iq users on here bfr mogs so hard

Screw that. You should know of some before-and-afters which have convinced you. Show me those. But you forgot them or can't remember.

Go ahead and do it, but if you need jaw surgery to look Chad, then you need jaw surgery. I remember that Chadlicular had this. You have to be dumb af to think that he wouldn't be living a good looking life without it.

 

[snowslayer]

It doesn't do anything besides that your face may age worse.

Screw that. You should know of some before-and-afters which have convinced you. Show me those. But you forgot them or can't remember.

Go ahead and do it, but if you need jaw surgery to look Chad, then you need jaw surgery. I remember that Chadlicular had this. You have to be dumb af to think that he wouldn't be living a good looking life without it.

1. it doesn't show me proof of it aging a man 2. theres some results on here https://looksmax.org/threads/buccal-fat-removal-results-5-months-pictures-included.1368871/. https://looksmax.org/threads/i-just...l-here-are-my-thoughts.1879268/#post-26355027 also i have seen results from many users thru pms so yea

 

[Lookologist003]

2. theres some results on here https://looksmax.org/threads/buccal-fat-removal-results-5-months-pictures-included.1368871/. https://looksmax.org/threads/i-just...l-here-are-my-thoughts.1879268/#post-26355027

Thanks.

Evgeniy291's results are good because he had the right type of shitty face for the surgery. So buccal fat removal does do something, but you need to have an indication for it. It's hard to know what the right type of face for this surgery to be effective is.

Buccal Fat removal 32 days post op, I think around 30-50% of the result

This is how it's coming along, I said I was gonna do a post when the swelling went down because for the first few weeks I looked the exact same as before, but people have started to point out I look leaner from the side profile and I took some pics the other day in GOOD lighting and definitely...

looksmax.org

This Chad looks no different because his buccal fat was eclipsed by his already massive jaw. His skull is large and Chadly, which makes the buccal fat contribute very little volume at all. Evgeniy291's skull is tiny and I think his buccal fat was abnormally massive. The Chad did not benefit whereas Evgeniy looks less like an egg plant because of it. For buccal fat removal to be effective, you must have large buccal fat pads. I think most people do not have large fat pads and most greys and have confused themselves.

1. it doesn't show me proof of it aging a man

I said 'may' because I don't know. Nobody knows if it does, just like nobody knows if leg lengthening will cause you to be in a wheelchair when you are elderly. It will also be hard to attribute poor aging to any procedure that a man had.

also i have seen results from many users thru pms

Not an argument.

 

[snowslayer]

Thanks.

Evgeniy291's results are good because he had the right type of shitty face for the surgery. So buccal fat removal does do something, but you need to have an indication for it. It's hard to know what the right type of face for this surgery to be effective is.

Buccal Fat removal 32 days post op, I think around 30-50% of the result

This is how it's coming along, I said I was gonna do a post when the swelling went down because for the first few weeks I looked the exact same as before, but people have started to point out I look leaner from the side profile and I took some pics the other day in GOOD lighting and definitely...

looksmax.org

This Chad looks no different because his buccal fat was eclipsed by his already massive jaw. His skull is large and Chadly, which makes the buccal fat contribute very little volume at all. Evgeniy291's skull is tiny and I think his buccal fat was abnormally massive. The Chad did not benefit whereas Evgeniy looks less like an egg plant because of it. For buccal fat removal to be effective, you must have large buccal fat pads. I think most people do not have large fat pads and most greys and have confused themselves.


I said 'may' because I don't know. Nobody knows if it does, just like nobody knows if leg lengthening will cause you to be in a wheelchair when you are elderly. It will also be hard to attribute poor aging to any procedure that a man had.


Not an argument.

please @ascender01 can you show your frontal profile b/a to prove how much it ascended you. He doesn't have much jaw width at all but it still ascended him like crazy it's a kinda frauded b/a

 

[Lookologist003]

because he had the right type of shitty face for the surgery

@snowslayer

https://looksmax.org/threads/buccal-fat-removal-results.1049003/

This guy had the right type of face for it.

buccal fat removal is a mogger surgery

Needs subordinate clause, because it's not always a mogger surgery. "Buccal fat removal is a mogger surgery, if your buccal fat pads are oversized."

He doesn't have much jaw width at all

Ascender01 didn't have much jaw width at all? In his OP? Are we serious right now? Even in the before his jaw is massive and wets JB pussy.

 

[ascender01]

please @ascender01 can you show your frontal profile b/a to prove how much it ascended you. He doesn't have much jaw width at all but it still ascended him like crazy it's a kinda frauded b/a

sure, lowk kinda hard to find old front prof pics bcs i hated taking pics of myself from the front before, my front profile is a bit better now, my side prof still mogs it but it improved a bit

Before:

After:

Also my mom got BFR young and she's pushing her 60's but still looks good so thats what convinced me out of the "early aging" stuff but it might be different for everyone, I think facial aging has less to do with fat and more with low collagen levels and skin tightness imo, prolly a mixture but if that's an issue for me later in life im fine with doing fat grafts or facial implants to fix it, also sry pics arent the same exact lighting but geniunely the befores where pretty much as good as I could ever get a front prof pic to look good in ANY lighting before and after is my new "best pics" ig, my front profile has always been absurdly weaker than my side and 3/4ths profile for some reason, gonna talk to a surgeon this week to see more options to mog front

 

[snowslayer]

sure, lowk kinda hard to find old front prof pics bcs i hated taking pics of myself from the front before, my front profile is a bit better now, my side prof still mogs it but it improved a bit

Before: View attachment 4910109 View attachment 4910113 View attachment 4910152

After: View attachment 4910131 View attachment 4910133 View attachment 4910135 View attachment 4910136 View attachment 4910160 View attachment 4910161
Also my mom got BFR young and she's pushing her 60's but still looks good so thats what convinced me out of the "early aging" stuff but it might be different for everyone, I think facial aging has less to do with fat and more with low collagen levels and skin tightness imo, prolly a mixture but if that's an issue for me later in life im fine with doing fat grafts or facial implants to fix it, also sry pics arent the same exact lighting but geniunely the befores where pretty much as good as I could ever get a front prof pic to look good in ANY lighting before and after is my new "best pics" ig, my front profile has always been absurdly weaker than my side and 3/4ths profile for some reason, gonna talk to a surgeon this week to see more options to mog front

Ascender01 didn't have much jaw width at all? In his OP? Are we serious right now? Even in the before his jaw is massive and wets JB pussy.

told you he lacks jaw width gonion filler will push him to HTN or higher tbh but besides that his results mog

 

[Lookologist003]

told you he lacks jaw width

His cheeks have become a little flatter and more angular without buccal fat or less of it. I don't think it made a huge difference. He was still good looking as hell in the befores. I would kill to look like his befores. I can say it's less of a difference compared to Evgeniy291's results, who changed species because of it. I won't deny that he looks better, but "mogger surgery?" For everyone? Ascender01 said his frontal made him uncomfortable, and he was right that it was the fat that made it so. But it didn't give him that jaw and those eyes. The fat was just a little bit of roundness at the sides of his face that wont even be visible in soft lighting.

will push him to HTN or higher

You are coping if you think he isn't already a fucking 7.5 to 8 with a latina babe by his side. Look at how he poses. He is a Chad.

Also my mom got BFR young and she's pushing her 60's but still looks good

Your mom did modelling in college I'm guessing. Who gets BFR in 1980.

Anyways, thank you @ascender01. Detailed. I learn something.

 

[snowslayer]

His cheeks have become a little flatter and more angular without buccal fat or less of it. I don't think it made a huge difference. He was still good looking as hell in the befores. I would kill to look like his befores. I can say it's less of a difference compared to Evgeniy291's results, who changed species because of it. I won't deny that he looks better, but "mogger surgery?" For everyone? Ascender01 said his frontal made him uncomfortable, and he was right that it was the fat that made it so. But it didn't give him that jaw and those eyes. The fat was just a little bit of roundness at the sides of his face that wont even be visible in soft lighting.

omg your ridiculous it made a solid difference for almost no risk and for cheap that = mogger procedure. Its not gonna take u from shit to great but it enhances what you have very well.

You are coping if you think he isn't already a fucking 7.5 to 8 with a latina babe by his side. Look at how he poses. He is a Chad.

your a dickrider hop off this niggas dick

 

[Lookologist003]

omg your ridiculous

My point is that a "mogger surgery" is jaw surgery, which can transform an utter untermench into a complete pussy wetter. Buccal fat removal is a looksmax, but it's not "mogger surgery."


This is mogger surgery

Trimax + Gymmaxx + Leanmaxx Ascension

Had trimax with Ramieri at the beginning of 2024. Finally got decently lean. Pre-surgery vs now: Gymcelled for 8 years natty (but I should’ve just used gear) I’m a non-NT manlet late 20s oldcel with Peter Pan syndrome, but now I slay uni girls every now and again, I get IOIs...

looksmax.org

your a dickrider hop off this niggas dick

Don't get so emotional because you want this cheap surgery to make you look as good as Ascender01. I had no idea who this guy was or his face until the last hours of today. I know what faces attract women and I'm just speaking my mind.

Just go get the surgery if you think it will do so much for you. It's less than one week of your wages. I have no idea what you look like.

 

[snowslayer]

My point is that a "mogger surgery" is jaw surgery, which can transform an utter untermench into a complete pussy wetter. Buccal fat removal is a looksmax, but it's not "mogger surgery."


This is mogger surgery

Trimax + Gymmaxx + Leanmaxx Ascension

Had trimax with Ramieri at the beginning of 2024. Finally got decently lean. Pre-surgery vs now: Gymcelled for 8 years natty (but I should’ve just used gear) I’m a non-NT manlet late 20s oldcel with Peter Pan syndrome, but now I slay uni girls every now and again, I get IOIs...

looksmax.org

Don't get so emotional because you want this cheap surgery to make you look as good as Ascender01. I had no idea who this guy was or his face until the last hours of today. I know what faces attract women and I'm just speaking my mind.

Just go get the surgery if you think it will do so much for you. It's less than one week of your wages. I have no idea what you look like.

bro a mogger surgery is not just what ascends you the most it's a mix of how much it ascends, price, recovery times, accessibility. Bfr is a mogger surgery

 

[Lookologist003]

bro a mogger surgery is not just what ascends you the most it's a mix of how much it ascends, price, recovery times, accessibility. Bfr is a mogger surgery

Okay. In that case it's a mogger surgery. I'm concerned with what ascends men the most.

 

[iamgoingtoascend]

My point is that a "mogger surgery" is jaw surgery, which can transform an utter untermench into a complete pussy wetter. Buccal fat removal is a looksmax, but it's not "mogger surgery."


This is mogger surgery

Trimax + Gymmaxx + Leanmaxx Ascension

Had trimax with Ramieri at the beginning of 2024. Finally got decently lean. Pre-surgery vs now: Gymcelled for 8 years natty (but I should’ve just used gear) I’m a non-NT manlet late 20s oldcel with Peter Pan syndrome, but now I slay uni girls every now and again, I get IOIs...

looksmax.org

Don't get so emotional because you want this cheap surgery to make you look as good as Ascender01. I had no idea who this guy was or his face until the last hours of today. I know what faces attract women and I'm just speaking my mind.

Just go get the surgery if you think it will do so much for you. It's less than one week of your wages. I have no idea what you look like.

That guys ascension is insane i remember talking to him
Ascending in late 20s is a bit ... though but better late then never i suppose

 

[iamgoingtoascend]

yo @Lookologist003

Wdy think about my plan? https://looksmax.org/threads/advice-much-appreciated-regarding-cheeks.2003671/

 

[svarddre]

yeah I’ve never been a huge fan of jaw implants

Hope everything goes well for you

 

[Cole321]

This photo doesnt say anything, but it seems that your jaw implant didnt follow the ramus and went more posterior ehich is like the number one noob misstake

Can you send me a PM

 

[monk321]

not much you can do you fucked your face pretty bad now but:

1) remove implants but get sagging and do soft tissue work to fix it (i'm not entirely sure you can reattach the muscles properly tho def need an expert surgeon) and then cope with fillers to fill the genio gap and to restore a proper mandible line (don't get those shitty implants again)

2) cope with fillers for the gap but you can't avoid the bloated look , specifically i recommend radiesse for the jaw i had great results with it

 

[LEFORT17]

Can you send me a PM

did you get a lot of width projection? as you said u dont have any design of the implants, what did your surgeon say about projection

 

[ascender01]

sure, lowk kinda hard to find old front prof pics bcs i hated taking pics of myself from the front before, my front profile is a bit better now, my side prof still mogs it but it improved a bit

Before: View attachment 4910109 View attachment 4910113 View attachment 4910152

After: View attachment 4910131 View attachment 4910133 View attachment 4910135 View attachment 4910136 View attachment 4910160 View attachment 4910161
Also my mom got BFR young and she's pushing her 60's but still looks good so thats what convinced me out of the "early aging" stuff but it might be different for everyone, I think facial aging has less to do with fat and more with low collagen levels and skin tightness imo, prolly a mixture but if that's an issue for me later in life im fine with doing fat grafts or facial implants to fix it, also sry pics arent the same exact lighting but geniunely the befores where pretty much as good as I could ever get a front prof pic to look good in ANY lighting before and after is my new "best pics" ig, my front profile has always been absurdly weaker than my side and 3/4ths profile for some reason, gonna talk to a surgeon this week to see more options to mog front

@observador @chris182

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[observador]

@observador @chris182

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Big difference bro, hopefully mine will look the same in a couple months

 

[Assymetry]

Your implants are medphor, due to tissue ingrowth they can't be repositioned, you would need to get the implant removed and get a new implant to replace the medphor one.