Jaw Surgery Experts GTFIH (Analyze my CBCT)

[Physiocrat]

My gonions are everted/flared, right?

 

[wayme]

mirin the browridge

 

[Deleted member 18582]

yes, the Gonions are Flared.

 

[Pakicel]

yes, the Gonions are Flared.

Can I PM you?

 

[Deleted member 18582]

Can I PM you?

about what?

 

[Pakicel]

about what?

Need help with vetting surgeons plus general surgery advice. You seem quite knowledgeable based on your posts.

 

[Physiocrat]

yes, the Gonions are Flared.

Ok, thanks for the confirmation. They feel and look flared, however I have very large masseters and they make my ramus area look rounded,bloated, and inverted. Im considering doing masseter botox.

 

[Physiocrat]

Im also considering bimax, what does everyone think?

 

[chrisN]

chad skull

 

[aidan]

What would you guys rate my jaw unclenched?

 

[Physiocrat]

What would you guys rate my jaw unclenched?

idk bro, make your own thread, why u hijacking mine

 

[aidan]

idk bro, make your own thread, why u hijacking mine

my fault bro

 

[longjohnmong]

"Hey guys are my giant flared gonia flared? Just wondering if these obvious flares on my jaw are flared gonia?"

But dude, you should get a big old wedge genio, and then file down the bone in between your chin and your gonia (yeah, it's gonia, you animals). I think that'll make you look less bloated and give you that outward gonia look. Check with someone else before you do it because I'm just guessing.

 

[Physiocrat]

"Hey guys are my giant flared gonia flared? Just wondering if these obvious flares on my jaw are flared gonia?"

But dude, you should get a big old wedge genio, and then file down the bone in between your chin and your gonia (yeah, it's gonia, you animals). I think that'll make you look less bloated and give you that outward gonia look. Check with someone else before you do it because I'm just guessing.

Lol. Well i dont know bro my masseters are gigantic and make my gonia look inverted so I was just double checking. Thanks for the genio idea, thats interesting. The distance between the chin and gonia is very low and makes my face look rounded and provides no skin/tissue support. Do you think a genio would fuck up my side, i was thinking i need bimax because my chin project is already decent, no?

 

[tinderhacker]

Ok, thanks for the confirmation. They feel and look flared, however I have very large masseters and they make my ramus area look rounded,bloated, and inverted. Im considering doing masseter botox.

@Acne Victim see what i mean now, just bc its bigger doesn't mean its gonna be better.

the masseter is slowly drooping below his actual bone bc of gravity. The resulting jowling will look atrocious.

@Cheat_Win is in for a rude awakening in the next 3-5 years.

 

[Cheat_Win]

@Acne Victim see what i mean now, just bc its bigger doesn't mean its gonna be better.
View attachment 2416341 the masseter is slowly drooping below his actual bone bc of gravity. The resulting jowling will look atrocious.

@Cheat_Win is in for a rude awakening in the next 3-5 years.

Tell that to brad Pitt

 

[Physiocrat]

@Acne Victim see what i mean now, just bc its bigger doesn't mean its gonna be better.
View attachment 2416341 the masseter is slowly drooping below his actual bone bc of gravity. The resulting jowling will look atrocious.

@Cheat_Win is in for a rude awakening in the next 3-5 years.

Yea massesters are overrated, you need bone. It does depend on the way your masseter attachess, the shape, size, etc. The can look ok, but wide jaw is really not ideal. 80-90% jaw with overall v shape and proportionally wide chin is perfect, scroll through your tiktok feed and look at all the prettyboys with 500,000 likes, they dont have wide jaw, they have 80-90% jaw width with great angularity, overall v shap jaw, and pointy or square chin that isnt too wide.

 

[Physiocrat]

Tell that to brad Pitt

Brad pitt's jaw looks bloated. If you ever see slideshow tiktoks of brad pitt on tikotk, all the people commenting are dudes lol. The only brad pitt slideshow that had all girls commenting were of two pics in which the area between his cheekbone and gonion was more angular than usual and he didnt look bloated. Very wide jaw is male gaze and ugly.

 

[Cheat_Win]

Brad pitt's jaw looks bloated. If you ever see slideshow tiktoks of brad pitt on tikotk, all the people commenting are dudes lol. The only brad pitt slideshow that had all girls commenting were of two pics in which the area between his cheekbone and gonion was more angular than usual and he didnt look bloated. Very wide jaw is male gaze and ugly.

as what a psl autist says matters at all keep coping like this or actually do something for your recessed chin and melted jaw

 

[Physiocrat]

as what a psl autist says matters at all keep coping like this or actually do something for your recessed chin and melted jaw

not an argument

 

[Cheat_Win]

not an argument

As if you made any

 

[tinderhacker]

Tell that to brad Pitt

his bone mass is 10x yours naturally and he still has masseter jowling now at old age.

Its over for you bc you have zero bone mass and that filler is gonna be hanging off your jaw like a fucking prolapsed asshole

 

[tinderhacker]

As if you made any

im gonna laugh as that filler is hanging off your face. especially since now you're adding new fillers on the old filler base, your face is gonna look so fucked up in 3 years LMFAO

 

[Physiocrat]

Look we can all agree Brad Pitt has a good jaw and is attractive to women; however his jaw width and massester size is not ideal. These things are not mutually exclusive. What is so controversial about that.

 

[tinderhacker]

My gonions are everted/flared, right?

btw OP yout cbct is really good. The only problem might be your chin height. Is it small in real life?

 

[Cheat_Win]

View attachment 2416395
im gonna laugh as that filler is hanging off your face. especially since now you're adding new fillers on the old filler base, your face is gonna look so fucked up in 3 years LMFAO

Copeeeeeeeeeee what are going to do about your melded face?

 

[Cheat_Win]

btw OP yout cbct is really good. The only problem might be your chin height. Is it small in real life?

My 3 thirds are symmetrical so I don’t worry about chin height as it suits my face

 

[Physiocrat]

btw OP yout cbct is really good. The only problem might be your chin height. Is it small in real life?

Thanks why do you say that its good? What is your criteria? My chin to philtrum ratio is good, but yes my chin height is kinda bad. I have learned to flex my mentallis muscle making my chin pointy and longer;however this isnt bone and thus only helps my chins appearance when it is flexed, which happens when consciously doing so, smiling, talking. It also doesnt provide tissue support because it isnt bone. So yeah my chin is flat and short, but I have a good chin to philtrum ratio, so I worry if I make my chin taller, I'll have a disproportionally tall chin. Why not do bimax?

 

[Cheat_Win]

Thanks why do you say that its good? What is your criteria? My chin to philtrum ratio is good, but yes my chin height is kinda bad. I have learned to flex my mentallis muscle making my chin pointy and longer;however this isnt bone and thus only helps my chins appearance when it is flexed, which happens when consciously doing so, smiling, talking. It also doesnt provide tissue support because it isnt bone. So yeah my chin is flat and short, but I have a good chin to philtrum ratio, so I worry if I make my chin taller, I'll have a disproportionally tall chin. Why not do bimax?

In your case I think ask this question to many surgeons as i don’t have the expertise sorry

 

[Physiocrat]

My 3 thirds are symmetrical so I don’t worry about chin height as it suits my face

dude are you a retard, you're not OP, and I didnt ask for you criteria, I asked @tinderhacker

 

[Cheat_Win]

dude are you a retard, you're not OP, and I didnt ask for you criteria, I asked @tinderhacker

Ungreatful fuck

 

[tinderhacker]

Thanks why do you say that its good? What is your criteria? My chin to philtrum ratio is good, but yes my chin height is kinda bad. I have learned to flex my mentallis muscle making my chin pointy and longer;however this isnt bone and thus only helps my chins appearance when it is flexed, which happens when consciously doing so, smiling, talking. It also doesnt provide tissue support because it isnt bone. So yeah my chin is flat and short, but I have a good chin to philtrum ratio, so I worry if I make my chin taller, I'll have a disproportionally tall chin. Why not do bimax?

Primarily your ramus height and browridge are really good bone wise. I can't assess the soft tissue appearance until I see your face but those are the two most difficult bones to change. Every other bone in the face is subject to tweaks and changes much more easily.

Therefore your base is really good.

I think you should book a genio consult nonetheless, work alongside the surgeon and try to get a before and after of what they think is possible. Thats the best way to actually see if genio will further ascend you. The consult cost afaik is $150 in the US. And you can reject the surgery if you aren't satisfied with the surgeons morph.

Or you can get easily dissolvable HA fillers and see how added chin and height and projection affects your frontal and philtrum:chin ratio.

 

[Physiocrat]

Primarily your ramus height and browridge are really good bone wise. I can't assess the soft tissue appearance until I see your face but those are the two most difficult bones to change. Every other bone in the face is subject to tweaks and changes much more easily.

Therefore your base is really good.

I think you should book a genio consult nonetheless, work alongside the surgeon and try to get a before and after of what they think is possible. Thats the best way to actually see if genio will further ascend you. The consult cost afaik is $150 in the US. And you can reject the surgery if you aren't satisfied with the surgeons morph.

Or you can get easily dissolvable HA fillers and see how added chin and height and projection affects your frontal and philtrum:chin ratio.

Thank your for you thorough and thoughtful response. Is afaik a top tier genio surgeon or something, I've never heard of him. I have a consultation with Ramieri soon for bimax and I'll ask him about genio as well. Don't you think I would benefit more from bimax?

 

[Cheat_Win]

Primarily your ramus height and browridge are really good bone wise. I can't assess the soft tissue appearance until I see your face but those are the two most difficult bones to change. Every other bone in the face is subject to tweaks and changes much more easily.

Therefore your base is really good.

I think you should book a genio consult nonetheless, work alongside the surgeon and try to get a before and after of what they think is possible. Thats the best way to actually see if genio will further ascend you. The consult cost afaik is $150 in the US. And you can reject the surgery if you aren't satisfied with the surgeons morph.

Or you can get easily dissolvable HA fillers and see how added chin and height and projection affects your frontal and philtrum:chin ratio.

Terrible fucking advice

 

[tinderhacker]

Thank your for you thorough and thoughtful response. Is afaik a top tier genio surgeon or something, I've never heard of him. I have a consultation with Ramieri soon for bimax and I'll ask him about genio as well. Don't you think I would benefit more from bimax?

hahaha bro afaik is short for 'As far as I know' ? I was saying in my experience the average consult cost is around $150

 

[Physiocrat]

hahaha bro afaik is short for 'As far as I know' ? I was saying in my experience the average consult cost is around $150

lol i didnt know that acronym.

 

[Physiocrat33]

Can anybody else do some analysis pn my cbct or give me any advice?