Jawline in sports

[Deleted member 7693]

I've noticed some changes to my jawline in particular, but I think I have reasons to believe my hunter eyes aren't just genetic as well. My face has definitively changed after I started lifting. I used to do a lot of cardio, now fitness, it was a life changing process. Ever noticed how bodybuilders become business oriented ? ever notices how most mens physique competitor has decent to chad like bone structure, of course, what came first, the chicken or egg. But also with strongmen, they don't look feminine when fat, you notice this look on their face as if they're ready to attack.
I don't think this is a coincidence, I believe mindset has an effect on how our bodies form. Just like hunter eyes where probably for focus, having focus would probably have an effect over time, because where do genetics come from ? someone on the family three have made changes that developed these attractive traits.
If we look at height, notice how the average changes in just one generation ? I think this also has to do with behaviour associated with the need of extra height.
I have some theories on how to tap into parts of our genetics, will get into that more later. but for now, have a nice day !

EDIT: The point is that lifting weights have an effect on posture etc. Mindset have an effect on stress, test etc, general hormone levels

 

[Deleted member 3020]

Nice vent

 

[Deleted member 6382]

Height never changed
People are just getting better nutrition
People wont keep growing

 

[Deleted member 6856]

 

[Deleted member 7693]

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Sure genetics is important, but why does he have those genes ? somebody in the past did something, whether it be posture , nutrition or mindset, and I believe in developing them ourselves by doing what gave them their genetics.

 

[Deleted member 6856]

Sure genetics is important, but why does he have those genes ? somebody in the past did something, whether it be posture , nutrition or mindset, and I believe in developing them ourselves by doing what gave them their genetics.

you have bluepilled you ll have blackpill soon don't worry

 

[CrazyFitLover]

genetics change due to random errors, not becauso of someone fucused so hard that his eye area genetics changed to hunter.

 

[Deleted member 7693]

you have bluepilled you ll have blackpill soon don't worry

I do believe that face is the most important thing, I do not believe in personality etc, I disagree with how the looks come to be. I don't think that some human beings got jawlines out of nowhere.
And to recreate the path by reverse engineering their purpose, why did we need strong jawlines, why are they attractive and how did they come to be. Just like with following the money, I believe in following the genetics to figure out if it could be recreated.

genetics change due to random errors, not becauso of someone fucused so hard that his eye area genetics changed to hunter.

if that where the case then these traits wouldn't be universally attractive. They are attractive because they have a purpose
Edit: Evolution is not random , we have hands, legs, fingers etc for a reason.

 

[Chadlitecel]

Sure genetics is important, but why does he have those genes ? somebody in the past did something, whether it be posture , nutrition or mindset, and I believe in developing them ourselves by doing what gave them their genetics.

Actually the habits of our ancestors gave us those genes. But genetics changes take thousands of years. So if you think that you can change your genes in 10 years you are really delusional

 

[Deleted member 7693]

Actually the habits of our ancestors gave us those genes. But genetics changes take thousands of years. So if you think that you can change your genes in 10 years you are really delusional

"Measurements of European populations have shown a slow, positive trend in children’s growth – with a gradual increase in final height by 0.3 – 3 cm for every decade " https://tidsskriftet.no/en/2009/02/growth-charts-norwegian-children
I would say this is quick development for each decade.
We are capable of change in genetics. Maybe we are just maximising our genetic limits, but who knows what those limits are ? We all are the result of ancestory which won, we have hunters, fighters, any kind of genetics we could think off, it is within us from far back. Just like we have phobias which stems from millions of years in the past, we have genes that could be activated by doing what built them in the first place.
EDIT: Mummies have been found, like this one in china https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristi...om-all-over-eurasia-dna-reveals/#38c0e60b3e2c
they could be our ancestors, we have their genetics

 

[Aesthetics_III]

if that where the case then these traits wouldn't be universally attractive. They are attractive because they have a purpose
Edit: Evolution is not random , we have hands, legs, fingers etc for a reason.

evolution is random, but the traits that randomly mutate sometimes serve a purpose, and are therefore selected for (if they’re beneficial).

 

[Deleted member 7693]

evolution is random, but the traits that randomly mutate sometimes serve a purpose, and are therefore selected for (if they’re beneficial).

Is skin colour a random mutation which coincidentally serves a purpose in the exact time and location where the pigmentation is needed ? or is it adaption just like jawline ? Everything that is considered attractive have a purpose, and they so happen to match their lifestyle, like hard food, strong jaw etc

 

[Aesthetics_III]

Is skin colour a random mutation which coincidentally serves a purpose in the exact time and location where the pigmentation is needed ?

yes

 

[Deleted member 7693]

yes

Why are everyone around equator black and those in colder countries white ?

 

[Aesthetics_III]

Why are everyone around equator black and those in colder countries white ?

because of vitamin d

 

[Baldingman1998]

Sure genetics is important, but why does he have those genes ? somebody in the past did something, whether it be posture , nutrition or mindset, and I believe in developing them ourselves by doing what gave them their genetics.

This is actually true. Lifestyle and nutrition affects genetics legit. But it takes several generations to see solid changes. You can improve but it's limited in one generation

 

[Deleted member 643]

OP seems to fundamentally misunderstand genetics and evolutionary biology. Did he fucking fail high school biology or something?

 

[Deleted member 7693]

Northern countries have lived of fish which is plenty in vitamin D, what other reasons ?

 

[Deleted member 5061]

Height never changed
People are just getting better nutrition
People wont keep growing

Actually this. Ppl eat way more processed foods (and bigger ammount of food too) with all sorts of growth hormones in it and other artificial shit that has impact on growth.

Nowadays ppl eat meat all day every diay. Some 2/3x day or whatever. Something like this was simply impossible 100 years ago. Mass animal farming didnt exist 100 years ago, like it is the case nowadays and meat prices were much higher compared to todays prices.

Also more height isnt beneficial. If you look at women who are 175+ cm tall, more often than not they have no curves, no waist, look masculine almost. Dating apps are full with tall women, because gl men want small, feminine, cute, submissive women, that are easy to dominate simply by your height advantage over them. A 180cm foid very rarely looks feminine, and because of her height, shes automatically not submissive.

Tall women 180cm+ is almost as bad as manlets, well not quite, but 99% of them would rather be 165 cm or even 155 cm tall instead of 182 cm.
Tall Chads wouldnt marry or ltr a giraffe looking 182 cm woman, even if she has a nice face and curvy body (which is extremely rare anyways).

Theres a reason why all these dating apps are full of tall women, who are looking for 186+ cm men. But these men will rather hook up with a small 160cm asian girl with flat face, than these 182cm western giraffes.

 

[Deleted member 7693]

OP seems to fundamentally misunderstand genetics and evolutionary biology. Did he fucking fail high school biology or something?

point out something

Actually this. Ppl eat way more processed foods (and bigger ammount of food too) with all sorts of growth hormones in it and other artificial shit that has impact on growth.

Nowadays ppl eat meat all day every diay. Some 2/3x day or whatever. Something like this was simply impossible 100 years ago. Mass animal farming didnt exist 100 years ago, like it is the case nowadays and meat prices were much higher compared to todays prices.

Also more height isnt beneficial. If you look at women who are 175+ cm tall, more often than not they have no curves, no waist, look masculine almost. Dating apps are full with tall women, because gl men want small, feminine, cute, submissive women, that are easy to dominate simply by your height advantage over them. A 180cm foid very rarely looks feminine, and because of her height, shes automatically not submissive.

Tall women 180cm+ is almost as bad as manlets, well not quite, but 99% of them would rather be 165 cm or even 155 cm tall instead of 182 cm.
Tall Chads wouldnt marry or ltr a giraffe looking 182 cm woman, even if she has a nice face and curvy body (which is extremely rare anyways).

Theres a reason why all these dating apps are full of tall women, who are looking for 186+ cm men. But these men will rather hook up with a small 160cm asian girl with flat face, than these 182cm western giraffes.

Men just happen to be attracted to short women, meanwhile women are attracted to tall men, let's not underestimate the nature which has led us to who we are today. Maybe a girl would take the height of the mother and the son the height of the father or any previous male genetics from the past

This is actually true. Lifestyle and nutrition affects genetics legit. But it takes several generations to see solid changes. You can improve but it's limited in one generation

THIS
I am not saying fast changes, I am talking about "POSSIBILITIES", which is something some people seem to misunderstand. It is not about going from 6 ft to 7 ft, more like 6 ft 1 in 20 years for the next generation to take the next step.

 

[Deleted member 6824]

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He's 100% right. Only other dudes will comment on your bigger arms. You won't pull any more girls when big compared to slim/lean. Only exception is if you have a bad face.. in that case you can compensate by building mass

 

[Deleted member 7693]

He's 100% right. Only other dudes will comment on your bigger arms. You won't pull any more girls when big compared to slim/lean. Only exception is if you have a bad face.. in that case you can compensate by building mass

It has much to do with society, I like to look at attraction as a pyramid, the lowest has to be in place for the upper ones to matter.
First is survival, if you lives in a time of stress and danger. Muscles would be a need. Now people deep down knows they're safe. So they can focus on reproduction, genetic features, the next step in the power aspect, when reproduction is in place, why focus on sex ? anyone would want a million subscribers over having another lay if they knew they could have it anytime they desire it.

 

[Deleted member 5061]

point out something

Men just happen to be attracted to short women, meanwhile women are attracted to tall men, let's not underestimate the nature which has led us to who we are today. Maybe a girl would take the height of the mother and the son the height of the father or any previous male genetics from the past

THIS
I am not saying fast changes, I am talking about "POSSIBILITIES", which is something some people seem to misunderstand. It is not about going from 6 ft to 7 ft, more like 6 ft 1 in 20 years for the next generation to take the next step.

Bigger height (lets say like 190cm +) is also (usually) counterproductive even for men. It can create health issues when youre older. Lets take some slight extreme examples like those 200cm + basketball players. They usually wont get as old as ppl who are on average around 180cm. Blood pressure, heart issues etc. are common with very tall ppl when they get older.

There is no natural benefit for a human to be taller than lets say 190cm or so. Heck I think if it wasnt for the processed foods with all sorts of gmo and growth hormones in it and sheer ammounts of food ppl are eating nowadays, I think ppl would be way smaller nowadays still.

Our average height nowadays didnt come naturally for the most part, but artificially.

If you look at indigenous tribes who lived isolated from industrial world for a very long time and eat mostly plants and wild animals, theyre usually rather small, because there is no benefit for a human to be super tall in nature.

 

[Deleted member 7693]

Bigger height (lets say like 190cm +) is also (usually) counterproductive even for men. It can create health issues when youre older. Lets take some slight extreme examples like those 200cm + basketball players. They usually wont get as old as ppl who are on average around 180cm. Blood pressure, heart issues etc. are common with very tall ppl when they get older.

There is no natural benefit for a human to be taller than lets say 190cm or so. Heck I think if it wasnt for the processed foods with all sorts of gmo and growth hormones in it and sheer ammounts of food ppl are eating nowadays, I think ppl would be way smaller nowadays still.

Our average height nowadays didnt come naturally for the most part, but artificially.

If you look at indigenous tribes who lived isolated from industrial world for a very long time and eat mostly plants and wild animals, theyre usually rather small, because there is no benefit for a human to be super tall in nature.

I agree, height isn't the best for long term health, but who cares what happens at 70 ? Professional athletes don't live long.

This is a grey area, because saying hormones is at fault, is to say just take HGH bro.

"Dinka are sometimes noted for their height. With the Tutsi of Rwanda, they are believed to be the tallest people in Africa.[3] Roberts and Bainbridge reported the average height of 182.6 cm (5 ft 11.9 in) in a sample of 52 Dinka Agaar and 181.3 cm (5 ft 11.4 in) in 227 Dinka Ruweng measured in 1953–1954."
The tallest people in the world, the dutch and scandinavians, we aren't known for junk food. A lot of us eat the way our grandparents did. And those who don't, you can see it on them due to the differences it makes, not in their height, but body fat, pimples etc.

 

[Deleted member 5061]

I agree, height isn't the best for long term health, but who cares what happens at 70 ? Professional athletes don't live long.

This is a grey area, because saying hormones is at fault, is to say just take HGH bro.

"Dinka are sometimes noted for their height. With the Tutsi of Rwanda, they are believed to be the tallest people in Africa.[3] Roberts and Bainbridge reported the average height of 182.6 cm (5 ft 11.9 in) in a sample of 52 Dinka Agaar and 181.3 cm (5 ft 11.4 in) in 227 Dinka Ruweng measured in 1953–1954."
The tallest people in the world, the dutch and scandinavians, we aren't known for junk food. A lot of us eat the way our grandparents did. And those who don't, you can see it on them due to the differences it makes, not in their height, but body fat, pimples etc.

Either way- taller ppl usually have weaker frame. Very tall ppl, even lets take average young NL male (lets say 190cm) as an example, they dont have the same bulky frame as a 180cm guy would have. Their body parts are usually stretched in the verticality. Oftentimes their jaws or chins look unnaturally long (or faces in general). Their skulls are usually narrow, bones are rather thin.

It is very rare for tall ppl to have a big frame, like say Alistair Overeem. Usually their body/facial proportions are off and look stretched and unaesthetic.

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

half of your post is 200iq the other half is

 

[Deleted member 2157]

you are venting
bones would change due to higher hormones eventually

 

[Patient A]

Actually the habits of our ancestors gave us those genes. But genetics changes take thousands of years. So if you think that you can change your genes in 10 years you are really delusional

COPE OF THE CENTURY

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Athletes have better than average facial bone structures because of genetics. They were exposed to higher levels of prenatal and pubertal t, which led to the development of dimorphic features.