JBW, importance in northern europe vs rest of the world? (SRS)

[gaymidget]

Hey,
i noticed something as a (kinda) european looking turkish guy. In Germany, where i grew up in live, its very difficult to get attention from girls. They have very high standards and tinder here is nightmare mode. I still get some dates out of it but i see how it works for a german friend of mine, who isnt even better looking (worse based on a lot of clubbing nights). But the moment i travel to other countries like italy or turkey, it feels like dating gets way easier.

Turkish girls genuinly think that i am good looking, italian girls will eyeball me a lot, even when going out with my girlfriend. On a language app, turkish and russiang girls compliment me a lot, flirt or write me first. All these things are nearly non existent with german girls/girls born in germany.

My question is, is this casued by higher competition in germany or just by girls wanting only white guys?

 

[Deleted member 21182]

It’s also the culture in Germany people aren’t open to socialize a lot so it makes cold approach very hard

 

[Johanjohan]

Hey,
i noticed something as a (kinda) european looking turkish guy. In Germany, where i grew up in live, its very difficult to get attention from girls. They have very high standards and tinder here is nightmare mode. I still get some dates out of it but i see how it works for a german friend of mine, who isnt even better looking (worse based on a lot of clubbing nights). But the moment i travel to other countries like italy or turkey, it feels like dating gets way easier.

Turkish girls genuinly think that i am good looking, italian girls will eyeball me a lot, even when going out with my girlfriend. On a language app, turkish and russiang girls compliment me a lot, flirt or write me first. All these things are nearly non existent with german girls/girls born in germany.

My question is, is this casued by higher competition in germany or just by girls wanting only white guys?

Most north european girls dont like ethnics or east europeans

It’s very segregated here and most white ppl dont hang out with ethnics

 

[Deleted member 28896]

heard that there is a niche market for non-whites!

You are in luck

 

[gaymidget]

Most north european girls dont like ethnics or east europeans

It’s very segregated here and most white ppl dont hang out with ethnics

I mean most girls talk about anti racism, openness etc. and i am also in a very liberal city.

 

[Johanjohan]

I mean most girls talk about anti racism, openness etc. and i am also in a very liberal city.

Ye they talk about it to seem friendly but dont like ethnics anyway

For example I work with a goodlooking tall guy who looks turkish, and im much more popular at work than him since im white

 

[Deleted member 28896]

Afghans and Syrians etc have ruined your reputation as a turk, btw.

 

[gaymidget]

Ye they talk about it to seem friendly but dont like ethnics anyway

For example I work with a goodlooking tall guy who looks turkish, and im much more popular at work than him since im white

Yeah it proofs what i was suspecting a long time. Being a turkish guy, there are places which will work way better for u. Russia, Italy, Turkey, Spain etc. are all way better. I really dont know why people still stay in this shithole country.

 

[gaymidget]

Afghans and Syrians etc have ruined your reputation as a turk, btw.

Yeah true but i dont look too turkish tbh. I always get considered as italian or spanish but i also work for it (no turkish migrant haircut, dress well, speak german and english very well etc.)

 

[Deleted member 28904]

Hey,
i noticed something as a (kinda) european looking turkish guy. In Germany, where i grew up in live, its very difficult to get attention from girls. They have very high standards and tinder here is nightmare mode. I still get some dates out of it but i see how it works for a german friend of mine, who isnt even better looking (worse based on a lot of clubbing nights). But the moment i travel to other countries like italy or turkey, it feels like dating gets way easier.

Turkish girls genuinly think that i am good looking, italian girls will eyeball me a lot, even when going out with my girlfriend. On a language app, turkish and russiang girls compliment me a lot, flirt or write me first. All these things are nearly non existent with german girls/girls born in germany.

My question is, is this casued by higher competition in germany or just by girls wanting only white guys?

Non swedes mostly date non swedes in Sweden as far as I know. Dnrd though

 

[Wallenberg]

In northern Europe guys are taller and whiter than other places. Being blue-eyed 180 cm guy in northern Europe makes you an average guy; being blue-eyed 180 cm guy makes you stand out of the crowd from some other places where guys are shorter and blue eyes aren't as common

 

[Johanjohan]

Yeah it proofs what i was suspecting a long time. Being a turkish guy, there are places which will work way better for u. Russia, Italy, Turkey, Spain etc. are all way better. I really dont know why people still stay in this shithole country.

Just date ethnic girls then

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Hey,
i noticed something as a (kinda) european looking turkish guy. In Germany, where i grew up in live, its very difficult to get attention from girls. They have very high standards and tinder here is nightmare mode. I still get some dates out of it but i see how it works for a german friend of mine, who isnt even better looking (worse based on a lot of clubbing nights). But the moment i travel to other countries like italy or turkey, it feels like dating gets way easier.

Turkish girls genuinly think that i am good looking, italian girls will eyeball me a lot, even when going out with my girlfriend. On a language app, turkish and russiang girls compliment me a lot, flirt or write me first. All these things are nearly non existent with german girls/girls born in germany.

My question is, is this casued by higher competition in germany or just by girls wanting only white guys?

JBW is a shitskin cope.

 

[szolliontaraelis]

Med pheno and Superman pheno are the best out of them all. Nordcuck pheno is all too common in Europe, tho its ideal for geomaxxing

 

[eyes]

Hey,
i noticed something as a (kinda) european looking turkish guy. In Germany, where i grew up in live, its very difficult to get attention from girls. They have very high standards and tinder here is nightmare mode. I still get some dates out of it but i see how it works for a german friend of mine, who isnt even better looking (worse based on a lot of clubbing nights). But the moment i travel to other countries like italy or turkey, it feels like dating gets way easier.

Turkish girls genuinly think that i am good looking, italian girls will eyeball me a lot, even when going out with my girlfriend. On a language app, turkish and russiang girls compliment me a lot, flirt or write me first. All these things are nearly non existent with german girls/girls born in germany.

My question is, is this casued by higher competition in germany or just by girls wanting only white guys?

Whats your height and coloring?

Most north european girls dont like ethnics or east europeans

It’s very segregated here and most white ppl dont hang out with ethnics

Most of the Nordic girls who travel around Europe like Balkan or Arab men though, as I have seen so in clubs or dating etc.

 

[Johanjohan]

Most of the Nordic girls who travel around Europe like Balkan or Arab men though, as I have seen so in clubs or dating etc.

Tales from mumbai

 

[gaymidget]

Whats your height and coloring?

177cm in the morning but i kinda fraud to 180cm with platform chucks and boots. I am very pale white and have brown eyes. I look mediterranean.

 

[Mastermind]

Being white in Northern Europe is like being 6'0 there, doesn't make a difference

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Being white in Northern Europe is like being 6'0 there, doesn't make a difference

6'2*

 

[Deleted member 8771]

Like others have already pointed out, in places like Austria, Germany, and the Nordic countries, there's a lot of ethnic segregation going on. Because of this, a bunch of women might not be into dating someone from a different background. They don't want their friends or family to know about it. This isn't just about non-white people either; even white American expats in Nordic countries can have a hard time making friends and you can see alot of them complaining about it on subreddits.

 

[AspiringMogger]

Hey,
i noticed something as a (kinda) european looking turkish guy. In Germany, where i grew up in live, its very difficult to get attention from girls. They have very high standards and tinder here is nightmare mode. I still get some dates out of it but i see how it works for a german friend of mine, who isnt even better looking (worse based on a lot of clubbing nights). But the moment i travel to other countries like italy or turkey, it feels like dating gets way easier.

Turkish girls genuinly think that i am good looking, italian girls will eyeball me a lot, even when going out with my girlfriend. On a language app, turkish and russiang girls compliment me a lot, flirt or write me first. All these things are nearly non existent with german girls/girls born in germany.

My question is, is this casued by higher competition in germany or just by girls wanting only white guys?

Being white is not a halo in white left leaning countries.

 

[Deleted member 28904]

Being white is not a halo in white left leaning countries.

Being non white is a failo generally in those countries, but of course people will never say that.

 

[eyes]

tales

Here comes your average .org nordic rotter

as a balkan/mediterranean, personally Nordic girls at most circumstances are approaching & friendly etc. although they are quite loyal even if they have an oofie doofie bf

177cm in the morning but i kinda fraud to 180cm with platform chucks and boots. I am very pale white and have brown eyes. I look mediterranean.

Nothing special if you don't have good features.

 

[Xangsane]

Hey,
i noticed something as a (kinda) european looking turkish guy. In Germany, where i grew up in live, its very difficult to get attention from girls. They have very high standards and tinder here is nightmare mode. I still get some dates out of it but i see how it works for a german friend of mine, who isnt even better looking (worse based on a lot of clubbing nights). But the moment i travel to other countries like italy or turkey, it feels like dating gets way easier.

Turkish girls genuinly think that i am good looking, italian girls will eyeball me a lot, even when going out with my girlfriend. On a language app, turkish and russiang girls compliment me a lot, flirt or write me first. All these things are nearly non existent with german girls/girls born in germany.

My question is, is this casued by higher competition in germany or just by girls wanting only white guys?

gaymidget

 

[Xangsane]

Yeah true but i dont look too turkish tbh. I always get considered as italian or spanish but i also work for it (no turkish migrant haircut, dress well, speak german and english very well etc.)

Look for non-white women then.

 

[AspiringMogger]

Being non white is a failo generally in those countries, but of course people will never say that.

That’s different than what I said. White in Northern and western Europe is the default therefore JBW isn’t a factor. A halo is something the minority of people have. If everyone is white being white cannot be a halo.

 

[bloomercel]

I hear Northern Europe is nightmare mode for everyone.

 

[Deleted member 28904]

I hear Northern Europe is nightmare mode for everyone.

If you don't have a social circle it's over.

 

[Deleted member 24427]

From what I've read and seen it's nightmare mode for ethnics, even white non Germans because :
The average German is a 6'2 HTN pretty boy maxxed (and watching Germany walk vids on YouTube, it seems true)

While a ethnic turk/arab/Syrian is 5'8 MTN terrorist pheno guy

Hypergamy exists there so a pretty German girl will have 10-20 6'3 German htns orbiting her, why would she care about 5'8 ethnic?

Other pretty ethnic girls date German guys too because of this

 

[St.TikTokcel]

From what I've read and seen it's nightmare mode for ethnics, even white non Germans because :
The average German is a 6'2 HTN pretty boy maxxed (and watching Germany walk vids on YouTube, it seems true)

While a ethnic turk/arab/Syrian is 5'8 MTN terrorist pheno guy

Hypergamy exists there so a pretty German girl will have 10-20 6'3 German htns orbiting her, why would she care about 5'8 ethnic?

Other pretty ethnic girls date German guys too because of this

Curries told me that the average zoomie is a 5'4 Pablo. This is very unsettling...

 

[Deleted member 24427]

Curries told me that the average zoomie is a 5'4 Pablo. This is very unsettling...

even in my tier 2 indian city the average zoomer is 5'10-5'11, i get height mogged by 70 percent of zoomers at 5'9

 

[gaymidget]

Look for non-white women then.

Its not the solution bro cause they act similar and oyu are exlcuding a huge chunk of the dating market by being not attractive to nordic girls. Even the foreign ones are usually danish, netherlands, sweden etc.

From what I've read and seen it's nightmare mode for ethnics, even white non Germans because :
The average German is a 6'2 HTN pretty boy maxxed (and watching Germany walk vids on YouTube, it seems true)

While a ethnic turk/arab/Syrian is 5'8 MTN terrorist pheno guy

Hypergamy exists there so a pretty German girl will have 10-20 6'3 German htns orbiting her, why would she care about 5'8 ethnic?

Other pretty ethnic girls date German guys too because of this

Yeah true somewhat but my observation was that less attractive german guys mog more. Like if a german and a foreign guy are same height same psl, the german guy will stil have it way more easy. Thats what i am asking here, cause i feel like i am artficially making myself less attractive by being in an environemtn thats not good for guys like me. I wanted to see if some of you share this experience or if am just coping

 

[Xangsane]

Its not the solution bro cause they act similar and oyu are exlcuding a huge chunk of the dating market by being not attractive to nordic girls. Even the foreign ones are usually danish, netherlands, sweden etc.

Yeah true somewhat but my observation was that less attractive german guys mog more. Like if a german and a foreign guy are same height same psl, the german guy will stil have it way more easy. Thats what i am asking here, cause i feel like i am artficially making myself less attractive by being in an environemtn thats not good for guys like me. I wanted to see if some of you share this experience or if am just coping

You're exclusively looking for blonde Nordics. Look for Meds and ethnics to increase your pool.

 

[gaymidget]

You're exclusively looking for blonde Nordics. Look for Meds and ethnics to increase your pool.

I am looking bro, i am not excluding any girls but most of the middle eastern girls here are disgusting. I think moving away is my best bet. Dating as men is already an uphill battle in 2023, why would i make it even more difficult by being in a country where my pheno is at least a slight failo?

 

[Deleted member 24427]

Its not the solution bro cause they act similar and oyu are exlcuding a huge chunk of the dating market by being not attractive to nordic girls. Even the foreign ones are usually danish, netherlands, sweden etc.

Yeah true somewhat but my observation was that less attractive german guys mog more. Like if a german and a foreign guy are same height same psl, the german guy will stil have it way more easy. Thats what i am asking here, cause i feel like i am artficially making myself less attractive by being in an environemtn thats not good for guys like me. I wanted to see if some of you share this experience or if am just coping

i talked to a syrian guy who lives in germany and he said the same thing, that germany is hell mode for ethnic even if ethnic is chad

its your environment

 

[Xangsane]

I am looking bro, i am not excluding any girls but most of the middle eastern girls here are disgusting. I think moving away is my best bet. Dating as men is already an uphill battle in 2023, why would i make it even more difficult by being in a country where my pheno is at least a slight failo?

Have you looked at African, Asian and Latina women?

 

[Johanjohan]

even in my tier 2 indian city the average zoomer is 5'10-5'11, i get height mogged by 70 percent of zoomers at 5'9

mumbai?

 

[Deleted member 25198]

youre just not up to los pollos standards

 

[AscensionMan98]

Hey,
i noticed something as a (kinda) european looking turkish guy. In Germany, where i grew up in live, its very difficult to get attention from girls. They have very high standards and tinder here is nightmare mode. I still get some dates out of it but i see how it works for a german friend of mine, who isnt even better looking (worse based on a lot of clubbing nights). But the moment i travel to other countries like italy or turkey, it feels like dating gets way easier.

Turkish girls genuinly think that i am good looking, italian girls will eyeball me a lot, even when going out with my girlfriend. On a language app, turkish and russiang girls compliment me a lot, flirt or write me first. All these things are nearly non existent with german girls/girls born in germany.

My question is, is this casued by higher competition in germany or just by girls wanting only white guys?

Location will play a part. Some germans here have had contradicting sentiments . While practically everyone will agree white smv is the highest , in areas like Finland or Norway ,Estonia, the darker hair turkish look can be seen as more exotic. In Germany their is a lot of turkish immigration so the exotic halo isn't really their.

Surprised Italy is easier then germany. Cause in germany Its more common to be pale and those women tend to prefer more caramel coloring and dark hair. This is esp the case in Finland and Norway but more so cause exotic halo.

And yea not surprised your own women like you. Their is no racial bias as their your own, tho to be fair especially in asian countries with lots of tourists like Thailand the women are going out of their way to date a foreign man vs local man.

 

[AscensionMan98]

It’s also the culture in Germany people aren’t open to socialize a lot so it makes cold approach very hard

I would argue the opposite. If cold approach isn't popular the easier it is for it to work as its out of the normal and stands out.

 

[Deleted member 21182]

I would argue the opposite. If cold approach isn't popular the easier it is for it to work as it’s out of the normal and stands out.

Idk I only warm approach ppl in Germany seem way too closed off maybe they would be nice but who knows

 

[AscensionMan98]

Its not the solution bro cause they act similar and oyu are exlcuding a huge chunk of the dating market by being not attractive to nordic girls. Even the foreign ones are usually danish, netherlands, sweden etc.

Yeah true somewhat but my observation was that less attractive german guys mog more. Like if a german and a foreign guy are same height same psl, the german guy will stil have it way more easy. Thats what i am asking here, cause i feel like i am artficially making myself less attractive by being in an environemtn thats not good for guys like me. I wanted to see if some of you share this experience or if am just coping

Yea even oofy doofy looking white guys can get semi attractive white girls more easier. For non whites to have a halo they would need some caucasoid feature that work harmoniously with their ethnicity, as well as good height ( which often isn't the case ), good coloring ( also not often the case ), and being muscular ( most of them except blacks get regularly frame mogged ).

But even if you adjust for height, coloring, and frame its still easier and that's kind the brutal blackpill. Only thing is to go where your smv favors you and you like the women.

I have done tinder experiments in Norway, Finland, Eastern Europe. Dark hair and a caramel/tan look is preferred.

 

[AscensionMan98]

Idk I only warm approach ppl in Germany seem way too closed off maybe they would be nice but who knows

This guy lives their and has found success cold approaching. Dude is some curry that looks black thanks to shaving bald and getting some frame. Whether they believe it or not we don't know.

 

[Deleted member 24427]

mumbai?

no, unknown tier 2 city

I went to Mumbai a month ago, and it was even more brutal, 30% of zoomers were 6'0+ with 5'10 5'11 being average
only applies to middle class and rich zoomers tho the poor ones are 5'6 average

 

[Johanjohan]

no, unknown tier 2 city

I went to Mumbai a month ago, and it was even more brutal, 30% of zoomers were 6'0+ with 5'10 5'11 being average
only applies to middle class and rich zoomers tho the poor ones are 5'6 average

Heigjt doesnt matter anyway unless u have good face + body

 

[hirochan]

my only impression is from tiktok but it seems like whenever these ethnics get "white foids" they seem to be non-native like eastern euros/balkans/southern etc euros

 

[Deleted member 24427]

Heigjt doesnt matter anyway unless u have good face + body

Tbh even tho indian zoomers are tall for some reason most of them are ugly, no fashion or self care
Zoomer girls here only like prettyboys

 

[Johanjohan]

Tbh even tho indian zoomers are tall for some reason most of them are ugly, no fashion or self care
Zoomer girls here only like prettyboys

Ye im sure theres tons of prettyboys in india bro

Jfl tm

 

[Deleted member 24427]

Ye im sure theres tons of prettyboys in india bro

Jfl tm

There aren't

This is why so many Indians on this forum
No pheno for prettyboy max