JBW is BS

[Deleted member 6111]

Yes euro men may be the top of the food chain but not all women universally prefer european men. I WHITE white, like legit 6'2 blue eyes brown hair anglo. i thought it would be cool to change my location on tinder. changed to munich, did the same as london. changed to stockholm, did the same as London.

But when I went over to Taipei and Tokyo, my match ratio plummeted. I did so much worse. Literally the only girl ive actually been talking to properly over there is an english expat.

Yes maybe wmaf is one of the most common forms of miscegyny, but irl i think most women just prefer their own races, more so than men do. even if euro men have the highest smv, it doesnt just mean that they will necessarily be more attractivem(than other races) to all women.

This does slightly contradict most own experiences in London, where ethnic and especially black women are super desperate for average looking white guys, but its possible that things are different outside of multiethnic, degen shit holes. Also East Asian people, unlike western ethnics, have higher social standards and probably a more coherent and constructive worldview. Ive also never been to SEA. I wouldnt say this is absolutely true, therefore, but JBW certainly isnt universal.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

maybe youre not gl enough bro. being white is a massive halo as is being black but it wont guarantee you the best looking ethnics.

 

[Deleted member 6111]

maybe youre not gl enough bro. being white is a massive halo as is being black but it wont guarantee you the best looking ethnics.

i get with gl white women. its not that im not matching anyone in asia, its that im doing MUCH WORSE than I do in europe

 

[6ft7Mogger]

yeh i've been saying this for a while jbw doesnt exist,

 

[everydayfun]

if you're actually good looking chances are they think you're a bot or catfish, asians are literally the easiest ever to get for a white guy.

 

[Deleted member 6111]

if you're actually good looking chances are they think you're a bot or catfish, asians are literally the easiest ever to get for a white guy.

Do you have actual experience of this in Asian counties? I’m not talking about diaspora in western countries

 

[Deleted member 6111]

if you're actually good looking chances are they think you're a bot or catfish, asians are literally the easiest ever to get for a white guy.

I’m Also very obviously not a bot or a catfish, unless Asian standards are really that low

 

[Deleted member 9003]

Jbw is just a halo. You still have to be good looking

 

[6ft7Mogger]

Jbw is just a halo. You still have to be good looking

cope this guy is gl enough to get white women

 

[everydayfun]

Do you have actual experience of this in Asian counties? I’m not talking about diaspora in western countries

I have experience with this in asian sections of big cities, i don't find asian women attractive, but they really like me.

 

[Deleted member 6341]

i get with gl white women. its not that im not matching anyone in asia, its that im doing MUCH WORSE than I do in europe

I think you're right, but it's not because you're ugly. It's simply because non-overweight European girls are just much more attractive than any Asian girl. Even so-called "Asian stacies" look significantly worse than any above average, harmonious, young white girl.

 

[Deleted member 6111]

I think you're right, but it's not because you're ugly. It's simply because non-overweight European girls are just much more attractive than any Asian girl. Even so-called "Asian stacies" look significantly worse than any above average, harmonious, young white girl.

Wdym? Why would them being less attractive make them less likely to swipe me? I’m getting a lower volume of overall matches, I’m not talking about the hotness of girls I match. I swipe anyone who isn’t fat or trans, yet the overall volume is much lower

 

[Deleted member 6111]

I have experience with this in asian sections of big cities, i don't find asian women attractive, but they really like me.

Yeah I have the same with all kinds of ethnics in London, but I’m starting to think it’s different in western cities

 

[Deleted member 6111]

Jbw is just a halo. You still have to be good looking

Don’t really doubt this. White men obviously do better in ethnic countries than ethnics do in white countries (adjusting for social conservatism etc) but I’m actually doing worse in ethnic countries than I already do in white countries

 

[everydayfun]

Yeah I have the same with all kinds of ethnics in London, but I’m starting to think it’s different in western cities

I don't think so, I feel like the FOBs are the most thirsty types but i haven't been paying attention much.

 

[Deleted member 6111]

I don't think so, I feel like the FOBs are the most thirsty types but i haven't been paying attention much.

I mean first generation polish women in the uk are much much more disgusting both morally and aesthetically than polish girls in Poland, so i guess it could be something about girls who migrate

 

[everydayfun]

I mean first generation polish women in the uk are much much more disgusting both morally and aesthetically than polish girls in Poland, so i guess it could be something about girls who migrate

yeah i guess that's possible

 

[Deleted member 6341]

Wdym? Why would them being less attractive make them less likely to swipe me? I’m getting a lower volume of overall matches, I’m not talking about the hotness of girls I match. I swipe anyone who isn’t fat or trans, yet the overall volume is much lower

Asian girls, at least the non-westernized ones which are more than 98% of the female population, don't use Tinder. More than 95% sexual relationships in Asia begin at work, college, and church. Only liberal feminist English-speaking Asian sluts use Tinder. And the majority of those sluts have a notch count of 50+ tall white foreign men. If you want to get a nonwesternized, reasonably attractive girl with good personality in East Asia, working in a church or a social venue/event is probably the most reliable way.

 

[Deleted member 6111]

Asian girls, at least the non-westernized ones which are more than 98% of the female population, don't use Tinder. More than 95% sexual relationships in Asia begin at work, college, and church. Only liberal feminist English-speaking Asian sluts use Tinder. And the majority of those sluts have a notch count of 50+ tall white foreign men. If you want to get a nonwesternized, reasonably attractive girl with good personality in East Asia, working in a church or a social venue/event is probably the most reliable way.

what youre saying doesnt really follow from your previous comment. but still based.

im talking about Japan though, which is one of the most godless societies on earth

also not interested in asian girls, just curious

 

[Deleted member 6341]

what youre saying doesnt really follow from your previous comment. but still based.

im talking about Japan though, which is one of the most godless societies on earth

also not interested in asian girls, just curious

Still true for Japan. Most casual sex in Japan happens in social circles and bars/high end clubs, not on Tinder.

 

[Deleted member 6111]

Still true for Japan. Most casual sex in Japan happens in social circles and bars/high end clubs, not on Tinder.

But the girls I’m dealing with are on tinder. My sample set is 100% girls who have tinder. And none of them are swiping me

 

[Deleted member 6512]

Probably the alghorithm showed you less in Japan for some reason, Japan Is where i had the highest match rate.

 

[Deleted member 1507]

I call bs.
Tried it myself as a white guy and my match rate was WAY higher in Asia.

 

[Deleted member 1507]

Same in Latin America (+ the girls were hotter)

 

[Deleted member 6111]

Probably the alghorithm showed you less in Japan for some reason, Japan Is where i had the highest match rate.

I call bs.
Tried it myself as a white guy and my match rate was WAY higher in Asia.

Hmm it could be. Weird. It’s not bs though. Unless I just haven’t counted correctly for some reason

 

[Deleted member 6111]

Just started again maybe I was wrong

 

[Deleted member 1507]

Hmm it could be. Weird. It’s not bs though. Unless I just haven’t counted correctly for some reason

I mean, it goes against every experiment every white guy has ever done.
Trust me, I've been to Asia and JBW is real.

 

[BigNoseSlavcel]

maybe youre not gl enough bro. being white is a massive halo as is being black but it wont guarantee you the best looking ethnics.

Who is the girl in your sig?

 

[randomuser2407]

You are judging an entire country based on 1 dating app, that is a huge mistake.

It is possible to get laid in Japan, Japanese women actually have a thing for white guys, not as much as in southeast asia but there are still a lot of them who like white guys and if you actually went there and you were at least normie in looks, you would find that I am telling you the truth.

The easiest countries to get laid are: The philippines, thailand, cambodia, vietnam, malaysia, singapore and indonesia.

And many guys here think that just because it is in Asia, you can only have sex with local women but in reality, the most accessible women tend to be tourists, not the locals, so you'll have an even greater chance at getting laid with a woman that you find attractive in one of those countries than back home simply because single women who travel to those places are much easier to have sex with because they are not staying in one place for a very long time.

I have read stories about ugly fat men who get laid a lot with beautiful women from all over the world when they are in Thailand even though back home, they would be basically incels.

My plan is to go to thailand and the philippines either for 3 months during the summer of 2021, or 1 month from late december 2021 to late january 2022, or in summer 2022, depending on when covid19 ends and when I finally have enough money for my trip. All my lays will be legit since I won't pay for prostitutes.

 

[randomuser2407]

Asian girls, at least the non-westernized ones which are more than 98% of the female population, don't use Tinder. More than 95% sexual relationships in Asia begin at work, college, and church. Only liberal feminist English-speaking Asian sluts use Tinder. And the majority of those sluts have a notch count of 50+ tall white foreign men. If you want to get a nonwesternized, reasonably attractive girl with good personality in East Asia, working in a church or a social venue/event is probably the most reliable way.

In southeast asia, they use tinder a lot but it isnt even the most popular dating site.
They have sites like thaicupid, filipinocupid, indonesiacupid, malaysiacupid, vietnamcupid and cambodiacupid, and you can do an experiment with pictures of yourself and I bet that within a very short time, you will have a ton of messages from so many different women.

As for Japan, they have japancupid. China has chinalovecupid. Each important Asian country has that website and they all run by the same company and it works really well because they have so many users that use each site.

So online dating is still doable even in Japan. You do get more opportunities if you do both IRL and online instead of just online though.

 

[Deleted member 6111]

I mean, it goes against every experiment every white guy has ever done.
Trust me, I've been to Asia and JBW is real.

never been to asia tbf. im basing this solely on this tinder thing which has only been a couple days, but i was shocked tbh

 

[Deleted member 6512]

never been to asia tbf. im basing this solely on this tinder thing which has only been a couple days, but i was shocked tbh

The only way to make the experiment legit is to start a tinder profile from scratch while you are there. Tinder Is weird and their alghorithm can fuck you up for some weird stuff, i tried using tinder in Japan while i was in Italy and had poor results, when i went there with a new phone and a new sim card i had more matches than usual, like i woke up in the night with like 60 or 70 likes, never happened in my country, and first tinder date was the day later.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

outside of multiethnic, degen shit holes

yeah, in the west they tend to look for white more if they don't have trad mindset.
Not anybody among my relatives tho, did go for anything else than my own ethnicity, and i don't want it to change.
People should prefer their people, and no cringeness will be created

 

[Deleted member 6111]

The only way to make the experiment legit is to start a tinder profile from scratch while you are there. Tinder Is weird and their alghorithm can fuck you up for some weird stuff, i tried using tinder in Japan while i was in Italy and had poor results, when i went there with a new phone and a new sim card i had more matches than usual, like i woke up in the night with like 60 or 70 likes, never happened in my country, and first tinder date was the day later.

Yeah it’s not that deep tbh. Like i Say I have no interest in Asian girls so it has no effect on me. Just reporting a surprising finding

 

[Deleted member 6111]

yeah, in the west they tend to look for white more if they don't have trad mindset.
Not anybody among my relatives tho, did go for anything else than my own ethnicity, and i don't want it to change.
People should prefer their people, and no cringeness will be created

It’s honestly so cringe. I don’t really care about other races doing it but it still looks so odd and can’t help but feeling for the families, potential children and the people themselves. You have to be totally rootless, with no connection to your culture, or have serious problems, or be totally desperate to do it.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

It’s honestly so cringe. I don’t really care about other races doing it but it still looks so odd and can’t help but feeling for the families, potential children and the people themselves. You have to be totally rootless, with no connection to your culture, or have serious problems, or be totally desperate to do it.

self-hating dudes in a nutshell. My grandad who came to the west saw things with his eyes that we'r just accustomed to and don't question : He is by far the least racist dude i know - and after all our faith is to consider every beeing as equal in front of god - but still had to say that it's odd that black guys go for whites girls. And vice versa.
We can't hide our deep cringeness of it. And this comes from somebody that is not against the idea of race mixing as an exception, but never as a principle.
I prefer going for a girl 0.5 psl lower or so, but not fucking my family, my roots, my identity, my faith, and the ones of my family and children tbh

 

[Deleted member 2634]

Wtf is this bullshit
Jbw is king
The law of gravity has less credibility than jbw

 

[Deleted member 4430]

what gook and ethnics women imagine what every white man looks like

 

[Deleted member 6111]

Wtf is this bullshit
Jbw is king
The law of gravity has less credibility than jbw

im not saying that euro isnt highest smv, or even highest by a long way, just that girls in a lot of ethnic countries will prefer not to mix, even with european mean

 

[Krezo]

It's over

 

[Deleted member 3043]

It's over

no bro

 

[Deleted member 6341]

yeah, in the west they tend to look for white more if they don't have trad mindset.
Not anybody among my relatives tho, did go for anything else than my own ethnicity, and i don't want it to change.
People should prefer their people, and no cringeness will be created

It applies to both men and women, even if they have trad mindset. My cousin is most likely trad christian and his wife is white, and they are not a progressive couple.

It's not lack of culture LOL, it's just sexual attraction. People like beautiful features and these features are just more common on white people. It's not the 50s anymore, boy. People should be able to date whoever they get along/"connect" with.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

It applies to both men and women, even if they have trad mindset. My cousin is most likely trad christian and his wife is white, and they are not a progressive couple.

It's not lack of culture LOL, it's just sexual attraction. People like beautiful features and these features are just more common on white people. It's not the 50s anymore, boy. People should be able to date whoever they get along/"connect" with.

As i said, i don't disagree, but you have to face the consequence of your acts.
I find it normal for some ethnics, be it indian,or sea dudes to go for whites, since they were the first to push this cosmopolitan shit.
But, saying it's should be normal it's going against consequentialism. It's about going for the long term benefits over some dopamine rush.
If i'm able to do so, girls should be too, if they are really intelligent and pious. But tbh, they already do when they are, there is not any other solution, and that's what they say to me too.
Just for the looks aspect : I don't know how it works in your country, but in mine, the prefered phenotype, are always from those of the same ethnicity - did lots of test with unkown girls, but then again i'm above average imo, and saw enough data in every regard, even trivially on ig or snap to be certain of it.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

but my case is a bit easier tbh, i always found tiny angelic skull better and it's more found on girls with ethnics admixture than nordics - never was attracted to these wide faced ones, or ashild ringhus alike- and i have a caucasoid skull, meanwhile you'r the fartest away from white people,and if you really find them gl, it's hard for you to find a compromise.
@Chineseguyslefort

 

[Deleted member 6111]

It applies to both men and women, even if they have trad mindset. My cousin is most likely trad christian and his wife is white, and they are not a progressive couple.

It's not lack of culture LOL, it's just sexual attraction. People like beautiful features and these features are just more common on white people. It's not the 50s anymore, boy. People should be able to date whoever they get along/"connect" with.

Men racemix more than women because they have lower standards and baser instincts.

its true that a section of christians mix, as do muslims, because the most central part of their identity is their religion. especially for people in countries without a strong ethnic identity eg western europe, us and some other countries, and for converts, who have essentially broken their ties with their old religion, nation, family etc, mixing with someone outside of their ethnicity is presumably less jarring because the union doesnt really go across lines - the only identity they have is religion and this doesnt violate that.

However, most serious/trad christians and muslims are also nationally/ethnically/culturally conservative and have strong roots in where theyre from AS WELL as their religion. Also, even non ethnically conscious christians dont really mix because nobody does. overwhelming number of people prefer their own regardless of how "trad" they are, because aside from the identity issue theres also just basic biology. ie people shouldnt mix and they dont want to, in most cases.

I'm not saying miscegyny is necessarily a sin but its really not a good idea and is basically immoral.

 

[Deleted member 6341]

As i said, i don't disagree, but you have to face the consequence of your acts.
I find it normal for some ethnics, be it indian,or sea dudes to go for whites, since they were the first to push this cosmopolitan shit.
But, saying it's should be normal it's going against consequentialism. It's about going for the long term benefits over some dopamine rush.
If i'm able to do so, girls should be too, if they are really intelligent and pious. But tbh, they already do when they are, there is not any other solution, and that's what they say to me too.
Just for the looks aspect : I don't know how it works in your country, but in mine, the prefered phenotype, are always from those of the same ethnicity - did lots of test with unkown girls, but then again i'm above average imo, and saw enough data in every regard, even trivially on ig or snap to be certain of it.

Unfortunately stereotypical Asian features are inherently ugly - but when a rare good looking one appears in the West, he has to marry a white woman. There's just no other way unless he's okay with having ugly children. If he dates an Asian girl, regression to the mean will happen and the children will not be very attractive. He avoids this situation by racemaxxing and diluting his genes.

The aesthetic problem is the recessed maxilla and eyes in a lot of Asians, even Asians themselves don't like it. I know how modern Chinese - Asians dislike their stereotypical features, and how they prefer a lot of white models for fashion shows nowadays.

If an Asian women is attracted to white European men, but she cannot get one, she will go for Arab men. East Asia has a surprisingly big Arab expatriate population, and they are still considered more attractive than the local people. Asian women go crazy if you tell them that you have an attractive Arab girlfriend. My friend did it once to mess with his sister and she thought he was a God for doing that. Most Asians like Nordics, the Spaniards, Western Europeans, Arabs, but blacks are invisible. Of course 99.9% of them will never date foreigners due to national boundaries, language barriers, cultural differences, lack of attraction from foreigners, but still you know it's not great in Asia.

but my case is a bit easier tbh, i always found tiny angelic skull better and it's more found on girls with ethnics admixture than nordics - never was attracted to these wide faced ones, or ashild ringhus alike- and i have a caucasoid skull, meanwhile you'r the fartest away from white people,and if you really find them gl, it's hard for you to find a compromise.
@Chineseguyslefort

It's hard to compromise. Maybe I will, but if I have to compromise, it will be for a levantine arab girl.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Unfortunately stereotypical Asian features are inherently ugly - but when a rare good looking one appears in the West, he has to marry a white woman. There's just no other way unless he's okay with having ugly children. If he dates an Asian girl, regression to the mean will happen and the children will not be very attractive. He avoids this situation by racemaxxing and diluting his genes.

The aesthetic problem is the recessed maxilla and eyes in a lot of Asians, even Asians themselves don't like it. I know how modern Chinese - Asians dislike their stereotypical features, and how they prefer a lot of white models for fashion shows nowadays.

If an Asian women is attracted to white European men, but she cannot get one, she will go for Arab men. East Asia has a surprisingly big Arab expatriate population, and they are still considered more attractive than the local people. Asian women go crazy if you tell them that you have an attractive Arab girlfriend. My friend did it once to mess with his sister and she thought he was a God for doing that. Most Asians like Nordics, the Spaniards, Western Europeans, Arabs, but blacks are invisible. Of course 99.9% of them will never date foreigners due to national boundaries, language barriers, cultural differences, lack of attraction from foreigners, but still you know it's not great in Asia.



It's hard to compromise. Maybe I will, but if I have to compromise, it will be for a levantine arab girl.

It all makes sense, tbh, i'm genuinely not attracted to asian girls unless they fake up all their faces, and do plastic surgeries to look more exotic.
But your insight is very interesting : I always thought that you need to be a nordic to have success with them, because as i told you, here, in the west my most success was with blond girls, then brunettes, all whites - but i lived and studied in an 99/100 white people area - then curries and arabs and black. Never "asian", at least not IRL.
Levantine looks fine if they are gl, the girls i mean. Here, girls looks way whiter than the guys. And i'm ngl, all the stacies did go for guys that i utter mog and that says a lot. but life is about luck also, maybe i'll never have what they got as wife, eventho i mog

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Who is the girl in your sig?

her name is stoya