JFL AT THIS PEDO NONCE APOLOGIA BOOKLET FROM THE 70S!

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Paedophilia: some questions and answers
Introduction
Paedophiles - - sexual lovers of children - - are generally hated, reared and despised by people who may never (consciously) have met one, and they are brutally penalised by existing laws. In the belief that knowledge dispels prejudice, this booklet sets out to answer the commonest questions and suppositions about paedophilia, and to argue that those involved represent no special threat to society, but on the contrary are often a force for social good.

 

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1. What is paedophilia ?
Sexual love directed towards children.(Concise Oxford Dictionary, 1976). Paederasty means etymologically much the same, although it is defined (by the C.O.D.) as “sodomy with a boy”.
2. What do you mean by “children'' ?
The word “child'’ is nowadays generally used to describe a person between birth and puberty. Some, however, regard childhood as to higher ages. People’s view of childhood has changed throughout history. ln other times quite young children coped with responsibilities that are now regarded as the province of adults, and in some cultures they still do. In the feudal period the term could include young adults and serfs. When we refer to “children” in this pamphlet, we mean both in pre-puberty and early adolescence.
3. Are paedophiles exclusively attracted to children ?
Often, but not necessarily.
4. What age-group attracts paedophiles ?
Usually somewhere in the 8-15 range.
5. Are all paedophiles male? Are they all homosexual?
No. They can be of either sex or any orientation.
6. Are they ever married? What about paedophile feelings within the family?
Some paedophiles are married. But some other parents are now aware of sexual feelings for their own children.
7. Would most paedophiles like to be ''normal'' ?
Some would, being tired of the furtiveness, guilt or repression forced on them by society. Others, believing that their sexuality is natural, harmless, and an integral part of their personality, would not wish to be changed even if this were possible --which it is not. (Imprisoned paedophiles often go through the motions of being ''cured'' for reasons of expediency)
8. Have they chosen to be paedophile ?
No more than other people have chosen their sexual feelings. They just happen to find themselves attracted to children.

 

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9. Is paedophilia an illness ?
Whether someone is “ill” can be very much a matter of opinion, as we know from those countries where political dissidents are conveniently declared "mentally ill". (All it means in such cases is that their views are unacceptable to the State). Much of the medical profession in this country was content, until quite recently, to consider homosexuality an illness. But as homosexuals have organised themselves to challenge this view, medical opinion itself has changed. Homosexuals are now widely regarded as ordinary, healthy people - - a minority, but no more "ill" than the minority who are left handed. There is no reason why paedophilia should not win similar acceptance.

10. Is it possible to change paedophiles ?
All psychiatrists can do is make them happier paedophiles. Otherwise, all that has been managed so far is to neutralise some paedophiles by treatment with drugs. Aversion therapy, unless achieving a complete breakdown of the personality, seems to have only a very temporary' effect.
It is not desirable to destroy a paedophile’s love for children. What is desirable is to change paedophiles from outcasts into useful members of a society which will accept non-parental love for children.

11. Surely paedophiles must be immature people ?
What is maturity ? Judged by one accepted yardstick - - the ability to cope with a demanding and responsible job - - we know that many paedophiles are well up to the mark, notably in the teaching profession. Many too, like good parents, have a highly developed (mature) sense of care and responsibility for the children they are with. As for “playing" with children, either sexually or otherwise, this is no evidence of a juvenile mind. Childish things aren’t necessarily immature in the sense of being ill-judged, and child attitudes to sex, for instance, tend to be a lot less neurotic than adult ones.
There is no such thing as a paedophile personality, any more than there is a paedophile physique or physiogomy.

12. Why aren’t they attracted to partners of their own age ?
Some of them are. As for the others, no-one seems to know - - there is an abundance of theory, but no solid evidence. They are certainly not necessarily people who can’t relate to other adults or get on well with them, though they often become aware of their paedophilia through their lack of attraction to adults. (But does the question really matter ? Other people don’t worry about why they are sexually interested in adults. Must everyone be the same ?)

 

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13. What attracts paedophiles to children, and especially to children of certain ages ?
The same range of factors that determines other people’s sexual and emotional preferences. For some, it is mainly a physical or aesthetic matter (the charm of smallness and lightness), for some it may be psychological (identification, nostalgia, or a need to protect), while for some it could have moral significance (a love of directness, innocence, emotional honesty - - qualities adults tend to lose). For most, probably, a mixture of these things. There are as many answers as there are paedophiles.
14. Is it true that paedophiles assault children ?
Almost never, in any meaningful sense of the word. Aggressiveness isn’t a paedophile trait. Matti Virkkunen pointed out in her 1975 study of paedophile “offences” that in many cases the child was a willing partner and the adult was “gentle, fond of children and benevolent”. (crazy if true) The legal term “indecent assault” is a misnomer which is largely to blame for the irrational fear with which paedophiles are regarded. It may mean nothing more than touching the child with his or her consent, and can refer to tender and mutually satisfying acts.

15. Surely paedophiles force children into sex ?
Again, almost never. As parents know, it’s hard enough, even with the full sanction of parenthood, to make children do things they don’t want to: and paedophiles, of all people, are in no position to bully or blackmail. The fact is that children are interested in sex from an early age - Kinsey noted that even infants are capable of orgasm - and are eager to make contact with a sympathetic person. Lauretta Bender and (((Abraham Blau))) wrote, as long ago as 1937, that a paedophile relationship is often initiated by the child. Sex between children and adults can arise with surprising naturalness and innocence in the context of, say, a swimming-bath or a summer camp. Physical exhilaration in children is often close to sexual arousal, and in a play situation many a startled teacher or supervising adult has been seduced by his charges.

16. But the adult must often be the seducer, obviously ?
Even in cases where the adult takes the lead, the word “seduction'' should not necessarily imply that the child is being led towards sin, corruption or other anti-sexual concepts. Perhaps a better word would be “introduction’’, or, as a Dutch Government report has suggested, “initiation''. The report draws this conclusion: “A society which seeks to eliminate seductive situations will not encourage public moral welfare. On the contrary, it is desirable for young people of both sexes that they are able to meet and cope with such situations. A normal development requires broad possibilities of introduction, experiment, contact and initiation''.

 

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Paedophilia: some questions and answers
Introduction
Paedophiles - - sexual lovers of children - - are generally hated, reared and despised by people who may never (consciously) have met one, and they are brutally penalised by existing laws. In the belief that knowledge dispels prejudice, this booklet sets out to answer the commonest questions and suppositions about paedophilia, and to argue that those involved represent no special threat to society, but on the contrary are often a force for social good.

In the uk we actually had some politicians who tried to pass boy love literally fucking kids it was in the 80/s I think

 

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17. Surely many children are not capable of sexual activity before puberty ?
Puberty is the time at which it becomes possible for children to reproduce; it is not the age at which sexual pleasure begins. Others besides Kinsey have shown that sexual activity and orgasm commonly occur in pre-pubescent children, and take much the same forms as with adults.
Boys frequently enjoy “dry orgasms” long before ejaculation is possible. The average age of puberty is around 14 for boys and 12 for girls, but it can arrive in some children as early as 6 (as if JFL), whereas others can be in their late ‘teens before it occurs.
18. What do paedophiles do sexually to children ?
It’s not so much what they do to children as what adult and child do and enjoy together. What happens physically depends on the sex, and to some extent, the age of the participants. Fondling, kissing and mutual masturbation are the most usual activities. Otherwise, just whatever adults - - or children - - do among themselves.
19. Why do we hear so little about women paedophiles ?
Criminal prosecutions in this field are very rare, probably because women can express their sexual feelings towards children in a far less obvious way than men. Mothers can be extremely sensual with their children, for instance, without attracting untoward attention, as indeed can women in such professions as social work, child nursing and teaching.
20. Won’t paedophile experience harm children physically ?
Folklore about common physical damage due to early sexual experience abounds, both from unofficial and official sources, but hard facts are seldom if ever offered, and those which can be inferred from official reports seem to refute it.
The Wolfenden Report on Homosexuality concluded that “cases in which physical injury results from the act of buggery are very rare”. In vaginal intercourse with girts, as with women, there is the possibility that the hymen will rupture, but real damage to the vagina is extremely uncommon.

 

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In the uk we actually had some politicians who tried to pass boy love literally fucking kids it was in the 80/s I think

Yeah, it is a Bri'ish publication. Crazy, innit? I'm no nonce, but I'm unironically Mirin how they articulate their points with studies and such.

 

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Yeah, it is a Bri'ish publication. Crazy, innit? I'm no nonce, but I'm unironically Mirin how they articulate their points with studies and such.

We casted away allot of the anti pedos to Australia that’s why they hate us among other things

 

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21. What about the risk of a young girl becoming pregnant ?
Pregnancy in a girl only becomes possible after she reaches the age at which she can menstruate. The average age for this is 12, but it can happen as young as 9, or rarely, at an even earlier age. The incidence of early pregnancy is low, and could be further reduced if information about birth control and abortion were more effectively spread and contraceptive aids made freely available to girls at the onset of puberty.
22. But shouldn't we protect children from VD ?
Certainly, by all possible means - - just as we should try to protect adults. But attitudes to VD, regarding it as somehow defiling or more terrible than other diseases, impede this. As a result, a cloud of secrecy covers the subject, and guilt and shame afflicts many of those infected, so that the disease remains untreated for a large proportion of the sufferers. It is untreated VD which is the real danger. There are children who have VD now, and the problem will not go away if we outlaw their sexual activity. On the contrary, only by encouraging children and adults to be less guilty about their sex lives, and providing them with knowledge of the symptoms of VD, will its incidence be reduced. More sex education and regular VD check-ups (perhaps even in schools) would help children to avoid the disease far more than unrealistic and socially harmful sexual puritanism does.
23. What about the psychological effect on the child ?
If a paedophilic experience is agreeable, there is no ill effect at all. In fact. Bender and Blau’s study showed that a number of pre-pubescent children who had had sexual contacts with adults seemed actually to benefit from it: “The emotional placidity of most of the children would seem to indicate that they derived some fundamental satisfaction from the relationship. The children rarely acted as injured parties and often did not show any evidence of guilt , anxiety or shame. Any emotional disturbance they presented could be attributed to external restraint rather than internal guilt”.
Mental or emotional distress in cases involving mutually desired relationships is caused, in other words, by intervention from police or parents.
24. Do paedophile contacts predispose children to become paedophile or homosexual ?
No — though this is a widely held view, and what magistrates usually mean when they speak of paedophiles “corrupting” children. (Should homosexuals or paedophiles be regarded as corrupt ?) Experts, including those reporting to the Wolfenden Committee, have found no evidence to support it.

 

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25. Surely children are innocent ?
Innocence in the sense of chastity is an invention of puritans - - particularly in the 19th Century - - who thought sex basically dirty. Truly innocent children simply enjoy sex and are interested in it. They have to be taught to fear and shun socially unapproved forms of it. It is not the paedophile who corrupts the child, but the puritan.
26. Do children really know what they’re doing ?
They often know a great deal more than they’re given credit for. Even without sex education, they have always known about masturbation, about “tickling” and “exploring”, and have done it among themselves.
27. But are children capable of “consenting” to sexual activity ?
This is a central question which needs to be answered at some length.
(a) Can children take a moral decision at an early age ?
One could study a child’s intellectual development, his growing awareness of moral concepts, in an attempt to pinpoint some age, or stage, at which he is capable of considering moral questions. But this would assume that the child needs to make some difficult decision. If we believe that sexual activity is morally neutral, neither “right” nor “wrong”, there is no need for the child (or anyone else) to worry over complicated questions. All that matters is whether the act is pleasurable. Some children will withhold consent because they have already been taught to accept their parents’ code. No-one ever asks whether they understand that.
(b) Surely children can’t always tell adults what they want ?
Even babies have ways of expressing their wishes, in broad terms, just by crying when they are hungry or have a wet nappy. By the time they have learnt a few key words like “yes” and "no”, “nice” and “nasty”, they have the basic equipment for giving or withholding consent. Not that an adult is likely to be in any doubt, simply from the child’s demeanour, as to whether he has its consent. If the child seems puzzled and hesitant, rather than relaxed and cheerful, he should assume that he hasn’t.
(c) How can a young child deter an adult ?
Just as rape, or the use of drugs or physical force on children, should be heavily penalised by law, so (more lightly) should pestering, upon the child’s complaint. At present, owing to the cloud of shame and unmentionability that hangs over sex, some children lack the social support that enables a girl, for instance, to refuse to dance with someone she doesn’t like. A healthier attitude would make it easier for the child to speak up, without feeling embarrassed about it. The problem, however, seems unlikely to be a major one. Children are obstinate refusers of things they don’t like, as any mother knows who has tried to bully them into eating unwelcome food; besides which most paedophiles, like other people, don’t enjoy sex with an unenthusiastic partner. The greatest danger, though not common, would be in an incestuous relationship, because parental control is hard for a child to challenge or evade. More freedom for children to make their own decisions would also have the effect of making them less vulnerable.
(d) What if the adult persists, and gets the child to agree to something it doesn’t really want ?
The adult should then be liable to legal action and social condemnation.