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As for My servants, no authority shalt thou have over them:" Enough is thy Lord for a Disposer of affairs.
—Qurʾān (Yusuf Ali's translation), sura 17 (Al-Isra), ayah 65[11]
Never sent We a messenger or a prophet before thee but when He recited (the message) Satan proposed (opposition) in respect of that which he recited thereof. But Allah abolisheth that which Satan proposeth. Then Allah establisheth His revelations. Allah is Knower, Wise;
That He may make that which the devil proposeth a temptation for those in whose hearts is a disease, and those whose hearts are hardened –Lo! the evil-doers are in open schism. (22:52,53)
There is a Problem with this,first the qu'ran claims satan has no Way against the mukhlaseen,Thus Saying the Prophets Are not mukhlaseen,Second According to the torah a Prophet who speasks in the name of a False god Should be Put to Death.Thus if this Verse is true,all Prophets Should be Put to Death.
However,Muhammad was put under a Magic spell by the Jew Ibn Asam and was underthis spell for one Year.
thus Surat al-falaq was ''''revealed''to put away magic.
plus The qu'ran claims muhammad was Misguided.
:
surat duha ayat 7
: And He found thee Misguided(mudhal), so He guided thee
surat duha ayat 8 :
And he found thee destitute, so He enriched thee.
(Well this verse refutes the claims muhammad was poor,After all he did have right to 1/5th of the War booty!)
thus the question Arises,Was Muhammad a Prophet and Servant of G-d?
—Qurʾān (Yusuf Ali's translation), sura 17 (Al-Isra), ayah 65[11]
Never sent We a messenger or a prophet before thee but when He recited (the message) Satan proposed (opposition) in respect of that which he recited thereof. But Allah abolisheth that which Satan proposeth. Then Allah establisheth His revelations. Allah is Knower, Wise;
That He may make that which the devil proposeth a temptation for those in whose hearts is a disease, and those whose hearts are hardened –Lo! the evil-doers are in open schism. (22:52,53)
There is a Problem with this,first the qu'ran claims satan has no Way against the mukhlaseen,Thus Saying the Prophets Are not mukhlaseen,Second According to the torah a Prophet who speasks in the name of a False god Should be Put to Death.Thus if this Verse is true,all Prophets Should be Put to Death.
However,Muhammad was put under a Magic spell by the Jew Ibn Asam and was underthis spell for one Year.
thus Surat al-falaq was ''''revealed''to put away magic.
plus The qu'ran claims muhammad was Misguided.
:
surat duha ayat 7
: And He found thee Misguided(mudhal), so He guided thee
surat duha ayat 8 :
And he found thee destitute, so He enriched thee.
(Well this verse refutes the claims muhammad was poor,After all he did have right to 1/5th of the War booty!)
thus the question Arises,Was Muhammad a Prophet and Servant of G-d?
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Not all of them are alike. Some of the People of the Book are an upright people. They recite the signs (or verses) of God in the night season and they bow down worshipping. They believe in God and the last day. They command what is just, and forbid what is wrong and they hasten in good works, and they are of the righteous. S. 3:113-114
"Of the people of Moses there is a section who guide and do justice in the light of truth ... After them succeeded an (evil) generation: They inherited the Book, but they chose (for themselves) the vanities of this world, saying (for excuse): '(Everything) will be forgiven us.' (Even so), if similar vanities came their way, they would (again) seize them. Was not the covenant of the Book taken from them, that they would not ascribe to Allah anything but the truth? AND THEY STUDY WHAT IS IN THE BOOK. But best for the righteous is the home in the Hereafter. Will ye not understand? As to those WHO HOLD FAST BY THE BOOK and establish regular prayer, - never shall We suffer the reward of the righteous to perish." S. 7:159, 169-170 A. Yusuf Ali
But why do they come to thee for decision, WHEN THEY HAVE TORAH - THEREIN IS THE COMMAND OF ALLAH; yet even after that, they would turn away. For they are not (really) People of Faith. It was We who revealed the Torah (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islám) to Allah's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and sell not My signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are unbelievers. We ordained therein for them: 'Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.' But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself. And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are wrong-doers." S. 5:43-45
"And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, CONFIRMING THE TORAH THAT CAME BEFORE HIM: We sent him the Gospel: therein IS guidance and light, AND CONFIRMATION OF THE TORAH THAT HAD COME BEFORE HIM: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah. Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel." S. 5:46-47
Qur'an 2:89 "...a book from Allah verifying that which they have."
Qur'an 2:91 "...verifying that which they have."
Qur'an 2:101 "..threw the book of Allah behind their backs as if they knew nothing."
Qur'an 2:101 "..a messenger from Allah verifying that which they have."
Qur'an 2:140 "he who conceals a testimony that he has from Allah."
Qur'an 3:81 "...verifying that which is with you."
Qur'an 4:47 "...verifying what you have."
Qur'an 5:43 "They HAVE the Taurat wherein is Allah's Judgment."
Qur'an 20:133 "...has there not come clear evidence of what is in the previous books?"
But if you are in doubt as to what We have revealed to you, ask those who read the Book before you; certainly the truth has come to you from your Lord, therefore you should not be of the disputers.
Qur'an 10:94
Sura 7:156-157:
"And I will write down (my mercy) for those who are righteous and give alms and who believe in our signs; who follow the apostle, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in the Torah and the Gospel THAT IS WITH THEM.
Sura 5:71:
"Say, O People of the Book! You are not (founded) on anything UNTIL you PERFORM the TORAH and the GOSPEL, and what was revealed to you from your Lord."
Sura 3:93-94:
"All food was lawful to the children of Israel except what Israel made unlawful for itself before the Torah was revealed. Say, `BRING the TORAH and READ it, if you are men of truth.' If any, after this, invent a lie and attribute it to God, they are indeed transgressors."
Sura. 28:48-49:
"But when the truth has come to them from Us, they say: `why is he not given the like of what was given to Moses?' Did they not disbelieve in that which was given to Moses before? They say: `Two kinds of magic (the Torah and the Quran) each helping the other!' And they say: `Verily! In both we are disbelievers.' Say (to them, O Muhammad): `Then bring a Book from Allah, which is a better guide than these TWO (the Torah and the Quran), that I may follow it, if you are truthful.'"
( muslims ALWAYS say produce poetry like the quran,yet the ''bring a surah like it Challenge ''also refers to the Torah!if the Torah were not available,how could people fulfill the Challenge?)
Sura 2:113:
"The Jews say, `The Christians are not (founded) upon anything.' And the Christians say, `The Jews are not (founded) upon anything.' And yet THEY READ THE BOOK."
Sura 3:79:
"It is not for a man to whom is given the Book and wisdom and prophecy that he should then say to people, `Be worshippers of me in place of God.' But rather, `Be true teachers (rabbáníyín), since you TEACH the BOOK and you STUDY IT EARNESTLY."
(muhammad is telling us to Be Rabbis)
Sura 5:48:
"To you (Muhammad) We revealed the book in truth, attesting to that which IS between his hands from the scripture , and guarding it (wa muhaiminan `alaihi).
Sura 10:37:
"This Quran is not such as can be produced by other than God; but it is a verification of that (the Torah and Gospel) which IS between his (its) hands, and the explanation of the Book, WHEREIN THERE IS NO DOUBT, from the Lord of the worlds."
Sura 46:12:
"And before this was the Book of Moses as a guide and a mercy: and this Book is a verification (of it) in the Arabic tongue to warn those who transgress and as glad tidings to the righteous."
Sura 26:192-197:
"And lo! It is a revelation of the Lord of the Worlds, which the True Spirit hath brought down upon thy heart, that thou mayest be (one) of the warners, In Plain Arabic Speech. And lo! It is in the Scriptures of the men of old. Is it not a token for them that the doctors of the children of Israel know it?"
Ayah 15:9 [Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr and surely, We will guard it],
Muslims always use this to say god WILL guard the quran but WAIT
In the past We granted to Moses and Aaron the Criterion (al-Furqana) (for judgment), And a Light and a Message (Zikra) for those who would do right." [S. 21:48]
"Before this, We wrote in the Psalms, after THE REMINDER (Zhikri): `My servants, the righteous, shall inherit the earth.'" [S. 21:105]
THE TORAH IS ALSO THE DHIKR
2.The quran only says some people distorted the Book with THEIR tongues:
S. 2:79, but rather to the following verses:
There is among them a section who distort the Book WITH THEIR TONGUES: (As they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, "That is from Allah," but it is not from Allah. It is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it! S. 3:78
Al- Qur'an Says that the Bible:
Was in the possession of Yahya, Mary and Jesus - 3:48; 19:12; 66:12
Was with or in the possession of the Jews of Muhammad's day
- 2:41,89,91,101,140; 3:81; 4:47; 5:43; 16:43-44; 21:7
Was shown in public by them - 6:92
Was heard by them - 2:75
Was believed in by them - 2:85,91,121; 11:17
Was read (qaraa) by them and the Christians - 10:94
Was studied (darasa) by them and the Christians - 3:79; 6:156; 7:169
Was recited (talawa) by them and the Christians - 2:44,113,121; 3:93,113;
"with true recitation" - 2:121
Was available to Muhammad - 3:93; 28:49
Was available to anyone in Muhammad's time and could be called upon to determine truth in theological disputes - 3:23,93; 7:157; 26:196-197; 46:10; 53:36-38; and was in fact used by a Jew in comparison to the Qur'an - 46:10 (see Ibn Ishaq, pp 240-241).
And they measure not the power of Allah its true measure when they say: Allah hath naught revealed unto a human being. Say (unto the Jews who speak thus): Who revealed the Book which Moses brought, a light and guidance for mankind, which ye have put on parchments which ye show, but ye hide much (thereof), and (by which) ye were taught that which ye knew not yourselves nor (did) your fathers (know it)? Say: Allah. Then leave them to their play of cavilling.(6:92)
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"No change can there be in the Words of Allah (Sura 10:64)
"There is none that can alter the Words of Allah (Sura 6:34)
We have a PROBLEM:
1.if we Believe the Quran,i.e affirm the torah,we cant be muslim,as the Two books Contradict.
2.if we Claim the Torah is Corrupted we can't Be muslim as we are denying :No change can there be in the Words of Allah (Sura 10:64)
"There is none that can alter the Words of Allah (Sura 6:34)
"Of the people of Moses there is a section who guide and do justice in the light of truth ... After them succeeded an (evil) generation: They inherited the Book, but they chose (for themselves) the vanities of this world, saying (for excuse): '(Everything) will be forgiven us.' (Even so), if similar vanities came their way, they would (again) seize them. Was not the covenant of the Book taken from them, that they would not ascribe to Allah anything but the truth? AND THEY STUDY WHAT IS IN THE BOOK. But best for the righteous is the home in the Hereafter. Will ye not understand? As to those WHO HOLD FAST BY THE BOOK and establish regular prayer, - never shall We suffer the reward of the righteous to perish." S. 7:159, 169-170 A. Yusuf Ali
But why do they come to thee for decision, WHEN THEY HAVE TORAH - THEREIN IS THE COMMAND OF ALLAH; yet even after that, they would turn away. For they are not (really) People of Faith. It was We who revealed the Torah (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islám) to Allah's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and sell not My signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are unbelievers. We ordained therein for them: 'Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.' But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself. And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are wrong-doers." S. 5:43-45
"And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, CONFIRMING THE TORAH THAT CAME BEFORE HIM: We sent him the Gospel: therein IS guidance and light, AND CONFIRMATION OF THE TORAH THAT HAD COME BEFORE HIM: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah. Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel." S. 5:46-47
Qur'an 2:89 "...a book from Allah verifying that which they have."
Qur'an 2:91 "...verifying that which they have."
Qur'an 2:101 "..threw the book of Allah behind their backs as if they knew nothing."
Qur'an 2:101 "..a messenger from Allah verifying that which they have."
Qur'an 2:140 "he who conceals a testimony that he has from Allah."
Qur'an 3:81 "...verifying that which is with you."
Qur'an 4:47 "...verifying what you have."
Qur'an 5:43 "They HAVE the Taurat wherein is Allah's Judgment."
Qur'an 20:133 "...has there not come clear evidence of what is in the previous books?"
But if you are in doubt as to what We have revealed to you, ask those who read the Book before you; certainly the truth has come to you from your Lord, therefore you should not be of the disputers.
Qur'an 10:94
Sura 7:156-157:
"And I will write down (my mercy) for those who are righteous and give alms and who believe in our signs; who follow the apostle, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in the Torah and the Gospel THAT IS WITH THEM.
Sura 5:71:
"Say, O People of the Book! You are not (founded) on anything UNTIL you PERFORM the TORAH and the GOSPEL, and what was revealed to you from your Lord."
Sura 3:93-94:
"All food was lawful to the children of Israel except what Israel made unlawful for itself before the Torah was revealed. Say, `BRING the TORAH and READ it, if you are men of truth.' If any, after this, invent a lie and attribute it to God, they are indeed transgressors."
Sura. 28:48-49:
"But when the truth has come to them from Us, they say: `why is he not given the like of what was given to Moses?' Did they not disbelieve in that which was given to Moses before? They say: `Two kinds of magic (the Torah and the Quran) each helping the other!' And they say: `Verily! In both we are disbelievers.' Say (to them, O Muhammad): `Then bring a Book from Allah, which is a better guide than these TWO (the Torah and the Quran), that I may follow it, if you are truthful.'"
( muslims ALWAYS say produce poetry like the quran,yet the ''bring a surah like it Challenge ''also refers to the Torah!if the Torah were not available,how could people fulfill the Challenge?)
Sura 2:113:
"The Jews say, `The Christians are not (founded) upon anything.' And the Christians say, `The Jews are not (founded) upon anything.' And yet THEY READ THE BOOK."
Sura 3:79:
"It is not for a man to whom is given the Book and wisdom and prophecy that he should then say to people, `Be worshippers of me in place of God.' But rather, `Be true teachers (rabbáníyín), since you TEACH the BOOK and you STUDY IT EARNESTLY."
(muhammad is telling us to Be Rabbis)
Sura 5:48:
"To you (Muhammad) We revealed the book in truth, attesting to that which IS between his hands from the scripture , and guarding it (wa muhaiminan `alaihi).
Sura 10:37:
"This Quran is not such as can be produced by other than God; but it is a verification of that (the Torah and Gospel) which IS between his (its) hands, and the explanation of the Book, WHEREIN THERE IS NO DOUBT, from the Lord of the worlds."
Sura 46:12:
"And before this was the Book of Moses as a guide and a mercy: and this Book is a verification (of it) in the Arabic tongue to warn those who transgress and as glad tidings to the righteous."
Sura 26:192-197:
"And lo! It is a revelation of the Lord of the Worlds, which the True Spirit hath brought down upon thy heart, that thou mayest be (one) of the warners, In Plain Arabic Speech. And lo! It is in the Scriptures of the men of old. Is it not a token for them that the doctors of the children of Israel know it?"
Ayah 15:9 [Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr and surely, We will guard it],
Muslims always use this to say god WILL guard the quran but WAIT
In the past We granted to Moses and Aaron the Criterion (al-Furqana) (for judgment), And a Light and a Message (Zikra) for those who would do right." [S. 21:48]
"Before this, We wrote in the Psalms, after THE REMINDER (Zhikri): `My servants, the righteous, shall inherit the earth.'" [S. 21:105]
THE TORAH IS ALSO THE DHIKR
2.The quran only says some people distorted the Book with THEIR tongues:
S. 2:79, but rather to the following verses:
There is among them a section who distort the Book WITH THEIR TONGUES: (As they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, "That is from Allah," but it is not from Allah. It is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it! S. 3:78
Al- Qur'an Says that the Bible:
Was in the possession of Yahya, Mary and Jesus - 3:48; 19:12; 66:12
Was with or in the possession of the Jews of Muhammad's day
- 2:41,89,91,101,140; 3:81; 4:47; 5:43; 16:43-44; 21:7
Was shown in public by them - 6:92
Was heard by them - 2:75
Was believed in by them - 2:85,91,121; 11:17
Was read (qaraa) by them and the Christians - 10:94
Was studied (darasa) by them and the Christians - 3:79; 6:156; 7:169
Was recited (talawa) by them and the Christians - 2:44,113,121; 3:93,113;
"with true recitation" - 2:121
Was available to Muhammad - 3:93; 28:49
Was available to anyone in Muhammad's time and could be called upon to determine truth in theological disputes - 3:23,93; 7:157; 26:196-197; 46:10; 53:36-38; and was in fact used by a Jew in comparison to the Qur'an - 46:10 (see Ibn Ishaq, pp 240-241).
And they measure not the power of Allah its true measure when they say: Allah hath naught revealed unto a human being. Say (unto the Jews who speak thus): Who revealed the Book which Moses brought, a light and guidance for mankind, which ye have put on parchments which ye show, but ye hide much (thereof), and (by which) ye were taught that which ye knew not yourselves nor (did) your fathers (know it)? Say: Allah. Then leave them to their play of cavilling.(6:92)
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"No change can there be in the Words of Allah (Sura 10:64)
"There is none that can alter the Words of Allah (Sura 6:34)
We have a PROBLEM:
1.if we Believe the Quran,i.e affirm the torah,we cant be muslim,as the Two books Contradict.
2.if we Claim the Torah is Corrupted we can't Be muslim as we are denying :No change can there be in the Words of Allah (Sura 10:64)
"There is none that can alter the Words of Allah (Sura 6:34)
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a common objection i get from muslims is that the word Yahudi or Yahadut,they claim is nowhere in the qu'ran and that god forbid,we are named after Yahudah ben Yaqob.
The funny thing is Yahudah ben Yaqob''s Aunt was named Yahudith.
Yahud comes from the Same root as Al-Hadda(judaism in Arabic)A-Huda(guidance in Arabic)Mahdi(Guided one in Arabic),Hadi(guide in Arabic) and Yahdi (He guides)it signifies one who follows the guidance.
first let us Stress the name is not Important.Through out history the true followers of prophets have been called many Things,The Fearers of heaven,the submitters and the jews.
0 I myself will stay at Mizpah to represent you before the Babylonians who come to us, but you are to harvest the wine, summer fruit and olive oil, and put them in your storage jars, and live in the towns you have taken over."
11 When all the JEWS in Moab, Ammon, Edom and all the other countries heard that the king of Babylon had left a remnant in Judah and had appointed Gedaliah son of Ahikam, the son of Shaphan, as governor over them, 12 they all came back to the land of Judah, to Gedaliah at Mizpah, from all the countries where they had been scattered. And they harvested an abundance of wine and summer fruit.
Jeremiah 40:10-12
9 "While the Jews are watching, take some large stones with you and bury them in clay in the brick pavement at the entrance to Pharaoh's palace in Tahpanhes.
Jeremiah 43:9
Daniel 3:8
8 At this time some astrologers came forward and denounced the JEWS.
Daniel 3:12
12 But there are some JEWS whom you have set over the affairs of the province of Babylon—Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego—who pay no attention to you, Your Majesty. They neither serve your gods nor worship the image of gold you have set up."
Ezra 6:7
7 Do not interfere with the work on this temple of God. Let the governor of the JEWS and the JEWISH elders rebuild this house of God on its site.
Ezra 5:5
5 But the eye of their God was watching over the elders of the JEWS , and they were not stopped until a report could go to Darius and his written reply be received.
SEE
Ezra 4:23
Ezra 5:1
Ezra 6:8
Ezra 6:14
Nehemiah 2:16
Nehemiah 4:1
Nehemiah 4:2
Nehemiah 4:12
Nehemiah 5:1
Nehemiah 5:5
Nehemiah 5:8
Nehemiah 5:17
Nehemiah 6:6
Esther 3:1
Esther 3:6
Esther 3:10
Esther 3:13
Esther 4:3
Esther 4:7
Esther 4:13
Esther 4:14
Esther 4:16
Esther 8:1
Second the word muslim ,is used in the tanakh ,in the Aramaic Version Called the Targum(wich was in wide use in Muhammad's time by Arabic jews)refering to non-Jewish Believers as ''muslimai''.this term for monotheistic belivers was popular among Jews in Arabia who till this day Read the Targum out loud.Thus we Can see where muhammad might of got the name for his Followers From.
The funny thing is Yahudah ben Yaqob''s Aunt was named Yahudith.
Yahud comes from the Same root as Al-Hadda(judaism in Arabic)A-Huda(guidance in Arabic)Mahdi(Guided one in Arabic),Hadi(guide in Arabic) and Yahdi (He guides)it signifies one who follows the guidance.
first let us Stress the name is not Important.Through out history the true followers of prophets have been called many Things,The Fearers of heaven,the submitters and the jews.
0 I myself will stay at Mizpah to represent you before the Babylonians who come to us, but you are to harvest the wine, summer fruit and olive oil, and put them in your storage jars, and live in the towns you have taken over."
11 When all the JEWS in Moab, Ammon, Edom and all the other countries heard that the king of Babylon had left a remnant in Judah and had appointed Gedaliah son of Ahikam, the son of Shaphan, as governor over them, 12 they all came back to the land of Judah, to Gedaliah at Mizpah, from all the countries where they had been scattered. And they harvested an abundance of wine and summer fruit.
Jeremiah 40:10-12
9 "While the Jews are watching, take some large stones with you and bury them in clay in the brick pavement at the entrance to Pharaoh's palace in Tahpanhes.
Jeremiah 43:9
Daniel 3:8
8 At this time some astrologers came forward and denounced the JEWS.
Daniel 3:12
12 But there are some JEWS whom you have set over the affairs of the province of Babylon—Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego—who pay no attention to you, Your Majesty. They neither serve your gods nor worship the image of gold you have set up."
Ezra 6:7
7 Do not interfere with the work on this temple of God. Let the governor of the JEWS and the JEWISH elders rebuild this house of God on its site.
Ezra 5:5
5 But the eye of their God was watching over the elders of the JEWS , and they were not stopped until a report could go to Darius and his written reply be received.
SEE
Ezra 4:23
Ezra 5:1
Ezra 6:8
Ezra 6:14
Nehemiah 2:16
Nehemiah 4:1
Nehemiah 4:2
Nehemiah 4:12
Nehemiah 5:1
Nehemiah 5:5
Nehemiah 5:8
Nehemiah 5:17
Nehemiah 6:6
Esther 3:1
Esther 3:6
Esther 3:10
Esther 3:13
Esther 4:3
Esther 4:7
Esther 4:13
Esther 4:14
Esther 4:16
Esther 8:1
Second the word muslim ,is used in the tanakh ,in the Aramaic Version Called the Targum(wich was in wide use in Muhammad's time by Arabic jews)refering to non-Jewish Believers as ''muslimai''.this term for monotheistic belivers was popular among Jews in Arabia who till this day Read the Targum out loud.Thus we Can see where muhammad might of got the name for his Followers From.
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Why Believe in Torah Above later Books?
In this Article i wish to Explain The Reason Both Jesus and Muhammad have been Rejected among the People of Israel in the Last 1400 Years.I do not Wish to Offend Anyone,but To Make cleary.
First ,the Torah Standard Between True Prophet and False Prophet is As follows:
Deuteronomy 13 1 If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them," 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is TESTING you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his COMMANDMENTS and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. That prophet or dreamer tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.
Thus the Distiguisher between a True and False Prophet is his Adherence to the 613 Miswoth.
2 Kings 23
3 The king stood by the pillar and RENEWED the covenant in the presence of the LORD—to follow the LORD and keep his COMMANDS, STATUTES and DECREES with all his heart and all his soul, thus confirming the words of the covenant written in this book. Then all the people pledged themselves to the covenant.
4 The king ordered Hilkiah the high priest, the priests next in rank and the doorkeepers to remove from the temple of the LORD all the articles made for Baal and Asherah and all the starry hosts. He burned them outside Jerusalem in the fields of the Kidron Valley and took the ashes to Bethel. 5 He did away with the idolatrous priests appointed by the kings of Judah to burn incense on the high places of the towns of Judah and on those around Jerusalem—those who burned incense to Baal, to the sun and moon, to the constellations and to all the starry hosts. 6 He took the Asherah pole from the temple of the LORD to the Kidron Valley outside Jerusalem and burned it there. He ground it to powder and scattered the dust over the graves of the common people. 7 He also tore down the quarters of the male shrine prostitutes that were in the temple of the LORD, the quarters where women did weaving for Asherah.
8 Josiah brought all the priests from the towns of Judah and desecrated the high places, from Geba to Beersheba, where the priests had burned incense. He broke down the gateway at the entrance of the Gate of Joshua, the city governor, which was on the left of the city gate. 9 Although the priests of the high places did not serve at the altar of the LORD in Jerusalem, they ate unleavened bread with their fellow priests.
10 He desecrated Topheth, which was in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, so no one could use it to sacrifice their son or daughter in the fire to Molek. 11 He removed from the entrance to the temple of the LORD the horses that the kings of Judah had dedicated to the sun. They were in the court[a] near the room of an official named Nathan-Melek. Josiah then burned the chariots dedicated to the sun.
12 He pulled down the altars the kings of Judah had erected on the roof near the upper room of Ahaz, and the altars Manasseh had built in the two courts of the temple of the LORD. He removed them from there, smashed them to pieces and threw the rubble into the Kidron Valley. 13 The king also desecrated the high places that were east of Jerusalem on the south of the Hill of Corruption—the ones Solomon king of Israel had built for Ashtoreth the vile goddess of the Sidonians, for Chemosh the vile god of Moab, and for Molek the detestable god of the people of Ammon. 14 Josiah smashed the sacred stones and cut down the Asherah poles and covered the sites with human bones.
15 Even the altar at Bethel, the high place made by Jeroboam son of Nebat, who had caused Israel to sin—even that altar and high place he demolished. He burned the high place and ground it to powder, and burned the Asherah pole also. 16 Then Josiah looked around, and when he saw the tombs that were there on the hillside, he had the bones removed from them and burned on the altar to defile it, in accordance with the word of the LORD proclaimed by the man of God who foretold these things.
17 The king asked, "What is that tombstone I see?"
The people of the city said, "It marks the tomb of the man of God who came from Judah and pronounced against the altar of Bethel the very things you have done to it."
18 "Leave it alone," he said. "Don't let anyone disturb his bones." So they spared his bones and those of the prophet who had come from Samaria.
19 Just as he had done at Bethel, Josiah removed all the shrines at the high places that the kings of Israel had built in the towns of Samaria and that had aroused the LORD's anger. 20 Josiah slaughtered all the priests of those high places on the altars and burned human bones on them. Then he went back to Jerusalem.
21 The king gave this order to all the people: "Celebrate the Passover to the LORD your God, as it is written in this Book of the Covenant." 22 Neither in the days of the judges who led Israel nor in the days of the kings of Israel and the kings of Judah had any such Passover been observed. 23 But in the eighteenth year of King Josiah, this Passover was celebrated to the LORD in Jerusalem.
24 Furthermore, Josiah got rid of the mediums and spiritists, the household gods, the idols and all the other detestable things seen in Judah and Jerusalem. This he did to fulfill the requirements of the law written in the book that Hilkiah the priest had discovered in the temple of the LORD. 25 Neither before nor after Josiah was there a king like him who turned to the LORD as he did—with all his heart and with all his soul and with all his strength, in accordance with all the LAW OF MOSES.
Thus as We See the Law of Moses Was Being Practiced after the Time of solomon.
Deuteronomy 30
1 When all these blessings and curses I have set before you come on you and you take them to heart wherever the LORD your God disperses you among the nations, 2 and when you and your children return to the LORD your God and obey him with all your heart and with all your soul according to everything I command you today,
3 then the LORD your God will restore your fortunes[a] and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where he scattered you.
4 Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the LORD your God will gather you and bring you back.
5 He will bring you to the land that belonged to your ancestors, and you will take possession of it. He will make you more prosperous and numerous than your ancestors. 6 The LORD your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you may love him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live.
7 The LORD your God will put all these curses on your enemies who hate and persecute you. 8 You will AGAIN obey the LORD and follow all his commands I am giving you TODAY.
9 Then the LORD your God will make you most prosperous in all the work of your hands and in the fruit of your womb, the young of your livestock and the crops of your land. The LORD will AGAIN delight in you and make you prosperous, just as he delighted in your ancestors,
10 if you obey the LORD your God and keep his commands and decrees that are written in THIS Torah and turn to the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
11 Now what I am commanding you today is *******NOT ****** too difficult for you or beyond your reach. 12 It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask, "Who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?" 13 ****Nor is it beyond the sea,****** so that you have to ask, "Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?" 14 No, the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart so you may obey it.
(Didn't Paul say the law is a Burden noone can keep?isn't this what Christians always Say?)
15 See, I set before you today life and prosperity, death and destruction. 16 For I command you today to love the LORD your God, to walk in obedience to him, and to ******keep his commands, decrees and laws;***** then you will live and increase, and the LORD your God will bless you in the land you are entering to possess.
(this shows that the purpose of the law is life,the reason god gave us israel is to practice the law)
17 But if your heart turns away and you are not obedient, and if you are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them, 18 I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess.
2 Chronicles 6
16 "Now, LORD, the God of Israel, keep for your servant David my father the promises you made to him when you said, 'You shall never fail to have a successor to sit before me on the throne of Israel, if only your descendants are careful in all they do to walk before me according to my LAW, as you have done.'
17 And now, LORD, the God of Israel, let your word that you promised your servant David come true.
****** 18 "But will God really dwell on earth with humans? The heavens, even the highest heavens, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built! *******
19 Yet, LORD my God, give attention to your servant's prayer and his plea for mercy. Hear the cry and the prayer that your servant is praying in your presence.
20 May your eyes be open toward this temple day and night, this place of which you said you would put your Name there. May you hear the prayer your servant prays toward this place. 21 Hear the supplications of your servant and of your people Israel when they pray toward this place. Hear from heaven, your dwelling place; and when you hear, forgive.
I will not carry out my fierce anger, nor will I turn and devastate Ephraim. For I am God, and not man--the Holy One among you. I will not come in wrath.
Hosea 11:9
"I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.Malachi 3:6
Psalm 102:27 But you remain the same, and your years will never end.
This is a permanent law for generations to come wherever you live: Never eat any fat or blood."Leviticus 3:17
Genesis 9:12
And God said, "This is the sign of the covenant I am making between me and you and every living creature with you, a covenant for all generations to come:
Genesis 17:7
I will establish my covenant as an EVERLASTING covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.
Exodus 31:16
The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a LASTING covenant.
Leviticus 23:31
You shall do no work at all. This is to be a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live.
(the word lasting here is u3lem wich means forever)
Numbers 15:15
The community is to have the same rules for you and for the foreigner residing among you; this is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. You and the foreigner shall be the same before the LORD:
(this refers to Converts)
Genesis 17:8
The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God."
(so much for Palestine being for the muslims)
Genesis 17:19
Then God said, "Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him.
1 Chronicles 16:17
He confirmed it to Jacob as a decree, to Israel as an everlasting covenant:
Psalm 119:142
Your righteousness is everlasting and your law is true.
Isaiah 24:5
The earth is defiled by its people; they have disobeyed the laws, violated the statutes and broken the everlasting covenant.
Isaiah 45:17
But Israel will be saved by the LORD with an everlasting salvation; you will never be put to shame or disgraced, to ages everlasting.
Isaiah 55:3
Give ear and come to me; listen, that you may live. I will make an everlasting covenant with you, my faithful love promised to David.
(i.e the Messiah wich muslims Believe is the Dajjal!)
Isaiah 60:15
"Although you have been forsaken and hated, with no one traveling through, I will make you the everlasting pride and the joy of all generations.
Isaiah 61:8
"For I, the LORD, love justice; I hate robbery and wrongdoing. In my faithfulness I will reward my people and make an everlasting covenant with them.
Jeremiah 32:40
I will make an everlasting covenant with them: I will never stop doing good to them, and I will inspire them to fear me, so that they will never turn away from me.
Jeremiah 50:5
They will ask the way to Zion and turn their faces toward it. They will come and bind themselves to the LORD in an everlasting covenant that will not be forgotten.
Ezekiel 16:60
Yet I will remember the covenant I made with you in the days of your youth, and I will establish an everlasting covenant with you.
Ezekiel 37:26
I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant. I will establish them and increase their numbers, and I will put my sanctuary among them forever.
Psalm 111:5-9
"He has given food to those who revere Him;
He will remember His covenant FOREVER
He has made known to His people the power of His works,
In giving them the heritage of the nations.
The works of His hands are true and just;
All His precepts are certain.
They are upheld forever and ever;
They are carried out in truth and uprightness.
He has sent deliverance to His people;
He has ordained His covenant FOREVER
Holy and awesome is His name."
Psalm 105:8-11, 45
He has remembered His covenant FOREVER
The word which He ordered to a thousand generations,
The covenant that He made with Abraham,
And His oath to Isaac.
Then He confirmed it to Jacob as a statute,
To Israel as a covenant EVELASTING
Saying, "To you I shall give the land of Canaan,
As the portion of your inheritance,"
....In order that they shall keep His statutes and observe His laws,
Praise the L-RD!
Psalm 119:44 "So I will keep Your Torah - continually forever and ever."
Psalm 119:111-112 "I have inherited Your testimonies forever, for they are the joy of my heart. For I have inclined my heart to do Your statutes forever, unto the end."
Psalm 119:144 "Your testimonies are forever right; Grant me understanding that I may live."
Psalm 119:152 "From long ago I have known your testimonies, that You have established them forever."
Leviticus 3:17 "It is a law forever throughout your generations in all your dwelling places.."
Leviticus 6:18 "it is a permanent law throughout all your generations.."
Leviticus 6:22 "by an eternal ordinance it shall be entirely offered.."
Leviticus 7:36 "it is an eternal law for their generations."
Leviticus 16:34 "Now this is to you an everlasting ordinance.."
Leviticus 16:29 "This is to you a permanent law.."
Leviticus 17:7 "This is to them for an everlasting law in all their generations.."
Leviticus 23:14 "is to you a perpetual ordinance in all your dwelling places throughout your generations.."
Numbers 15:15 "As for the community (of Israel), there shall be one law for you and for the one who converted and joined with you; An eternal Law throughout your generations, as you are, so shall the convert be before the ALL-TRANSCENDENT One."
Numbers 19:21 "So it is a law forever for them.."
A prophet or teacher (or preacher) who comes along and claims to believe that the 'Old Testament' is the Word of G-d, but at the same time believes that the 'Old Testament' is no longer applicable or valid, declares that the Almighty is a liar for saying all these statements listed here. In addition to this, anyone who teaches that the 'Old Testament' is abolished and is no longer applicable fulfills Deuteronomy 13:5 "But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams must be put to death, because he has instructed rebellion against the L-RD your G-d.....seducing you from the way in which the L-RD your G-d commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the wickedness from among you."
When this verse says 'the way in which the L-rd' commanded them to walk, it is referring to the Law of Moses, the Torah, as it plainly continues on to say:
"...heed the voice of the L-RD your Gd, by keeping all His commandments which I am commanding you today, and doing what is right in the sight of the L-RD your G-d." - Deuteronomy 13:18
"...the hidden things belong to the L-RD our G-d, but that which is revealed belongs to us and our sons forever to do all the words of this Torah."
- Deuteronomy 29:29
The Torah of the L-RD is whole, restoring the soul; The testimony of the L-RD is trustworthy, making the simple wise." - Psalm 19:7
"What all that I am commanding you, you shall not add to this Word, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the ALL-TRANSCENDENT your Exceedingly Powerful Authority, which I command you." - Deuteronomy 4:2
..that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he spoke bringing rebellion against the ALL-TRANSCENDENT your Exceedingly Powerful Authority, He Who brought you from the Land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of slavery, (this false prophet has come) to seduce you to go away from the path in which the ALL-TRANSCENDENT your Exceedingly Powerful Authority commanded you to walk..." - Deuteronomy 13:5
The path that He commanded them to walk on is this same Torah (Law of Moses), as is clear from the context of this verse,
"...to walk after the ALL-TRANSCENDENT One, and to keep His commandments and His testimonies and His statues with all the heart and all the soul, to carry out the words of this covenant that were written in this Book,...according to all the Law of Moses." - II Kings 23:3,25
As is written, to walk contrary to THIS path is "to rebel against the ALL-TRANSCENDENT One." Therefore, ANYONE who teaches others to walk contrary to this Law of Moses is a false prophet worthy of the death penalty according to Deuteronomy 13:5.
The last book of the prophets, the Book of Malachi, ENDS with an admonition to remember the Torah (Law of Moses) before the "great and awesome day of the L-RD." Malachi 3:22 says,
"Remember the Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded him at Horeb, for all Israel - its decrees and statutes."
Thus as we can see from the Precise words of Hashem,his torahot and miswoth are Everlastingad can e changed by noone.
Ask Yourself Did jesus and His followers,and muhammad obey the torah or make their own laws?
To Those claiming the torah is corrupted(even though the Quran and hadith say that nowhere),Read Your own Verses:
The words of the Lord are perfect in truth and justice;
there is NONE who can change His words.
He both heareth and knoweth.
-- Sura 6:115
None can change the words of God;
-- Sura 6:34
There is no changing the words of God;
that is the mighty triumph.
-- Sura 10:64
And recite what has been revealed to you of the Book of your Lord,
there is none who can alter His words;
and you shall not find any refuge besides Him.
-- Sura 18:27
If you Say this refers to a ''lawhul mahfuz''preserved tablet.
2 problems Arise with this :
1.if someone is altering God's words in Canada,and not in spain,his words are STILL being altered,even if they are Kept perfectly in spain.
2.The qu'ran tells Us(the Jews)to judge by the torah,how can we Judge by something we don''t Have?
Q. 5:68
{Say: 'People of the Book, you do not stand on anything, until ye perform the Torah and the Gospel, and what was sent down toyou from your Lord.' And what has been sent down to thee from thy Lord will surely increase many of them in insolence and unbelief; so grieve not for the people of the unbelievers.}
3.The ''fully Detailed''ánd ''clear''Quran as it Describes itself,has Failed to clarify what it actually means,and has given a false verse.
4.The qu'ran challenges the Pagans to Produce a book like the torah
Or do they say: He has forged it? Say: Then bring a chapter like this (mithlihi) and invite whom you can besides Allah, if you are truthful. S. 10:38
Or, do they say: He has forged it. Say: Then bring ten forged chapters like it (mithlihi) and call upon whom you can besides Allah, if you are truthful. S. 11:13
Say: If men and jinn should combine together to bring the like of this Quran (bimithlihi hatha al-Qurani), they could not bring the like of it, though some of them were aiders of others. S. 17:88
Now that the Truth has come to them from Us, they are saying: "Why is he (Muhammad) not given the like of what was given to Musa?" Have they not rejected that which was given to Musa before? They claim: "These (Torah and Qur'an) are the two works of sorcery complementing each other!" And they say: "We believe in neither." Ask them: "Bring a Book from Allah which is a better guide THAN THESE TWO, I will follow it, if what you say be true!" S. 28:48-49 Malik
Then, We gave Musa the Book, to complete (Our favor) upon those who would do right> (6:154) ...
<And this is a blessed Book which We have sent down, so follow it and have Taqwa of Allah, that you may receive mercy> (6:155).
if the Torah has been corrupted(Khas ve Shalom)then we could not fulfill this verse,so allah According to muslims gives commands wich are not Tryable!
In this Article i wish to Explain The Reason Both Jesus and Muhammad have been Rejected among the People of Israel in the Last 1400 Years.I do not Wish to Offend Anyone,but To Make cleary.
First ,the Torah Standard Between True Prophet and False Prophet is As follows:
Deuteronomy 13 1 If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them," 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is TESTING you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his COMMANDMENTS and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. That prophet or dreamer tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.
Thus the Distiguisher between a True and False Prophet is his Adherence to the 613 Miswoth.
2 Kings 23
3 The king stood by the pillar and RENEWED the covenant in the presence of the LORD—to follow the LORD and keep his COMMANDS, STATUTES and DECREES with all his heart and all his soul, thus confirming the words of the covenant written in this book. Then all the people pledged themselves to the covenant.
4 The king ordered Hilkiah the high priest, the priests next in rank and the doorkeepers to remove from the temple of the LORD all the articles made for Baal and Asherah and all the starry hosts. He burned them outside Jerusalem in the fields of the Kidron Valley and took the ashes to Bethel. 5 He did away with the idolatrous priests appointed by the kings of Judah to burn incense on the high places of the towns of Judah and on those around Jerusalem—those who burned incense to Baal, to the sun and moon, to the constellations and to all the starry hosts. 6 He took the Asherah pole from the temple of the LORD to the Kidron Valley outside Jerusalem and burned it there. He ground it to powder and scattered the dust over the graves of the common people. 7 He also tore down the quarters of the male shrine prostitutes that were in the temple of the LORD, the quarters where women did weaving for Asherah.
8 Josiah brought all the priests from the towns of Judah and desecrated the high places, from Geba to Beersheba, where the priests had burned incense. He broke down the gateway at the entrance of the Gate of Joshua, the city governor, which was on the left of the city gate. 9 Although the priests of the high places did not serve at the altar of the LORD in Jerusalem, they ate unleavened bread with their fellow priests.
10 He desecrated Topheth, which was in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, so no one could use it to sacrifice their son or daughter in the fire to Molek. 11 He removed from the entrance to the temple of the LORD the horses that the kings of Judah had dedicated to the sun. They were in the court[a] near the room of an official named Nathan-Melek. Josiah then burned the chariots dedicated to the sun.
12 He pulled down the altars the kings of Judah had erected on the roof near the upper room of Ahaz, and the altars Manasseh had built in the two courts of the temple of the LORD. He removed them from there, smashed them to pieces and threw the rubble into the Kidron Valley. 13 The king also desecrated the high places that were east of Jerusalem on the south of the Hill of Corruption—the ones Solomon king of Israel had built for Ashtoreth the vile goddess of the Sidonians, for Chemosh the vile god of Moab, and for Molek the detestable god of the people of Ammon. 14 Josiah smashed the sacred stones and cut down the Asherah poles and covered the sites with human bones.
15 Even the altar at Bethel, the high place made by Jeroboam son of Nebat, who had caused Israel to sin—even that altar and high place he demolished. He burned the high place and ground it to powder, and burned the Asherah pole also. 16 Then Josiah looked around, and when he saw the tombs that were there on the hillside, he had the bones removed from them and burned on the altar to defile it, in accordance with the word of the LORD proclaimed by the man of God who foretold these things.
17 The king asked, "What is that tombstone I see?"
The people of the city said, "It marks the tomb of the man of God who came from Judah and pronounced against the altar of Bethel the very things you have done to it."
18 "Leave it alone," he said. "Don't let anyone disturb his bones." So they spared his bones and those of the prophet who had come from Samaria.
19 Just as he had done at Bethel, Josiah removed all the shrines at the high places that the kings of Israel had built in the towns of Samaria and that had aroused the LORD's anger. 20 Josiah slaughtered all the priests of those high places on the altars and burned human bones on them. Then he went back to Jerusalem.
21 The king gave this order to all the people: "Celebrate the Passover to the LORD your God, as it is written in this Book of the Covenant." 22 Neither in the days of the judges who led Israel nor in the days of the kings of Israel and the kings of Judah had any such Passover been observed. 23 But in the eighteenth year of King Josiah, this Passover was celebrated to the LORD in Jerusalem.
24 Furthermore, Josiah got rid of the mediums and spiritists, the household gods, the idols and all the other detestable things seen in Judah and Jerusalem. This he did to fulfill the requirements of the law written in the book that Hilkiah the priest had discovered in the temple of the LORD. 25 Neither before nor after Josiah was there a king like him who turned to the LORD as he did—with all his heart and with all his soul and with all his strength, in accordance with all the LAW OF MOSES.
Thus as We See the Law of Moses Was Being Practiced after the Time of solomon.
Deuteronomy 30
1 When all these blessings and curses I have set before you come on you and you take them to heart wherever the LORD your God disperses you among the nations, 2 and when you and your children return to the LORD your God and obey him with all your heart and with all your soul according to everything I command you today,
3 then the LORD your God will restore your fortunes[a] and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where he scattered you.
4 Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the LORD your God will gather you and bring you back.
5 He will bring you to the land that belonged to your ancestors, and you will take possession of it. He will make you more prosperous and numerous than your ancestors. 6 The LORD your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you may love him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live.
7 The LORD your God will put all these curses on your enemies who hate and persecute you. 8 You will AGAIN obey the LORD and follow all his commands I am giving you TODAY.
9 Then the LORD your God will make you most prosperous in all the work of your hands and in the fruit of your womb, the young of your livestock and the crops of your land. The LORD will AGAIN delight in you and make you prosperous, just as he delighted in your ancestors,
10 if you obey the LORD your God and keep his commands and decrees that are written in THIS Torah and turn to the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
11 Now what I am commanding you today is *******NOT ****** too difficult for you or beyond your reach. 12 It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask, "Who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?" 13 ****Nor is it beyond the sea,****** so that you have to ask, "Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?" 14 No, the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart so you may obey it.
(Didn't Paul say the law is a Burden noone can keep?isn't this what Christians always Say?)
15 See, I set before you today life and prosperity, death and destruction. 16 For I command you today to love the LORD your God, to walk in obedience to him, and to ******keep his commands, decrees and laws;***** then you will live and increase, and the LORD your God will bless you in the land you are entering to possess.
(this shows that the purpose of the law is life,the reason god gave us israel is to practice the law)
17 But if your heart turns away and you are not obedient, and if you are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them, 18 I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess.
2 Chronicles 6
16 "Now, LORD, the God of Israel, keep for your servant David my father the promises you made to him when you said, 'You shall never fail to have a successor to sit before me on the throne of Israel, if only your descendants are careful in all they do to walk before me according to my LAW, as you have done.'
17 And now, LORD, the God of Israel, let your word that you promised your servant David come true.
****** 18 "But will God really dwell on earth with humans? The heavens, even the highest heavens, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built! *******
19 Yet, LORD my God, give attention to your servant's prayer and his plea for mercy. Hear the cry and the prayer that your servant is praying in your presence.
20 May your eyes be open toward this temple day and night, this place of which you said you would put your Name there. May you hear the prayer your servant prays toward this place. 21 Hear the supplications of your servant and of your people Israel when they pray toward this place. Hear from heaven, your dwelling place; and when you hear, forgive.
I will not carry out my fierce anger, nor will I turn and devastate Ephraim. For I am God, and not man--the Holy One among you. I will not come in wrath.
Hosea 11:9
"I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.Malachi 3:6
Psalm 102:27 But you remain the same, and your years will never end.
This is a permanent law for generations to come wherever you live: Never eat any fat or blood."Leviticus 3:17
Genesis 9:12
And God said, "This is the sign of the covenant I am making between me and you and every living creature with you, a covenant for all generations to come:
Genesis 17:7
I will establish my covenant as an EVERLASTING covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.
Exodus 31:16
The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a LASTING covenant.
Leviticus 23:31
You shall do no work at all. This is to be a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live.
(the word lasting here is u3lem wich means forever)
Numbers 15:15
The community is to have the same rules for you and for the foreigner residing among you; this is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. You and the foreigner shall be the same before the LORD:
(this refers to Converts)
Genesis 17:8
The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God."
(so much for Palestine being for the muslims)
Genesis 17:19
Then God said, "Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him.
1 Chronicles 16:17
He confirmed it to Jacob as a decree, to Israel as an everlasting covenant:
Psalm 119:142
Your righteousness is everlasting and your law is true.
Isaiah 24:5
The earth is defiled by its people; they have disobeyed the laws, violated the statutes and broken the everlasting covenant.
Isaiah 45:17
But Israel will be saved by the LORD with an everlasting salvation; you will never be put to shame or disgraced, to ages everlasting.
Isaiah 55:3
Give ear and come to me; listen, that you may live. I will make an everlasting covenant with you, my faithful love promised to David.
(i.e the Messiah wich muslims Believe is the Dajjal!)
Isaiah 60:15
"Although you have been forsaken and hated, with no one traveling through, I will make you the everlasting pride and the joy of all generations.
Isaiah 61:8
"For I, the LORD, love justice; I hate robbery and wrongdoing. In my faithfulness I will reward my people and make an everlasting covenant with them.
Jeremiah 32:40
I will make an everlasting covenant with them: I will never stop doing good to them, and I will inspire them to fear me, so that they will never turn away from me.
Jeremiah 50:5
They will ask the way to Zion and turn their faces toward it. They will come and bind themselves to the LORD in an everlasting covenant that will not be forgotten.
Ezekiel 16:60
Yet I will remember the covenant I made with you in the days of your youth, and I will establish an everlasting covenant with you.
Ezekiel 37:26
I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant. I will establish them and increase their numbers, and I will put my sanctuary among them forever.
Psalm 111:5-9
"He has given food to those who revere Him;
He will remember His covenant FOREVER
He has made known to His people the power of His works,
In giving them the heritage of the nations.
The works of His hands are true and just;
All His precepts are certain.
They are upheld forever and ever;
They are carried out in truth and uprightness.
He has sent deliverance to His people;
He has ordained His covenant FOREVER
Holy and awesome is His name."
Psalm 105:8-11, 45
He has remembered His covenant FOREVER
The word which He ordered to a thousand generations,
The covenant that He made with Abraham,
And His oath to Isaac.
Then He confirmed it to Jacob as a statute,
To Israel as a covenant EVELASTING
Saying, "To you I shall give the land of Canaan,
As the portion of your inheritance,"
....In order that they shall keep His statutes and observe His laws,
Praise the L-RD!
Psalm 119:44 "So I will keep Your Torah - continually forever and ever."
Psalm 119:111-112 "I have inherited Your testimonies forever, for they are the joy of my heart. For I have inclined my heart to do Your statutes forever, unto the end."
Psalm 119:144 "Your testimonies are forever right; Grant me understanding that I may live."
Psalm 119:152 "From long ago I have known your testimonies, that You have established them forever."
Leviticus 3:17 "It is a law forever throughout your generations in all your dwelling places.."
Leviticus 6:18 "it is a permanent law throughout all your generations.."
Leviticus 6:22 "by an eternal ordinance it shall be entirely offered.."
Leviticus 7:36 "it is an eternal law for their generations."
Leviticus 16:34 "Now this is to you an everlasting ordinance.."
Leviticus 16:29 "This is to you a permanent law.."
Leviticus 17:7 "This is to them for an everlasting law in all their generations.."
Leviticus 23:14 "is to you a perpetual ordinance in all your dwelling places throughout your generations.."
Numbers 15:15 "As for the community (of Israel), there shall be one law for you and for the one who converted and joined with you; An eternal Law throughout your generations, as you are, so shall the convert be before the ALL-TRANSCENDENT One."
Numbers 19:21 "So it is a law forever for them.."
A prophet or teacher (or preacher) who comes along and claims to believe that the 'Old Testament' is the Word of G-d, but at the same time believes that the 'Old Testament' is no longer applicable or valid, declares that the Almighty is a liar for saying all these statements listed here. In addition to this, anyone who teaches that the 'Old Testament' is abolished and is no longer applicable fulfills Deuteronomy 13:5 "But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams must be put to death, because he has instructed rebellion against the L-RD your G-d.....seducing you from the way in which the L-RD your G-d commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the wickedness from among you."
When this verse says 'the way in which the L-rd' commanded them to walk, it is referring to the Law of Moses, the Torah, as it plainly continues on to say:
"...heed the voice of the L-RD your Gd, by keeping all His commandments which I am commanding you today, and doing what is right in the sight of the L-RD your G-d." - Deuteronomy 13:18
"...the hidden things belong to the L-RD our G-d, but that which is revealed belongs to us and our sons forever to do all the words of this Torah."
- Deuteronomy 29:29
The Torah of the L-RD is whole, restoring the soul; The testimony of the L-RD is trustworthy, making the simple wise." - Psalm 19:7
"What all that I am commanding you, you shall not add to this Word, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the ALL-TRANSCENDENT your Exceedingly Powerful Authority, which I command you." - Deuteronomy 4:2
..that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he spoke bringing rebellion against the ALL-TRANSCENDENT your Exceedingly Powerful Authority, He Who brought you from the Land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of slavery, (this false prophet has come) to seduce you to go away from the path in which the ALL-TRANSCENDENT your Exceedingly Powerful Authority commanded you to walk..." - Deuteronomy 13:5
The path that He commanded them to walk on is this same Torah (Law of Moses), as is clear from the context of this verse,
"...to walk after the ALL-TRANSCENDENT One, and to keep His commandments and His testimonies and His statues with all the heart and all the soul, to carry out the words of this covenant that were written in this Book,...according to all the Law of Moses." - II Kings 23:3,25
As is written, to walk contrary to THIS path is "to rebel against the ALL-TRANSCENDENT One." Therefore, ANYONE who teaches others to walk contrary to this Law of Moses is a false prophet worthy of the death penalty according to Deuteronomy 13:5.
The last book of the prophets, the Book of Malachi, ENDS with an admonition to remember the Torah (Law of Moses) before the "great and awesome day of the L-RD." Malachi 3:22 says,
"Remember the Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded him at Horeb, for all Israel - its decrees and statutes."
Thus as we can see from the Precise words of Hashem,his torahot and miswoth are Everlastingad can e changed by noone.
Ask Yourself Did jesus and His followers,and muhammad obey the torah or make their own laws?
To Those claiming the torah is corrupted(even though the Quran and hadith say that nowhere),Read Your own Verses:
The words of the Lord are perfect in truth and justice;
there is NONE who can change His words.
He both heareth and knoweth.
-- Sura 6:115
None can change the words of God;
-- Sura 6:34
There is no changing the words of God;
that is the mighty triumph.
-- Sura 10:64
And recite what has been revealed to you of the Book of your Lord,
there is none who can alter His words;
and you shall not find any refuge besides Him.
-- Sura 18:27
If you Say this refers to a ''lawhul mahfuz''preserved tablet.
2 problems Arise with this :
1.if someone is altering God's words in Canada,and not in spain,his words are STILL being altered,even if they are Kept perfectly in spain.
2.The qu'ran tells Us(the Jews)to judge by the torah,how can we Judge by something we don''t Have?
Q. 5:68
{Say: 'People of the Book, you do not stand on anything, until ye perform the Torah and the Gospel, and what was sent down toyou from your Lord.' And what has been sent down to thee from thy Lord will surely increase many of them in insolence and unbelief; so grieve not for the people of the unbelievers.}
3.The ''fully Detailed''ánd ''clear''Quran as it Describes itself,has Failed to clarify what it actually means,and has given a false verse.
4.The qu'ran challenges the Pagans to Produce a book like the torah
Or do they say: He has forged it? Say: Then bring a chapter like this (mithlihi) and invite whom you can besides Allah, if you are truthful. S. 10:38
Or, do they say: He has forged it. Say: Then bring ten forged chapters like it (mithlihi) and call upon whom you can besides Allah, if you are truthful. S. 11:13
Say: If men and jinn should combine together to bring the like of this Quran (bimithlihi hatha al-Qurani), they could not bring the like of it, though some of them were aiders of others. S. 17:88
Now that the Truth has come to them from Us, they are saying: "Why is he (Muhammad) not given the like of what was given to Musa?" Have they not rejected that which was given to Musa before? They claim: "These (Torah and Qur'an) are the two works of sorcery complementing each other!" And they say: "We believe in neither." Ask them: "Bring a Book from Allah which is a better guide THAN THESE TWO, I will follow it, if what you say be true!" S. 28:48-49 Malik
Then, We gave Musa the Book, to complete (Our favor) upon those who would do right> (6:154) ...
<And this is a blessed Book which We have sent down, so follow it and have Taqwa of Allah, that you may receive mercy> (6:155).
if the Torah has been corrupted(Khas ve Shalom)then we could not fulfill this verse,so allah According to muslims gives commands wich are not Tryable!
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Judaism bought usury, pornography and LGBTQ to western nations. how can this be a godly religion?
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that's a jesuit lie,the CIA by order of the jesuits created jewish conspiracy theories in the 80s and 90s and declassified documents show this.Rome controls the world.the Pharoanic families that keep all their money in Swiss banks and created flavian christianity.
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this is another level of schizo that i aspire to reach.
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there was a Subreddit dedicated to this on saidit(free speech forum)but saidit is nerfed unfortunately.
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its not schizo,its just you've been fed jesuit propoganda
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The Khazar Theory Refuted&Examined.
other articles on this blog on this topic:
yahadot.blogspot.com
Khazars became Christian source: The World of the Khazars (Book)
ONLY 500 Upper Class Khazars became Jewish source: Khazar Studies Passim by Dunlop.
Myth 1:khazars were turkic.
khazars were Actually a Caucasian race.Their king Joseph, in answer to the inquiry of Hasdai Ibn Shaprut of Cordova (c. 958), stated that his people sprang from Thogarmah, grandson of Japhet, and the supposed ancestor of the other peoples of the Caucasus. The Arab geographers who knew the Khazars best connect them either with the Georgians (Ibn Athir) or with the Armenians (Dimishqi, ed. Mehren, p. 263);
whilst Ahmad ibn Fadlan, who passed through Khazaria on a mission from the caliph Moqtadir , positively asserts that the Khazar tongue differed not only from the Turkish, but from that of the bordering nations, which were Ugrian.
There were Khazars and Kara (black) Khazars. The Khazars were fair-skinned, black-haired and of a remarkable beauty and stature; their women indeed were sought as wives equally at Byzantium and Bagdad; while the Kara Khazars were ugly, short, and were Ugrian.
the only thing wich led scholars to believe they were turkic,was the possible similarity between their city names and Hungarian.however their land was occuppied by huns,as was most of europe,at some point.
the Arabs called everyone beyond the black sea''Turks'',as did the Greeks Call everyone beyond the black sea''Scythians''.
however in all Accounts we know the khazars were a Caucasoid race.
Myth 2:
khazars were jews.
According to Ibn Fadlan, Ibn Dastah, and others, ONLY THE KING AND THE GRANDEES WERE FOLLOWERS OF JUDAISM. The rest of the Khazars were Christians, Mohammedans, and heathens; and THE JEWS WERE IN A GREAT MINORITY." (Jewish Encyclopedia)
In this city (Khazaran-Itil) are Muslims, Christians, Jews and pagans. The Jews are the king, his attendants and the Khazars of his kind. (footnote: 'i.e., presumably THE RULING TRIBE of ‘White Khazars’).'" (Koestler, pp. 15,60)
Besides Judaism, other religions probably practiced in areas ruled by the Khazars included Greek Orthodox, Nestorian, and Monophysite Christianity, Zoroastrianism as well as Norse, Finnic, and Slavic cults. The Khazar government tolerated a wide array of religious practices within the Khaganate. Many Khazars reportedly were converts to Christianity and Islam.
A Greek Orthodox bishop was resident at Atil and was subject to the authority of the Metropolitan of Doros. The "apostle of the Slavs", Saint Cyril, is said to have attempted the conversion of Khazars without enduring results.
-Al-Masu'di The Book of Golden Meadows, c. 940 CE
Some of the Sources actually Difer as to wether only the Royal family became jewish .we have a obscure statement that all khazars were jews.by a arab scholar who never visited khazaria.
myth 3.khazars were jews and moved to europe.
Al Istrakhi, Massudi witnessed Khazars converting to Islam.
in 985 a Group of turkish Attacked the khazar land,and the khazars appealed to the people of khorezm,but the latter denied Assistance saying they were infidels(al-kuffar),but if they converted to islam they would help.they converted to islam except their king,then the people of khorezm helped them and forced the turks to let them free,and after it their king also became muslim''(Ibn al Athir)
the References to khazars after the sack of Attil are mistakes.for Example. many of thesse references are using "Khazars" in a general sense (the Arabs, for example, called all steppe people "Turks"; the Romans/Byzantines called them all "Scythians")
At least one 12th-century Byzantine source refers to tribes practicing Mosaic law and living in the Balkans; see Khalyzians. The connection between this group and the Khazars is rejected by most modern Khazar scholars.
On the linguistic side, well known Turcologist, A.N.Poliak, regards the Karaite Jews in Poland and the Crimea as the principal present-day representatives of the ancient Khazars,
Some modern Crimean Karaites seek to distance themselves from being identified as Jews, emphasizing what they view as their Turkic heritage and claiming that they are Turkic practitioners of a "Mosaic religion" separate and distinct from Judaism.
Ashkenazim however practice Talmudic Juda-ism...
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Myth 4,jews are khazar.
Khazaria fell in around the year 1090 AD; the arrival of Jews in Eastern Europe and the area that was once Khazaria did not take place until around 1492.
The first Jews to reach Germany were merchants who went there in the wake of the Roman legions, and settled in the Roman-founded Rhine towns. The earliest detailed record of a Jewish community in Germany, referring to Cologne, is found in imperial decrees issued in 321 and 331 C.E. (2)
There were Jews in Russia from the first centuries C.E., although numbers there were small for several centuries. However, Jews emigrated to the Caucasus and beyond, and formed countless communities, at the time of the wars between the Muslims and Persians during the 7th century.(3)
Jews arrived in Pannonia (Yugoslavia) and Romania in the Third Century
In 1500, the number of Jews in the country is estimated to have been only 50,000 souls; a century and a half later, it had risen to half a million-Cecil Roth (1970). A History of the Jews
There were however by most scholarly Accounts 8 million khazars!
With the onset of the Crusades, and the expulsions from England (1290), France (1394), and parts of Germany (15th century), Jewish migration pushed eastward into Poland, Lithuania, and Russia.
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The first Jews arrived in the territory of modern Poland in the 10th century. By travelling along the trade routes leading eastwards to Kiev and Bukhara, Jewish merchants (known as Radhanites) crossed the areas of Silesia. One of them, a diplomat and merchant from the Moorish town of Tortosa in Spanish Al-Andalus, known under his Arabic name of Ibrahim ibn Jakub, was the first chronicler to mention the Polish state under the rule of prince Mieszko I. The first actual mention of Jews in Polish chronicles occurs in the 11th century. It appears that Jews were then living in Gniezno, at that time the capital of the Polish kingdom of the Piast dynasty. The first permanent Jewish community is mentioned in 1085 by a Jewish scholar Jehuda ha-Kohen in the city of Przemyśl.
The first extensive Jewish emigration from Western Europe to Poland occurred at the time of the First Crusade in 1098. Under Boleslaus III (1102–1139), the Jews, encouraged by the tolerant regime of this ruler, settled throughout Poland, including over the border in Lithuanian territory as far as Kiev. Boleslaus III for his part recognized the utility of the Jews in the development of the commercial interests of his country. The Jews came to form the backbone of the Polish economy and the coins minted by Mieszko III even bear Hebraic markings.
(Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...Early_history_to_Golden_Age:_966.E2.80.931572)
pale of settlement
another problem with the khazar theory is that jews were only allowed to live in certain Areas of the Russian Empire:
Yiddish
Yiddish is a Germanic Language with no turkic Influence,all jews from Eastern Europe speak Yiddish.this proves their Origin in Germany not Khazaria.
the Crimean karaites,however are the main descendants of the khazars who remained jewish.
Israel is majority sephardic
ethnic Makeup of Jewish Population of Israel[citation needed] TOTAL 5,818,000 100% Mizrahi Jews and Sephardic Jews 2,921,000 50.2% Morocco 800,000 15.2% Iraq 404,000 7.7% Yemen 295,000 4.9% Iran 236,000 4.0% Algeria/Tunisia 224,000 3.8% Other Asia 150,000 2.5% Turkey 147,000 2.5% Libya 136,000 2.3% Egypt 112,000 1.9%
Ashkenazi Jews 2,767,000 47.5% Russia 1,018,000 20.9% Poland 400,000 8.3% Romania 351,000 7.6% Other Europe 168,000 3.7% North America (Including 4,000 African American Black Hebrews) 165,000 2.8% Germany/Austria 160,000 2.7% Latin America 82,000 1.4% Bulgaria/Greece 97,000 1.9% Hungary 63,000 1.3% Czechoslovakia 60,000 1.2% South Africa 20,000 0.4%
So the Majority of jews in israel are Sephardic.even if all ahkenazi jews were khazars,what of the 50% Mizrahi population in the Israeli State?
where should they go back to?
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what of the white jews?why are mizrahi jews more darker then ashkenazi jews?
mizrahi jews on Average look no Different then a Ashkenazi (on Average),the Average Ashkenazi is not white,but dark haired,fair complexioned,hooked nosed,and slim headed,a group of traits not at all close to Turks or mongoloids.
the frequency of Yemenite jews to be darker can be Attributed to the fact many of them are Converts from the time of dhu al-nawas al-himyari.
arabs are darker because they are 75 % Hamite.temani jews are mostly Arabs converted to judaism.
sephardics and iraqi jews look nothing like them.
True israelite jewish family from Yemen.
Typical Syrian Aramean Family.
iraqi jews.
persian jew bahar soomekh.
Iranian jews
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why are some jews light with Brown hair or blue eyes?
repeated ecclesiastic interdictions of mixed marriages - e.g., by the Council of Toledo, 589; the Council of Rome, 743; the first and second Lateran Councils 1123 and 1139; or the edict of King Ladislav II of Hungary in 1092. That all these prohibitions were only partly effective is shown, for instance, by the report of the Hungarian Archbishop Robert von Grain to the Pope AD 1229, complaining that many Christian women are married to Jews, and that within a few years "many thousands of Christians" were lost in this way to the Church.
There is an ancient tradition, recorded by Graetz, which attributes the origin of the earliest Jewish settlements in Germany to an episode reminiscent of the rape of the Sabine women. According to this tradition, a German unit, the Vangioni who fought with the Roman legions in Palestine, "had chosen from the vast horde of Jewish prisoners the most beautiful women, had brought them back to their stations on the shores of the Rhine and the Main, and had compelled them to minister to the satisfaction of their desires. The children thus begotten of Jewish and German parents were brought up by their mothers in the Jewish faith, their fathers not troubling themselves about them. It is these children who are said to have been the founders of the first Jewish communities between Worms and Mayence.
Cossack rapist fathers:
Such violent infusion of Gentile blood into the veins of the flock of Israel has been especially frequent in Slavonic countries. One of the favourite methods of the Cossacks to wring out money from the Jews was to take a large number of prisoners, knowing well that the Jews would ransom them. That the women thus ransomed were violated by these semi-savage tribes goes without saying. In fact, the "Council of the Four Lands", at its session in the winter of 1650, had to take cognizance of the poor women and children born to them from Cossack husbands during captivity, and thus restore order in the family and social life of the Jews. Similar outrages were ... again perpetrated on Jewish women in Russia during the massacres in 1903-5.22
Conclusion:Ashkenazi jews are not khazars,maybe the Crimean karaites are khazars,but the ashkenazim are not khazars.
Yiddish is a Germanic language.Crimean khazars also are not jewish.Karaite judaism was a Egyptian Sect.
the Two should not be Confused as one.Crimean karaites are muslim.Qaraites are Egyptian.
we also have found that Khazars all became muslim.
so today the khazars would not be jewish but muslim.
we alos have a steady pattern of migrations from Germany to russia,and not the otherway around,as the khazar theory would desire.
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Khazars became Christian source: The World of the Khazars (Book)
ONLY 500 Upper Class Khazars became Jewish source: Khazar Studies Passim by Dunlop.
Myth 1:khazars were turkic.
khazars were Actually a Caucasian race.Their king Joseph, in answer to the inquiry of Hasdai Ibn Shaprut of Cordova (c. 958), stated that his people sprang from Thogarmah, grandson of Japhet, and the supposed ancestor of the other peoples of the Caucasus. The Arab geographers who knew the Khazars best connect them either with the Georgians (Ibn Athir) or with the Armenians (Dimishqi, ed. Mehren, p. 263);
whilst Ahmad ibn Fadlan, who passed through Khazaria on a mission from the caliph Moqtadir , positively asserts that the Khazar tongue differed not only from the Turkish, but from that of the bordering nations, which were Ugrian.
There were Khazars and Kara (black) Khazars. The Khazars were fair-skinned, black-haired and of a remarkable beauty and stature; their women indeed were sought as wives equally at Byzantium and Bagdad; while the Kara Khazars were ugly, short, and were Ugrian.
the only thing wich led scholars to believe they were turkic,was the possible similarity between their city names and Hungarian.however their land was occuppied by huns,as was most of europe,at some point.
the Arabs called everyone beyond the black sea''Turks'',as did the Greeks Call everyone beyond the black sea''Scythians''.
however in all Accounts we know the khazars were a Caucasoid race.
Myth 2:
khazars were jews.
According to Ibn Fadlan, Ibn Dastah, and others, ONLY THE KING AND THE GRANDEES WERE FOLLOWERS OF JUDAISM. The rest of the Khazars were Christians, Mohammedans, and heathens; and THE JEWS WERE IN A GREAT MINORITY." (Jewish Encyclopedia)
In this city (Khazaran-Itil) are Muslims, Christians, Jews and pagans. The Jews are the king, his attendants and the Khazars of his kind. (footnote: 'i.e., presumably THE RULING TRIBE of ‘White Khazars’).'" (Koestler, pp. 15,60)
Besides Judaism, other religions probably practiced in areas ruled by the Khazars included Greek Orthodox, Nestorian, and Monophysite Christianity, Zoroastrianism as well as Norse, Finnic, and Slavic cults. The Khazar government tolerated a wide array of religious practices within the Khaganate. Many Khazars reportedly were converts to Christianity and Islam.
A Greek Orthodox bishop was resident at Atil and was subject to the authority of the Metropolitan of Doros. The "apostle of the Slavs", Saint Cyril, is said to have attempted the conversion of Khazars without enduring results.
-Al-Masu'di The Book of Golden Meadows, c. 940 CE
Some of the Sources actually Difer as to wether only the Royal family became jewish .we have a obscure statement that all khazars were jews.by a arab scholar who never visited khazaria.
myth 3.khazars were jews and moved to europe.
Al Istrakhi, Massudi witnessed Khazars converting to Islam.
in 985 a Group of turkish Attacked the khazar land,and the khazars appealed to the people of khorezm,but the latter denied Assistance saying they were infidels(al-kuffar),but if they converted to islam they would help.they converted to islam except their king,then the people of khorezm helped them and forced the turks to let them free,and after it their king also became muslim''(Ibn al Athir)
the References to khazars after the sack of Attil are mistakes.for Example. many of thesse references are using "Khazars" in a general sense (the Arabs, for example, called all steppe people "Turks"; the Romans/Byzantines called them all "Scythians")
At least one 12th-century Byzantine source refers to tribes practicing Mosaic law and living in the Balkans; see Khalyzians. The connection between this group and the Khazars is rejected by most modern Khazar scholars.
On the linguistic side, well known Turcologist, A.N.Poliak, regards the Karaite Jews in Poland and the Crimea as the principal present-day representatives of the ancient Khazars,
Some modern Crimean Karaites seek to distance themselves from being identified as Jews, emphasizing what they view as their Turkic heritage and claiming that they are Turkic practitioners of a "Mosaic religion" separate and distinct from Judaism.
Ashkenazim however practice Talmudic Juda-ism...
.
Myth 4,jews are khazar.
Khazaria fell in around the year 1090 AD; the arrival of Jews in Eastern Europe and the area that was once Khazaria did not take place until around 1492.
The first Jews to reach Germany were merchants who went there in the wake of the Roman legions, and settled in the Roman-founded Rhine towns. The earliest detailed record of a Jewish community in Germany, referring to Cologne, is found in imperial decrees issued in 321 and 331 C.E. (2)
There were Jews in Russia from the first centuries C.E., although numbers there were small for several centuries. However, Jews emigrated to the Caucasus and beyond, and formed countless communities, at the time of the wars between the Muslims and Persians during the 7th century.(3)
Jews arrived in Pannonia (Yugoslavia) and Romania in the Third Century
In 1500, the number of Jews in the country is estimated to have been only 50,000 souls; a century and a half later, it had risen to half a million-Cecil Roth (1970). A History of the Jews
There were however by most scholarly Accounts 8 million khazars!
With the onset of the Crusades, and the expulsions from England (1290), France (1394), and parts of Germany (15th century), Jewish migration pushed eastward into Poland, Lithuania, and Russia.
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The first Jews arrived in the territory of modern Poland in the 10th century. By travelling along the trade routes leading eastwards to Kiev and Bukhara, Jewish merchants (known as Radhanites) crossed the areas of Silesia. One of them, a diplomat and merchant from the Moorish town of Tortosa in Spanish Al-Andalus, known under his Arabic name of Ibrahim ibn Jakub, was the first chronicler to mention the Polish state under the rule of prince Mieszko I. The first actual mention of Jews in Polish chronicles occurs in the 11th century. It appears that Jews were then living in Gniezno, at that time the capital of the Polish kingdom of the Piast dynasty. The first permanent Jewish community is mentioned in 1085 by a Jewish scholar Jehuda ha-Kohen in the city of Przemyśl.
The first extensive Jewish emigration from Western Europe to Poland occurred at the time of the First Crusade in 1098. Under Boleslaus III (1102–1139), the Jews, encouraged by the tolerant regime of this ruler, settled throughout Poland, including over the border in Lithuanian territory as far as Kiev. Boleslaus III for his part recognized the utility of the Jews in the development of the commercial interests of his country. The Jews came to form the backbone of the Polish economy and the coins minted by Mieszko III even bear Hebraic markings.
(Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...Early_history_to_Golden_Age:_966.E2.80.931572)
pale of settlement
another problem with the khazar theory is that jews were only allowed to live in certain Areas of the Russian Empire:
Yiddish
Yiddish is a Germanic Language with no turkic Influence,all jews from Eastern Europe speak Yiddish.this proves their Origin in Germany not Khazaria.
the Crimean karaites,however are the main descendants of the khazars who remained jewish.
Israel is majority sephardic
ethnic Makeup of Jewish Population of Israel[citation needed] TOTAL 5,818,000 100% Mizrahi Jews and Sephardic Jews 2,921,000 50.2% Morocco 800,000 15.2% Iraq 404,000 7.7% Yemen 295,000 4.9% Iran 236,000 4.0% Algeria/Tunisia 224,000 3.8% Other Asia 150,000 2.5% Turkey 147,000 2.5% Libya 136,000 2.3% Egypt 112,000 1.9%
Ashkenazi Jews 2,767,000 47.5% Russia 1,018,000 20.9% Poland 400,000 8.3% Romania 351,000 7.6% Other Europe 168,000 3.7% North America (Including 4,000 African American Black Hebrews) 165,000 2.8% Germany/Austria 160,000 2.7% Latin America 82,000 1.4% Bulgaria/Greece 97,000 1.9% Hungary 63,000 1.3% Czechoslovakia 60,000 1.2% South Africa 20,000 0.4%
So the Majority of jews in israel are Sephardic.even if all ahkenazi jews were khazars,what of the 50% Mizrahi population in the Israeli State?
where should they go back to?
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what of the white jews?why are mizrahi jews more darker then ashkenazi jews?
mizrahi jews on Average look no Different then a Ashkenazi (on Average),the Average Ashkenazi is not white,but dark haired,fair complexioned,hooked nosed,and slim headed,a group of traits not at all close to Turks or mongoloids.
the frequency of Yemenite jews to be darker can be Attributed to the fact many of them are Converts from the time of dhu al-nawas al-himyari.
arabs are darker because they are 75 % Hamite.temani jews are mostly Arabs converted to judaism.
sephardics and iraqi jews look nothing like them.
True israelite jewish family from Yemen.
Typical Syrian Aramean Family.
iraqi jews.
persian jew bahar soomekh.
Iranian jews
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why are some jews light with Brown hair or blue eyes?
repeated ecclesiastic interdictions of mixed marriages - e.g., by the Council of Toledo, 589; the Council of Rome, 743; the first and second Lateran Councils 1123 and 1139; or the edict of King Ladislav II of Hungary in 1092. That all these prohibitions were only partly effective is shown, for instance, by the report of the Hungarian Archbishop Robert von Grain to the Pope AD 1229, complaining that many Christian women are married to Jews, and that within a few years "many thousands of Christians" were lost in this way to the Church.
There is an ancient tradition, recorded by Graetz, which attributes the origin of the earliest Jewish settlements in Germany to an episode reminiscent of the rape of the Sabine women. According to this tradition, a German unit, the Vangioni who fought with the Roman legions in Palestine, "had chosen from the vast horde of Jewish prisoners the most beautiful women, had brought them back to their stations on the shores of the Rhine and the Main, and had compelled them to minister to the satisfaction of their desires. The children thus begotten of Jewish and German parents were brought up by their mothers in the Jewish faith, their fathers not troubling themselves about them. It is these children who are said to have been the founders of the first Jewish communities between Worms and Mayence.
Cossack rapist fathers:
Such violent infusion of Gentile blood into the veins of the flock of Israel has been especially frequent in Slavonic countries. One of the favourite methods of the Cossacks to wring out money from the Jews was to take a large number of prisoners, knowing well that the Jews would ransom them. That the women thus ransomed were violated by these semi-savage tribes goes without saying. In fact, the "Council of the Four Lands", at its session in the winter of 1650, had to take cognizance of the poor women and children born to them from Cossack husbands during captivity, and thus restore order in the family and social life of the Jews. Similar outrages were ... again perpetrated on Jewish women in Russia during the massacres in 1903-5.22
Conclusion:Ashkenazi jews are not khazars,maybe the Crimean karaites are khazars,but the ashkenazim are not khazars.
Yiddish is a Germanic language.Crimean khazars also are not jewish.Karaite judaism was a Egyptian Sect.
the Two should not be Confused as one.Crimean karaites are muslim.Qaraites are Egyptian.
we also have found that Khazars all became muslim.
so today the khazars would not be jewish but muslim.
we alos have a steady pattern of migrations from Germany to russia,and not the otherway around,as the khazar theory would desire.
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Wa ma Kafaru sulayman!but Balaam did!
Muslim Arguments go something Like This:
In your Distorted Books you Say all kinds of things about the prophets.Because our quran doesn't mention the sins of Prophets,that means the qu'ran is true!
a great Criticism of the quran itself is that of our Dissassociation From Shlomo Ha Melech.
وَلَمَّا جَآءَهُمۡ رَسُولٌ۬ مِّنۡ عِندِ ٱللَّهِ مُصَدِّقٌ۬ لِّمَا مَعَهُمۡ نَبَذَ فَرِيقٌ۬ مِّنَ ٱلَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ ٱلۡكِتَـٰبَ ڪِتَـٰبَ ٱللَّهِ وَرَآءَ ظُهُورِهِمۡ كَأَنَّهُمۡ لَا يَعۡلَمُونَ (١٠١) وَٱتَّبَعُواْ مَا تَتۡلُواْ ٱلشَّيَـٰطِينُ عَلَىٰ مُلۡكِ سُلَيۡمَـٰنَۖ وَمَا ڪَفَرَ سُلَيۡمَـٰنُ وَلَـٰكِنَّ ٱلشَّيَـٰطِينَ كَفَرُواْ يُعَلِّمُونَ ٱلنَّاسَ ٱلسِّحۡرَ وَمَآ أُنزِلَ عَلَى ٱلۡمَلَڪَيۡنِ بِبَابِلَ هَـٰرُوتَ وَمَـٰرُوتَۚ وَمَا يُعَلِّمَانِ مِنۡ أَحَدٍ حَتَّىٰ يَقُولَآ إِنَّمَا نَحۡنُ فِتۡنَةٌ۬ فَلَا تَكۡفُرۡۖ فَيَتَعَلَّمُونَ مِنۡهُمَا مَا يُفَرِّقُونَ بِهِۦ بَيۡنَ ٱلۡمَرۡءِ وَزَوۡجِهِۦۚ وَمَا هُم بِضَآرِّينَ بِهِۦ مِنۡ أَحَدٍ إِلَّا بِإِذۡنِ ٱللَّهِۚ وَيَتَعَلَّمُونَ مَا يَضُرُّهُمۡ وَلَا يَنفَعُهُمۡۚ وَلَقَدۡ عَلِمُواْ لَمَنِ ٱشۡتَرَٮٰهُ مَا لَهُ ۥ فِى ٱلۡأَخِرَةِ مِنۡ خَلَـٰقٍ۬ۚ وَلَبِئۡسَ مَا شَرَوۡاْ بِهِۦۤ أَنفُسَهُمۡۚ لَوۡ ڪَانُواْ يَعۡلَمُونَ (١٠٢)
And when there cometh unto them a messenger from Allah, confirming that which they possess, a party of those who have received the Scripture fling the Scripture of Allah behind their backs as if they knew not, (101) And follow that which the devils falsely related against the kingdom of Solomon. Solomon disbelieved not; but the devils disbelieved, teaching mankind magic and that which was revealed to the two angels in Babel, Harut and Marut. Nor did they (the two angels) teach it to anyone till they had said: We are only a temptation, therefore disbelieve not (in the guidance of Allah). And from these two (angles) people learn that by which they cause division between man and wife; but they injure thereby no-one save by Allah's leave. And they learn that which harmeth them and profiteth them not. And surely they do know that he who trafficketh therein will have no (happy) portion in the Hereafter; and surely evil is the price for which they sell their souls, if they but knew. (102)
1.Babylonian Rabbis Were Against Kabbalah.it was the jerusalem Talmud wich had a lax stance on mysticism.the babylonian Talmud was opposed to mysticism.
2.how could the devils teach that wich was given to harut and marut in babel,to the people of solomon,when this happened years earlier!
3.harut and marut are pagan armenian gods.
4.kabbalah is said to come from Abraham.
وَكَذَٲلِكَ نُرِىٓ إِبۡرَٲهِيمَ مَلَكُوتَ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٲتِ وَٱلۡأَرۡضِ وَلِيَكُونَ مِنَ ٱلۡمُوقِنِينَ (٧٥)
Thus did We show Abraham the kingdom of the heavens and the earth that he might be of those possessing certainty
6 :75)
Ibrahim had special Knowledge.
NOW.
Why is it so hard to believe solomon disbelieved.
وَٱتْلُ عَلَيْهِمْ نَبَأَ ٱلَّذِىٓ ءَاتَيْنَٰهُ ءَايَٰتِنَا فَٱنسَلَخَ مِنْهَا فَأَتْبَعَهُ ٱلشَّيْطَٰنُ فَكَانَ مِنَ ٱلْغَاوِينَ
Relate to them the story of the man to whom We sent Our signs, but he passed them by: so Satan followed him up, and he went astray.
- The Holy Quran (Yusuf Ali)
وَلَوْ شِئْنَا لَرَفَعْنَٰهُ بِهَا وَلَٰكِنَّهُۥٓ أَخْلَدَ إِلَى ٱلْأَرْضِ وَٱتَّبَعَ هَوَىٰهُ ۚ فَمَثَلُهُۥ كَمَثَلِ ٱلْكَلْبِ إِن تَحْمِلْ عَلَيْهِ يَلْهَثْ أَوْ تَتْرُكْهُ يَلْهَث ۚ ذَّٰلِكَ مَثَلُ ٱلْقَوْمِ ٱلَّذِينَ كَذَّبُوا۟ بِـَٔايَٰتِنَا ۚ فَٱقْصُصِ ٱلْقَصَصَ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ
If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.
- The Holy Quran (Yusuf Ali)
(7:175 to 176)
The Muslim commentators explain that Balaam was a Canaanite who had been given knowledge of some of the books of God. His people asked him to curse Moses (Musa) and those who were with him, but he said, "How can I curse one who has angels with him?" They continued to press him, however, until he cursed the Israelites, and, as a consequence, they remained forty years in the Wilderness of the Wanderings. Then, when he had cursed Moses, his tongue came out and fell upon his breast, and he began to pant like a dog.
The story as told by Tabari is somewhat more Biblical. Balaam had the knowledge of the Most Sacred Name of God, and whatever he asked of God was granted to him. The story of Balaam and the ass, then follows at length. When it came to the actual cursing, God "turned his tongue" so that the cursing fell upon his own people and the blessing upon Israel.
According to the torah He was a Prophet Who Went Astray.
So why is it Impossible for solomon to go Astray!
anyway,the Hadith says things about the muslim prophet,wich i am Ashamed to Repeat.
Muslim (8:3309) - Muhammad consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was only nine. (See also Bukhari 58:234 and many other places). No where in the reliable Hadith or Sira is there any other age given.
Bukhari (62:18) - Aisha's father, Abu Bakr, wasn't on board at first, but Muhammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible. This is similar to the way that present-day cult leaders manipulate their followers into similar concessions.
Muslim (8:3311) - The girl took her dolls with her to Muhammad's house (something to play with when the "prophet" was not having sex with her).
Bukhari (6:298) - Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and fondle her.
Muslim (8:3460) - "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you could sport with her and she sport with you, or you could amuse with her and she could amuse with you?"Muhammad posed this question to one of his followers who had married an "older woman" instead of opting to fondle a child.
Bukhari (4:232) - Muhammad's wives would wash semen stains out of his clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to the mosque for prayers. Between copulation and prayer, it's a wonder he found the time to slay pagans.
Bukhari (6:300) - Muhammad's wives had to be available for the prophet's fondling even when they were having their menstrual period.
Bukhari (93:639) - The Prophet of Islam would recite the 'Holy Qur'an' with his head in Aisha's lap, when she was menstruating.
Bukhari (62:6) - "The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives." Muhammad also said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally - and it isn't hard to guess why.
Bukhari (5:268) - "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, 'Had the Prophet the strength for it?' Anas replied, 'We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men.' "
Bukhari (60:311) - "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires." These words were spoken by Aisha within the context of her husband having been given 'Allah's permission' to fulfill his sexual desires with a large number of women in whatever order he chooses. (It has been suggested that Aisha may have been speaking somewhat wryly).
Muslim (8:3424) - One of several narrations in which a leering Muhammad orders a clearly startled woman to suckle a grown man with her breast so that he will become "unlawful" to her - meaning that they can live under the same roof together.
Koran 78:31
As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high- bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.
Koran 37:40-48
...They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches.
Koran 44:51-55
...Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris. (beautiful virgins)
Koran 52:24
Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.
Koran 56:17
Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.
Koran 76:19
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.
Koran 52:17-20
...They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris (virgins) we shall wed them...
Koran 55:56-57
In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before.Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"
Koran 55:57-58
Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"
Koran 56:7-40
...We created the houris (the beautiful women) and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand.. "
Koran 55:70-77
"In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair... Dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jin will have touched before..
So may the muslims Be consistent in Denouncing the qu´ran as they Denounce the bible!
Muslim Arguments go something Like This:
In your Distorted Books you Say all kinds of things about the prophets.Because our quran doesn't mention the sins of Prophets,that means the qu'ran is true!
a great Criticism of the quran itself is that of our Dissassociation From Shlomo Ha Melech.
وَلَمَّا جَآءَهُمۡ رَسُولٌ۬ مِّنۡ عِندِ ٱللَّهِ مُصَدِّقٌ۬ لِّمَا مَعَهُمۡ نَبَذَ فَرِيقٌ۬ مِّنَ ٱلَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ ٱلۡكِتَـٰبَ ڪِتَـٰبَ ٱللَّهِ وَرَآءَ ظُهُورِهِمۡ كَأَنَّهُمۡ لَا يَعۡلَمُونَ (١٠١) وَٱتَّبَعُواْ مَا تَتۡلُواْ ٱلشَّيَـٰطِينُ عَلَىٰ مُلۡكِ سُلَيۡمَـٰنَۖ وَمَا ڪَفَرَ سُلَيۡمَـٰنُ وَلَـٰكِنَّ ٱلشَّيَـٰطِينَ كَفَرُواْ يُعَلِّمُونَ ٱلنَّاسَ ٱلسِّحۡرَ وَمَآ أُنزِلَ عَلَى ٱلۡمَلَڪَيۡنِ بِبَابِلَ هَـٰرُوتَ وَمَـٰرُوتَۚ وَمَا يُعَلِّمَانِ مِنۡ أَحَدٍ حَتَّىٰ يَقُولَآ إِنَّمَا نَحۡنُ فِتۡنَةٌ۬ فَلَا تَكۡفُرۡۖ فَيَتَعَلَّمُونَ مِنۡهُمَا مَا يُفَرِّقُونَ بِهِۦ بَيۡنَ ٱلۡمَرۡءِ وَزَوۡجِهِۦۚ وَمَا هُم بِضَآرِّينَ بِهِۦ مِنۡ أَحَدٍ إِلَّا بِإِذۡنِ ٱللَّهِۚ وَيَتَعَلَّمُونَ مَا يَضُرُّهُمۡ وَلَا يَنفَعُهُمۡۚ وَلَقَدۡ عَلِمُواْ لَمَنِ ٱشۡتَرَٮٰهُ مَا لَهُ ۥ فِى ٱلۡأَخِرَةِ مِنۡ خَلَـٰقٍ۬ۚ وَلَبِئۡسَ مَا شَرَوۡاْ بِهِۦۤ أَنفُسَهُمۡۚ لَوۡ ڪَانُواْ يَعۡلَمُونَ (١٠٢)
And when there cometh unto them a messenger from Allah, confirming that which they possess, a party of those who have received the Scripture fling the Scripture of Allah behind their backs as if they knew not, (101) And follow that which the devils falsely related against the kingdom of Solomon. Solomon disbelieved not; but the devils disbelieved, teaching mankind magic and that which was revealed to the two angels in Babel, Harut and Marut. Nor did they (the two angels) teach it to anyone till they had said: We are only a temptation, therefore disbelieve not (in the guidance of Allah). And from these two (angles) people learn that by which they cause division between man and wife; but they injure thereby no-one save by Allah's leave. And they learn that which harmeth them and profiteth them not. And surely they do know that he who trafficketh therein will have no (happy) portion in the Hereafter; and surely evil is the price for which they sell their souls, if they but knew. (102)
1.Babylonian Rabbis Were Against Kabbalah.it was the jerusalem Talmud wich had a lax stance on mysticism.the babylonian Talmud was opposed to mysticism.
2.how could the devils teach that wich was given to harut and marut in babel,to the people of solomon,when this happened years earlier!
3.harut and marut are pagan armenian gods.
4.kabbalah is said to come from Abraham.
وَكَذَٲلِكَ نُرِىٓ إِبۡرَٲهِيمَ مَلَكُوتَ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٲتِ وَٱلۡأَرۡضِ وَلِيَكُونَ مِنَ ٱلۡمُوقِنِينَ (٧٥)
Thus did We show Abraham the kingdom of the heavens and the earth that he might be of those possessing certainty
6 :75)Ibrahim had special Knowledge.
NOW.
Why is it so hard to believe solomon disbelieved.
وَٱتْلُ عَلَيْهِمْ نَبَأَ ٱلَّذِىٓ ءَاتَيْنَٰهُ ءَايَٰتِنَا فَٱنسَلَخَ مِنْهَا فَأَتْبَعَهُ ٱلشَّيْطَٰنُ فَكَانَ مِنَ ٱلْغَاوِينَ
Relate to them the story of the man to whom We sent Our signs, but he passed them by: so Satan followed him up, and he went astray.
- The Holy Quran (Yusuf Ali)
وَلَوْ شِئْنَا لَرَفَعْنَٰهُ بِهَا وَلَٰكِنَّهُۥٓ أَخْلَدَ إِلَى ٱلْأَرْضِ وَٱتَّبَعَ هَوَىٰهُ ۚ فَمَثَلُهُۥ كَمَثَلِ ٱلْكَلْبِ إِن تَحْمِلْ عَلَيْهِ يَلْهَثْ أَوْ تَتْرُكْهُ يَلْهَث ۚ ذَّٰلِكَ مَثَلُ ٱلْقَوْمِ ٱلَّذِينَ كَذَّبُوا۟ بِـَٔايَٰتِنَا ۚ فَٱقْصُصِ ٱلْقَصَصَ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ
If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.
- The Holy Quran (Yusuf Ali)
(7:175 to 176)
The Muslim commentators explain that Balaam was a Canaanite who had been given knowledge of some of the books of God. His people asked him to curse Moses (Musa) and those who were with him, but he said, "How can I curse one who has angels with him?" They continued to press him, however, until he cursed the Israelites, and, as a consequence, they remained forty years in the Wilderness of the Wanderings. Then, when he had cursed Moses, his tongue came out and fell upon his breast, and he began to pant like a dog.
The story as told by Tabari is somewhat more Biblical. Balaam had the knowledge of the Most Sacred Name of God, and whatever he asked of God was granted to him. The story of Balaam and the ass, then follows at length. When it came to the actual cursing, God "turned his tongue" so that the cursing fell upon his own people and the blessing upon Israel.
According to the torah He was a Prophet Who Went Astray.
So why is it Impossible for solomon to go Astray!
anyway,the Hadith says things about the muslim prophet,wich i am Ashamed to Repeat.
Muslim (8:3309) - Muhammad consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was only nine. (See also Bukhari 58:234 and many other places). No where in the reliable Hadith or Sira is there any other age given.
Bukhari (62:18) - Aisha's father, Abu Bakr, wasn't on board at first, but Muhammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible. This is similar to the way that present-day cult leaders manipulate their followers into similar concessions.
Muslim (8:3311) - The girl took her dolls with her to Muhammad's house (something to play with when the "prophet" was not having sex with her).
Bukhari (6:298) - Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and fondle her.
Muslim (8:3460) - "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you could sport with her and she sport with you, or you could amuse with her and she could amuse with you?"Muhammad posed this question to one of his followers who had married an "older woman" instead of opting to fondle a child.
Bukhari (4:232) - Muhammad's wives would wash semen stains out of his clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to the mosque for prayers. Between copulation and prayer, it's a wonder he found the time to slay pagans.
Bukhari (6:300) - Muhammad's wives had to be available for the prophet's fondling even when they were having their menstrual period.
Bukhari (93:639) - The Prophet of Islam would recite the 'Holy Qur'an' with his head in Aisha's lap, when she was menstruating.
Bukhari (62:6) - "The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives." Muhammad also said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally - and it isn't hard to guess why.
Bukhari (5:268) - "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, 'Had the Prophet the strength for it?' Anas replied, 'We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men.' "
Bukhari (60:311) - "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires." These words were spoken by Aisha within the context of her husband having been given 'Allah's permission' to fulfill his sexual desires with a large number of women in whatever order he chooses. (It has been suggested that Aisha may have been speaking somewhat wryly).
Muslim (8:3424) - One of several narrations in which a leering Muhammad orders a clearly startled woman to suckle a grown man with her breast so that he will become "unlawful" to her - meaning that they can live under the same roof together.
Koran 78:31
As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high- bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.
Koran 37:40-48
...They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches.
Koran 44:51-55
...Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris. (beautiful virgins)
Koran 52:24
Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.
Koran 56:17
Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.
Koran 76:19
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.
Koran 52:17-20
...They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris (virgins) we shall wed them...
Koran 55:56-57
In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before.Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"
Koran 55:57-58
Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"
Koran 56:7-40
...We created the houris (the beautiful women) and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand.. "
Koran 55:70-77
"In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair... Dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jin will have touched before..
So may the muslims Be consistent in Denouncing the qu´ran as they Denounce the bible!
