june-july marks the start of the BIGGEST altseason to date

[PsychoDsk]

I'm a HTF trader so don't come up with your bullshit 'b...b...but u said altseason would start in may'. kill yourself buddy boyo

Lately I've been on a roll and catched every move on bitty with 100% accuracy.

Do yourself and ur family some good and prepare

@Alex_mentalcel Let's do a bet, u said altseason won't be happening.

U decide $

Anyone else wanna bet? I'm feeling like gambling

 

[ascension]

Whats the golden line on the right? Money supply?

Also, a real altseason doesn't happen till monetary policy changes. Until then, we'll get small pumps here and there.

 

[PsychoDsk]

Whats the golden line on the right? Money supply?

Also, a real altseason doesn't happen till monetary policy changes. Until then, we'll get small pumps here and there.

Yes m2
That’s enough to base direction and net gain on. What if I were to tell u the US is already in shadow QE.
China is full on in QE, eu is cutting rates and the US is already injecting enough liquidity.

Net liquidity wise, we have enough for our first REAL liquidity driven markup leg. When usa goes in full qe october - november that’s when we’ll have the second run (blow-off top as one might say)

Excuse me for the ss but it’s a lot to type again

 

[PsychoDsk]

Yes m2
That’s enough to base direction and net gain on. What if I were to tell u the US is already in shadow QE.
China is full on in QE, eu is cutting rates and the US is already injecting enough liquidity.

Net liquidity wise, we have enough for our first REAL liquidity driven markup leg. When usa goes in full qe october - november that’s when we’ll have the second run (blow-off top as one might say)

Excuse me for the ss but it’s a lot to type again

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Trump just wants on paper qe asap because for him it would be in his best interest to get THE god of the goddest legs now so he looks good for the midterms. But powell ain’t gonna do that with no incentive so

Good leg until end of summer, black swan, usa goes in QE on paper and up holdings, second leg

Ykwim?

 

[Cr™]

So summary what should I buy

 

[ascension]

Trump just wants on paper qe asap because for him it would be in his best interest to get THE god of the goddest legs now so he looks good for the midterms. But powell ain’t gonna do that with no incentive so

Good leg until end of summer, black swan, usa goes in QE on paper and up holdings, second leg

Ykwim?

Yes m2
That’s enough to base direction and net gain on. What if I were to tell u the US is already in shadow QE.
China is full on in QE, eu is cutting rates and the US is already injecting enough liquidity.

Net liquidity wise, we have enough for our first REAL liquidity driven markup leg. When usa goes in full qe october - november that’s when we’ll have the second run (blow-off top as one might say)

Excuse me for the ss but it’s a lot to type again

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Everything you've said there is true, the problem is knowing whether that excess liquidity will make it into alts for a sustained period of time, in the last bull run it was retail pouring money into alts with their stimulus checks. Now we've got institutional buyers who seem to be just putting money into BTC for now. BTC dominance is way too high at the moment.

Still, things are looking good with Trumps bill being passed and rates being cut around the world/QE in some places.

I'm looking into Hyperliquid ecosystem coins, in particular HyperEVM. HYPE's done like 300% recently, seems to be the lovechild of crypto at the moment. Also looking at a few Base coins too, thats a narrative that should do well.

 

[PsychoDsk]

Everything you've said there is true, the problem is knowing whether that excess liquidity will make it into alts for a sustained period of time, in the last bull run it was retail pouring money into alts with their stimulus checks. Now we've got institutional buyers who seem to be just putting money into BTC for now. BTC dominance is way too high at the moment.

Still, things are looking good with Trumps bill being passed and rates being cut around the world/QE in some places.

I'm looking into Hyperliquid ecosystem coins, in particular HyperEVM. HYPE's done like 300% recently, seems to be the lovechild of crypto at the moment. Also looking at a few Base coins too, thats a narrative that should do well.

Hmm I can see why you’d think that tbh. But that's kinda how it always goes in an alt-run. Rotation flows from btc and eth towards alts, excess liquidity always ends up in pure risk-on assets. Retail always comes late and apes in at the top, which is why we're still hella early atm. Social interest is at 0, confirmed by google searches, play store statistics, etc etc.

For me, every chart that involves altcoin directions is telling me to ape every stable I have.
the M2 not only shows direction for BTC but it also shows direction on individual altcoins.

Let's pick my favorite alt for example.
Overlayed with M2, with the offset perfected mathematically and with usual btc-->eth-->alt rotation time included.

For me, the M2 going up is a good enough sign that alts are boutta catch stray liquidity like not seen before this cycle.
And yea ofcourse, the leg up would be even more perfect if the US would be in full-on QE, but for this leg it's not necessarily needed imo. Their NET is good enough and can't hold the charts down.

I've only heard good things about the hyperliquid ecosystem. R u also farming their airdrops or just looking at beta plays of hype?
I've actually been pondering if I should grab some more ETH L2 plays like BRETT on base eco but idk tbh, my port's already stacked on alts rn. I got like 15 alts I need to check up on already JFL

I do think BTC.D is close to topping out tho, paired with ETH/BTC looking phenomenal. I've been twapping ETHBTC pair hard past few days actually.

 

[ascension]

Hmm I can see why you’d think that tbh. But that's kinda how it always goes in an alt-run. Rotation flows from btc and eth towards alts, excess liquidity always ends up in pure risk-on assets. Retail always comes late and apes in at the top, which is why we're still hella early atm. Social interest is at 0, confirmed by google searches, play store statistics, etc etc.

For me, every chart that involves altcoin directions is telling me to ape every stable I have.
the M2 not only shows direction for BTC but it also shows direction on individual altcoins.

Let's pick my favorite alt for example.
Overlayed with M2, with the offset perfected mathematically and with usual btc-->eth-->alt rotation time included.

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For me, the M2 going up is a good enough sign that alts are boutta catch stray liquidity like not seen before this cycle.
And yea ofcourse, the leg up would be even more perfect if the US would be in full-on QE, but for this leg it's not necessarily needed imo. Their NET is good enough and can't hold the charts down.

I've only heard good things about the hyperliquid ecosystem. R u also farming their airdrops or just looking at beta plays of hype?
I've actually been pondering if I should grab some more ETH L2 plays like BRETT on base eco but idk tbh, my port's already stacked on alts rn. I got like 15 alts I need to check up on already JFL

I do think BTC.D is close to topping out tho, paired with ETH/BTC looking phenomenal. I've been twapping ETHBTC pair hard past few days actually.

Yeah you're right, I reckon alts will pump for a bit now, and the retail masses most likely aren't here yet.

I wouldn't say I'm at an advanced enough level to be farming airdrops on chain, etc. I'm mainly just looking for small altcoins that have a decent enough narrative to give me a 5-10x short term. HyperEVM is pretty new and is seeing some pretty good volume on Dexscreener. I'm holding a token called LQScan, which is supposedly a DeFi hub for HyperEVM. And on Base I'm holding "noice", which is really similar to "Degen". Could potentially go to hundreds of millions on mkt cap. I'm kinda in the trenches here, but fuck it, let's see if I can make anything.

If I can get a 5-10x overall on these coins I'll switch that money into some better alts like Ondo, Morpho, Sol.

 

[PsychoDsk]

Yeah you're right, I reckon alts will pump for a bit now, and the retail masses most likely aren't here yet.

I wouldn't say I'm at an advanced enough level to be farming airdrops on chain, etc. I'm mainly just looking for small altcoins that have a decent enough narrative to give me a 5-10x short term. HyperEVM is pretty new and is seeing some pretty good volume on Dexscreener. I'm holding a token called LQScan, which is supposedly a DeFi hub for HyperEVM. And on Base I'm holding "noice", which is really similar to "Degen". Could potentially go to hundreds of millions on mkt cap. I'm kinda in the trenches here, but fuck it, let's see if I can make anything.

If I can get a 5-10x overall on these coins I'll switch that money into some better alts like Ondo, Morpho, Sol.

Yea I’m really not that into micro-caps anymore, nor know enough about the ecos
I’ve always had better ROI in midcaps tbh in my own experience. I suck at finding good micro caps

Good luck these next few weeks boyo
May u get over the top rich and have stacies suck your dick on ur personal yacht

 

[Alex_mentalcel]

Define "altseason". If it's 5x–10x on every top 100 coin - that’s never happening again.
2x–3x on good coins might be possible, probably in Q4.


Not betting on anything

 

[laworg]

So summary what should I buy

Pump ur live savings in elon trump shitcoins before its over

 

[Alex_mentalcel]

Define "altseason". If it's 5x–10x on every top 100 coin - that’s never happening again.
2x–3x on good coins might be possible, probably in Q4.


Not betting on anything

I guess some new dumb meme coins can do 10x. Something like WIF already did 4x from bottom

 

[SecularIslamist]

Shill me some coins.

I need a shitcoin season man. I don't care about these top 100 bullshit. I'm balls deep in the graveyard of alts sub-50 million mcap lmao.

 

[oadboueq1293]

So summary what should I buy

buy tjr course

 

[Cr™]

buy tjr course

Hi

 

[poloralf]

i agree with you for the simple reason that i'm starting to feel that hopelessness that there wont be an altseason and i always make money counter treading that first sentiment i get on everything crypto related.

 

[PsychoDsk]

i agree with you for the simple reason that i'm starting to feel that hopelessness that there wont be an altseason and i always make money counter treading that first sentiment i get on everything crypto related.

That’s the way

 

[PsychoDsk]

Define "altseason". If it's 5x–10x on every top 100 coin - that’s never happening again.
2x–3x on good coins might be possible, probably in Q4.


Not betting on anything

Altseason is the others chart breaks this resistance and goes in price discovery

And I do think there’ll be multiples on almost everything again. March 2024 was a pretty alright altseason that had 5x average on a coin. That altseason wasn’t even that fueled so I think many underestimate the one we could get now.

2017 type altseason imo

First we could have one more brutal sweep tho, would be max pain to then go bananas

 

[Deleted member 114837]

what altseason means? So it's time to buy or sell and what ? Thanks bro

 

[PsychoDsk]

We haven’t even started the fun yet

 

[PsychoDsk]

Print szn.

 

[d3m4g5]

Print szn.

Ngga tell me why I decided to short the bottom 3 days ago . Saw Elons tweets and thought BTC would keep crashing down

 

[d3m4g5]

Ngga tell me why I decided to short the bottom 3 days ago . Saw Elons tweets and thought BTC would keep crashing down

How cooked is that position

 

[PsychoDsk]

How cooked is that position

U are more then cooked
And OM, really????

Number 1 rule : when there’s a liquidation event or chaos and everything nukes u max long everything no matter how bad things might seem

(Only in bull markets)

 

[d3m4g5]

U are more then cooked
And OM, really????

Number 1 rule : when there’s a liquidation event or chaos and everything nukes u max long everything no matter how bad things might seem

(Only in bull markets)

Noted.

I shorted Om over a month ago after the big crash, feels like it's a Safemoon type dying project.

 

[d3m4g5]

U are more then cooked
And OM, really????

Number 1 rule : when there’s a liquidation event or chaos and everything nukes u max long everything no matter how bad things might seem

(Only in bull markets)

Also, any thoughts/advice on when to close the BTC position?

 

[ascension]

Ngga tell me why I decided to short the bottom 3 days ago . Saw Elons tweets and thought BTC would keep crashing down

Use a stop-loss man

 

[PsychoDsk]

Dips are for buying
Longs are safu

First time alts will catch real bids this cycle. All previous runs is noise. Ppl have bear ptsd and think alts max 5x. No, almost every alt prints 10-50x in a real altseason.

Alts have never been this coiled up, liquidity suggests go time is now, btc.d looks good to proceed dumping. Copper/gold bottomed out = liquidity is flowing from risk-off to risk-on again.

I mean, just look at these charts
Should tell u enough

 

[poloralf]

 

[Rivers of Nihil]

do you think XLM is worth buying ?

 

[PsychoDsk]

do you think XLM is worth buying ?

Don’t know

 

[d3m4g5]

Also, any thoughts/advice on when to close the BTC position?

Bump

 

[Foreverbrad]

I just need 4k ETH and 230 SOL so I can dump my bags lol

 

[abcd]

Fuck I wanna hope but ive seen everyone call for alt szn 900 times in the last year and it never happens so idk anymore.

My life savings are balls deep in shitty micro cap ai alt coins so I'm either not gonna make any money (95%) or my portfolio will 5x in a few weeks.

I just wish I stuck to BTC and Solana though I fell for these influencers shilling alts when I knew nothing about how this shit works.

I was up good in December though, should've sold

 

[poloralf]

Fuck I wanna hope but ive seen everyone call for alt szn 900 times in the last year and it never happens so idk anymore.

My life savings are balls deep in shitty micro cap ai alt coins so I'm either not gonna make any money (95%) or my portfolio will 5x in a few weeks.

I just wish I stuck to BTC and Solana though I fell for these influencers shilling alts when I knew nothing about how this shit works.

I was up good in December though, should've sold

its because of solana's crazy marketing they brought some complete newbies and launched pumpfun diluting the whole market, usually the old timers fud any launchpad to death but the newbies they marketed to just embraced the casino and now its a thing. we should punish the sol team if there is no alt season tbh

 

[romanstock]

i'm going for trump boomer etf narrative. trump boom will bring the boomer money piling in on top but they're too dumb so will only use etfs.

btc, eth, sol, ltc

 

[Haseeb]

I'm a HTF trader so don't come up with your bullshit 'b...b...but u said altseason would start in may'. kill yourself buddy boyo

Lately I've been on a roll and catched every move on bitty with 100% accuracy.

Do yourself and ur family some good and prepare

@Alex_mentalcel Let's do a bet, u said altseason won't be happening.

U decide $

Anyone else wanna bet? I'm feeling like gambling

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just tell me what to buy when buy when sell

 

[kingofkings]

There's now way too many alts for there to be a full-blown alt szn like there was in the previous cycles. That's not to mention meme coins sucking up all the degen liquidity. There's just not enough money in the system to pump everything x15 anymore like in the old days.

It's over for anyone looking for a straightforward x100. Or even an easy x20.

I've got my money parked in a few blue chip memes like Pepe and Trump, and a couple of the bigger alts with lots of on-chain activity like Sol and Sui. These are all pretty much guaranteed to pump hard when/if Bitcoin does a big move up. But I'm not expecting anything miraculous like the good old days.

 

[PsychoDsk]

There's now way too many alts for there to be a full-blown alt szn like there was in the previous cycles. That's not to mention meme coins sucking up all the degen liquidity. There's just not enough money in the system to pump everything x15 anymore like in the old days.

It's over for anyone looking for a straightforward x100. Or even an easy x20.

I've got my money parked in a few blue chip memes like Pepe and Trump, and a couple of the bigger alts with lots of on-chain activity like Sol and Sui. These are all pretty much guaranteed to pump hard when/if Bitcoin does a big move up. But I'm not expecting anything miraculous like the good old days.

Tbh that’s major CT cope. I spent 4 days overlooking all the math with a couple other nerds and the amount of ‘viable’ tokens that could participate in a run are the same as in 2021.

I did the math with different requirements.
- above 1M FDV
- volume of 500k D atleast
- 5k holders minimum

that comes out at around 1746 coins in total, 2021 had 1687 and 2017 had 1235.

there is barely any dilution in the altcoin market, memes rn are the NFTs of 2021. They don’t require any significant amounts of liquidity to pull multiples.

The amount of free flowing liquidity that is circulating rn is perfect to send 90% of alts 20x. I think it’s just PTSD and disbelief with the dilution argument. No equation has shown this to be a fact, it’s merely just an opinion formed out of ‘logic’ but anyone knows logic doesn’t work in physics related markets like crypto.

 

[kingofkings]

Tbh that’s major CT cope. I spent 4 days overlooking all the math with a couple other nerds and the amount of ‘viable’ tokens that could participate in a run are the same as in 2021.

I did the math with different requirements.
- above 1M FDV
- volume of 500k D atleast
- 5k holders minimum

that comes out at around 1746 coins in total, 2021 had 1687 and 2017 had 1235.

there is barely any dilution in the altcoin market, memes rn are the NFTs of 2021. They don’t require any significant amounts of liquidity to pull multiples.

The amount of free flowing liquidity that is circulating rn is perfect to send 90% of alts 20x. I think it’s just PTSD and disbelief with the dilution argument. No equation has shown this to be a fact, it’s merely just an opinion formed out of ‘logic’ but anyone knows logic doesn’t work in physics related markets like crypto.

Intuitively that analysis feels wrong to me. You're saying that in 8 years the number of eligible new alt coins is less than double. That can't be right.

At the end of the day, we've seen Bitcoin go x7 from 15k to 100k+ and nothing remotely like the old alt szns occurred. What makes you think Bitcoin doing another x2 on top is going to trigger it?

And I think the meme coin to nft analogy is stretched thin. Meme coins are more like alt coins than nfts.

Out of interest feel free to list a few of the alt coins you see doing 20x? I'll check back in at the end of the year

 

[PsychoDsk]

Intuitively that analysis feels wrong to me. You're saying that in 8 years the number of eligible new alt coins is less than double. That can't be right.

At the end of the day, we've seen Bitcoin go x7 from 15k to 100k+ and nothing remotely like the old alt szns occurred. What makes you think Bitcoin doing another x2 on top is going to trigger it?

And I think the meme coin to nft analogy is stretched thin. Meme coins are more like alt coins than nfts.

Out of interest feel free to list a few of the alt coins you see doing 20x? I'll check back in at the end of the year

Not a lot of ppl can pull off a valid good project that meets these requirements. Agreed, memecoins do somewhat take out some liquidity but most of these don’t even reach 10M or immediately rug right after. The liquidity that pumps in those memecoins that run x100 to 10m for example is insignificant to the amount of liquidity that will flow in hype.

There are some memecoins that we could list as altcoins (I’m thinking pengu, pepe, popcat etc etc). These can and will get a great deal of liquidity spread out to them but imo the actual ‘sol season’ is over. Most of the attention will be on eth onchain and fundamentals (RWA, AI, …)

That’s also why the number of valid coins hasn’t increased that much, investors and big big whales have become more selective with the coins they decide to ape (mostly visible on volume flows on sectors). Memecoins are kinda dying off in memecoin activity and eth L2’s flipped sol tx’s. Even TRON will get a good onchain season any moment

March 2024 was already a pretty intense altseason in which fundamentals pulled an x5 on average. This time we have an actual price discovery leg on OTHERS AND Global liquidity sentiment and count. So according to data and just overall flow we haven’t even seen 5% of an actual altseason this cycle.
I think that’s what makes many ppl scared, most think there won’t be an altseason or they have forgotten how insane it actually is due to the last 2 weak ass pumps.

i’ll give u 1 good alt, CPOOL

 

[abcd]

its because of solana's crazy marketing they brought some complete newbies and launched pumpfun diluting the whole market, usually the old timers fud any launchpad to death but the newbies they marketed to just embraced the casino and now its a thing. we should punish the sol team if there is no alt season tbh

Eh idk also monetary policy is different than 2021 and alot of people say this bull run is fueled by the ETFs which aren't gonna rotate into alts

 

[poloralf]

Eh idk also monetary policy is different than 2021 and alot of people say this bull run is fueled by the ETFs which aren't gonna rotate into alts

nah nigger its 99% due to pumpfun, even newbies come already trained for the "trenches" embracing the farms and short lived coins, calling them "daily runners". that was never hte case before newbies would come join and buy a coin and never check the chart in days or weeks. that lead to culture coins going to crazy valuations and alt season

 

[PsychoDsk]

Eh idk also monetary policy is different than 2021 and alot of people say this bull run is fueled by the ETFs which aren't gonna rotate into alts

Meh
True the US had QE in 2021 which gave good liquidity to the market but now they’re already in shadow QE, liquidating balance sheet without purchasing new assets (shadow qe). Also china and the whole of asia is participating in this bull and they’re all in full on QE aka printing money on the daily. That’s enough. They weren’t in the 2021 bull.

Just follow global money supply, RRPONTSYD and WALCL, tells u everything u need to know about liquidity conditions

 

[PsychoDsk]

nah nigger its 99% due to pumpfun, even newbies come already trained for the "trenches" embracing the farms and short lived coins, calling them "daily runners". that was never hte case before newbies would come join and buy a coin and never check the chart in days or weeks. that lead to culture coins going to crazy valuations and alt season

Not how it works

 

[poloralf]

Not how it works

yeah keep coping with money flow and btc dominance. its not like you're the millionth person to do that you don't hold hidden mysterious knowledge cucky

 

[PsychoDsk]

yeah keep coping with money flow and btc dominance. its not like you're the millionth person to do that you don't hold hidden mysterious knowledge cucky

Sure
100% accurate facts are cope now
Pumpfun really did a number on some retards

 

[Alex_mentalcel]

There's now way too many alts for there to be a full-blown alt szn like there was in the previous cycles. That's not to mention meme coins sucking up all the degen liquidity. There's just not enough money in the system to pump everything x15 anymore like in the old days.

It's over for anyone looking for a straightforward x100. Or even an easy x20.

I've got my money parked in a few blue chip memes like Pepe and Trump, and a couple of the bigger alts with lots of on-chain activity like Sol and Sui. These are all pretty much guaranteed to pump hard when/if Bitcoin does a big move up. But I'm not expecting anything miraculous like the good old days.

You also have to consider the fact that a lot of retail investors are much more educated about crypto market now compared to 2021. They’ve learned from 2021 that 99% of altcoins are essentially pump and dump rug-pull scams where they’re in 99% cases will lose money. Coins like $TRUMP and $MELANIA only reinforced that perception.

What should the average person think about altcoins when even the President of USA uses them just to rug-pull his own fans?

Retail investors would rather buy the next AI or tech stock, hoping it becomes the next NVIDIA

 

[SecularIslamist]

Retail investors would rather buy the next AI or tech stock, hoping it becomes the next NVIDIA

Quantum and nuclear stocks like IONQ and OKLO have been getting retail attention. I made money shorting them but think they could still run. I think biotech is being severely underestimated so I'm in on that tbh.

You know it's a narrative bubble when every stockk associated with this new craze goes up. Doesn't matter if it's nanotechnology, 3D printers, AI, quantum, EVs etc they all pump together before they all bleed a slow death. There is usually just one winner in these domains.

 

[d3m4g5]

Ngga tell me why I decided to short the bottom 3 days ago . Saw Elons tweets and thought BTC would keep crashing down

Diamond f*cking hands Nggas