Just had web-consultation with my jawsurgeon

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very friendly but a bit of a language barrier

I sent him a Ceph few days ago and he made a morph with only bimax ccw and I nearly have a Ante-face there

talked about vertical ramus osteotomy with a modification (pulling one side down) to fix different ramus sizes and advance jaw. He said this surgery is only used for special patients (open bite I guess) and not an option

he said, I cant do chinwing because of the BSSO but recommended "Beatiful chin". it reaches farther behind than Genio and is better for making chin wider.

I have inward sloping ramus (gives triangular face shape and narrow looking jaw). I couldnt understand much of what he was saying there but he showed me on his desktop, that he deattachs the mandible from the ramus somehow and moves them outwards

I told him that my orthodontist originally proposed a SARPE with jaw surgery but I would rather avoid to fly down there only for the SARPE.
He said that he will insert it in the double jaw surgery. I said, I will probably die in their hospital. He said, I shouldnt worry because it is their problem.
I cant try SARPE + Facemask probably because I would want to avoid pulling on my freshly operated maxilla

15k including 2-3 weeks hospital
web consultation was free
good explanations with visualisation

But very much surgeries at once.
I plan to augment my midface a year later to bring harmony back

now I only have to wait what the healthcare says
 
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Which surgeon?
 
2 working together
Marianetti and Ramieri
Rome

Ramieri is consulting with the foreigners

Ah yes. I also had consult with Marianetti, he's a nice guy. I booked surgery with him but backed out last minute. I wish I had done it now.
I wish he posted more bimax results on his website.
 
interesting to see someone here who actually did fall for the lefort 9000 meme for real, gl, let us know how it goes
 
interesting to see someone here who actually did fall for the lefort 9000 meme for real, gl, let us know how it goes
tell me why it is a meme?
For class 1 people with no deformity it is probs
 
tell me why it is a meme?
For class 1 people with no deformity it is probs
i didn't imply it was, it's legit af but as u said it got memed to death already back on lookism.net by larping aspies with no bite or maxilla issues saying they were totally for real gonna do every surgery in the book to mog gandy or w/e and then pussying out on it

respect to you for actually going through with it all tho
 
i didn't imply it was, it's legit af but as u said it got memed to death already back on lookism.net by larping aspies with no bite or maxilla issues saying they were totally for real gonna do every surgery in the book to mog gandy or w/e and then pussying out on it

respect to you for actually going through with it all tho
the meme I can understand is, that if you advance upper jaw, your midface looks even more recessed and soft tissue and what else. You would look like a rodent too
 
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just got a caricature based on my ceph, how the outcome will be

Only from the Bimax
bit ccw and advancement
my chin will be in line with my nasion and I will add a modified Genio on top of it

I think I shouldnt worry about the side profile here.

What still sparks a lot of enthusiasm in me is, what he said about the ramus.
He said he could make them straighter, but I dont remember how. I think it often happens at BSSO ? Or did he mean he does an extra cut on it ?
If this is true and he could significantly rotate the ramus outwards, I could fix so many flaws at once.

I also said a broader chin would be nice, he said something about parting the chin on the modified genio on the front and make them wider

This will be very interesting. I would be thankful enough that they advance both jaws because I snore and my orthodon said it is indeed narrow and short

if they really manage to make my ramus and chin on a good level, then I dont need fillers for them
 
very friendly but a bit of a language barrier

I sent him a Ceph few days ago and he made a morph with only bimax ccw and I nearly have a Ante-face there

talked about vertical ramus osteotomy with a modification (pulling one side down) to fix different ramus sizes and advance jaw. He said this surgery is only used for special patients (open bite I guess) and not an option

he said, I cant do chinwing because of the BSSO but recommended "Beatiful chin". it reaches farther behind than Genio and is better for making chin wider.

I have inward sloping ramus (gives triangular face shape and narrow looking jaw). I couldnt understand much of what he was saying there but he showed me on his desktop, that he deattachs the mandible from the ramus somehow and moves them outwards

I told him that my orthodontist originally proposed a SARPE with jaw surgery but I would rather avoid to fly down there only for the SARPE.
He said that he will insert it in the double jaw surgery. I said, I will probably die in their hospital. He said, I shouldnt worry because it is their problem.
I cant try SARPE + Facemask probably because I would want to avoid pulling on my freshly operated maxilla

15k including 2-3 weeks hospital
web consultation was free
good explanations with visualisation

But very much surgeries at once.
I plan to augment my midface a year later to bring harmony back

now I only have to wait what the healthcare says
great job
 
Side profile is the least thing u guys shouöd focus on
 
Side profile is the least thing u guys shouöd focus on
well, I didnt start for cosmetic purposes. I browsed JSF before this one and wanted functionallity (wasnt lookspilled back then) but why not both?

as I said, for front the CCW wider chin and rotation of Ramus is far more interesting.

the "advancements" he illustrated are very conservative, but the rotation makes the difference
 
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He is now charging 150euro for his online consults..
 
this thread is worth necropost warning tbh
 
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