just measured bidelt at 21-21.5 inches, should I roid?

[Deleted member 32529]

5'11 just turned 19, 2 years natty training

should I roid or will it be ogre, goal would be a jeff seid look

 

[Xerryx]

If this is 2 years natty, you got potential
Above average for sure.

People use PEDs to get to this level.
Using PEDs might turn you into Sam Sulek (or some other ogre). I don't see the appeal of getting bigger than this. Your decision though.

 

[User28823]

you'll never look like jeff, hips too wide. brutal.

 

[exo]

your body looks good enough

 

[Xerryx]

you'll never look like jeff, hips too wide. brutal.

He can spam vacuum poses to get 1-2 inch waist reduction.
Also if he trains obliques, he should stop that.

 

[Xerryx]

He can spam vacuum poses to get 1-2 inch waist reduction.
Also if he trains obliques, he should stop that.

To add to this, he can anglefraud and lightfraud like Jeff and get an even more snatched waist.
Your favorite fitness influencer looks like shit IRL compared to Instagram pics.

Finally, OP is not lean enough yet. When lean, a boxy waist with abs can still look high-appeal if the upper-body is wide enough.

 

[Deleted member 18582]

holy shit youre buff

 

[Deleted member 32529]

you'll never look like jeff, hips too wide. brutal.

im fat af is why, maybe i wont have the best taper of all time but ill still look good

this was when I was like 5 months into training and MUCH leaner

 

[Deleted member 32529]

He can spam vacuum poses to get 1-2 inch waist reduction.
Also if he trains obliques, he should stop that.

my obliques are big cus i train heavy compounds

200kg squat > slightly smaller waist

 

[Deleted member 32529]

To add to this, he can anglefraud and lightfraud like Jeff and get an even more snatched waist.
Your favorite fitness influencer looks like shit IRL compared to Instagram pics.

Finally, OP is not lean enough yet. When lean, a boxy waist with abs can still look high-appeal if the upper-body is wide enough.

White Tyson innit same stats and all 5'11 100kg

 

[Deleted member 18582]

you just inspired me to measure my own shoulders. they are 22-23 inches is this good?


alathough i am not as chunky as you. I am also 5'11"

 

[User28823]

im fat af is why, maybe i wont have the best taper of all time but ill still look goodView attachment 2419408

this was when I was like 5 months into training and MUCH leaner

You'll look good but no Jeff Seid, just another guy on gear

 

[Deleted member 32529]

you just inspired me to measure my own shoulders. they are 22-23 inches is this good?


alathough i am not as chunky as you. I am also 5'11"

if ur untrained i doubt they are 22-23 cus thats literally top 1% especially for height

if they are good on you though thats an insanely good frame

 

[Deleted member 32529]

You'll look good but no Jeff Seid, just another guy on gear

ok bro i mog most guys in my gym who are on gear and my coach is a wr pler but muh just another guy

 

[Deleted member 18582]

if ur untrained i doubt they are 22-23 cus thats literally top 1% especially for height

if they are good on you though thats an insanely good frame

i do minimal weight exercises at home

sit ups, pull ups, over head press, push ups etc

where are statistics on bideltoid by height?

 

[Deleted member 18582]

ok bro i mog most guys in my gym who are on gear and my coach is a wr pler but muh just another guy

i dont think you should roid getting bigger than you are rn is just overkill

 

[Deleted member 18582]

why do yo uwant to look like jeff seid?

 

[Deleted member 32529]

i dont think you should roid getting bigger than you are rn is just overkill

its cus im high bf when i cut itll b much less ogre

 

[Deleted member 32529]

why do yo uwant to look like jeff seid?

got to make up for avg height

 

[Deleted member 18582]

its cus im high bf when i cut itll b much less ogre

yeah jsut get rid of the fat

whats your height?

 

[Deleted member 32529]

i do minimal weight exercises at home

sit ups, pull ups, over head press, push ups etc

where are statistics on bideltoid by height?

23 is top 1% for the military so unless u are constantly getting your wide shoulders pointed out u might b measuring wrong

 

[Deleted member 32529]

To add to this, he can anglefraud and lightfraud like Jeff and get an even more snatched waist.
Your favorite fitness influencer looks like shit IRL compared to Instagram pics.

Finally, OP is not lean enough yet. When lean, a boxy waist with abs can still look high-appeal if the upper-body is wide enough.

whos the girl bhai

 

[Deleted member 32529]

yeah jsut get rid of the fat

whats your height?

5'11

 

[Deleted member 32529]

imagine my body genetics at 6'2

makes me want to get LL

 

[Deleted member 18582]

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23 is top 1% for the military so unless u are constantly getting your wide shoulders pointed out u might b measuring wrong

It was probably closer to 22 than 23

 

[Deleted member 18582]

5'11

5'11" is the perfect heihgt for a good frame

 

[Deleted member 32529]

It was probably closer to 22 than 23

photo?

 

[Deleted member 18582]

photo?

i will have to take one i havent taken a body pic

 

[User28823]

ok bro i mog most guys in my gym who are on gear and my coach is a wr pler but muh just another guy

Jeff Seid at 16

Jeff: symmetrical, god tier chest insertions and torso, shark rib cage, straight clavicles.
You: Wide hips, wonky rib cage, asymmetric chest insertion, clavicles not straight, all of this will be emphasized on gear and once you get leaner you will notice it even harder.

Brutal.

 

[Deleted member 32529]

Jeff Seid at 16

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Jeff: symmetrical, god tier chest insertions and torso, shark rib cage, straight clavicles.
You: Wide hips, wonky rib cage, asymmetric chest insertion, clavicles not straight, all of this will be emphasized on gear and once you get leaner you will notice it even harder.

Brutal.

well you obviously dont get how getting lean works. Once you get lean your insertions look BETTER because the contrast in height between muscle and fat is less and so the gaps look smaller

our insertions are hardly different JFL

anyway its a spectrum dumbass its not jeff seid or skinny fat framecel

and my ribcage mogs btw

 

[User28823]

well you obviously dont get how getting lean works. Once you get lean your insertions look BETTER because the contrast in height between muscle and fat is less and so the gaps look smaller

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our insertions are hardly different JFL

anyway its a spectrum dumbass its not jeff seid or skinny fat framecel

and my ribcage mogs btw

Absolutely BRUTAL for your IQ.

You didn't comprehend what I said.

Good insertions + lean will obviously look good, bad insertions lean and you end up looking like a retard. Jeff has perfectly symmetrical and unique chest insertions, very distinct from yours.

Notice how you hide your hips in your pics? Because it never began for hipcels. Hips are everything for an aesthetic physique like Jeff.

Show me a stomach vacuum from the front otherwise that rib cage pic is just cope.
THIS is a mogger ribcage + hip structure:

 

[Deleted member 32529]

Absolutely BRUTAL for your IQ.

You didn't comprehend what I said.

Good insertions + lean will obviously look good, bad insertions lean and you end up looking like a retard. Jeff has perfectly symmetrical and unique chest insertions, very distinct from yours.

Notice how you hide your hips in your pics? Because it never began for hipcels. Hips are everything for an aesthetic physique like Jeff.

Show me a stomach vacuum from the front otherwise that rib cage pic is just cope.
THIS is a mogger ribcage + hip structure:

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i did comprehend what you said, it still looks better when leaner unless literally deformed tier , which mine are very far from

im not hiding my hips here, and this is when iwas much leaner (still like 15+% tho) and they arent particularly wide

I also have 26.5 inch quads so yh

ill post my photos when i shred and we'll see

 

[Deleted member 25743]

I have around 21 too but im a bobblehead so I look framecel

 

[Deleted member 32529]

I have around 21 too but im a bobblehead so I look framecel
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i have a bobble head too especially rn cus my hair is all spikey

your proportions look better tho cus you got a narrow waist, i just look big, people often ask if i play rugby or smth.

how long have you been in the gym?

 

[Deleted member 25743]

i have a bobble head too especially rn cus my hair is all spikey

your proportions look better tho cus you got a narrow waist, i just look big, people often ask if i play rugby or smth.

how long have you been in the gym?

I have been training at home for 2-3 years but in the beginning I was just fucking around

 

[Deleted member 32529]

I have been training at home for 2-3 years but in the beginning I was just fucking around

nice bro you look much better than i do in normal lighting

how much do you weigh? i am 100kg lol

 

[Deleted member 25743]

nice bro you look much better than i do in normal lighting

how much do you weigh? i am 100kg lol

75 kg jfl

 

[Deleted member 32529]

75 kg jfl

how tall

 

[Deleted member 25743]

how tall

5'11

 

[Deleted member 25743]

how tall

Yes I dont train legs

 

[socialcel]

If this is 2 years natty, you got potential
Above average for sure.

People use PEDs to get to this level.
Using PEDs might turn you into Sam Sulek (or some other ogre). I don't see the appeal of getting bigger than this. Your decision though.

just fucking lol if u think this is above average genetics

 

[Deleted member 32529]

just fucking lol if u think this is above average genetics

I’m 100kg 6 foot after 2.5 years training while not being that fat, able to run a 30 min 5k and do combat sports 4 times a week . Just cus I don’t have a narrow waist doesn’t mean I have bad genetics lol

Do you see most ppl ? Just cus u have you “excellent” genetics doesn’t mean everyone else’s are trash

 

[nullandvoid]

He can spam vacuum poses to get 1-2 inch waist reduction.
Also if he trains obliques, he should stop that.

Do vacuum poses seriously work?

 

[Apex6]

at, able to run a 30 min 5k a

slow af i was at 20m after a season of training lolll @ u subhuman garbo genes

 

[Deleted member 19294]

Absolutely BRUTAL for your IQ.

You didn't comprehend what I said.

Good insertions + lean will obviously look good, bad insertions lean and you end up looking like a retard. Jeff has perfectly symmetrical and unique chest insertions, very distinct from yours.

Notice how you hide your hips in your pics? Because it never began for hipcels. Hips are everything for an aesthetic physique like Jeff.

Show me a stomach vacuum from the front otherwise that rib cage pic is just cope.
THIS is a mogger ribcage + hip structure:

View attachment 2419458

This is bodybuilder autism. Any normal girl will be impressed by OP's natty physique

 

[SomaliMax]

You’ll never look like Jeff seid, his top 1% genetics. And from the pic, ur waist looks too blocky

 

[Deleted member 32529]

slow af i was at 20m after a season of training lolll @ u subhuman garbo genes

I never trained it. I did it once at 6am with no shoes after having not run for years. I usually row and I probably weigh at least 20kg more than you

And jfl being very good at cardio just means you have majority slow twitch muscle fibres and cant produce much power. It’s a myth that there are a singular set of “good” genes, it completely depends what you’re training for

 

[Deleted member 32529]

You’ll never look like Jeff seid, his top 1% genetics. And from the pic, ur waist looks too blocky

Maybe, but I don’t need to look like that