Just went on Toronto Tinder as a woman and got brutally mogged

[forevermirin]

Nah listen wherever you live if you can't manage to get likes from hot girls you're subhuman. Ppl Always Say that their city Is the hardest but then you spoof location there and it's the same pile of shit. I'm not even sure if tinder works anymore, not in Italy for sure as it's soooo suboptimal to meet.

exactly jfl locationcels are gigacopers. so many dudes irl keep coping with "bro i used to slay in x location its just much harder here" like stfu you have a recessed mandible and hyena teeth you wouldn't even slay in madras

 

[Deleted member 24002]

exactly jfl locationcels are gigacopers. so many dudes irl keep coping with "bro i used to slay in x location its just much harder here" like stfu you have a recessed mandible and hyena teeth you wouldn't even slay in madras

There are extremes though. Go try to slay in Sweden and then go try to slay in the Philippines and tell me which one is harder.

 

[forevermirin]

There are extremes though. Go try to slay in Sweden and then go try to slay in the Philippines and tell me which one is harder.

yeah ofc if you're saying toronto is much harder than bangalore or manila you're right, but compared to any other western metro there's barely any difference. like what makes u think its harder than sf or ny?

 

[hypernormie]

NYC is chad city but it gets bogged by Toronto due to concentration levels. Of course NYC has more chads because it has way more population. Toronto has more chads per capita

Might be true. however the algorithms are showing the chads to women. Most normies aren’t getting some sort of advantage on these apps due to chad dilution due to population size. The algorithms just work more aggressively and women just have more chads to choose from.

I can kinda of get what you’re saying but I don’t think it’s true NYC has been attracting chads since it’s inception. Models, actors, finance bros, etc. all want to be in NYC.

 

[the BULL]

There are extremes though. Go try to slay in Sweden and then go try to slay in the Philippines and tell me which one is harder.

The fact Is that ppl cope with It. Noooooooo Bro i live too far North in England, if i lived in London i would slay terrastacies!!! And so on.

 

[Deleted member 24002]

yeah ofc if you're saying toronto is much harder than bangalore or manila you're right, but compared to any other western metro there's barely any difference. like what makes u think its harder than sf or ny?

Agreed tbh Ive never even ran experiments in other huge cities. Vancouver, Miami, Chicago, LA, SF all the same as Toronto probably. But I've ran experiments in an average Canadian city like Calgary and the difference in competition is pretty sizeable.

 

[forevermirin]

Agreed tbh Ive never even ran experiments in other huge cities. Vancouver, Miami, Chicago, LA, SF all the same as Toronto probably. But I've ran experiments in an average Canadian city like Calgary and the difference in competition is pretty sizeable.

in fact i think LA and Miami re probably the most brutal cities in NA. Vancouver ive heard is relatively easy because shittons of ethnics lol

 

[Deleted member 24002]

Might be true. however the algorithms are showing the chads to women. Most normies aren’t getting some sort of advantage on these apps due to chad dilution due to population size. The algorithms just work more aggressively and women just have more chads to choose from.

I can kinda of get what you’re saying but I don’t think it’s true NYC has been attracting chads since it’s inception. Models, actors, finance bros, etc. all want to be in NYC.

Yeah its the same in Toronto tho because Toronto is literally NYC-lite. Like you said NYC has the same amount of lifemoggers as Toronto too (investment bankers, lawyers, etc). Tbh thats so important Ito SMV as well, an HTN Wall Street banker is going to slay. Im only 18 so I dont even have to deal with that competition yet.

 

[Deleted member 23114]

Surgerymax, gymmax, softmax, moneymax, NTmax I dont care do it all, there are far more chads and chadlites than anyone in here thinks they are everywhere. Why would any woman swipe on you when they have a plethora of jacked, square jawed, white men their age at their disposal ready to meet them. And men wonder why they get no matches, the women on these app's standards are so high because they SHOULD be high when chads are sending them likes by the dozens. If youre not HTN+, DO NOT go on these apps.

It’s over

 

[the BULL]

Agreed tbh Ive never even ran experiments in other huge cities. Vancouver, Miami, Chicago, LA, SF all the same as Toronto probably. But I've ran experiments in an average Canadian city like Calgary and the difference in competition is pretty sizeable.

It's all scaled, there are fewer girls too. I've moved to a larger city from a smallest Town and It has been easier despite more gl guys Simply because the girls are soooo many in cities like that.

 

[Deleted member 21346]

exactly jfl locationcels are gigacopers. so many dudes irl keep coping with "bro i used to slay in x location its just much harder here" like stfu you have a recessed mandible and hyena teeth you wouldn't even slay in madras

LOL the jokes on you bitch boy, because I got matches from big bodied and robust West Virginia country white women. I'm coming for that green card you faggy curry bitch, currently living in the slums of Delhi.

Also, jfl, I don't show my teeth to anyone when I talk or smile / laugh. Oh, and my natural bite is uncomfortable. I have to kind of leave my jaw hanging while my month's closed, and that's my comfortable position for my jaw.

 

[Deleted member 24002]

It’s over

Not yet tbh Im surgerymaxing at 18 + Im a UofT finance bro so I still have hope

 

[hypernormie]

Okay, relative to the PSL scale, what is the cutoff for a top 10% man?
HTN? Chadlite?

NYC follows a strict PSL scale because women have more to choose from. there is no shortage of chads and chadlites so in NYC top 10% is high tier chadlite and chads.

On a PSL scale we’re talking 7.5-9

Those guys are available so top 10% actually becomes top 10% in the strictest definition of the term.

 

[Deleted member 24002]

It's all scaled, there are fewer girls too. I've moved to a larger city from a smallest Town and It has been easier despite more gl guys Simply because the girls are soooo many in cities like that.

Not necessarily. More beautiful women but more chads, and they disproportionately get these women so technically it would be easiest in a city with less chads rather than more hot women.

 

[Deleted member 21346]

in fact i think LA and Miami re probably the most brutal cities in NA. Vancouver ive heard is relatively easy because shittons of ethnics lol

Okay, yes. This, I actually agree with. Good take bhai, but Toronto has a specific situation where high COL mixed in with 1 / 3 Toronto women having gone to Drake's house, out of world egos, and high concentration of chads, and it's undeniably harder

 

[Deleted member 24002]

NYC follows a strict PSL scale because women have more to choose from. there is no shortage of chads and chadlites so in NYC top 10% is high tier chadlite and chads.

On a PSL scale we’re talking 7.5-9

Those guys are available so top 10% actually becomes top 10% in the strictest definition of the term.

tbh I dont think you understand how high 7.5 PSL is.

 

[Deleted member 21346]

NYC follows a strict PSL scale because women have more to choose from. there is no shortage of chads and chadlites so in NYC top 10% is high tier chadlite and chads.

On a PSL scale we’re talking 7.5-9

Those guys are available so top 10% actually becomes top 10% in the strictest definition of the term.

Jesus Christ.

So, in NYC, it's chadlite with maxxed-out life AT MINIMUM or death.

 

[forevermirin]

On a PSL scale we’re talking 7.5-9

fuck off retarded graycel

 

[Deleted member 24002]

Okay, yes. This, I actually agree with. Good take bhai, but Toronto has a specific situation where high COL mixed in with 1 / 3 Toronto women having gone to Drake's house, out of world egos, and high concentration of chads, and it's undeniably harder

Yes, the women all have the LA/Miami mindset that if theyre HTB+ they deserve a chad millionaire

 

[the BULL]

Not necessarily. More beautiful women but more chads, and they disproportionately get these women so technically it would be easiest in a city with less chads rather than more hot women.

Chads don't get 10 girls each lol even if they could managing an harem Is extremely stressful. If anything Is EASiER in a big city, in small towns you barely meet Someone young, that's why you don't see chads there.

 

[Deleted member 21346]

Yes, the women all have the LA/Miami mindset that if theyre HTB+ they deserve a chad millionaire

Yeah, @forevermirin . Bro, I'm telling you. You don't fucking understand

Toronto is the same size as Boston / Chicago, and bitches here think that they're in NYC. It doesn't help that the average salary here is 65k (before taxes, after taxes we're talking 48k) a year with just under NYC levels of rent

 

[forevermirin]

LOL the jokes on you bitch boy, because I got matches from big bodied and robust West Virginia country white women. I'm coming for that green card you faggy curry bitch, currently living in the slums of Delhi.

Also, jfl, I don't show my teeth to anyone when I talk or smile / laugh. Oh, and my natural bite is uncomfortable. I have to kind of leave my jaw hanging while my month's closed, and that's my comfortable position for my jaw.

imma pack a bowl rn cant cope with your schizoid ramblings

 

[Deleted member 21700]

Jesus Christ. Does he need phenoplasthy?

Whenever I look at him, I always think he fits that dirty brown immigrant kid who's trying to fit in stereotypes. You know what I'm talking about, right?

Bruhhhhhh

 

[the BULL]

imma pack a bowl rn cant cope with your schizoid ramblings

I'm sure that if you go there it's the same as everywhere else
Many many subhumans and some posh IB chad and ig tatmaxxed chads
Those guys are more gullible than foids, they see some flashlights and think they're in the center of the universe

 

[hypernormie]

If anything makes you think how many ppl really use dating apps to meet
In a huge ass city with millions of girls and you got the same girls liking you

Yeah I’ve thought about it, it’s nuts.

there’s a Facebook group I’m yet to infiltrate called “are we dating the same guy” I reckon that group is a blackpill and a half because women will go on there and have multiple women who have input about the same guy.

In a city like NYC with a female population of 2.9m for that to happen means that a lot of those women are all fucking a small percentage of dudes.

There’s definitely a smaller percentage of women who use dating apps and all those women are following the expected pattern of behavior.

The rest are either not on apps or in relationships and don’t need to use apps. But the data suggests that they probably found those relationships on apps.

My ex used dating apps but she found a guy and got into a relationship pretty quick after we broke up. So there are also women who use dating apps and get off of them in shorter periods of time.

 

[Deleted member 21346]

imma pack a bowl rn cant cope with your schizoid ramblings

lol you're a fucking looser mate. you're literally not NT enough to go out on Holi, and you rot on here like the little scavenger bitch that you are.

also, jfl @ being in curryland at this time of the year and acting like you're gonna smoke a bowl

Fckn cali looser

 

[the BULL]

Yeah I’ve thought about it, it’s nuts.

there’s a Facebook group I’m yet to infiltrate called “are we dating the same guy” I reckon that group is a blackpill and a half because women will go on there and have multiple women who have input about the same guy.

In a city like NYC with a female population of 2.9m for that to happen means that a lot of those women are all fucking a small percentage of dudes.

There’s definitely a smaller percentage of women who use dating apps and all those women are following the expected pattern of behavior.

The rest are either not on apps or in relationships and don’t need to use apps. But the data suggests that they probably found those relationships on apps.

My ex used dating apps but she found a guy and got into a relationship pretty quick after we broke up. So there are also women who use dating apps and get off of them in shorter periods of time.

I think that with "online dating" ppl mean ig mainly
Where you text Someone you have already seen usually
I've done enough experiments to know that there Is no way 50% of ppl meet there, it's Always the same used up roast beef, gotta be waaaaaaaay lower than that if we count only swipe apps.

 

[Razeb]

Why y’all keep voting for Trudeau tho jfl

Ontario is fucking up whole country bcz Muh pronouns

Who cares if things are unaffordable and wages are low as long as people can change their gender View attachment 2106904

lmao 75k is wild, and it's all coming out of our taxes while grocery prices keep going up

 

[Deleted member 18522]

Avg young italian Is about 180 cms

They’re not that tall at all. North is 5’10 south 5’9 and this is for zoomers. Oldcels are short af in Italy

 

[Deleted member 24002]

lol you're a fucking looser mate. you're literally not NT enough to go out on Holi, and you rot on here like the little scavenger bitch that you are.

also, jfl @ being in curryland at this time of the year and acting like you're gonna smoke a bowl

Fckn cali looser

Drose you gotta chill bro. Youre going to become a meme on this site if you keep responding to people like this.

 

[hypernormie]

Yeah its the same in Toronto tho because Toronto is literally NYC-lite. Like you said NYC has the same amount of lifemoggers as Toronto too (investment bankers, lawyers, etc). Tbh thats so important Ito SMV as well, an HTN Wall Street banker is going to slay. Im only 18 so I dont even have to deal with that competition yet.

Yeah it’s brutal. I go on Hinge and NYC and it’s full of high class Stacy’s. I’m handsome but even I cant pull a lot of these women off of apps. Irl is different because I can use my personality to my advantage but online I’m in direct competition with dudes who have high status jobs listed on their profile. These women look like they’re used to money, and while it can all just be a facade, it’d be pretty hard to fake. If I wanted to bag the high class Stacy’s I see online I would have meet them in a bar or something and display overt dominance and generate attraction via my behavior. I’ve had more luck pulling women who are higher status than me irl than online. Online I’m limited to younger Stacy’s who don’t have high paying careers or are in college.

 

[the BULL]

They’re not that tall at all. North is 5’10 south 5’9 and this is for zoomers. Oldcels are short af in Italy

North Is 5.10.5" avg oldcels included
Only Dutch and Bosnia ppl have a full 1 inch advantage over other european countries but at the end of the day we're all tall here in europe

 

[Deleted member 21346]

Drose you gotta chill bro. Youre going to become a meme on this site if you keep responding to people like this.

What? No, I love @forevermirin . We just have our banter.

@forevermirin bro, just know that I'm joking and don't mean any of it. I think you're actually a great guy and you're very good looking too bro. I hope your journey in India ends up well and you safely return to the US too.


Don't take anything I say seriously, unless it's looksmaxxing advice. Even the shit about being HTN+. It's all a joke, and most of us here are joking anyways

 

[Deleted member 24002]

Yeah it’s brutal. I go on Hinge and NYC and it’s full of high class Stacy’s. I’m handsome but even I cant pull a lot of these women off of apps. Irl is different because I can use my personality to my advantage but online I’m in direct competition with dudes who have high status jobs listed on their profile. These women look like they’re used to money, and while it can all just be a facade, it’d be pretty hard to fake. If I wanted to bag the high class Stacy’s I see online I would have meet them in a bar or something and display overt dominance and generate attraction via my behavior. I’ve had more luck pulling women who are higher status than me irl than online. Online I’m limited to younger Stacy’s who don’t have high paying careers or are in college.

Honestly red pilled af, status>looks if you want to date high class women. Even if a guy is chad, if he works at the local gym handing out towels they dont give af, they at the very least want a guy making more money than them.

 

[forevermirin]

Honestly red pilled af, status>looks if you want to date high class women. Even if a guy is chad, if he works at the local gym handing out towels they dont give af, they at the very least want a guy making more money than them.

Not if they just tryna fuck. Unironically the HTN black gym trainers fuck every single Stacy buff bunny in the gym.

 

[hypernormie]

tbh I dont think you understand how high 7.5 PSL is.

Nah I do, 7.5 is basically model tier.

The way I see PSL is 7 is the point at which one can model but they will be a low tier model who gets infrequent work and can still be outcompeted by better looking men. 7 PSL is when people start to frequently take notice of your appearance as a significant factor of who you are and when your appearance starts becoming part of your identity. 8 PSL your appearance is usually the most significant factor of your identity and your above average appearance is evident to pretty much every person you interact with.

7.5 is right in between.

I believe myself to be 7 PSL because this is my experience. I can and have gotten signed to an agency before, aswell as have been scouted to audition for television but I lack some of the sharper features necessary to truly stand out in the modeling world. In some photos I look high tier normie but others I look top notch and striking. However I look much better in motion than I do in photos. Above 7 PSL you almost always look striking in photos and probably have a career that’s based around your physical appearance, or if you don’t, you easily could.

 

[Deleted member 24002]

Not if they just tryna fuck. Unironically the HTN black gym trainers fuck every single Stacy buff bunny in the gym.

I mean high class women in Toronto and NYC, not just Stacies in general. The type that look down on those who dont make at least 150k. Probably only prevalent in a few cities.

 

[hypernormie]

Jesus Christ.

So, in NYC, it's chadlite with maxxed-out life AT MINIMUM or death.

Nah blackpill is a bit of catastrophizing. You can get laid as a normie in NYC but you won’t slay on apps. You will need to be very NT and charismatic and most of your lays will come from irl interactions and social circle.

On apps though yeah you will need to be chadlite atleast to slay regular girls and low status Stacy’s and chadlite lifemaxxed to the gills to slay true Stacy’s.

 

[hypernormie]

fuck off retarded graycel

Do you live in NYC or do you just not understand PSL?

 

[hypernormie]

I think that with "online dating" ppl mean ig mainly
Where you text Someone you have already seen usually
I've done enough experiments to know that there Is no way 50% of ppl meet there, it's Always the same used up roast beef, gotta be waaaaaaaay lower than that if we count only swipe apps.

Yeah maybe people are just retarded and don’t understand what online dating is. However I would think they would specify dating apps.

 

[forevermirin]

I believe myself to be 7 PSL because this is my experience.

Do you live in NYC or do you just not understand PSL?

 

[hypernormie]

Honestly red pilled af, status>looks if you want to date high class women. Even if a guy is chad, if he works at the local gym handing out towels they dont give af, they at the very least want a guy making more money than them.

Kinda, he can work at a gym handing out towels but he’s gotta be a true Chad. Ie: looks, height, physique. Women still want to fuck hot guys but in NYC you’ve gotta have top tier looks to fuck high class Stacy’s as a poorcel.

 

[hypernormie]

@forevermirin have you ever been signed to a modeling agency or scouted for television based on your looks?

If that’s not at least 7 PSL than I’m either underrating myself or you are wrong.

 

[forevermirin]

I mean high class women in Toronto and NYC, not just Stacies in general. The type that look down on those who dont make at least 150k. Probably only prevalent in a few cities.

imo socal is much higher class overall than toronto or nyc, and the stacies here fantasize about gagging on bbc gym trainer cock 100%. why do they care about income level for hookups anyway as long as the dude isnt literally living in his car

 

[forevermirin]

@forevermirin have you ever been signed to a modeling agency or scouted for television based on your looks?

If that’s not at least 7 PSL than I’m either underrating myself or you are wrong.

so you're telling me you mog Zayn, Cavill and prime Johnny Depp and yet you're on this site whining about OLD?

somehow that's a bit hard to believe for me.

 

[hypernormie]

so you're telling me you mog Zayn, Cavill and prime Johnny Depp and yet you're on this site whining about OLD?

somehow that's a bit hard to believe for me.

No I don’t mog them but I’m going off the PSL charts I’ve seen.

Zayn is a 7, idk why people think he’s some mogger. Ive met models that look better than him. prime Cavill is an 8 and mogs both Zayn and Depp. Depp was a solid 7.

Of those 3 I’m closest to young Depp in facial structure and looks level but a bit more masculine.

I don’t mog any of them except perhaps Zayn who I think is overrated here.

 

[forevermirin]

No I don’t mog them but I’m going off the PSL charts I’ve seen.

Zayn is a 7, idk why people think he’s some mogger. Ive met models that look better than him. prime Cavill is an 8 and mogs both Zayn and Depp. Depp was a solid 7.

Of those 3 I’m closest to young Depp in facial structure and looks level but a bit more masculine.

I don’t mog any of them except perhaps Zayn who I think is overrated here.

ill say it more politely this time - you don't seem to understand psl ratings bhai. did you mean trm scale?

8 is maximum possible psl attainable, prime hexum is probably closest to it.

 

[hypernormie]

ill say it more politely this time - you don't seem to understand psl ratings bhai. did you mean trm scale?

8 is maximum possible psl attainable, prime hexum is probably closest to it.

Guess I’m a graycel fr

I’ve heard PSL maxes at 8 but I also see people going up to 9 on PSL charts so I assumed there wasn’t a consensus.

PSL max 8 seems ridiculous max 9 makes more sense to me but if you have threads that show me how that’s wrong I’d be happy to see them. I looked through BOTB and didn’t see anything that suggested that but maybe I missed it.

I don’t believe a 10 exists but to say 9’s don’t seems weird if 5 is average.

The way i see it, Hexum is a 9, ie: better looking than most supermodels who are 8’s who are better looking than most normie models who are 7’s who are better looking than most “good looking” guys who are 6’s who are just above average which is 5.

On your scale I definitely wouldn’t be a 7 but I’m not terribly worse looking than Depp. I get told a lot I should be an actor or model by strangers.

 

[forevermirin]

Guess I’m a graycel fr

I’ve heard PSL maxes at 8 but I also see people going up to 9 on PSL charts so I assumed there wasn’t a consensus.

PSL max 8 seems ridiculous max 9 makes more sense to me but if you have threads that show me how that’s wrong I’d be happy to see them. I looked through BOTB and didn’t see anything that suggested that but maybe I missed it.

I don’t believe a 10 exists but to say 9’s don’t seems weird if 5 is average.

The way i see it, Hexum is a 9, ie: better looking than most supermodels who are 8’s who are better looking than most normie models who are 7’s who are better looking than most “good looking” guys who are 6’s who are just above average which is 5.

On your scale I definitely wouldn’t be a 7 but I’m not terribly worse looking than Depp. I get told a lot I should be an actor or model by strangers.

you just described trm scale tbh. 5psl isn't average it's borderline chadlite.
here's a relevant post for you.

Complete Guide to PSL ratings

What are PSL RATINGS? PSL ratings were created as a way of being able to determine ones aesthetic value and applying beauty standards to a rating system, based on solely their face. The central idea behind PSL ratings is not purely finding ones SMV/appeal, but it can be better described as...

looksmax.org

(largely accurate apart from the autistic Ronaldo overrate)

 

[Deleted member 26802]

Jfl I already debunked this with my old account

MUH TORONTO IS HARD MODE JFL

@Blackgymmax has been going off on how Toronto is so hard jfl. I recently bought tinder passport so I can change my settings and shit. I changed my gender to woman show me men and changed to Toronto to see the top profiles. These mfs came up jfl :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::lul::lul::lul::lul: Jfl hexum...

looksmax.org

Also ran my tinder in Toronto and matched with very good looking white women

Also take into account I have 5’8 in my bio