Keto diet for lean face ?

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Glycogen stores around 3 grams of water for every 1 gram. We have muscles in our , with the biggest being the masseter muscle. If we restrict the amount of carbohydrate or assure that we burn the glucose through excercise , shouldn't we have less water in the face , thus less bloating and a leaner face ? Or do you think , that the amount of water held in the muscles is negligible due to small size of those facial muscles ?
 
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it will make you feel like shit so its not worth it, brain fog, tired all the time
 
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it will make you feel like shit so its not worth it, brain fog, tired all the time
99% of world population (me too) is just simply used and almost addicted to carbs . But in theory it should help with bloating , the only thing is , that I don't know how much the water weight in those tiny muscles affect fave
 
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Yes it does. But keto alone is only half way there, carnivore (a subset of keto, restricted to animal based food) is the most based diet for leanness
 
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If you want diabetes and heart disease, yes, keto is a great choice
 
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Yes it does. But keto alone is only half way there, carnivore (a subset of keto, restricted to animal based food) is the most based diet for leanness
Bullshit, carnivore diet is fucking unnatural no human population save for eskimos adapted to eat meat only.
If you want diabetes and heart disease, yes, keto is a great choice
That’s assuming your eating fried junk food. KETO diet lowers your insulin sensitivity which LOWERS THE CHANCES OF DIABETIES. Fat itself is not bad in fact fat food helps the body operate keep eating your carbs like a Wally, only bad fats are trans fats which’s re manmade suprise surprise.

Carbs spike insulin which makes your body go into storage mode, fat foods that aren’t manmade does not spike insulin and therefore is good. Protien has a 19% insulin spike with fat only having 3% it’s by far best diet for being lean and health
 
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I’m on KETO rn, along with intermittent fasting and normal fasting, I can tell you it works very well. It’s hard the first week but after that trust me you’ll get used to it, I eat legit once a day now and it’s legit second nature to me I don’t have to think about it, and after two weeks your sugar cravings plummet
 
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That’s assuming your eating fried junk food. KETO diet lowers your insulin sensitivity which LOWERS THE CHANCES OF DIABETIES. Fat itself is not bad in fact fat food helps the body operate keep eating your carbs like a Wally, only bad fats are trans fats which’s re manmade suprise surprise.

Carbs spike insulin which makes your body go into storage mode, fat foods that aren’t manmade does not spike insulin and therefore is good. Protien has a 19% insulin spike with fat only having 3% it’s by far best diet for being lean and health
Running off fat = metabolic stress, son
 
Running off fat = metabolic stress, son
No because humans are adapted to run off fat… it’s literally what we evolved to run off. Carbs are detrimental to our health due to the fact that humans cannot handle the stress of a high carb based lifestyle unless it involves intense stress on the body like being a farmer working on the field sod 12 hours a day. Most people sit on their arse so they will get diabeties and liver failure due to consuming carbs
 
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Carbs cause intracellular bloat, thats way different from extracelular bloat (which would be in between the skin layer of your face and th muscles). Glycogen gets stored with water INSIDE your muscles. So in fact it changes nothing if not at least making you look leaner because the more bloated muscles stretch out your skin more giving you a more slick look.

As a med student seeing this carb misconception and creatine misconception about bloating makes me so mad holy shit :feelskek:.

LOW SALT or arrhythmical salt intake is what causes subcutaneous bloat. NOT carbs, creatine or regular salt intake
 
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No because humans are adapted to run off fat… it’s literally what we evolved to run off. Carbs are detrimental to our health due to the fact that humans cannot handle the stress of a high carb based lifestyle unless it involves intense stress on the body like being a farmer working on the field sod 12 hours a day. Most people sit on their arse so they will get diabeties and liver failure due to consuming carbs
Not true :feelskek:, diabetes is caused mostly by high stress and genetics. My father got diabetes in his 40's from stress when he lost his parents, while my mom who is overweight and eats carbs every day has excellent blood sugar levels. My uncle eats straight up sugar cubes and the most unhealthy sugar snacks on the planet yet has completely normal blood sugar levels at 53.

Diabetes is related to cortisol
 
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Carbs cause intracellular bloat, thats way different from extracelular bloat (which would be in between the skin layer of your face and th muscles). Glycogen gets stored with water INSIDE your muscles. So in fact it changes nothing if not at least making you look leaner because the more bloated muscles stretch out your skin more giving you a more slick look.

As a med student seeing this carb misconception and creatine misconception about bloating makes me so mad holy shit :feelskek:.

LOW SALT or arrhythmical salt intake is what causes subcutaneous bloat. NOT carbs, creatine or regular salt intake
Why do I seem to get more vascular a couple hours after eating lots of salt and carbs, but the next day I'm bloated?
 
Not true :feelskek:, diabetes is caused mostly by high stress and genetics. My father got diabetes in his 40's from stress when he lost his parents, while my mom who is overweight and eats carbs every day has excellent blood sugar levels. My uncle eats straight up sugar cubes and the most unhealthy sugar snacks on the planet yet has completely normal blood sugar levels at 53.

Diabetes is related to cortisol
diabetes = inability to oxidize glucose

so anything that interferes with the glucose metabolism, aka keto, leads to diabetes-like symptoms.
 
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You should follow the ray peat diet instead. Cured my acne by drinking ginger ale with carrot juice
 
Why do I seem to get more vascular a couple hours after eating lots of salt and carbs, but the next day I'm bloated?
The reasons i mentioned, carbs pump up your muscles. For example if you do a cut and reach 10% bf and you can clearly see your abs and all, then if you start doing a lean bulk you are going to look noticeably leaner and bigger then before and your abs will show even more the while on a cut, veins too from the blood pressure getting elevated by the carbs and salt.

Salt is a complicated topic. Salt doesn't bloat you f you regularly intake the same high amount, low salt will bloat you or irregular salt intake.

Can't be bothered to write a whole renal physiology text right now but in tldr: low salt bloats you more because your body wll try to conserve as much salt as possible and it will release hormones for this purpose, it will desperately try to hold onto salt in your kidneys, but salt and water have opposite charge, and the sodium ions pull water with them in your body so water get held more too. Now if your salt intake is irregular, like you eat 2g of salt for 3 days straight and then eat like 7-8g the 4th day (some fast food binge) it will bloat you significantly because your body has the hormones ready for your typical low salt intake, it isn't expecting you to take in so much salt out of nowhere. But if you continue to eat the same high amount of salt your body will shut down the hormones and excess salt with water will start free flowing through your sweat and urine.
 
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Not true :feelskek:, diabetes is caused mostly by high stress and genetics. My father got diabetes in his 40's from stress when he lost his parents, while my mom who is overweight and eats carbs every day has excellent blood sugar levels. My uncle eats straight up sugar cubes and the most unhealthy sugar snacks on the planet yet has completely normal blood sugar levels at 53.

Diabetes is related to cortisol
Yes do you know why? Because cortisol spikes insulin. And do you know what else has a 100% insulin spike? CARBS, this is why if you do EAT carbs you should do it on intermittent fasting like me so you go 18-20 hours of and become sensitive which is good. Also genetics 🧬 plays a role I have very good heart levels top 5% in my nation despite the fact I lived of KFC for an entire year
diabetes = inability to oxidize glucose

so anything that interferes with the glucose metabolism, aka keto, leads to diabetes-like symptoms.
Wrong, KETO only has the “KETO” flu for like one week or 2 JFL. KETO gets you off the drug that is carbs (yes it is basically a drug) and you want less so much so that even bitter dark chocolate is satisfying. It is legit the only extreme diet that make sense, carnivore diet is retarded, raw meat diet is even more retarded, veganism is stupid, paleo diet is ok and vegetarian diet is also ok
 
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Wrong, KETO only has the “KETO” flu for like one week or 2 JFL. KETO gets you off the drug that is carbs (yes it is basically a drug) and you want less so much so that even bitter dark chocolate is satisfying.
Keto = burning fat

Burning fat = metabolism of stress that leads to degeneration

Need I simplify more for your sugar starved brain? :owo:
 
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Nah bro i stayed bloated during and after doing keto for over a month.
 
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Keto = burning fat

Burning fat = metabolism of stress that leads to degeneration

Need I simplify more for your sugar starved brain? :owo:
Yes “burning fat” and you never run out as your mostly eating fat so you don’t get stressed JFL XD. KETO is like a log of wood cooking fire slowly, keep eating carbs which is like throwing Gasoline over a fire
 
Yes do you know why? Because cortisol spikes insulin. And do you know what else has a 100% insulin spike? CARBS, this is why if you do EAT carbs you should do it on intermittent fasting like me so you go 18-20 hours of and become sensitive which is good. Also genetics 🧬 plays a role I have very good heart levels top 5% in my nation despite the fact I lived of KFC for an entire year

Wrong, KETO only has the “KETO” flu for like one week or 2 JFL. KETO gets you off the drug that is carbs (yes it is basically a drug) and you want less so much so that even bitter dark chocolate is satisfying. It is legit the only extreme diet that make sense, carnivore diet is retarded, raw meat diet is even more retarded, veganism is stupid, paleo diet is ok and vegetarian diet is also ok
Keto a technically natural but it isn't ideal, cortisol is higher, thyroid hormones are lower, protein synthesis is lower etc.
 
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The reasons i mentioned, carbs pump up your muscles. For example if you do a cut and reach 10% bf and you can clearly see your abs and all, then if you start doing a lean bulk you are going to look noticeably leaner and bigger then before and your abs will show even more the while on a cut, veins too from the blood pressure getting elevated by the carbs and salt.

Salt is a complicated topic. Salt doesn't bloat you f you regularly intake the same high amount, low salt will bloat you or irregular salt intake.

Can't be bothered to write a whole renal physiology text right now but in tldr: low salt bloats you more because your body wll try to conserve as much salt as possible and it will release hormones for this purpose, it will desperately try to hold onto salt in your kidneys, but salt and water have opposite charge, and the sodium ions pull water with them in your body so water get held more too. Now if your salt intake is irregular, like you eat 2g of salt for 3 days straight and then eat like 7-8g the 4th day (some fast food binge) it will bloat you significantly because your body has the hormones ready for your typical low salt intake, it isn't expecting you to take in so much salt out of nowhere. But if you continue to eat the same high amount of salt your body will shut down the hormones and excess salt with water will start free flowing through your sweat and urine.
Right, the key to avoiding bloat from salt is consistently eating the same amount each day.
 
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Yes “burning fat” and you never run out as your mostly eating fat so you don’t get stressed JFL XD. KETO is like a log of wood cooking fire slowly, keep eating carbs which is like throwing Gasoline over a fire
Ok, you let me know what happens after a few months.
 
Right, the key to avoiding bloat from salt is consistently eating the same amount each day.
The misconception about salt is from normal people who aren't gymcel orthorexics like me who eat random food every day, their hormones are never stable so they get super bloated from salt being retained. Your body naturally shuts down those hormones when it knows you are taking enough salt every day
 
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Carbs cause intracellular bloat, thats way different from extracelular bloat (which would be in between the skin layer of your face and th muscles). Glycogen gets stored with water INSIDE your muscles. So in fact it changes nothing if not at least making you look leaner because the more bloated muscles stretch out your skin more giving you a more slick look.

As a med student seeing this carb misconception and creatine misconception about bloating makes me so mad holy shit :feelskek:.

LOW SALT or arrhythmical salt intake is what causes subcutaneous bloat. NOT carbs, creatine or regular salt intake
I’ve stopped salting any of my food like a year ago, have been relying on the naturally occuring salt content in the food I eat (meat, dairy, eggs) since then. I have zero bloat tbh
 
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Carbs cause intracellular bloat, thats way different from extracelular bloat (which would be in between the skin layer of your face and th muscles). Glycogen gets stored with water INSIDE your muscles. So in fact it changes nothing if not at least making you look leaner because the more bloated muscles stretch out your skin more giving you a more slick look.

As a med student seeing this carb misconception and creatine misconception about bloating makes me so mad holy shit :feelskek:.

LOW SALT or arrhythmical salt intake is what causes subcutaneous bloat. NOT carbs, creatine or regular salt intake
Bro are you 100% sure , because of carbs don't cause the face bloating , I would stop this 0 carbs bs ans eat a donut rb
 
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Bro are you 100% sure , because of carbs don't cause the face bloating , I would stop this 0 carbs bs ans eat a donut rb
100% sure
 
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Carbs cause intracellular bloat, thats way different from extracelular bloat (which would be in between the skin layer of your face and th muscles). Glycogen gets stored with water INSIDE your muscles. So in fact it changes nothing if not at least making you look leaner because the more bloated muscles stretch out your skin more giving you a more slick look.

As a med student seeing this carb misconception and creatine misconception about bloating makes me so mad holy shit :feelskek:.

LOW SALT or arrhythmical salt intake is what causes subcutaneous bloat. NOT carbs, creatine or regular salt intake
This is indeed correct, and the reason people connect carbs with bloating is because the carby foods in question always happen to be the ones with zero nutritional value, and lots of negative attributes.

A banana that is basically 30 percent carbs, will no way bloat your face. However a muffin, or hamburger that contains a shit ton of gluten, salt, sugar and fats will result in inflammation, give your GI tract a hard time, and people will ignorantly blame the carbs because they are unknowledgeable
 
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This is indeed correct, and the reason people connect carbs with bloating is because the carby foods in question always happen to be the ones with zero nutritional value, and lots of negative attributes.

A banana that is basically 30 percent carbs, will no way bloat your face. However a muffin, or hamburger that contains a shit ton of gluten, salt, sugar and fats will result in inflammation, give your GI tract a hard time, and people will ignorantly blame the carbs because they are unknowledgeable
So you say , that the water stored in glycogen (3g water in 1 g glycogen) in our small facial muscles is not enough to cause bloating ? One user already said it won't cause bloating
 
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Keto a technically natural but it isn't ideal, cortisol is higher, thyroid hormones are lower, protein synthesis is lower etc.
Cortisol isn’t higher on Keto, your body synthesise protein the exact same way infact as I told many people here your body is naturally more adapted for fat than carbs, carbs before agriculture was super rare and that’s why it’s a drug your body REALLY cherishes Carbs due to its scarcity hence the sweet rewarding taste associated with it. The problem is carbs are stored as fat due to insulin resistance as it spikes insulin. Fat in the other hand is used as fuel instead as it only spikes insulin at 3%. Protein is 19% BUT fatty protein is the ideal one to have.

Curries and East Asians have been eating nothing but carbs for so long and look at their subhuman bodies and frames. Now west Africans do also consume a lot of carbs in the form of a gloopy playdo looking ball but this doesn’t effect them as badly due to their propensity to maintain low body fat and high working environment which burns off calories. Same for European Peasants they drank 800kcal of beer a day but due to working 12 hours a day they legit used all that glue cose. Modern people don’t work nowhere near that much and THUS do not neeed to consume carbs as much
 
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