Korean girl thirsty for her Chang brother

[Deleted member 62811]

MEANWHILE HE GETS DICKMOGGED BY HIM

Spoiler: HIM

 

[einzigartig]

maybe not for a small minority of height-obsessed girls, but for most It's more than enough, .org has really distorted the perception of height that there are legit MFs who think they are barely making it at 6'2

sure being taller than that is better but it's only a minor boost until you are capped at 6'5 (any taller than this is unnecessary)

are you a preacher of height > face btw?

 

[Latinus]

Giga Chang.

 

[Deleted member 21716]

All young females are bisexual bro, they like other women to. Most guys don’t have masc bone structure so the next best thing is to appeal to their lesbian side that all young women have. skinny body, pale smooth skin without hair, fluffy long hair, becoming a twink works and is not gay

you've seen my face

do you think I have twink/feminine appeal?

 

[Deleted member 21716]

also Chang

 

[shabby890]

6'2 maybe tall for Korean
Mediocre for Dongyi
I see asians bigger than him daily

 

[FastBananaCEO]

Chang put in all that effort and even then the best he can get is a LTB kpop fan probably

 

[Deleted member 21716]

6'2 maybe tall for Korean
Mediocre for Dongyi
I see asians bigger than him daily

my ex gf's brother was larger than him

he was 6'4 and built like a tank

 

[hypernormie]

You get it. I want to spread this notion that it's really fucking hard to confer sense of size through a computer monitor. The heightmog is something that is experienced IRL, and being this 7' Asian dude must fill you with such confidence from your mass alone.


That NarrowBones poster has some sort of mental disorder and is actually very good looking. He posts himself on the Ratings subforum, so you can judge for yourself. I would not be on this website wasting time if I looked like that.

Yeah size really doesn’t translate over the screen

Some tall bodybuilder who was obv on steroids showed up at my gym once and it changed my whole perspective on the topic

I’ve seen tons of bodybuilders online who are huge but seeing it in person was a whole different experience. The size coupled with leanness was unlike anything I’ve ever witnessed. I wouldn’t say it was particularly sexually attractive to be as big as he was but it definitely had an effect on people.

When I used to model I would go to castings surrounded by tall, fit chads and there’s a creeping sense of inferiority that sets in when everybody around you is 3-5 inches taller than you. If I as a man who didn’t particularly care about my height or theirs and consciously worked to mitigate this feeling, still felt that creeping subconscious anxiety, women will notice it 10x more in their presence because they are even shorter in stature.

Why do you think women care so much about height? It’s because it immediately signals dominance, even subconsciously. There are studies on it too that measure people’s responses to being around others of various heights in manipulated VR environments. Being surrounded by taller people has an effect on the mind subconsciously that is beyond conscious awareness.

The blackpill trend of caring primarily about internet validation is getting out of control. Some of these dudes are really chronically online as much as I hate to use that term. I went through the whole PUA phase to realize a lot of this stuff but it seems a lot of guys never went through that and lack the sufficient irl redpill experiences to balance blackpill realities.

There are tons of facets that can alter perception irl that are not easily translated online. Voice timber, depth and loudness is another one. Some people’s voicing are so deep, loud and rumbling that you can’t help but notice it when they talk. This is something that is strongly minimized when listening to someone talk through a microphone.

Things like willingness to take up space in your environment is another one. In a packed bar or club, something as minor as one’s way of navigating that space or positioning in that space communicates a lot of information that is not present in an internet video. Micro mannerisms and reactions to others behaviors are also lost.

There are tons of dudes on the internet that have clout that do not get the same responses irl. Put these dudes in an environment where they have to directly compete with others who may have more dominant or socially savvy personalities and their appeal is drastically lowered. Marketers know this and use this all the time when selling products. Isolating your target audience and reducing the effect of direct competition is a very effective method of closing sales. PUA’s even know this and use the term isolating in this way. However this method is very effective on the internet where you can heavily curate how people perceive you. You may have flaws but on the internet no one else ever has to see them because they will only ever see what you want them to see.

There’s that study I remember that shows dominance is more strongly correlated to sexual success than attractiveness. Women’s ratings of male attractiveness had very little to do with that males actual sexual success. This is a phenomenon that is highlighted on the internet. There may be tons of women who view you as attractive but As we already know, that doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

 

[Lookologist003]

There may be tons of women who view you as attractive but As we already know, that doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

Can't argue with that. It must be the reason why attractive guys can still get the 'ick', like if they're seen being beaten up, or drastically heightmogged.

Why do you think women care so much about height? It’s because it immediately signals dominance

I accept this, but my belief is that height is a measure of your bones, and women love bones and want to be boned by the biggest bones.

women will notice it 10x more in their presence because they are even shorter in stature.

And because they are choosing who to go halves on a baby with. If we can sense it, it must be like being splashed with cold water as a woman or something.

This is an appropriate point to acknowledge the hellish plight of manlets that they are eternally damned to. Try to imagine having that feeling of being mogged, but each time you are passed on the street. I couldn't cope if that was me.

 

[Phanese]

So what are you saying, be twink or be an ogre all young women will like you?

Women in their youth/prime are attracted to prettyboys. Women 35+ are atttacted to more masculine.

 

[hypernormie]

Women in their youth/prime are attracted to prettyboys. Women 35+ are atttacted to more masculine.

Not true

The majority of women are attracted to masculinity it’s just that young people are generally not all that masculine, especially not nowadays, so this gives the illusion they aren’t interested in masculinity when the reality is they are just more interested in men in their age range and desire beauty (along with masculinity) which is more common in youth.

Women want both masculinity and beauty (and such things are correlated btw)

It’s just that young women also prefer men who are also young so long as those men express sufficient dominance.

This is why high school and college athletes who are more masculine than their counterparts receive so much female attention. The jock getting all the girls is not a fabricated stereotype, it’s true and the jock is portrayed as a masculine figure relative to his peers which is the reason he receives the attention.

The best is to be both masculine and beautiful but absent masculinity women will settle for beauty over neither.

Beauty though is a slightly stronger signal to genetic quality than masculinity because a good face is harder to achieve than a good body.

For this reason practically all women prefer beauty slightly but not at the expense of masculinity. Older women prefer masculinity more directly for reproductive reasons and the fact that beauty fades with age so masculinity becomes the next best signal of genetic quality.

 

[Phanese]

Not true

The majority of women are attracted to masculinity it’s just that young people are generally not all that masculine, especially not nowadays, so this gives the illusion they aren’t interested in masculinity when the reality is they are just more interested in men in their age range and desire beauty (along with masculinity) which is more common in youth.

Women want both masculinity and beauty (and such things are correlated btw)

It’s just that young women also prefer men who are also young so long as those men express sufficient dominance.

This is why high school and college athletes who are more masculine than their counterparts receive so much female attention. The jock getting all the girls is not a fabricated stereotype, it’s true and the jock is portrayed as a masculine figure relative to his peers which is the reason he receives the attention.

The best is to be both masculine and beautiful but absent masculinity women will settle for beauty over neither.

Beauty though is a slightly stronger signal to genetic quality than masculinity because a good face is harder to achieve than a good body.

For this reason practically all women prefer beauty slightly but not at the expense of masculinity. Older women prefer masculinity more directly for reproductive reasons and the fact that beauty fades with age so masculinity becomes the next best signal of genetic quality.

Prettyboys are the prince charmings that girls daydream about, write in diaries about.

They have a high trust feature while still being atttractive & balance masculinity & femininity which is ideal. The most sought after celebs are all pretty boys. Justin Bieber, One direction, Kpop. Biggest fandoms.

Masculine male artists dont have the same appeal. Notice how it's just men giving masculine men praise, especially in Bodybuilding.

Many interviews & confessions show girls rather have a skinmy lanky prettyboy or a dad bod when they get older. Men's delusion is thinking women are attracted to meatheads, they look unhealthy. The same delusion for women when they think biggest breast & butt are attractive when it's all harmony & proportion. Slim arms, slim waist with a c cup & nice ass is ideal.

 

[hypernormie]

Prettyboys are the prince charmings that girls daydream about, write in diaries about.

They have a high trust feature while still being atttractive & balance masculinity & femininity which is ideal. The most sought after celebs are all pretty boys. Justin Bieber, One direction, Kpop. Biggest fandoms.

Masculine male artists dont have the same appeal. Notice how it's just men giving masculine men praise, especially in Bodybuilding.

Many interviews & confessions show girls rather have a skinmy lanky prettyboy or a dad bod when they get older. Men's delusion is thinking women are attracted to meatheads, they look unhealthy. The same delusion for women when they think biggest breast & butt are attractive when it's all harmony & proportion. Slim arms, slim waist with a c cup & nice ass is ideal.

It’s the difference between irl and the internet

The appeal of masculinity which is physical size is mostly lost when viewing it on a phone screen so I don’t tend to care too much about what girls thirst after online

The other thing is these people you mention aren’t just prettyboys, they are famous high status musicians

A lot of these dudes would not get pussy if they weren’t famous, rich and made music

In irl environments typical masthetic chads are what women thirst over

In environments which most directly signal average female sexual interest such as dating apps, masthetic chads reign supreme

There are reasons prettyboys do so well on social media and it’s not because they are preferable to chads, it’s because they are on social media, which is an environment where they can play to their strengths

Go to any club and tell me if the 5’10 angelic prettyboy is outstaying the 6’5 jacked HTN with a full sleeve tattoo assuming they are both equally extroverted and socially adept

 

[hypernormie]

Prettyboys are the prince charmings that girls daydream about, write in diaries about.

They have a high trust feature while still being atttractive & balance masculinity & femininity which is ideal. The most sought after celebs are all pretty boys. Justin Bieber, One direction, Kpop. Biggest fandoms.

Masculine male artists dont have the same appeal. Notice how it's just men giving masculine men praise, especially in Bodybuilding.

Many interviews & confessions show girls rather have a skinmy lanky prettyboy or a dad bod when they get older. Men's delusion is thinking women are attracted to meatheads, they look unhealthy. The same delusion for women when they think biggest breast & butt are attractive when it's all harmony & proportion. Slim arms, slim waist with a c cup & nice ass is ideal.

Also there is a degree of intimidation and anti slut defense that is going on with male bodybuilders though I agree this isn’t an ideal level of masculinity

Women don’t want to be caught thirsty for the primitive sexual appeal of male dominance

This is why there’s the saying “don’t listen to what women say, watch what they do.” And while they aren’t doing anything in this scenario, the discrepancy in their irl reactions to these types of men and their lack of it online tells you a little bit about what’s probably going on

It’s much safer for a woman to publically signal attraction for a less threatening male especially online where anybody can see it

Masthetic DOM type guys generate a deeper level of sexual attraction in women which they are more hesitant to openly express for hypergamy reasons

Blatantly expressing that she prefers the top % male can exclude opportunities with lower value males who may see this and resent her for it

However irl this issue is far less of a concern because irl she actually has the opportunity with that male and then the costs of other potential fallback males feeling slighted by her attraction for another man mean far less because she is now betting more on the possibility of actually being with that man. Irl the value proposition changes and becomes skewed in the man’s favor. She is no longer expressing attraction with very little upside but now has an immediate and tangible upside to expressing that attraction which is potential securing that man as a mate.

It’s another reason a lot of guys talk about getting mogged. They will be in a situation with their girl and some mogger comes a long and her whole attitude shifts. She wouldn’t be caught dead expressing her desires for this kind of male on the internet when she has a boyfriend, but when in the physical presence of one of these men, this all changes

Another reason for this attitude shift is the one I said before. A large part of these men’s appeal is their physical presence which often is much more potent than when viewed through a screen

It’s the same reason these guys succeed more in private like on dating apps where women can openly express the preference for them without the fear of being judged or facing social consequences for their attraction

 

[Phanese]

It’s the difference between irl and the internet

The appeal of masculinity which is physical size is mostly lost when viewing it on a phone screen so I don’t tend to care too much about what girls thirst after online

The other thing is these people you mention aren’t just prettyboys, they are famous high status musicians

A lot of these dudes would not get pussy if they weren’t famous, rich and made music

In irl environments typical masthetic chads are what women thirst over

In environments which most directly signal average female sexual interest such as dating apps, masthetic chads reign supreme

There are reasons prettyboys do so well on social media and it’s not because they are preferable to chads, it’s because they are on social media, which is an environment where they can play to their strengths

Go to any club and tell me if the 5’10 angelic prettyboy is outstaying the 6’5 jacked HTN with a full sleeve tattoo assuming they are both equally extroverted and socially adept

If a girl gets with a Masculine man, she'll use him for resources & rough casual sex. She'll expect him to fully provide, protect & will look down on him for showing any emotion. Since masculinity is his main trait. Everything is transactional, the love is not really there & fragile if he cant provide.

With prettyboys, women will simp for him. Feel easily emotionally connected to him, his cuteness will make her have empathy. She'll more likely split the bill 50/50, give him massages, cook the best meals & do her best to please him. She will talk to him about everything like a bestfriend & make love passionately. She will be obcessed with him & the relationship will be cute. He can cry & she'll actually feel bad for him. Pretty boys have the perfect life.

 

[hypernormie]

If a girl gets with a Masculine man, she'll use him for resources & rough casual sex. She'll expect him to fully provide, protect & will look down on him for showing any emotion. Since masculinity is his main trait. Everything is transactional, the love is not really there & fragile if he cant provide.

With prettyboys, women will simp for him. Feel easily emotionally connected to him, his cuteness will make her have empathy. She'll more likely split the bill 50/50, give him massages, cook the best meals & do her best to please him. She will talk to him about everything like a bestfriend & make love passionately. She will be obcessed with him & the relationship will be cute. He can cry & she'll actually feel bad for him. Pretty boys have the perfect life.

I mean yeah maybe in some isolated environment being beautiful is probably better but we don’t live in isolated environments. The reality is we live in a world of scarce resources and competition so while the woman may feel more automatic endearment for the beautiful male, that can only go so far. I actually agree with you that if competition didn’t exist, it would be best to be beautiful, but competition does exist so when we are talking about what women prefer in reality, we have to factor that in.

I agree with you that if someone had to choose one, they would be generally better off choosing beauty. The problem is, most men are not in a position to choose. Most men cannot become beautiful no matter how hard they try. The next best thing then is to develop masculinity. One should strive to be as beautiful as they can but it’s far harder to become more beautiful than average than it is to become more masculine than average.

there was that study that showed female preference had little effect on sexual success because however much women prefer beauty, at the end of the day those men are competing for those women and beauty has limited value in competition. Women evolved to prefer masculinity along with beauty probably because masculinity as well as beauty both signal similar things. A sickly person will not be able to sustain a vascular and lean musculature with red undertones.

That’s basically what I’m saying. Theoretically being beautiful is better but realistically most men cannot influence their level of beauty enough to significantly impact their life so they might as well develop masculinity which will also carry its own unique benefits.

 

[Phanese]

They say when a man is truly in love with a woman, he acts like a child & when a woman is truly in love, she'll act like a mother. The reason why children & pets are shown more unconditional love comes down to cuteness. Unfortunately most men are not cute enough to experience this kind of love.

If you look too masculine without any cuteness & act stoic all the time, you wont build a bond with women to where they care for u. And when ur down, they're tell you to man up. Having soft features & personality with a balance of masculinity is a plus as a man. Balance is key. Dont act too desperate & be masculine but also cute & soft at times. Keep them on their toes long enough to where they feel like they earned your love, people appreciate things that they feel like they earned not things that they get so easily.

Womens emotions are all over the place & many have multiple guy friends that each give her a sense of something. If you could provide a sufficient amount of each, you'll stand out as the most balanced one. Pretty boys slay because they have the perfect balance & can be described as hot, beautiful, handsome, cute, charming. And they can recieve closer to the level of love that children & animals get.

But there are issues sometimes. Some women with insecurities have a fear that the guy she's with may be too beautiful which makes her look bad in comparison. Which is why some women prefer masculine men more because he doesnt mog her in beauty so she can still feel like the pretty one. But, if looks matched, this would be less of an issue. And some guys look too beautiful which looks almost alien. Like opry or barret, usually it's the light eyes that cause this effect. Which is why prime Chico usually takes the cake as PSL god. He doesnt look too alien.

 

[hypernormie]

They say when a man is truly in love with a woman, he acts like a child & when a woman is truly in love, she'll act like a mother. The reason why children & pets are shown more unconditional love comes down to cuteness. Unfortunately most men are not cute enough to experience this kind of love.

If you look too masculine without any cuteness & act stoic all the time, you wont build a bond with women to where they care for u. And when ur down, they're tell you to man up. Having soft features & personality with a balance of masculinity is a plus as a man. Balance is key. Dont act too desperate & be masculine but also cute & soft at times. Keep them on their toes long enough to where they feel like they earned your love, people appreciate things that they feel like they earned not things that they get so easily.

Womens emotions are all over the place & many have multiple guy friends that each give her a sense of something. If you could provide a sufficient amount of each, you'll stand out as the most balanced one. Pretty boys slay because they have the perfect balance & can be described as hot, beautiful, handsome, cute, charming. And they can recieve closer to the level of love that children & animals get.

But there are issues sometimes. Some women with insecurities have a fear that the guy she's with may be too beautiful which makes her look bad in comparison. Which is why some women prefer masculine men more because he doesnt mog her in beauty so she can still feel like the pretty one. But, if looks matched, this would be less of an issue. And some guys look too beautiful which looks almost alien. Like opry or barret, usually it's the light eyes that cause this effect. Which is why prime Chico usually takes the cake as PSL god. He doesnt look too alien.

I agree, I just think it’s less attainable for the average man compared to masculinity.

Most guys don’t have the facial structure to get away with femininity. For a beautiful man femininity will be perceived very differently than with an ugly or average man.

I’ve seen it myself. At my old job there were a bunch of dudes that tried to pull off the TikTok eboy aesthetic but were not good looking enough to do it successfully and it just made them look like clowns. Those men would have fared much better by just accepting that they weren’t ever going to be GL eboys and just leaned into developing masculinity instead.

A factor you aren’t considering is other men. I respected these dudes a lot less for trying to be pretty boys when they weren’t than I would’ve if they just accepted they weren’t and atleast were men.

By trying to be prettyboys as average men they were neither prettyboys nor manly which is a net loss. If you can get away with being a pretty boy then by all means go for it but if you can’t, it actually hurts you more to try.

Women ideally want both but I will concede on that point that with young women it’s generally better to be beautiful though I think I already said that in an earlier reply.