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I been on mk-677 and ai aromasin for 1 year no height gains am age 20 so plates probably closed, what would you guys recommend as the last cope stack if i had a infinite budget? LL dosen't count sorry

going to try stack below
and BMP Compounds from Russian Star
 
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Did you see any face changes? like a broader skull or anything ?
 
CJC 1295, Hexarelin
 
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did those two :(
Did you see any face changes? like a broader skull or anything ?
no but skull needs like 10iu daily for a while to grow
 
thank you! will try stack above and BMP-7 OR BMP2
 
thank you! will try stack above and BMP-7 OR BMP2
PM me if you find any legit sources for those, I'm interested to their effect on height.
(RussianStar seems sketchy)
 
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Try taking GEN-ET1CS
 
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Show me proof it amputates your legs pappy
no more larping on my threads srs, no woah just take genetics boyo type shet
 
If ai and mk677 did nothing and you're 20 it's over.
 
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I was taking 30mg of mk and AI aromasin every 6x days
one last cope cycle tho! before taking LL pill

should I be taking aromasin every other day at 25mg?
I will end BMP-7 copes by injecting into clavs and legs coming soon pappies
 
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I was taking 30mg of mk and AI aromasin every 6x days
one last cope cycle tho! before taking LL pill

should I be taking aromasin every other day at 25mg?
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A few posters here shill for it. I highly doubt they've used it themselves.

Does it work?

For the purposes he describes (growth of long bones such as clavicles, femur & tibiae), almost certainly not

It's true that BMP-7 is on par with BMP-2 as the most effective means of inducing chondrogenic differentiation in mesenchymal stem cells, which would result in longitudinal bone growth

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17502159

Quote:OBJECTIVE:

In a recent study, we demonstrated that mesenchymal stem cells (MSCs) derived from the synovial membranes of bovine shoulder joints could differentiate into chondrocytes when cultured in alginate. The purpose of the present study was to establish the conditions under which synovial MSCs derived from aging human donors can be induced to undergo chondrogenic differentiation using the same alginate system.

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RESULTS:

BMP-2 induced the chondrogenic differentiation of human synovial MSCs in a dose-dependent manner. The response elicited by BMP-7 was comparable. Both of these agents were more potent than TGF-beta1. A higher level of BMP-2-induced chondrogenic differentiation was achieved in the absence than in the presence of serum. In the presence of dexamethasone, the BMP-2-induced expression of mRNAs for aggrecan and type-II collagen was suppressed; the weaker TGF-beta1-induced expression of these chondrogenic markers was not obviously affected.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9599038

Quote:The objective of this study was to examine in vitro the influence of recombinant human osteogenic protein-1 [rhOP-1, or bone morphogenetic protein-7 (BMP-7)] on cartilage formation by human and goat perichondrium tissue containing progenitor cells with chondrogenic potential. Fragments of outer ear perichondrium tissue were embedded in clotting autologous blood to which rhOP-1 had been added or not added (controls), and the resulting explant was cultured for 3 weeks without further addition of rhOP-1. Cartilage formation was monitored biochemically by measuring [35S]-sulphate incorporation into proteoglycans and histologically by monitoring the presence of metachromatic matrix with cells in nests. The presence of rhOP-1 in the explant at the beginning of culture stimulated [35S]-sulphate incorporation into proteoglycans in a dose-dependent manner after 3 weeks of culture. Maximal stimulation was reached at 40 microg/mL (human explants: +148%; goat explants: +116%). Histology revealed that explants treated with 20-200 microg/mL of rhOP-1, but not untreated control explants, contained areas of metachromatic-staining matrix with chondrocytes in cell nests. It was concluded that rhOP-1 stimulates differentiation of cartilage from perichondrium tissue. The direct actions of rhOP-1 on perichondrium cells in the stimulation of chondrocytic differentiation and production of cartilage matrix in vitro provides a cellular mechanism for the induction of cartilage formation by rhOP-1 in vivo. Thus rhOP-1 may promote early steps in the cascade of events leading to cartilage formation and could prove to be an interesting factor in the regeneration of cartilage in articular cartilage defects.
However, this doesn't matter because:

1) if your epiphyseal cartilage has ossified ("growth plates are closed"), there are not sufficient mesenchymal stem cells left to differentiate into chondrocytes, so even if the compound worked 100% as advertised, your bones would not be visibly lengthened

2) as corollary to 1) we can derive that even if the compound worked as advertised, you would first have to devise a way to transdifferentiate your ossified epiphyseal cartilage BACK into cartilage, and then BACK into mesenchymal stem cells, effectively reversing the process of biological aging/maturation; I hardly need to point out that if there existed technology that made this possible, none of us would be posting on this forum right now because everyone would be able to fix every physical flaw they had with a simple series of injections

3) again, even if the compound worked as advertised, the route of administration for the compound is intra-articular injection, which is NOTHING like the brain-dead easy subcutaneous rHGH/peptide and intramuscular androgenic anabolic steroid injections that the posters here may or may not have done before. Fuck up a subcutaneous injection and you end up in your doctor's office with an abcess. Fuck up an intra-articular injection and you lose a limb. Additionally, intra-articular injections are much more painful than even poorly performed AAS injections, and most posters here are too afraid of pain to even go through with those. In short: nobody here is going to do this.

4) the compound does NOT work as advertised. Even if by some miracle one of you actually worked up the courage to go through with an intra-articular injection AND actually did it right, all that will happen is you'll induce local inflammation due to the injection process, resulting in the few mesenchymal stem cells remaining within the slivers of cartilage at the end of the epiphyses converting directly into osteoblasts rather than chondrocytes. Again, you would have to somehow ensure that the MSCs convert into chondrocytes and NOT osteoblasts, which is something beyond the power of a simple injection of BMP-7

Not to mention all 4 points above are made under the assumption that what you are injecting is actually BMP-7, which is not at all a likely proposition given the dubious reputation of the seller of the compound (russianstarpeptides). Given that he was too stupid to properly manage to shill his product by posing as multiple different people (he was exposed by multiple sources, Google if interested), I'd say it's much more likely that you're injecting chinese bathtub water bought wholesale off Alibaba than actual BMP-7

In short, no, it won't work.

@Guest
I was taking 30mg of mk and AI aromasin every 6x days
one last cope cycle tho! before taking LL pill

should I be taking aromasin every other day at 25mg?
You could blast superphysiological amounts of HGH for a few months and get an inch or two. Could work but it could not too.

Take it with msm glucosamin chondroitin sam-e
 
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why you raging at me chrosmone , i saw that thread still injecting too curious
thank you for advice tho :)
actually use to talk to heightcel alot one pessimistic manlet ngl
 
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why you raging at me chrosmone , i saw that thread still injecting too curious
thank you for advice tho :)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2084363/
These infections include spondylodiscitis, septic arthritis, epidural abscess, necrotizing fasciitis, osteomyelitis, gas gangrene, and albicans arthritis. Other complications include spinal cord injury and peripheral nerve injuries, pneumothorax, air embolism, pain or swelling at the site of injection, chemical meningism, granulomatous inflammation of the synovium, aseptic acute arthritis, embolia cutis medicamentosa, skeletal muscle toxicity, and tendon and fascial ruptures.

Don't do it, it is theoretically impossible for bmp to increase height or clavicle width
 
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Fuck but eppley can only do 1cm for each clavicle reeee, SO SAD TBH BMP we need more research done I will look into it
 
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@Extra Chromosome superphysiological amounts of HGH - 8IU of pharma good?
 
@Extra Chromosome superphysiological amounts of HGH - 8IU of pharma good?

How would this work to increase your height if your growth plates are fully closed though?
 
How would this work to increase your height if your growth plates are fully closed though?
spinal not done growing completely and cartilage build up irc...correct me folks
 
18-20IU

I forgot the mechanism but it legit

Interesting. Have you seen this blogpost btw? https://authenticheightresearch.blogspot.com/ It pretty much summarizes everything you can use for heightmaxxing. There's a lot of stuff that's seen in everyday foods that can also increase GH apparently, which might be a good substitute for poorcels. Increase doesn'tlast for a long time though
 
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Interesting. Have you seen this blogpost btw? https://authenticheightresearch.blogspot.com/ It pretty much summarizes everything you can use for heightmaxxing. There's a lot of stuff that's seen in everyday foods that can also increase GH apparently, which might be a good substitute for poorcels. Increase doesn'tlast for a long time though
I have seen it and it doesn't cover that much.
THe only thing worth it on that blog is mk677.

Not even all placebos are covered lmao
 
one word read did I not
 
PM me if you find any legit sources for those, I'm interested to their effect on height.
(RussianStar seems sketchy)
Yo can I get those sources ?
 
actual sources for peptide "research"
peptidesciences.com
americanresearchlab.net
info@xpeptides.com (Ask for pricing list verified on sst)
Interesting. Have you seen this blogpost btw? https://authenticheightresearch.blogspot.com/ It pretty much summarizes everything you can use for heightmaxxing. There's a lot of stuff that's seen in everyday foods that can also increase GH apparently, which might be a good substitute for poorcels. Increase doesn'tlast for a long time though
It's worth noting that Ipamorelin although not as potent as ghrp 2 or hex has MUCH less side effects and spillover to other hormones.
 
I cannot fathom how a 20-year-old would not get his growth plates checked before spending hundreds of dollars on heightmaxxing. You’ve got to be retarded, OP.
 
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I cannot fathom how a 20-year-old would not get his growth plates checked before spending hundreds of dollars on heightmaxxing. You’ve got to be retarded, OP.
I needed growth hormone benefits anyway at the time, what bones do you recommend I check at endo?
 
get ur plates checked instead of wasting money
 
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got my growth plates checked, they were closed. still wasting money jfl
Fuck bruh I'd say at your point just wear 2 inch lifts and get LL and get a big haircut
 
Fuck bruh I'd say at your point just wear 2 inch lifts and get LL and get a big haircut
I'm trying to grow some in the torso from cartilage thickening by using peptides, if it makes a difference (like an inch or more) then I'll get LL 2 inches in tibia and 2 inches in femur. To get to over 5'9. But LL is the last resort, I'll first experiment with that Turkish scientist if he can put me at 5'7-5'8 then LL to 5'10 then fraud a bit more.
 
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I'm trying to grow some in the torso from cartilage thickening by using peptides, if it makes a difference (like an inch or more) then I'll get LL 2 inches in tibia and 2 inches in femur. To get to over 5'9. But LL is the last resort, I'll first experiment with that Turkish scientist if he can put me at 5'7-5'8 then LL to 5'10 then fraud a bit more.
Whats ur current height and age?
 
Bruh, you need 4 inch leg lengthening and 2 inch lifts serious
u are done growing
 
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Bruh, you need 4 inch leg lengthening and 2 inch lifts serious
u are done growing
ik that's why I want to try Alkoclar's method which triggers bone marrow derived stem cells to turn into bone. I've researched it, the scientific literature is all there, shit adds up. Using peptides along his thing will only accelerate the process by increasing igf-1. fgf-2 is the key, like a switch that will enable the process, igf will drive the process. but shit head keeps delaying and hasn't sent me anything yet and I'm learning more towards LL now
 
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ik that's why I want to try Alkoclar's method which triggers bone marrow derived stem cells to turn into bone. I've researched it, the scientific literature is all there, shit adds up. Using peptides along his thing will only accelerate the process by increasing igf-1. fgf-2 is the key, like a switch that will enable the process, igf will drive the process. but shit head keeps delaying and hasn't sent me anything yet and I'm learning more towards LL now
Good luck
 

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