Lefort 1 + BSSO + Genio with CCW surgery completed

[Deleted member 1464]

In for pics

 

[Dude420]

Ok, saw the surgeon today, I never got the genio finally, I wasn't sure, my chin seemed a bit stronger but it was only because of the rotation, the surgeon probably pussy out afraid it might snap again, he said it still required too much stretching. That is a hit for the looksmax potential of the surgery; won't be a GigaAscension because of no genio, it is mainly the rotation that makes the difference in appearance but 6 degrees isn't that huge of a difference. Either seems like I pretty much did the max advancement.
I asked him how much maxilla height he removed for the CCW, he told me 3 to 4 mm.

 

[Deleted member 685]

Did it shorten your midface?

 

[fOreVER]

Ok, saw the surgeon today, I never got the genio finally, I wasn't sure, my chin seemed a bit stronger but it was only because of the rotation, the surgeon probably pussy out afraid it might snap again, he said it still required too much stretching. That is a hit for the looksmax potential of the surgery; won't be a GigaAscension because of no genio, it is mainly the rotation that makes the difference in appearance but 6 degrees isn't that huge of a difference. Either seems like I pretty much did the max advancement.
I asked him how much maxilla height he removed for the CCW, he told me 3 to 4 mm.

3-4 mm is huge for midface length

 

[justanothergymcell]

Ok, saw the surgeon today, I never got the genio finally, I wasn't sure, my chin seemed a bit stronger but it was only because of the rotation, the surgeon probably pussy out afraid it might snap again, he said it still required too much stretching. That is a hit for the looksmax potential of the surgery; won't be a GigaAscension because of no genio, it is mainly the rotation that makes the difference in appearance but 6 degrees isn't that huge of a difference. Either seems like I pretty much did the max advancement.
I asked him how much maxilla height he removed for the CCW, he told me 3 to 4 mm.

Again, sounds fishy.

 

[Dude420]

3-4 mm is huge for midface length

Yeah a little not sure how noticeable that is.

Again, sounds fishy.

k

 

[Thushespokeofit]

Awesome

 

[Deleted member 685]

Did it shorten your midface?

You have to respond @Dude420

 

[turkproducer]

Lucky fuck, plz tag me I want to see your ascension

Have fun slaying!!
Lucky fuck, plz tag me I want to see your ascension

Have fun slaying!!

 

[Chadelite]

Thanks alot


Absolutely

holy crap, im gonna overdose on that

 

[Dude420]

You have to respond @Dude420

I already did

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I think the advancement was like 10mm maxilla + like 17mm mandible, would have to ask. I wrote 10mm because this is what he said, but he actually said I rotated 6 degrees then move both together forward by 10mm, I made the math and that would be like 7 extra mm for the rotation. 17mm is a lot which would explain why he couldn't continue stretching further with the genio, surprised he even thought he could go for it beforehand. Maybe I am confused though.

 

[mesr]

4mm is a good subtle amount for midface shortening - if i ever get it i'm aiming for 4-5mm which takes me from slightly long to 1:1 midface ratio. was it just for a gummy smile? you need a lip lift as well to move the soft tissue

 

[fOreVER]

4mm is a good subtle amount for midface shortening - if i ever get it i'm aiming for 4-5mm which takes me from slightly long to 1:1 midface ratio. was it just for a gummy smile? you need a lip lift as well to move the soft tissue

Holy shit 1:1 is already extremely bad

 

[Dude420]

4mm is a good subtle amount for midface shortening - if i ever get it i'm aiming for 4-5mm. was it just for a gummy smile? you need a lip lift as well to move the soft tissue

No, it was to make room for the CCW, often, they don't do that extra step though. Everything is brought up which is why the nose also gets upturned (despite removing the pointy nose base in the procedure), and your skin gets stretched everywhere, I am not sure lip lift is required to see the results, it is possible to a certain extent though, I still have some bloat, especially the philtrum skin region so I am not sure for my case.

 

[Deleted member 656]

Holy shit 1:1 is already extremely bad

That's literally the ideal midface ratio.

 

[fOreVER]

That's literally the ideal midface ratio.

Isnt it 1:2

 

[Deleted member 656]

Isnt it 1:2

I think you're thinking of FWHR. That's 1:1.8 to 1:2.

 

[fOreVER]

I think you're thinking of FWHR. That's 1:1.8 to 1:2.

Oh right my bad. How is midface measured

 

[Deleted member 656]

Oh right my bad. How is midface measured

IPD ÷ distance from pupil to the highest point of the upper lip (measured vertically, not diagonally.

 

[fOreVER]

IPD ÷ distance from pupil to the highest point of the upper lip (measured vertically, not diagonally.

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So a perfect square

 

[OCDMaxxing]

Keep us posted. Also, ballsy move you did there!

 

[kota]

No, it was to make room for the CCW, often, they don't do that extra step though. Everything is brought up which is why the nose also gets upturned (despite removing the pointy nose base in the procedure), and your skin gets stretched everywhere, I am not sure lip lift is required to see the results, it is possible to a certain extent though, I still have some bloat, especially the philtrum skin region so I am not sure for my case.

Yes, but if you didn't have a gummy smile before and got CCW that could mean you have some excess soft tissue in the philtrum afterwards where some bone was removed while soft tissue staying the same. You should have less upper teeth show now. Lip lift could be a very viable complementary procedure to a CCW bimax if you didn't have a gummy smile. I do wonder if the actual midface ratio changes at all without it since it is a measurement based on soft tissue markers.

How much did the nose upturn would you say? I would be very interested to see the difference.

 

[Dude420]

Yes, but if you didn't have a gummy smile before and got CCW that could mean you have some excess soft tissue in the philtrum afterwards where some bone was removed while soft tissue staying the same. You should have less upper teeth show now. Lip lift could be a very viable complementary procedure to a CCW bimax if you didn't have a gummy smile. I do wonder if the actual midface ratio changes at all without it since it is a measurement based on soft tissue markers.

How much did the nose upturn would you say? I would be very interested to see the difference.

I guess you could say I had a very mild gummy smile when I smiled and they removed a small quantity of maxilla, so should be perfect now.
Yea, I get your point, I had similar reflexion, it probably will nullify parts of it since the tissues stay the same, but it is complicated because all my lower facial tissues now have more bones surface to cover.
My nose maybe upturned by like 3 degrees, that is inevitable, he even removed the bony base of the nose to limit this.

 

[kota]

I guess you could say I had a very mild gummy smile when I smiled and they removed a small quantity of maxilla, so should be perfect now.
Yea, I get your point, I had similar reflexion, it probably will nullify parts of it since the tissues stay the same, but it is complicated because all my lower facial tissues now have more bones surface to cover.
My nose maybe upturned by like 3 degrees, that is inevitable, he even removed the bony base of the nose to limit this.

Interesting, I didn't know it was possible to remove some of the base of the nose. I have my qualms about bimax myself since my nose is already a bit upturned. Would be very interesting to see the results if you'd be willing to share.

 

[meh]

i'm proud of you.

 

[Gebirgscel]

bumpero for before afters
Because I am planning surgery too

 

[Savitar]

Hello, how did your eye area changed?

 

[MrLeeMaxxing]

What?

 

[Eduardo DOV]

name of surgeon ????

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Any after pics?

 

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