LeFort 3 Result

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Before:

After:

LeFort 3 is presented as the holy grail of surgeries here but as you can see, it's no silver bullet.

Stats:

- 23 year old Male

- LeFort 3 osteotomy was performed in combination with LF1 + BSSO:

- 4-mm LF3 advancement

- 5-mm upper jaw advance and 7mm mandibular setback

Outcome:

- Mid face still looks sunken.
- Clearly exhibits sunken eyes (enophthalmos) in the after.
- Needs a septoplasty

Anyone else have thoughts on this case?

 

[Snicket]

@lurking truecel @Lefor3Laser

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

Muh muh 3 fingers forehead is a Mogger trait

> 5 cm and high hairline is subhuman

Another day another ethnic cope debunked

 

[Snicket]

Muh muh 3 fingers forehead is a Mogger trait

> 5 cm and high hairline is subhuman

Another day another ethnic cope debunked

It’s ironic because I think the hairline itself is actually perfect. Zero hairline recession at 23.
The midface is the big issue combined with pretty bad asymmetry.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Before: View attachment 3543896 After:View attachment 3543878

LeFort 3 is presented as the holy grail of surgeries here but as you can see, it's no silver bullet.

Stats:

- 23 year old Male

- LeFort 3 osteotomy was performed in combination with LF1 + BSSO:

- 4-mm LF3 advancement

- 5-mm upper jaw advance and 7mm mandibular setback

Outcome:

- Mid face still looks sunken.
- Clearly exhibits sunken eyes (enophthalmos) in the after.
- Needs a septoplasty

Anyone else have thoughts on this case?

For a big surgery not a nig change tbh, paranasal was moved a little but not by much, and still has the looks of underbite but functionally i think it benefits him a lot.

People here would think that le fort 3 does a lot of improvment to the nasion and and inframalar region but it didn't do much in this case.

Your best bet will always be le fort 1 with implants.

 

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For a big surgery not a nig change tbh, paranasal was moved a little but not by much, and still has the looks of underbite but functionally i think it benefits him a lot.

People here would think that le fort 3 does a lot of improvment to the nasion and and inframalar region but it didn't do much in this case.

Your best bet will always be le fort 1 with implants.

It was clearly a functional surgery for this guy. But his eyes are now sunken. It's ironic because the paper I took this from said it's a risk of the surgery but completely ignores the fact that their own patient suffers from it.

I wonder what a more aggressive advancement of the LF3 area would have achieved.
It was a very modest movement for such an invasive surgery.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

It was clearly a functional surgery for this guy. But his eyes are now sunken. It's ironic because the paper I took this from said it's a risk of the surgery but completely ignores the fact that their own patient suffers from it.

I wonder what a more aggressive advancement of the LF3 area would have achieved.

Yeah i also am curious to see on how much a bigger movements would end up looking, but it would be riskier and needs to take into consideration the muscles and nerves in the region.

Yeah he was sunken from the begging and by advancing it, it made it even more obvious.

 

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Yeah i also am curious to see on how much a bigger movements would end up looking, but it would be riskier and needs to take into consideration the muscles and nerves in the region.

Yeah he was sunken from the begging and by advancing it, it made it even more obvious.

It was a very modest movement for such an invasive surgery. Calls into question why do it at all that stage. Perhaps the surgeons reasoned that any more advancement came with just too many risks.

 

[Futura]

Muh muh 3 fingers forehead is a Mogger trait

> 5 cm and high hairline is subhuman

Another day another ethnic cope debunked

This hairline mogs tbh

 

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This hairline mogs tbh

He's thinning all over the top so it's irrelevant.

 

[lurking truecel]

Would he have moved the maxilla more then the nose would have been gone litteraly. And yes he would need even more advancements. But its allways about how developed the maxilla is. Leforte only moves forward. But if the mass is low then it will not fix, thats why implants is the only option in some cases

 

[lurking truecel]

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This hairline mogs tbh

His his head shape mogs but the hairline is too high

 

[Futura]

His his head shape mogs but the hairline is too high

It's not too high, it only looks high from the side but it's ideal because he has an insanely tall midface and lower third (and width too) nigga's skull ia just massive

 

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His his head shape mogs but the hairline is too high

Lol I started the thread to talk about the maxilla and all people are talking about is the hairline!
He's a perfect NW1 with zero hariline recession. Hair is literally not a problem here!

 

[Azim]

 

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Would he have moved the maxilla more then the nose would have been gone litteraly. And yes he would need even more advancements. But its allways about how developed the maxilla is. Leforte only moves forward. But if the mass is low then it will not fix, thats why implants is the only option in some cases

Yes, he clearly needs additional surgeries to deal pre-exiting problems. Clearly needs a septoplasty to deal with a deviated septum.

 

[puniteking]

Before: View attachment 3543896 After:View attachment 3543878

LeFort 3 is presented as the holy grail of surgeries here but as you can see, it's no silver bullet.

Stats:

- 23 year old Male

- LeFort 3 osteotomy was performed in combination with LF1 + BSSO:

- 4-mm LF3 advancement

- 5-mm upper jaw advance and 7mm mandibular setback

Outcome:

- Mid face still looks sunken.
- Clearly exhibits sunken eyes (enophthalmos) in the after.
- Needs a septoplasty

Anyone else have thoughts on this case?

Why are things like lefort genuinely discussed here. Are you guys that subhuman ?

 

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Why are things like lefort genuinely discussed here. Are you guys that subhuman ?

It's interesting to discuss academically. I enjoy discussing what improved, what didn’t, the benefits, drawbacks of the surgery etc…

 

[lurking truecel]

It's not too high, it only looks high from the side but it's ideal because he has an insanely tall midface and lower third (and width too) nigga's skull ia just massive

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He has 2 foreheads

 

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He has 2 foreheads

Does it matter when your entire maxilla is retruded by 1cm +?

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

Still repulsive to look at

 

[lurking truecel]

Does it matter when your entire maxilla is retruded by 1cm +?

I mean the guy he sent on not the leforte 3 guy

 

[Snicket]

I mean the guy he sent on not the leforte 3 guy

oh my bad.