Left wing > right wing

[Lux]

Used to be a fascist/ primitivist & honestly still is the best political ideology imo but there's 0 benefits to wasting your mental energy on politics. Swapping political literature for more useful subjects has been a major self-improvement.

 

[Wallenberg]

A Bollywood actor
From the movie pink

name

 

[spark]

most of the people in this thread are either:

1. non white immigrants
2. literal faggot cuckolds

The left believes the world can be forced to be made equal, the right accepts that equality among people is impossible and it even goes as far as to say that inequality is good as it pushes better people to higher positions.

I believe that a nationalist homogeneous society with a mixture of both reactionary and revolutionary social values and a progressive economy is the best for society.

It’s painfully obvious that the current political structure is failing, with dropping birth rates, sky rocketing drug and suicide rates, lack of community, growing poverty and a hedonistic consumerist society.

Nations have been transformed from unique landscapes into boring globohomo economic zones. Liberal western societies are being outflanked by superior, saner nations like China. A move away from American global domination is good for both left and right.

For the coping politically illiterate subhumans infesting this dog shit thread

Controlling for socioeconomic status, we find that more attractive individuals are more likely to report higher levels of political efficacy, identify as conservative.

Effects of physical attractiveness on political beliefs | Politics and the Life Sciences | Cambridge Core

Effects of physical attractiveness on political beliefs - Volume 36 Issue 2

www.cambridge.org

Recent research suggests that taller people are more likely to hold certain politically conservative views, and to vote for right-wing politicians.

There's A Strange Link Between Height And Political Conservatism

Hint: Bill O'Reilly is not a short man.

www.huffpost.com

The more right wing you are, the higher your fertility rate is
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(inb4 muh political candidates)
Read the studies, they talk about supporters and voters


we look at modern leftists and we see mentally ill freaks that want everyone to worship blacks, fags and other minority groups.

They mainly do this because they are ashamed of themselves and are spiteful towards their own society.
spiteful mutant hypothesis holds weight when you look at the most popular left wing YTers.

workers rights leftism, has practically been destroyed by woke progressive social leftist. And to such a degree that leftists will openly attack White working class people for having “privilege”.

vaush - fat pan sexual furry pedophile
View attachment 1481069destiny - manlet self professed cuckold
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contrapoints - a ugly tranny with a heroin addiction
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Hasan - low IQ grifter that dated a pornstar with a 1000 + bodycount
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and the supporters are even worse

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More on spiteful mutants


Despite what m fags on this site Reddit and twitter say, most White adult normies lean slightly to the Right on social policy and slightly to the left on economics.

non of these are leftists just look at the interview vaush did on one of that right wing platform, these are all hyper individualist degenerates. An actual leftist would be someone like haz

 

[justadude]

Most people think left = trannies and right = women in kitchen

 

[Uglybrazilian]

The right denies reason, which leads to their non-rational beliefs about the world.

 

[Papal_Guard]

right leaning economics
left leaning social

Leave this forum you homosexual

 

[n0rthface]

non of these are leftists just look at the interview vaush did on one of that right wing platform, these are all hyper individualist degenerates. An actual leftist would be someone like haz

>haz

the ugly shitskin retard that didn’t even know what a pussy looked like

He’s a debate bro loser, got destroyed by Keith woods and Joel.

 

[WontStopNorwooding]

here are some right wing Chads
so masc

 

[spark]

>haz

the ugly shitskin retard that didn’t even know what a pussy looked like

He’s a debate bro loser, got destroyed by Keith woods and Joel.

He still looksmogs the two incels in the video.

My point was different however, all of these other so called leftists are pro-Anglo hyper individualist degenerates and thus can't really be called leftists to begin with. They would face prison charges in the USSR.

 

[TeraCope54]

here are some right wing Chads
so masc

Meanwhile right wingers irl

 

[WontStopNorwooding]

Meanwhile right wingers irl
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Meanwhile right wingers irl

 

[TeraCope54]

Meanwhile right wingers irl

Meanwhile right wingers irl

 

[WontStopNorwooding]

Meanwhile right wingers irl
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Meanwhile right wingers irl : never having sex

 

[TeraCope54]

Meanwhile right wingers irl : never having sex

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Meanwhile right wingers irl

 

[n0rthface]

He still looksmogs the two incels in the video.

My point was different however, all of these other so called leftists are pro-Anglo hyper individualist degenerates and thus can't really be called leftists to begin with. They would face prison charges in the USSR.

Joel and Keith mog him.

I know what you mean, leftism in the west has been deeply subverted by capital and intelligence agencies. I’d even say that workers rights, as a political movement is dead.

Haz is one of the saner Marxist YouTubers but his argument for immigration and diversity was terrible and it’s contradictory due to his support for china and NK ( states that lean heavily into ethnic nationalism)

 

[WontStopNorwooding]

Meanwhile right wingers irl
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yeah a "right winger" who support Israel, mhm

"
Heavyweight world champion Fury has opted to remain apolitical since his return to the ring in 2018 after receiving criticism for some controversial statements during his initial run to the heavyweight title.

But a message is reported to have appeared on his Instagram story that showed a message saying "Pray for Israel", which has since been deleted. "

 

[WontStopNorwooding]

Meanwhile right wingers irl
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[n0rthface]

The right denies reason, which leads to their non-rational beliefs about the world.

read about “Great Leap Forward” and “the cultural revolution” and tell Marxists are rational.

also ironic because a right winger inside the ccp is the reason why china isnt a backwater shithole.

 

[TeraCope54]

yeah a "right winger" who support Israel, mhm

"
Heavyweight world champion Fury has opted to remain apolitical since his return to the ring in 2018 after receiving criticism for some controversial statements during his initial run to the heavyweight title.

But a message is reported to have appeared on his Instagram story that showed a message saying "Pray for Israel", which has since been deleted. "

He said that so he wouldn't get cancelled after shitting on jews.

 

[WontStopNorwooding]

He said that so he wouldn't get cancelled after shitting on jews.

what a pussy

 

[TeraCope54]

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[TeraCope54]

what a pussy

No, other men are pussies in front of him.

 

[WontStopNorwooding]

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Wow you are literally him!

 

[TeraCope54]

read about “Great Leap Forward” and “the cultural revolution” and tell Marxists are rational.

also ironic because a right winger inside the ccp is the reason why china isnt a backwater shithole.

 

[gamma]

Most people think left = trannies and right = women in kitchen

Isn't it true though

 

[WontStopNorwooding]

Most people think left = trannies and right = women in kitchen

left = trannies and right = trannies but based

 

[Bvnny.]

The left makes more sense, since bankers, speculators, landlords, among others rule the world nowadays, instead of the government, so it's not like "muhh just make le market free" that all our problems are gonna go away.

Social democracy is good as a transition state, by enforcing harsher laws and taxes upon corporations, banks, """investors"""... while, at the same time, reducing taxes upon consumption for the common ppl, providing basic social goods, and things of that sort (in that way, taking power from the ruling class and giving more power to the people by giving them some basic social goods).

Aside from that, would say that the government should also promote that the power should be managed as locally as possible (localism), with the community collectively holding cooperatives and mutual banks (both mutualist ideas).

In that way, we will, as a society, build the path for a new society of the future, a society that may manage itself, by itself, without relying on the government or corporations (basically anarchy as it is theoretically conceived by anarchists, even tho I prefer to imagine it like a panarchy of some sort).

 

[gamma]

bankers, speculators, landlords, among others rule the world nowadays

And most of them are jews

 

[Bvnny.]

And most of them are jews

Well, I guess you could say that

 

[Uglybrazilian]

read about “Great Leap Forward” and “the cultural revolution” and tell Marxists are rational.

also ironic because a right winger inside the ccp is the reason why china isnt a backwater shithole.

Well here is all the biggest famines of the modern times
The ones in blue happened in capitalist countries while the ones in red happened in communist countries

Its Over

 

[Lord-Arthur_17]

The right denies reason, which leads to their non-rational beliefs about the world.

They explain everything by conspiracy, like paranoids. They complain about censorship, but want to censor others themselves. This gang of idiots does not understand that they are working against each other - that in the event of war, they will be sent to the front and die for the interests of the rich while the women can escape. It happened in Ukraine. Give thanks to the right wing.

 

[Deleted member 18436]

Being a lefty makes you a limp wristed beta who is rewarded socially from normies.
Being a right winger does nothing but ostracize you even more than you are i am right wing but i can't be bothered with it it's a lost cause

 

[Rabbi]

human nature, nature broadly, is necessarily right wing.

Cope

 

[Wallenberg]

Left wing social policies (pro LGBT etc) + right wing immigration policy = win

 

[Deleted member 18849]

low iq monkey cope

Yes you are, what now?

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Yes you are, what now?

are you an oldcel mad at me cuz im still 17?

 

[Lord-Arthur_17]

WHY AM I AGAINST CONSERVATISM?

1. ANDROCIDE
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I am against conservatism because it considers the life of utero-less people to be of less value. This is clearly seen in the example of Ukraine - women were allowed to evacuate, men were forced to fight. Someone will say that it is because men cannot get pregnant ... and I will say that it is a pointless argument, because never after the war in any country has anyone required women to bear children or return to their homeland, full of war devastation.

We no longer live in the Stone Age, and our scientists are close to developing artificial womb technology. Hence, it makes no sense to consider mine or yours as a life of less value than that of any woman. Times have changed, so if there are to be equal rights, there should also be equal obligations. If someone wants to live in a traditional relationship or fight a war - it's your choice, I don't mind but don't expect everyone to do the same.


2. WAGE-SLAVERY

Chad has sex, the beta male has the so-called dead bed - even if he proves that the child is not his, he has to pay alimony. When women are financially dependent on men, this is the worst possible situation for inferior men. It would be much better for them to masturbate, go to a prostitute or fuck some sex doll. There is no real feeling or desire in a relationship like this - so it's worth nothing. The man only loses on it. He keeps telling himself otherwise to protect his sense of masculinity.


3. WHITEKNIGHTING

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Andrew DiKaiomata from Paul Elam's A Voice for Men wrote a lengthy post about how he thought tradcons were white knights, saying:

"This last one is probably the biggest point to show how feminism overlaps with traditional conservatism. It screams both at the same time. “Save the women!,” “Fight for women!."

4. SIMILARITY TO FEMINISM

MRA's tend to criticize TradCons as to how they deal with criticism by shaming men, which bears striking resemblance to feminists. Just like feminists, they aim their insults almost exclusively at weak men and/or incels. Feminists will insult a man for being incel (aka not being able to sexually interest a woman enough for her to be around him) and "creepy" (i.e. ugly or unassertive). Tradcons will insult men who do not assert dominance (as "betas"), marcels, i.e. married men who fail to sexually satisfy their female partners, resulting in infidelity (as "cucks") alluding a cuckoldry where the man is so weak that he admits her wife the freedom to see other men. Traditional men tend to despise men who admit this freedom fearing once such behavior becomes normal, it would make it harder to mateguard their woman. Tradcons may also use the "cuck" and "beta" to insult white knights and other types of male feminist who display overly submissive and desperate behavior towards women.

A small but growing number of MGTOWs and MRAs have been complaining that their spaces have been overrun by trad-cons like Janet Bloomfield or "enabling" tradcons, like Karen Straughan does (allegedly), and that trad-cons are worse than feminists (which they also dislike) because they think trad-cons generally believe that men should exchange work for sex, and other 'anti-male' gender roles that put men in a slave-like position.​

 

[wollet2]

Sexual communism (patriarchy / conservatism, call it whatever you want) doesn’t make a lot of sense if you are at least chadlite in looks

Doesnt make a lot of sense if u are not a shit human and low iq.

 

[Deleted member 19610]

Meanwhile right wingers irl : never having sex

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lol what an aspie.

 

[wollet2]

Meanwhile right wingers irl : never having sex

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[wollet2]

Wow you are literally him!

Brutal btfod

 

[loksr]

extreme right wing is for incels
extreme left wing is for cuckolds
all of the middle zones are for boomers

you're probably not gl if you care about politics at all ngl (or you're from some war torn shithole so you absolutely NEED to care about politics)

nothing matters after you're dead, a life not spent trying to feel as good as you possibly can for as long as you possibly can is a life wasted

 

[Deleted member 20297]

Right wing ideologies are so cringe, they tell men to focus on themselves while encouraging violence and they don't care about you like not at all. They force morality like the cucks they actually are, only weak pussies created the right wing when you think deeply about it

On the other hand, left wing mogs hard, it's supportive unlike right, yes both parties don't give a fuck about you but left wing atleast pretends like they care about you. Atleast you can embrace your true self in the leftwing community and exploit the system as it is. While in the right wing community you get tortured if you don't act obedient

I think both parties are shit but if i was to choose, i would go with leftwing always. Right is repressing true human nature.

Right wing treat human beings like garbage, leftists act super retarded but at least they care to an extent

 

[Deleted member 8355]

Well here is all the biggest famines of the modern times
The ones in blue happened in capitalist countries while the ones in red happened in communist countries

Its Over
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Most of those famines seem to have happened in African nations, specifically ones that are corrupt and inefficient, so it is an irrelevant argument.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Far right and far left people are always ugly incel copers

Good looking people are either moderate or just don’t care about politics- they’re too busy enjoying life and having sex to get involved in such copes

 

[Deleted member 8355]

Being too fringe on either end is probably the biggest sign of unintelligence. You can not control Human society in any one direction, it needs balance. There are good ideas and policies on all sides, however they will always come with tradeoffs. I personally believe current American system is pretty good all things considered. It does not need to be changed radically, only slight tweaks are needed.

When it comes to more social aspects of society, I am a big supporter in libertarian paternalism. It is a subtle way of influencing people to make better choices for themselves, without actually forcing them to. They can still choose what they want to do, but the more correct choice is seen as more desirable. Of course this also comes with a tradeoff and can definitely become a slippery slope dilemma.

 

[Deleted member 3828]

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that we are in the midst of the biggest power grab and attack on civil liberties in human history.
And yet when you look at the media/politics etc., both the left and the right still choose to hyper-focus on trivial issues such as race, gender, religion etc. All massive and blatantly obvious distractions. Divide and rule 101, basically.
What the people should be doing, is to put all of that trivial bullshit aside, and focus on our common enemy, the deep state.

The focal point shouldn't be about left vs right politics. But instead, about the attack on our civil liberties and freedoms. At the end of the day, both sides of the spectrum will gladly stab you in the back.
I'd go as far as to suggest that left/right doesn't exist. Politics doesn't exist. It's an illusion. It's all smoke and mirrors and the people at the very top are pulling the strings and dictating how it goes.

Mashallah

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Sexual communism (patriarchy / conservatism, call it whatever you want) doesn’t make a lot of sense if you are at least chadlite in looks

> Sexual communism

> Patriarchy

Pick one.

Sexual communism is something like free love. Which is basically an open relationship where there is no exclusivity. Your gf is allowed and morally should in the spirit of free love should fuck another men and women.

Perfect for your "chadlite" looks.

 

[Lord-Arthur_17]

1. ANDROCIDE
​

I am against conservatism because it considers the life of utero-less people to be of less value. This is clearly seen in the example of Ukraine - women were allowed to evacuate, men were forced to fight. Someone will say that it is because men cannot get pregnant ... and I will say that it is a pointless argument, because never after the war in any country has anyone required women to bear children or return to their homeland, full of war devastation.

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We no longer live in the Stone Age, and our scientists are close to developing artificial womb technology. Hence, it makes no sense to consider mine or yours as a life of less value than that of any woman. Times have changed, so if there are to be equal rights, there should also be equal obligations. If someone wants to live in a traditional relationship or fight a war - it's your choice, I don't mind but don't expect everyone to do the same.


2. WAGE-SLAVERY

View attachment 1755802

Chad has sex, the beta male has the so-called dead bed - even if he proves that the child is not his, he has to pay alimony. When women are financially dependent on men, this is the worst possible situation for inferior men. It would be much better for them to masturbate, go to a prostitute or fuck some sex doll. There is no real feeling or desire in a relationship like this - so it's worth nothing. The man only loses on it. He keeps telling himself otherwise to protect his sense of masculinity.


3. WHITEKNIGHTING

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​

Andrew DiKaiomata from Paul Elam's A Voice for Men wrote a lengthy post about how he thought tradcons were white knights, saying:

"This last one is probably the biggest point to show how feminism overlaps with traditional conservatism. It screams both at the same time. “Save the women!,” “Fight for women!."

4. SIMILARITY TO FEMINISM

View attachment 1755808

MRA's tend to criticize TradCons as to how they deal with criticism by shaming men, which bears striking resemblance to feminists. Just like feminists, they aim their insults almost exclusively at weak men and/or incels. Feminists will insult a man for being incel (aka not being able to sexually interest a woman enough for her to be around him) and "creepy" (i.e. ugly or unassertive). Tradcons will insult men who do not assert dominance (as "betas"), marcels, i.e. married men who fail to sexually satisfy their female partners, resulting in infidelity (as "cucks") alluding a cuckoldry where the man is so weak that he admits her wife the freedom to see other men. Traditional men tend to despise men who admit this freedom fearing once such behavior becomes normal, it would make it harder to mateguard their woman. Tradcons may also use the "cuck" and "beta" to insult white knights and other types of male feminist who display overly submissive and desperate behavior towards women.

View attachment 1755809

A small but growing number of MGTOWs and MRAs have been complaining that their spaces have been overrun by trad-cons like Janet Bloomfield or "enabling" tradcons, like Karen Straughan does (allegedly), and that trad-cons are worse than feminists (which they also dislike) because they think trad-cons generally believe that men should exchange work for sex, and other 'anti-male' gender roles that put men in a slave-like position.​

5. INEFFICIENCY
​

Attacking abortion and LGBT rights while failing to actually raise the fertility-rate. Especially american conservatives constantly attack trans people (especially trans female) for no good reason while cis females prioritize their careers over making babies.

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Both Hungary and Poland have tried raising the fertility-rate with rather aggressive policies meant to be pro-natal but so far that has failed because females are not going to make more babies because you pay them to do so in a modern economy where they don't really need that money in the first place. Of course anti-abortion legislation is often more motivated by christianity than to actually raise the fertility rate.

6. FAILING TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE
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Cuckservatives tend to be overly defensive of the police and legal system as it failed to actually keep people safe. As we see in the united states creating a police-state and giving out harch sentences isn't going to make crime go away, at least not unless you execute it well.

Sweden has much more lenient sentences and also a much lower murder-rate. Why is that?

There are multiple potential explanations for this failure:

0. Failing to provide people with a sense of community with other citizens.
1. Failing to enact proper gun-control.
2. Not providing people with a good education.
3. Not giving the poor enough welfare causing them to resort to crimes.
4. Racial differences (Sweden also has many immigrants though).
5. Problematic pro-crime culture developing.

Having a bigger government that take a bigger role in peoples lives (before they reach the point where they resort to crimes) is one approach in reducing the incidence of criminality. If sending people to jail is your only method of social control you are going to have to resort to that is the only tool of your disposal. For example you might want to use compulsory schooling to push people away from crime. You might want to send staff to observe people who are in danger to themselves or others.

7. NO MEDICAL CARE
​

Cuckservatives also failed at protecting people against diseases like AIDS and COVID-19 in large part due to their belief in limited government rather than doing what it takes to stop the spread. Them not doing more to stop the aids epedemic might also be due to them hating LGBT people.

If this is not the depopulation of your own nation, what is it?

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[n0rthface]

5. INEFFICIENCY
​

Attacking abortion and LGBT rights while failing to actually raise the fertility-rate. Especially american conservatives constantly attack trans people (especially trans female) for no good reason while cis females prioritize their careers over making babies.

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​

Both Hungary and Poland have tried raising the fertility-rate with rather aggressive policies meant to be pro-natal but so far that has failed because females are not going to make more babies because you pay them to do so in a modern economy where they don't really need that money in the first place. Of course anti-abortion legislation is often more motivated by christianity than to actually raise the fertility rate.

6. FAILING TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE
​

Cuckservatives tend to be overly defensive of the police and legal system as it failed to actually keep people safe. As we see in the united states creating a police-state and giving out harch sentences isn't going to make crime go away, at least not unless you execute it well.

View attachment 1755927

Sweden has much more lenient sentences and also a much lower murder-rate. Why is that?

There are multiple potential explanations for this failure:

0. Failing to provide people with a sense of community with other citizens.
1. Failing to enact proper gun-control.
2. Not providing people with a good education.
3. Not giving the poor enough welfare causing them to resort to crimes.
4. Racial differences (Sweden also has many immigrants though).
5. Problematic pro-crime culture developing.

Having a bigger government that take a bigger role in peoples lives (before they reach the point where they resort to crimes) is one approach in reducing the incidence of criminality. If sending people to jail is your only method of social control you are going to have to resort to that is the only tool of your disposal. For example you might want to use compulsory schooling to push people away from crime. You might want to send staff to observe people who are in danger to themselves or others.

7. NO MEDICAL CARE
​

Cuckservatives also failed at protecting people against diseases like AIDS and COVID-19 in large part due to their belief in limited government rather than doing what it takes to stop the spread. Them not doing more to stop the aids epedemic might also be due to them hating LGBT people.

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If this is not the depopulation of your own nation, what is it?

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Nobody is reading any of this.

stop trying to push your leftist fag shit here because literally nobody cares