LEGIT SOFTMAX EYE COLOR CHANGE (GTFIH)

[SnowyWeather]

Introduction​

I’m a darkeyecel, and I’ve been looking for methods to brighten my eyes.
I’ve been searching through BotB, but the only thread about eye color changing is this one by @Alexanderr https://looksmax.org/threads/stroma-eye-color-change-explained-mega-thread.228789/ it’s pretty good with covering the sciences behind eye color, but I’ll also explain the necessary information in this thread.

The main issue I have with that BotB thread is that it only covers options that I can’t afford
The only option I thought I had was wearing color contacts, but I’ve done some research and there’s another method.

This method could be the holy grail for darkeyecels: PDS - Pigment Dispersion Syndrome
PDS isn’t new, but it’s been cast aside as “not researched” or “high risk, no reward” so there’s no BotB threads on it, and very little information about it on here.
TLDR: New FREE method for lightening eyes (PDS) with very little info about it on org, is talked about in this thread.

Why Are Irises Dark?​

Dark Irises are caused by one thing: Melanin
Found in skin, hair, and most importantly: Irises

There are different types, but the most relevant type of melanin to this thread is Eumelanin

Eumelanin:

• Two types: black eumelanin and brown eumelanin, most people have varying amounts of both
• Black hair means more black eumelanin, brown hair means more brown eumelanin

• Blonde hair is caused by no black eumelanin and a small amount of brown eumelanin
• This explains why blonde hair often comes with blue eyes: low eumelanin

Another type is Pheomelanin, which isn’t as important, but still feels a little relevant and is worth mentioning. Pheomelanin is common in green and hazel eyes. Just another obstacle to get to your blue eyes


Importance of Melanin
Eye color isn’t a direct gene. You don’t just get the “Blue eye gene” or “green eye gene” from your parents. The gene only determines eumelanin and pheomelanin levels. Meaning that if you change the eumelanin or pheomelanin levels you store, your eyes will be lighter.

Brown eyes and black eyes have the potential to be green or blue, no matter what.

The goal of getting brighter irises is to strip the melanin from the Iris pigment epithelium


Iris pigment epithelium
It’s the colored part of the iris. Contains the melanin and chromatophores that make up the eye color.

If you’re concerned about chromatophores affecting eye color, they only very slightly affect the shade depending on how light your environment is. If you stare into the sun, then your bright blue eyes turn to medium blue eyes. Not that important to the thread.

HOLY GRAIL: Pigment Dispersion Syndrome (PDS)​

PDS is defined as a condition characterized by the release of melanin granules from the iris pigment epithelium due to friction between the iris and zonular lenticular structures, potentially leading to trabecular dysfunction and increased ocular pressure, which can result in pigmentary glaucoma.

This is what Ehren used to brighten his eyes, and it obviously worked miracles for him.

PDS has often been cast aside for being underresearched or too dangerous, but this isn’t actually that true.
PDS is a well-studied syndrome, so obviously its affects are well studied too.

RISK
PDS can cause the anterior hyaloid, which normally adheres firmly to the posterior lens capsule by the hyaloideocapsular ligament of Weiger, can detach following blunt trauma.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2907041/#:~:text=Abstract,Berger's%20from%20the%20posterior%20chamber.&text=Blunt%20ocular%20trauma%20results%20in,patient%20with%20bilateral%20pigment%20dispersion.

This causes PVD.
Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD), involves the vitreous gel separating from its attachments at the front of the eye (posterior lens capsule) and back of the eye (retina). While PVD is common, especially in people over 50, it can lead to serious, vision-threatening complications if the vitreous pulls too hard on the retina.

In most cases (about 85%), PVD happens without causing serious, permanent vision loss, but it creates noticeable, annoying symptoms that often subside after a few months.

Sudden Increase in Floaters: You may see "squiggles," "dots," or a "ring" (known as a Weiss ring) floating in your vision.
Flashes of Light: You might see lightning-like streaks, usually in your peripheral (side) vision, caused by the vitreous tugging on the retina.
https://www.iowaretina.com/common-eye-disorders/pvd/#:~:text=Many people who develop PVD,be visible to the patient.

If you notice either of these symptoms after making use of PDS over a long time, consult a doctor. Now it’s clear that since this is the main side effect, PDS is actually pretty safe.

HOW TO INDUCE PDS​

The mechanisms behind the formation of PDS are due to the constant rubbing and friction between pigment iris epithelium and lens structures during pupil movements, which tend to occur in the presence of reverse pupillary block and posterior bowing of the iris
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9741933/#:~:text=Reverse pupillary block can occur,, and PG [44].

So by pressing hard on your iris area and slightly moving your finger around, you can create friction between the PIE and lens structures.

This hasn’t been studied or practiced very well, but Ehren claimed that 5 minutes 2-3 times every day will be enough to efficiently render results. I am going to start PDS, and will document the results and effects

Sungazing is Cope (extra bit)​

Sun exposure doesn’t significantly change melanin content, so it won’t cause a noticeable shift in your base eye color.

Do Brown Eyes Get Lighter in the Sun?
Sunlight won’t lighten your brown eyes. You might notice flecks of gold or hazel that seem more prominent in bright light, but this is an illusion. Different lighting conditions can change how your eyes appear, but the actual pigment remains the same.

https://riversideoptometry.vision/can-the-sun-make-your-eyes-lighter/

PLEASE avoid sungazing, dangerous for zero reward, actually hurts progress as UV exposure promotes melanin, it doesn’t strip it.

Closing​

This is definitely the best guide I’ve ever made, please lmk any questions or advice. As far as I know, no thread has covered this in BotB. If you think this thread is worthy, please rep and bump

Obviously you could wear contacts, but that’s not permanent and embarrassing to be found out.
For other solutions that are probably less risky, check out the thread linked in the intro paragraph.

Thanks for reading!

ALso, any ideas on what to call PDS? bc the proper way to say it would be "inducing PDS", so should we give it a proper name? Iris pressing? ehren method? lmk

Spoiler: Tags

@mohi_100 @Feuerwehr @xzylecrey @LukaKhang @Skitsuna

 

[SnowyWeather]

@grav @soapbubble @Light_Kira @Grilldaddy❤️ @dinnerbone

 

[Deleted member 131540]

This is definitely the best guide I’ve ever made

this line made me laugh
mirin the self-respect

also if this thread is legitimate, it should be moved to the looksmaxxing section instead of offtopic

 

[SnowyWeather]

this line made me laugh
mirin the self-respect

I’ve only made water guides until now

also if this thread is legitimate, it should be moved to the looksmaxxing section instead of offtopic

Whoops, yeah youre right. I was js thinking of where all the users are. Can mods move threads?

 

[Deleted member 131540]

I’ve only made water guides until now

Whoops, yeah youre right. I was js thinking of where all the users are. Can mods move threads?

yeah just ask a mod to move it

 

[SnowyWeather]

Yo @Ghost Philosophy @TechnoBoss can one of you guys move this thread to the lm subforum?

 

[Deleted member 257282]

Introduction​

I’m a darkeyecel, and I’ve been looking for methods to brighten my eyes.
I’ve been searching through BotB, but the only thread about eye color changing is this one by @Alexanderr https://looksmax.org/threads/stroma-eye-color-change-explained-mega-thread.228789/ it’s pretty good with covering the sciences behind eye color, but I’ll also explain the necessary information in this thread.

The main issue I have with that BotB thread is that it only covers options that I can’t afford
The only option I thought I had was wearing color contacts, but I’ve done some research and there’s another method.

This method could be the holy grail for darkeyecels: PDS - Pigment Dispersion Syndrome
PDS isn’t new, but it’s been cast aside as “not researched” or “high risk, no reward” so there’s no BotB threads on it, and very little information about it on here.
TLDR: New FREE method for lightening eyes (PDS) with very little info about it on org, is talked about in this thread.

Why Are Irises Dark?​

Dark Irises are caused by one thing: Melanin
Found in skin, hair, and most importantly: Irises

There are different types, but the most relevant type of melanin to this thread is Eumelanin

Eumelanin:

• Two types: black eumelanin and brown eumelanin, most people have varying amounts of both
• Black hair means more black eumelanin, brown hair means more brown eumelanin

• Blonde hair is caused by no black eumelanin and a small amount of brown eumelanin
• This explains why blonde hair often comes with blue eyes: low eumelanin

Another type is Pheomelanin, which isn’t as important, but still feels a little relevant and is worth mentioning. Pheomelanin is common in green and hazel eyes. Just another obstacle to get to your blue eyes


Importance of Melanin
Eye color isn’t a direct gene. You don’t just get the “Blue eye gene” or “green eye gene” from your parents. The gene only determines eumelanin and pheomelanin levels. Meaning that if you change the eumelanin or pheomelanin levels you store, your eyes will be lighter.

Brown eyes and black eyes have the potential to be green or blue, no matter what.

The goal of getting brighter irises is to strip the melanin from the Iris pigment epithelium


Iris pigment epithelium
It’s the colored part of the iris. Contains the melanin and chromatophores that make up the eye color.
View attachment 4671392 If you’re concerned about chromatophores affecting eye color, they only very slightly affect the shade depending on how light your environment is. If you stare into the sun, then your bright blue eyes turn to medium blue eyes. Not that important to the thread.

HOLY GRAIL: Pigment Dispersion Syndrome (PDS)​

PDS is defined as a condition characterized by the release of melanin granules from the iris pigment epithelium due to friction between the iris and zonular lenticular structures, potentially leading to trabecular dysfunction and increased ocular pressure, which can result in pigmentary glaucoma.

This is what Ehren used to brighten his eyes, and it obviously worked miracles for him.
View attachment 4671391View attachment 4671393

PDS has often been cast aside for being underresearched or too dangerous, but this isn’t actually that true.
PDS is a well-studied syndrome, so obviously its affects are well studied too.

RISK
PDS can cause the anterior hyaloid, which normally adheres firmly to the posterior lens capsule by the hyaloideocapsular ligament of Weiger, can detach following blunt trauma.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2907041/#:~:text=Abstract,Berger's%20from%20the%20posterior%20chamber.&text=Blunt%20ocular%20trauma%20results%20in,patient%20with%20bilateral%20pigment%20dispersion.

This causes PVD.
Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD), involves the vitreous gel separating from its attachments at the front of the eye (posterior lens capsule) and back of the eye (retina). While PVD is common, especially in people over 50, it can lead to serious, vision-threatening complications if the vitreous pulls too hard on the retina.

In most cases (about 85%), PVD happens without causing serious, permanent vision loss, but it creates noticeable, annoying symptoms that often subside after a few months.

Sudden Increase in Floaters: You may see "squiggles," "dots," or a "ring" (known as a Weiss ring) floating in your vision.
Flashes of Light: You might see lightning-like streaks, usually in your peripheral (side) vision, caused by the vitreous tugging on the retina.
https://www.iowaretina.com/common-eye-disorders/pvd/#:~:text=Many people who develop PVD,be visible to the patient.

If you notice either of these symptoms after making use of PDS over a long time, consult a doctor. Now it’s clear that since this is the main side effect, PDS is actually pretty safe.

HOW TO INDUCE PDS​

The mechanisms behind the formation of PDS are due to the constant rubbing and friction between pigment iris epithelium and lens structures during pupil movements, which tend to occur in the presence of reverse pupillary block and posterior bowing of the iris
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9741933/#:~:text=Reverse pupillary block can occur,, and PG [44].

So by pressing hard on your iris area and slightly moving your finger around, you can create friction between the PIE and lens structures.

This hasn’t been studied or practiced very well, but Ehren claimed that 5 minutes 2-3 times every day will be enough to efficiently render results. I am going to start PDS, and will document the results and effects

Sungazing is Cope (extra bit)​

Sun exposure doesn’t significantly change melanin content, so it won’t cause a noticeable shift in your base eye color.

Do Brown Eyes Get Lighter in the Sun?
Sunlight won’t lighten your brown eyes. You might notice flecks of gold or hazel that seem more prominent in bright light, but this is an illusion. Different lighting conditions can change how your eyes appear, but the actual pigment remains the same.

https://riversideoptometry.vision/can-the-sun-make-your-eyes-lighter/

PLEASE avoid sungazing, dangerous for zero reward, actually hurts progress as UV exposure promotes melanin, it doesn’t strip it.

Closing​

This is definitely the best guide I’ve ever made, please lmk any questions or advice. As far as I know, no thread has covered this in BotB. If you think this thread is worthy, please rep and bump

Obviously you could wear contacts, but that’s not permanent and embarrassing to be found out.
For other solutions that are probably less risky, check out the thread linked in the intro paragraph.

Thanks for reading!

ALso, any ideas on what to call PDS? bc the proper way to say it would be "inducing PDS", so should we give it a proper name? Iris pressing? ehren method? lmk

Spoiler: Tags

@mohi_100 @Feuerwehr @xzylecrey @LukaKhang @Skitsuna

Botb incomming

 

[Deleted member 257282]

Yo @Ghost Philosophy @TechnoBoss can one of you guys move this thread to the lm subforum?

Move it to botb

 

[mohito]

Definitely botb worthy

 

[soapbubble]

Read everything, seems like a high iq theory (idk anything about the science stuff so i’m just judging based on what you said) and the fact PDS is understudied or at least there isn’t officially a lot known about your theory might actually be a good sign. I’m very interested in seeing what kind of results this would have since you mentioned that you plan to try it.

One more thing, I’d advise to take everything @nordsmog says about looksmaxxing with a grain of salt though, his “sun gazing for lighter eyes” and “bonesmash your heel for height” threads for instance were trolls that he doubled down on when people asked him about them in the replies.

 

[soapbubble]

Mirin effort

bump

 

[Idontknow-]

Introduction​

I’m a darkeyecel, and I’ve been looking for methods to brighten my eyes.
I’ve been searching through BotB, but the only thread about eye color changing is this one by @Alexanderr https://looksmax.org/threads/stroma-eye-color-change-explained-mega-thread.228789/ it’s pretty good with covering the sciences behind eye color, but I’ll also explain the necessary information in this thread.

The main issue I have with that BotB thread is that it only covers options that I can’t afford
The only option I thought I had was wearing color contacts, but I’ve done some research and there’s another method.

This method could be the holy grail for darkeyecels: PDS - Pigment Dispersion Syndrome
PDS isn’t new, but it’s been cast aside as “not researched” or “high risk, no reward” so there’s no BotB threads on it, and very little information about it on here.
TLDR: New FREE method for lightening eyes (PDS) with very little info about it on org, is talked about in this thread.

Why Are Irises Dark?​

Dark Irises are caused by one thing: Melanin
Found in skin, hair, and most importantly: Irises

There are different types, but the most relevant type of melanin to this thread is Eumelanin

Eumelanin:

• Two types: black eumelanin and brown eumelanin, most people have varying amounts of both
• Black hair means more black eumelanin, brown hair means more brown eumelanin

• Blonde hair is caused by no black eumelanin and a small amount of brown eumelanin
• This explains why blonde hair often comes with blue eyes: low eumelanin

Another type is Pheomelanin, which isn’t as important, but still feels a little relevant and is worth mentioning. Pheomelanin is common in green and hazel eyes. Just another obstacle to get to your blue eyes


Importance of Melanin
Eye color isn’t a direct gene. You don’t just get the “Blue eye gene” or “green eye gene” from your parents. The gene only determines eumelanin and pheomelanin levels. Meaning that if you change the eumelanin or pheomelanin levels you store, your eyes will be lighter.

Brown eyes and black eyes have the potential to be green or blue, no matter what.

The goal of getting brighter irises is to strip the melanin from the Iris pigment epithelium


Iris pigment epithelium
It’s the colored part of the iris. Contains the melanin and chromatophores that make up the eye color.
View attachment 4671392 If you’re concerned about chromatophores affecting eye color, they only very slightly affect the shade depending on how light your environment is. If you stare into the sun, then your bright blue eyes turn to medium blue eyes. Not that important to the thread.

HOLY GRAIL: Pigment Dispersion Syndrome (PDS)​

PDS is defined as a condition characterized by the release of melanin granules from the iris pigment epithelium due to friction between the iris and zonular lenticular structures, potentially leading to trabecular dysfunction and increased ocular pressure, which can result in pigmentary glaucoma.

This is what Ehren used to brighten his eyes, and it obviously worked miracles for him.
View attachment 4671391View attachment 4671393

PDS has often been cast aside for being underresearched or too dangerous, but this isn’t actually that true.
PDS is a well-studied syndrome, so obviously its affects are well studied too.

RISK
PDS can cause the anterior hyaloid, which normally adheres firmly to the posterior lens capsule by the hyaloideocapsular ligament of Weiger, can detach following blunt trauma.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2907041/#:~:text=Abstract,Berger's%20from%20the%20posterior%20chamber.&text=Blunt%20ocular%20trauma%20results%20in,patient%20with%20bilateral%20pigment%20dispersion.

This causes PVD.
Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD), involves the vitreous gel separating from its attachments at the front of the eye (posterior lens capsule) and back of the eye (retina). While PVD is common, especially in people over 50, it can lead to serious, vision-threatening complications if the vitreous pulls too hard on the retina.

In most cases (about 85%), PVD happens without causing serious, permanent vision loss, but it creates noticeable, annoying symptoms that often subside after a few months.

Sudden Increase in Floaters: You may see "squiggles," "dots," or a "ring" (known as a Weiss ring) floating in your vision.
Flashes of Light: You might see lightning-like streaks, usually in your peripheral (side) vision, caused by the vitreous tugging on the retina.
https://www.iowaretina.com/common-eye-disorders/pvd/#:~:text=Many people who develop PVD,be visible to the patient.

If you notice either of these symptoms after making use of PDS over a long time, consult a doctor. Now it’s clear that since this is the main side effect, PDS is actually pretty safe.

HOW TO INDUCE PDS​

The mechanisms behind the formation of PDS are due to the constant rubbing and friction between pigment iris epithelium and lens structures during pupil movements, which tend to occur in the presence of reverse pupillary block and posterior bowing of the iris
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9741933/#:~:text=Reverse pupillary block can occur,, and PG [44].

So by pressing hard on your iris area and slightly moving your finger around, you can create friction between the PIE and lens structures.

This hasn’t been studied or practiced very well, but Ehren claimed that 5 minutes 2-3 times every day will be enough to efficiently render results. I am going to start PDS, and will document the results and effects

Sungazing is Cope (extra bit)​

Sun exposure doesn’t significantly change melanin content, so it won’t cause a noticeable shift in your base eye color.

Do Brown Eyes Get Lighter in the Sun?
Sunlight won’t lighten your brown eyes. You might notice flecks of gold or hazel that seem more prominent in bright light, but this is an illusion. Different lighting conditions can change how your eyes appear, but the actual pigment remains the same.

https://riversideoptometry.vision/can-the-sun-make-your-eyes-lighter/

PLEASE avoid sungazing, dangerous for zero reward, actually hurts progress as UV exposure promotes melanin, it doesn’t strip it.

Closing​

This is definitely the best guide I’ve ever made, please lmk any questions or advice. As far as I know, no thread has covered this in BotB. If you think this thread is worthy, please rep and bump

Obviously you could wear contacts, but that’s not permanent and embarrassing to be found out.
For other solutions that are probably less risky, check out the thread linked in the intro paragraph.

Thanks for reading!

ALso, any ideas on what to call PDS? bc the proper way to say it would be "inducing PDS", so should we give it a proper name? Iris pressing? ehren method? lmk

Spoiler: Tags

@mohi_100 @Feuerwehr @xzylecrey @LukaKhang @Skitsuna

Wow. I hope it goes to BOTB

 

[Deleted member 330603]

Elbastardo eye lightening guide all over again

 

[Idontknow-]

I am going to start PDS, and will document the results and effects

If you do, tag me

 

[Fridx]

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Introduction​

I’m a darkeyecel, and I’ve been looking for methods to brighten my eyes.
I’ve been searching through BotB, but the only thread about eye color changing is this one by @Alexanderr https://looksmax.org/threads/stroma-eye-color-change-explained-mega-thread.228789/ it’s pretty good with covering the sciences behind eye color, but I’ll also explain the necessary information in this thread.

The main issue I have with that BotB thread is that it only covers options that I can’t afford
The only option I thought I had was wearing color contacts, but I’ve done some research and there’s another method.

This method could be the holy grail for darkeyecels: PDS - Pigment Dispersion Syndrome
PDS isn’t new, but it’s been cast aside as “not researched” or “high risk, no reward” so there’s no BotB threads on it, and very little information about it on here.
TLDR: New FREE method for lightening eyes (PDS) with very little info about it on org, is talked about in this thread.

Why Are Irises Dark?​

Dark Irises are caused by one thing: Melanin
Found in skin, hair, and most importantly: Irises

There are different types, but the most relevant type of melanin to this thread is Eumelanin

Eumelanin:

• Two types: black eumelanin and brown eumelanin, most people have varying amounts of both
• Black hair means more black eumelanin, brown hair means more brown eumelanin

• Blonde hair is caused by no black eumelanin and a small amount of brown eumelanin
• This explains why blonde hair often comes with blue eyes: low eumelanin

Another type is Pheomelanin, which isn’t as important, but still feels a little relevant and is worth mentioning. Pheomelanin is common in green and hazel eyes. Just another obstacle to get to your blue eyes


Importance of Melanin
Eye color isn’t a direct gene. You don’t just get the “Blue eye gene” or “green eye gene” from your parents. The gene only determines eumelanin and pheomelanin levels. Meaning that if you change the eumelanin or pheomelanin levels you store, your eyes will be lighter.

Brown eyes and black eyes have the potential to be green or blue, no matter what.

The goal of getting brighter irises is to strip the melanin from the Iris pigment epithelium


Iris pigment epithelium
It’s the colored part of the iris. Contains the melanin and chromatophores that make up the eye color.
View attachment 4671392 If you’re concerned about chromatophores affecting eye color, they only very slightly affect the shade depending on how light your environment is. If you stare into the sun, then your bright blue eyes turn to medium blue eyes. Not that important to the thread.

HOLY GRAIL: Pigment Dispersion Syndrome (PDS)​

PDS is defined as a condition characterized by the release of melanin granules from the iris pigment epithelium due to friction between the iris and zonular lenticular structures, potentially leading to trabecular dysfunction and increased ocular pressure, which can result in pigmentary glaucoma.

This is what Ehren used to brighten his eyes, and it obviously worked miracles for him.
View attachment 4671391View attachment 4671393

PDS has often been cast aside for being underresearched or too dangerous, but this isn’t actually that true.
PDS is a well-studied syndrome, so obviously its affects are well studied too.

RISK
PDS can cause the anterior hyaloid, which normally adheres firmly to the posterior lens capsule by the hyaloideocapsular ligament of Weiger, can detach following blunt trauma.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2907041/#:~:text=Abstract,Berger's%20from%20the%20posterior%20chamber.&text=Blunt%20ocular%20trauma%20results%20in,patient%20with%20bilateral%20pigment%20dispersion.

This causes PVD.
Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD), involves the vitreous gel separating from its attachments at the front of the eye (posterior lens capsule) and back of the eye (retina). While PVD is common, especially in people over 50, it can lead to serious, vision-threatening complications if the vitreous pulls too hard on the retina.

In most cases (about 85%), PVD happens without causing serious, permanent vision loss, but it creates noticeable, annoying symptoms that often subside after a few months.

Sudden Increase in Floaters: You may see "squiggles," "dots," or a "ring" (known as a Weiss ring) floating in your vision.
Flashes of Light: You might see lightning-like streaks, usually in your peripheral (side) vision, caused by the vitreous tugging on the retina.
https://www.iowaretina.com/common-eye-disorders/pvd/#:~:text=Many people who develop PVD,be visible to the patient.

If you notice either of these symptoms after making use of PDS over a long time, consult a doctor. Now it’s clear that since this is the main side effect, PDS is actually pretty safe.

HOW TO INDUCE PDS​

The mechanisms behind the formation of PDS are due to the constant rubbing and friction between pigment iris epithelium and lens structures during pupil movements, which tend to occur in the presence of reverse pupillary block and posterior bowing of the iris
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9741933/#:~:text=Reverse pupillary block can occur,, and PG [44].

So by pressing hard on your iris area and slightly moving your finger around, you can create friction between the PIE and lens structures.

This hasn’t been studied or practiced very well, but Ehren claimed that 5 minutes 2-3 times every day will be enough to efficiently render results. I am going to start PDS, and will document the results and effects

Sungazing is Cope (extra bit)​

Sun exposure doesn’t significantly change melanin content, so it won’t cause a noticeable shift in your base eye color.

Do Brown Eyes Get Lighter in the Sun?
Sunlight won’t lighten your brown eyes. You might notice flecks of gold or hazel that seem more prominent in bright light, but this is an illusion. Different lighting conditions can change how your eyes appear, but the actual pigment remains the same.

https://riversideoptometry.vision/can-the-sun-make-your-eyes-lighter/

PLEASE avoid sungazing, dangerous for zero reward, actually hurts progress as UV exposure promotes melanin, it doesn’t strip it.

Closing​

This is definitely the best guide I’ve ever made, please lmk any questions or advice. As far as I know, no thread has covered this in BotB. If you think this thread is worthy, please rep and bump

Obviously you could wear contacts, but that’s not permanent and embarrassing to be found out.
For other solutions that are probably less risky, check out the thread linked in the intro paragraph.

Thanks for reading!

ALso, any ideas on what to call PDS? bc the proper way to say it would be "inducing PDS", so should we give it a proper name? Iris pressing? ehren method? lmk

Spoiler: Tags

@mohi_100 @Feuerwehr @xzylecrey @LukaKhang @Skitsuna

bookmarked
Do this if ur a deathnic and you will become an exotic ethnic

 

[shaneywaney69]

The results are permanent right?
How long until noticeable difference?

 

[remusss]

i will do this everyday on my left eye and if it works i will come back

 

[mohito]

i will do this everyday on my left eye and if it works i will come back

Bro, are u going for the heterochromia look

 

[remusss]

Bro, are u going for the heterochromia look

haha no but it will be funny, dont worry if i see it works i will start on my right eye

 

[SnowyWeather]

The results are permanent right?

yes, but any damage can be treated if caught soon with proper medical help

How long until noticeable difference?

idk

 

[shaneywaney69]

yes, but any damage can be treated if caught soon with proper medical help

idk

I will be doing this, thank you for this good thread.

 

[childishkillah]

 

[SnowyWeather]

I will be doing this, thank you for this good thread.

I'm going to do it as well, lmk how it goes for you so I can make an update thread on the results

? what?

 

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Dnr im fine with my t50

 

[SnowyWeather]

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[SnowyWeather]

@StyIix @Outlander @futureschizo

 

[StyIix]

Introduction​

I’m a darkeyecel, and I’ve been looking for methods to brighten my eyes.
I’ve been searching through BotB, but the only thread about eye color changing is this one by @Alexanderr https://looksmax.org/threads/stroma-eye-color-change-explained-mega-thread.228789/ it’s pretty good with covering the sciences behind eye color, but I’ll also explain the necessary information in this thread.

The main issue I have with that BotB thread is that it only covers options that I can’t afford
The only option I thought I had was wearing color contacts, but I’ve done some research and there’s another method.

This method could be the holy grail for darkeyecels: PDS - Pigment Dispersion Syndrome
PDS isn’t new, but it’s been cast aside as “not researched” or “high risk, no reward” so there’s no BotB threads on it, and very little information about it on here.
TLDR: New FREE method for lightening eyes (PDS) with very little info about it on org, is talked about in this thread.

Why Are Irises Dark?​

Dark Irises are caused by one thing: Melanin
Found in skin, hair, and most importantly: Irises

There are different types, but the most relevant type of melanin to this thread is Eumelanin

Eumelanin:

• Two types: black eumelanin and brown eumelanin, most people have varying amounts of both
• Black hair means more black eumelanin, brown hair means more brown eumelanin

• Blonde hair is caused by no black eumelanin and a small amount of brown eumelanin
• This explains why blonde hair often comes with blue eyes: low eumelanin

Another type is Pheomelanin, which isn’t as important, but still feels a little relevant and is worth mentioning. Pheomelanin is common in green and hazel eyes. Just another obstacle to get to your blue eyes


Importance of Melanin
Eye color isn’t a direct gene. You don’t just get the “Blue eye gene” or “green eye gene” from your parents. The gene only determines eumelanin and pheomelanin levels. Meaning that if you change the eumelanin or pheomelanin levels you store, your eyes will be lighter.

Brown eyes and black eyes have the potential to be green or blue, no matter what.

The goal of getting brighter irises is to strip the melanin from the Iris pigment epithelium


Iris pigment epithelium
It’s the colored part of the iris. Contains the melanin and chromatophores that make up the eye color.
View attachment 4671392 If you’re concerned about chromatophores affecting eye color, they only very slightly affect the shade depending on how light your environment is. If you stare into the sun, then your bright blue eyes turn to medium blue eyes. Not that important to the thread.

HOLY GRAIL: Pigment Dispersion Syndrome (PDS)​

PDS is defined as a condition characterized by the release of melanin granules from the iris pigment epithelium due to friction between the iris and zonular lenticular structures, potentially leading to trabecular dysfunction and increased ocular pressure, which can result in pigmentary glaucoma.

This is what Ehren used to brighten his eyes, and it obviously worked miracles for him.
View attachment 4671391View attachment 4671393

PDS has often been cast aside for being underresearched or too dangerous, but this isn’t actually that true.
PDS is a well-studied syndrome, so obviously its affects are well studied too.

RISK
PDS can cause the anterior hyaloid, which normally adheres firmly to the posterior lens capsule by the hyaloideocapsular ligament of Weiger, can detach following blunt trauma.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2907041/#:~:text=Abstract,Berger's%20from%20the%20posterior%20chamber.&text=Blunt%20ocular%20trauma%20results%20in,patient%20with%20bilateral%20pigment%20dispersion.

This causes PVD.
Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD), involves the vitreous gel separating from its attachments at the front of the eye (posterior lens capsule) and back of the eye (retina). While PVD is common, especially in people over 50, it can lead to serious, vision-threatening complications if the vitreous pulls too hard on the retina.

In most cases (about 85%), PVD happens without causing serious, permanent vision loss, but it creates noticeable, annoying symptoms that often subside after a few months.

Sudden Increase in Floaters: You may see "squiggles," "dots," or a "ring" (known as a Weiss ring) floating in your vision.
Flashes of Light: You might see lightning-like streaks, usually in your peripheral (side) vision, caused by the vitreous tugging on the retina.
https://www.iowaretina.com/common-eye-disorders/pvd/#:~:text=Many people who develop PVD,be visible to the patient.

If you notice either of these symptoms after making use of PDS over a long time, consult a doctor. Now it’s clear that since this is the main side effect, PDS is actually pretty safe.

HOW TO INDUCE PDS​

The mechanisms behind the formation of PDS are due to the constant rubbing and friction between pigment iris epithelium and lens structures during pupil movements, which tend to occur in the presence of reverse pupillary block and posterior bowing of the iris
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9741933/#:~:text=Reverse pupillary block can occur,, and PG [44].

So by pressing hard on your iris area and slightly moving your finger around, you can create friction between the PIE and lens structures.

This hasn’t been studied or practiced very well, but Ehren claimed that 5 minutes 2-3 times every day will be enough to efficiently render results. I am going to start PDS, and will document the results and effects

Sungazing is Cope (extra bit)​

Sun exposure doesn’t significantly change melanin content, so it won’t cause a noticeable shift in your base eye color.

Do Brown Eyes Get Lighter in the Sun?
Sunlight won’t lighten your brown eyes. You might notice flecks of gold or hazel that seem more prominent in bright light, but this is an illusion. Different lighting conditions can change how your eyes appear, but the actual pigment remains the same.

https://riversideoptometry.vision/can-the-sun-make-your-eyes-lighter/

PLEASE avoid sungazing, dangerous for zero reward, actually hurts progress as UV exposure promotes melanin, it doesn’t strip it.

Closing​

This is definitely the best guide I’ve ever made, please lmk any questions or advice. As far as I know, no thread has covered this in BotB. If you think this thread is worthy, please rep and bump

Obviously you could wear contacts, but that’s not permanent and embarrassing to be found out.
For other solutions that are probably less risky, check out the thread linked in the intro paragraph.

Thanks for reading!

ALso, any ideas on what to call PDS? bc the proper way to say it would be "inducing PDS", so should we give it a proper name? Iris pressing? ehren method? lmk

Spoiler: Tags

@mohi_100 @Feuerwehr @xzylecrey @LukaKhang @Skitsuna

High effort thread my T50 eyes will turn to A10

 

[SnowyWeather]

High effort thread my T50 eyes will turn to A10

Thanks, idk abt that, but my goal is T20 to D30-D37

Please rep the guide so I can get into BotB

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

Oh so now we’re giving ourselves syndromes.

 

[SnowyWeather]

Oh so now we’re giving ourselves syndromes.

Down syndrome guide next

 

[SnowyWeather]

Elbastardo eye lightening guide all over again

He was talking abt eye drops n shit

This is specifically for PDS

 

[Outlander]

Eyes are one of the things you definitely shouldn't mess with. Just accept what you've got if you've got good vision, because being blind or vision impaired would be hell

 

[SnowyWeather]

Eyes are one of the things you definitely shouldn't mess with. Just accept what you've got if you've got good vision, because being blind or vision impaired would be hell

I already am vision impaired, so it’s not a very big change

 

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He was talking abt eye drops n shit

This is specifically for PDS

Good thread, bookmarked. Mention me if you post progress.

 

[SnowyWeather]

Just realized this can’t fit BotB requirements bc of the bad Title

 

[Outlander]

I already am vision impaired, so it’s not a very big change

You could get even more vision impaired then. Some risks just ain't worth taking

 

[SnowyWeather]

You could get even more vision impaired then. Some risks just ain't worth taking

I can just get different contacts, or different glasses

My dad is almost legally Blind, and he lives life just fine

I understand your concern, I’m still gonna do this tho

 

[Outlander]

I can just get different contacts, or different glasses

My dad is almost legally Blind, and he lives life just fine

Trust me, he is not living fine if what you say is true. That would be horrible since vision is needed for almost everything somewhat fun and even daily tasks

I understand your concern, I’m still gonna do this tho

Your choice, but I sure wouldn't mess with my eyes. Didn't even read the whole post because I know I'd never tamper with eyes of all things

 

[SnowyWeather]

Trust me, he is not living fine if what you say is true. That would be horrible since vision is needed for almost everything somewhat fun and even daily tasks

He just wears glasses or contacts

Your choice, but I sure wouldn't mess with my eyes. Didn't even read the whole post because I know I'd never tamper with eyes of all things

Fair enough, this is relatively low risk as far as eye changing methods go.

 

[Outlander]

He just wears glasses or contacts

And that makes him see normally? As far as I know anyone considered legally blind is gonna see for shit even with glasses or contacts

Fair enough, this is relatively low risk as far as eye changing methods go.

Maybe so, but eyes are so crucial I'd never take ANY risk. That's why I wear safety glasses when using a grinder or other power tool that is likely to send shrapnel in the face.

 

[stressful]

bump this shit

 

[SnowyWeather]

bump this shit

You bumped but not repped

 

[SnowyWeather]

@ltnbrownacnecel @alwazzab

 

[ltnbrownacnecel]

@ltnbrownacnecel @alwazzab

U can't change ur eye color at all without surgery it's impossible there are only slight natural changes as u age. Everything else is cope just differences in lighting or filters.

 

[SnowyWeather]

U can't change ur eye color at all without surgery it's impossible there are only slight natural changes as u age. Everything else is cope just differences in lighting or filters.

Boi

Literally cited sources from med studies

 

[ltnbrownacnecel]

Boi

Literally cited sources from med studies

Show me a before and after that's not like 20 years apart.

Elbastardo eye lightening guide all over again

That guy is literally a schizo . "muh my eye color changed from brown to hazel" and it's literally pitch black .

 

[kvnut]

Good thread but, the pigment will have to drain out of the eye through the trabecular meshwork, which could potentially block aqueous humor outflow which would in turn cause some sort of pressure build up in the eyes? Seems kinda dangerous bhai

 

[clock]

So by pressing hard on your iris area and slightly moving your finger around, you can create friction between the PIE and lens structures.

This hasn’t been studied or practiced very well, but Ehren claimed that 5 minutes 2-3 times every day will be enough to efficiently render results. I am going to start PDS, and will document the results and effects

doubt you’re actually gonna follow through on this, probably not going to work, good luck though.

 

[SnowyWeather]

Show me a before and after that's not like 20 years apart.

D60-C30 over 4 years of natural PDS, purposeful would prob be faster