Let me tell you what's really true about height

[Germania]

I will now explain the height thing to you, because there are many people here with a lack of life experience and just don't understand it, although it is a relatively simple subject. It is about dating, not about the other areas of life, which are influenced by looks, like career etc.. This all refers only to western countries!

First of all, yes this graph is correct, but it does not show everything by far.

Take for example a man of 5'10" and a man of 6'1"+. Let's do an easy math projection. There are 84,000,000 people living in Germany, 50% of them are women, so 42,000,000. 80% of them are either too young or too old, so 8.4 million women remain at a suitable age. Of these, half have a serious relationship, so 4.2 million women remain.

Now 5'10" is acceptable as a height for "only" 77% of the women, leaving 3.2 million potential women for him.

But 6'1" would still be good for nearly every women, 4.2 million.

Right? No!

Now, however, we are moving on, as height is only the first barrier to overcome.

Suppose the 5'10" guy has a good face, good body, good game, carisma, status, communicative skills, is mentally healthy and no aspie. That means that 3.2 million women would be theoretically interested in him.

Assuming the 6'1"+ guy has no good face, no good body, no game, no carisma, no communicative skills, aspie, no status. That means that 0 women would be theoretically interested in him.

(The basketball player is a bad example because he has status and money, but you know what I mean)


Let's take a methaper

Height is always the first hurdle to overcome in the attraction, after that comes everything else. But body size alone means (meitens) nothing. It's like having two bars. In one bar only men with 6'1"+ are allowed and there is every single drink to choose from. In the other bar only 5'10" men are allowed and there are a little less drinks, but still enough, about 77% of the drinks from the other bar.
If you don't have any fucking money (face, game, status, carisma, communication skills and so on) then you can't buy a single fucking drink in the 6'1" plus bar!!!!
But if you have a full wallet, you can drink yourself into a coma in the 5'10" bar.

Do you finally get it?

 

[imparatorluk]

high iq thread

 

[Pinhead]

giga iq based poster who understands pool size of women and the looks multipliers for said pool

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[TeenagePharmacy]

Height's kinda cope, not gonna stop me from heightmaxing though. Look at Ye, he's only 5'8 and married to the top model on the planet.

 

[Deleted member 5393]

this is a dumb as shit post.

 

[Mr.cope]

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[SpearOfOrion]

height is cope unless you're below 5'11 or something.

 

[Pinhead]

Posts: 1069
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implying people can't eventually see the light and make a giga iq post

mr.cope for a reason 2bqh

 

[Mr.cope]

This is literally water
Face>height

This is literally water
Face>height

But only for 5’11 up anything shorter than that is too short

 

[TUSSELEIF]

I’m 5’11 and I was taller than loads of men when I was out today, and I live in fucking Scandinavia

 

[Deleted member 5393]

I’m 5’11 and I was taller than loads of men when I was out today, and I live in fucking Scandinavia

yes most guys are short af even in Scandinavia.

im 6'3 and i heightmog everyone so hard. i feel like a giant here.

 

[Chadeep]

All the Aspies here say 6'4 or Rope. I just got Heightmogged by a 6'7 guy it's over. I mean You can't have it all Rare to See Guys with Chad Face and Tall Height with good frame.

 

[.🇹🇩.]

height is cope. I am 6'5 and still virgin kissless motherfucker

 

[FootLongDong]

Height's kinda cope, not gonna stop me from heightmaxing though. Look at Ye, he's only 5'8 and married to the top model on the planet.

Kim k is an ugly hobbit without her make up/surgery’s/fotoshop.
Just really bad DNA nothing I want my offspring to have

 

[Nisse]

high iq thread

Ok gaycel

 

[Slyfex8]

Didn't read: Being 5ft10 and you are good, that's all.

And 5ft9 is the minimum to be considered human.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Do you finally get it?

Legit.
If you meet the height standard, as man. You still need 3 more ENTRY level hurdles to overcome, to even have an chance. A fair amount of dudes that are over 6 feet tall fall off, because they lack the other4

Actually, there are 4 hurdles that need tp be corssed. Before you have a potential chance, in general, with decent looking women.
1. height body
2. penis size (micropenis = game over) *1
3. (good enough) face
4. some social skills / NT (can talk, not aspie, not overly anxious/nervous/introvert/shy)

I'm a semi example of this, I tink. Of this 4 hurdles system. I was incel untill mid 20's. While I was 6'2 and have good penis size. But muh face was normie at best on a good day and most often low tier normie, also I was NT but still mor introverted, nervous and shy then the average dude so that also was a bit off a trun off for womens.
I managed to get out of incelhood at mid 20's. because upping my grooming and styling game a little (contact lenses, etc. (should had done more off that looking back)) which imporved my face a little, and mostly putting myself in plenty social situations and places (exposure "therapy" approach) so to become more relaxed in socialising etc... Aka looking more NT
.


*1 proof on micropenis = game over.
"Contour map of the fitness surface (red: more attractive, blue: least attractive) for (A) penis length and shoulder-to-hip ratio (height controlled) and (B) penis length and height (shoulder-to-hip ratio controlled) (1 = mean attractiveness)."

As you can see, in both pics. micro penis is game over. I mean. A dude that is 6 feet (180cm) and has a 6 cm penis, is in the blue. Which means Game Over.
Extra penis length after being average adds some extra attractiveness, bit not so much. It enters the teritory of deminishing returns.
Whereas when short penis. You can see in the color graph; it's game over, everything is blue. Even when you are tall .

source:

Penis size interacts with body shape and height to influence male attractiveness

Compelling evidence from many animal taxa indicates that male genitalia are often under postcopulatory sexual selection for characteristics that increase a male’s relative fertilization success. There could, however, also be direct precopulatory female mate choice based on male genital traits...

www.pnas.org

 

[Vitruvian]

if u are 5'10 above average its not over, but you are still mogged by a 6'1 average guy. and most tall people aren't ugly, they are average looking.

 

[Germania]

if u are 5'10 above average its not over, but you are still mogged by a 6'1 average guy. and most tall people aren't ugly, they are average looking.

I don't think so

 

[thecel]

this is a dumb as shit post.

Wut? This is a very high-IQ thread

 

[eduardkoopman]

height is cope unless you're below 5'11 or something.

I agree. After like 5'11. Extra height adds to attractiveness, but it's the land of dimishing returns. The extra attractiveness increase will be limited above 5'11. BUT there is a massive gain in attractiveness, (because hitting entry level criteria) from 5'4 -> 5'10. After that 5'11 type of range is flattens out quickly.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

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Lol at this.

It's stating the obvious but in an elaborate way for these incels who live in a fantasy world believing if they just had "x, y and z" going on in their face, women would flock to them nonstop.

It's all down to frame. Your looks, height and way you carry yourself.

Obviously being 2 inches taller with an average face, no charisma, game or status is a failo.

I appreciate the OP's effort, but really he is stating no-more than what most people should surely know by now. It's obvious. He's just dumbed it down so low IQs or people who've had very little social interaction in bars, clubs and various other places can understand it's about balance.

Once you're 5'10, only women who are 5'11+ are going to be heightist against you. Unless you get the cranky ones at 5'9 who want guys they won't tower over with 5 inch heels, but even then they'll use their 2/3 inch heels. That's reality.

Women aren't against guys 5'10-6'0 feet tall. They just say if they could ideally choose a guy then he would be 6'1, 6'2 or 6'3.

5'10 with a good face, relatability and masculinity and they honestly don't and won't care. As long as your frame is in check (Face, Height & Presence) it's all good. You can get away with saying daft things and they'll excuse you, as long as you don't make it a habit.

 

[AussieCurry]

Wut? This is a very high-IQ thread

height is not a halo in of its self except for certain niches. it is a barrier though

 

[Deleted member 5393]

Wut? This is a very high-IQ thread

you cant just assume theres 1 pool of women who are identical in everything except what height they like.

hot girls care more about masculinity than some nerdy bookworm girl does. And tall girls care more about height.

 

[eduardkoopman]

height is cope. I am 6'5 and still virgin kissless motherfucker

I 6'2. Was incel untill mid 20's.
Mainly because of face.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

I love when everyone now a days thinks something is high IQ because it's explained in an elaborate broken-down way, lol

It's just using a bunch of data to state the obvious.

 

[Over]

Ideal male height is 5'2 anyways so why should I worry?

@Simone Nobili thoughts?

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Barely any of us here need to know that 5'10 is the cut off point and that if you as a 5,10 man bring more to the table in-terms of looks, body, charisma, masculinity and intelligence, then you're going to crush the 6'1 guy. Height after 5'10 is next to meaningless. Yes it gives you a bit of an extra edge in-terms of picking-up and hooking-up there on that night, but that's it. We know there are girls who love the 6'4 guy and will cave to him regardless of how dumb he is.

 

[eduardkoopman]

It's all down to frame. Your looks, height and way you carry yourself is your frame.

Do you know what is bad frame for men?.
As in:
* bad shoulder hip ratio
* average shoulder hip ratio
* good shoulder hip ratio

 

[Deleted member 2352]

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Ideal male height is 5'2 anyways so why should I worry?

@Simone Nobili thoughts?

Yes bro 5 ft 2 is ideal
You never have to pay adult ticket at cinema and bus

 

[Dog face]

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Do you know what is bad frame for men?.
As in:
* bad shoulder hip ratio
* average shoulder hip ratio
* good shoulder hip ratio

Yes. I know about the V taper.

height is not a halo in of its self except for certain niches. it is a barrier though

Height is a halo.

If being below 5'10 is a failo, then being 5'10 or above is a halo.

Think about it, logically.

 

[Deleted member 2352]

Yes. I know about the V taper.

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Height is a halo.

If being below 5'10 is a failo, then being 5'10 or above is a halo.

Think about it, logically.

Being above 5 ft 10 is not a fucking halo jfl

 

[Germania]

Actually it's a bit more difficult and blackpilled. To be a proud and desirable man, you need EVERYTHING!

Acceptable height (I would say that with 5'8 "+ you have an okish dating pool only based on height, see my first post), good face, good frame, good game, good body, carisma, communication skills, status, money (in the west average income is enough, since this is actually quite high) interesting personality and an interesting life, style and so on. You need EVERYTHING!

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Being above 5 ft 10 is not a fucking halo jfl

Yeah may be not if your face is at a psl3

 

[GrayEyedBarrett]

Height's kinda cope, not gonna stop me from heightmaxing though. Look at Ye, he's only 5'8 and married to the top model on the planet.

height is cope bro

 

[Deleted member 5061]

Kim k is an ugly hobbit without her make up/surgery’s/fotoshop.
Just really bad DNA nothing I want my offspring to have

yeah there are unfrauded pictures of her "thick ass" out there, like her being somewhere on a beach etc. Her thighs and ass looks disgusting af, full with cellulites etc.

Other than that, she had like 20 procedures done to her face (and probably like 100 in total to her whol ebody) + still has to wear a fully caked face to look somewhat okish.

She is the most overhyped overrated ugly celeb whore. She is even trashier than lindsey lohan tbh. At least lindsey at one point hat legit beauty and was very aesthetic and attractive. Kim Kardashian looks like a bulldog-faced and elephant-assed wannabe latina.

 

[RAITEIII]

Alright, interesting perspective

 

[Baldingman1998]

Legit.
If you meet the height standard, as man. You still need 3 more ENTRY level hurdles to overcome, to even have an chance. A fair amount of dudes that are over 6 feet tall fall off, because they lack the other4

Actually, there are 4 hurdles that need tp be corssed. Before you have a potential chance, in general, with decent looking women.
1. height body
2. penis size (micropenis = game over) *1
3. (good enough) face
4. some social skills / NT (can talk, not aspie, not overly anxious/nervous/introvert/shy)

I'm a semi example of this, I tink. Of this 4 hurdles system. I was incel untill mid 20's. While I was 6'2 and have good penis size. But muh face was normie at best on a good day and most often low tier normie, also I was NT but still mor introverted, nervous and shy then the average dude so that also was a bit off a trun off for womens.
I managed to get out of incelhood at mid 20's. because upping my grooming and styling game a little (contact lenses, etc. (should had done more off that looking back)) which imporved my face a little, and mostly putting myself in plenty social situations and places (exposure "therapy" approach) so to become more relaxed in socialising etc... Aka looking more NT
.


*1 proof on micropenis = game over.
"Contour map of the fitness surface (red: more attractive, blue: least attractive) for (A) penis length and shoulder-to-hip ratio (height controlled) and (B) penis length and height (shoulder-to-hip ratio controlled) (1 = mean attractiveness)."

As you can see, in both pics. micro penis is game over. I mean. A dude that is 6 feet (180cm) and has a 6 cm penis, is in the blue. Which means Game Over.
Extra penis length after being average adds some extra attractiveness, bit not so much. It enters the teritory of deminishing returns.
Whereas when short penis. You can see in the color graph; it's game over, everything is blue. Even when you are tall .

source:

Penis size interacts with body shape and height to influence male attractiveness

Compelling evidence from many animal taxa indicates that male genitalia are often under postcopulatory sexual selection for characteristics that increase a male’s relative fertilization success. There could, however, also be direct precopulatory female mate choice based on male genital traits...

www.pnas.org

The shoulder to hip ratio gave me life fuel tbh. I have big hips and wide shoulders and got 1.45/1.47 ratio with 2 different pictures although most said my frame is bad so idk.

 

[stillsteppin]

Height's kinda cope, not gonna stop me from heightmaxing though. Look at Ye, he's only 5'8 and married to the top model on the planet.

Yes nigga but as recently as the early 2010s Kanye was still one of the biggest rappers in the world, not to mention he was THE biggest one at one point (shared with Lil Wayne)

 

[TeenagePharmacy]

Yes nigga but as recently as the early 2010s Kanye was still one of the biggest rappers in the world, not to mention he was THE biggest one at one point (shared with Lil Wayne)

Yes. Status >>>>>> height.

 

[goodman78]

Being above 5 ft 10 is not a fucking halo jfl

retard
u should try being 5'10 and under with the subhuman face of yours and we'd see how it ends

 

[TITUS]

This whole thread is manlet's cope. Im saying this being myself 183cm and about to fraudmax 5cm+ with insoles and boots.
Height=PSL, the more height the more PSL. There is a point where you enter diminishing returns and maybe there's a height that is simply too high and repels a few foids, depending on the average height of the region.
Being 6'4 equals more PSL than being 6'1, the rest is manlet's cope. This whole thread is saying that you just need an above average face because 98% of foids would date an above average face, COPE.

 

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[Xxxpazxxx]

High iq thread i agree asf

 

[Julius]

Probably high IQ thread but you didn't explain everything: suppose there are a 6'1" guy and a 6'4" guy, so both have heights that are accepted by 99% of girls, does that mean that the 6'4" guy doesn't have any advantage/halo whatsoever compared to the 6'1" guy?

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Probably high IQ thread but you didn't explain everything: suppose there are a 6'1" guy and a 6'4" guy, so both have heights that are accepted by 99% of girls, does that mean that the 6'4" guy doesn't have any advantage/halo whatsoever compared to the 6'1" guy?

no

 

[Germania]

This whole thread is manlet's cope. Im saying this being myself 183cm and about to fraudmax 5cm+ with insoles and boots.
Height=PSL, the more height the more PSL. There is a point where you enter diminishing returns and maybe there's a height that is simply too high and repels a few foids, depending on the average height of the region.
Being 6'4 equals more PSL than being 6'1, the rest is manlet's cope. This whole thread is saying that you just need an above average face because 98% of foids would date an above average face, COPE.

You didn't understand it, right?

 

[Germania]

Probably high IQ thread but you didn't explain everything: suppose there are a 6'1" guy and a 6'4" guy, so both have heights that are accepted by 99% of girls, does that mean that the 6'4" guy doesn't have any advantage/halo whatsoever compared to the 6'1" guy?

There is not only face + height, there are other important factors.

 

[TITUS]

You didn't understand it, right?

I did understand that this thread is full of manlet copers. First of all you should post the whole study if there is any, else we should treat those graphs as just some graphs that manlets like to post on manlet cope threads.

The fact that 99% girls would date 6'1 doesn't mean that 6'3 isn't going to be much more successful in getting their pussies wet. In fact those extra 2 inches will give him some amount of PSL, how much is it, i don't know, but maybe a lot.
Furthermore height is situational, it depends on the country/region average, good luck dating 98% of girls at 6' in the balkans.
The best post in the whole thread is eduardkoopman's, and it still is insuficient to correlate height and PSL beyond 6'1.

PS: Better order your height fraud insoles on aliexpress already.