Let's say we are in a marriage(theoretically)

[Deleted member 10913]

A man cannot have 4 wives in any situation, there a re speciifc rulings to this, where the man must treat them equally (it goes beyond just lovign equally. Women and men aren't biologically programmed, its obviouis that looks do matter but saying that it is what determines people's goals and mindsets is irrelevent. Because it goes beyond that in terms of demeaning them.

We can´t deny that it plays effect on peoples goals. It even changes pollitical outcome? to what extend is obviously up for debate. I have personally not heard of any one who is blackpilled and rejects free choice, if that is what you mention.. Other then that it has effect on our mindset, on how we treat people and so forth

The statement that "looks matter" isn't bad in Islam, like I said before it's what goes beyond it.

What's the beyond? do you have any quote or any post that is a clear example of what goes beyond

Nope, each person can objectively look good to different people (inb4 bluepill), women choose whomever they deem to be goodlooking at vice versa, there are some who look just for looks, but it isn't clear cut.

What about the two tribes where from one the males where more attractive and the other had more attractive females. Imo some tribes seem to be more attractive to the eyes of females. Even in Turkey our women go out of their city in persuit of white kemalists for they are on average more handsome looking then Anatolids. Our women all go to western universities where they dominate,

The porn addicted muslim is a guy who got into it, and one must fix himself before he fixes others and must live with princiuples of islam. people talk about jihad this, kuffar that, sects, when they can barely maintain it themselves, as for infidel hunter lmao, may allah guide him

nonetheless it's not easy for him to leave tho. Things like this are difficult. For infidel hunter i mean yea, may Allah guide him. Wish him the best, hope he ascends and leave this edgelord bs

 

[AbuSAF]

We can´t deny that it plays effect on peoples goals. It even changes pollitical outcome? to what extend is obviously up for debate. I have personally not heard of any one who is blackpilled and rejects free choice, if that is what you mention.. Other then that it has effect on our mindset, on how we treat people and so forth

What's the beyond? do you have any quote or any post that is a clear example of what goes beyond

What about the two tribes where from one the males where more attractive and the other had more attractive females. Imo some tribes seem to be more attractive to the eyes of females. Even in Turkey our women go out of their city in persuit of white kemalists for they are on average more handsome looking then Anatolids. Our women all go to western universities where they dominate,

nonetheless it's not easy for him to leave tho. Things like this are difficult. For infidel hunter i mean yea, may Allah guide him. Wish him the best, hope he ascends and leave this edgelord bs

In the ahadith it’s said to always maintain a positive and clean and maintained outside self, because it does matter. I’m saying that LOOKS do matter, no one has ever denied that except for redditors, the issue lies when. The conversation twists into needing to get surgery, roiding, starving urself to lose weight, and the constant obsession in vanity over yourself with pride and arrogance.
Yes people will make choices based on it, and some will completely rely on it, but those people aren’t the best people to be in relationships with in the start. Majority of women and men included do not solely rely on looks alone.

what goes beyond this? Ur telling me blackpill discussion and facts solely base around that looks are important a lot! Majority are about racism, dividing people hating others, some retarded plan to I,prove themselves etc. There’s lots more that is beyond blackpill.

i never denied that their are normal women who pursue someone better looking, allahualam why they do it. But those aren’t the majority, girls like that IRL aren’t like the best that would match with someone’s personality, because like I said before, they are also focused on vanity.

porn is something that can be forgiven as it is even an I going process, I simply meant you cannot even pray when you have masturbated, so how can the people like that start lecturing about to society and their fall from standards, and hate for Liberal Muslims (I am traditionalist mind you) where they talk about moderacy even though they complete more of the 5 pillars and stray from the haram more than them. They all have mistakes, but you cannot propose superiority

 

[Deleted member 10913]

Yes people will make choices based on it, and some will completely rely on it, but those people aren’t the best people to be in relationships with in the start. Majority of women and men included do not solely rely on looks alone.

For the most part absolute majority of people do.. While men are more flexible in what they find attractive Women on the otherhand can only be attracted to people above their own looks. I agree that surgical procedures are a waste and for the most part unlawful but do you think it's entirely forbidden? if so how are women still able to get virginity restorations as this is clearly something done to increase your looks.

Liberal Muslims (I am traditionalist mind you) where they talk about moderacy even though they complete more of the 5 pillars and stray from the haram more than them. They all have mistakes, but you cannot propose superiority

I doubt liberal Muslims stay on the 5 pillars. In the end anyone can never drink in their life and still leave Islam if he thinks that Allah didn't forbid it. On the otherhand someone can someone drink their whole life and understand that Allah c.c forbid it. This is the diffrence. Nobody claims this while liberals 'Muslims' are likely to bend the rules for their own benefit.