LGD-4033 during puberty worth it?

[ㅤ:3]

i just wanna hit 64kg asap tbh my mom used to be a model and designer so i could be at an agency as soon as i hit goal weight

i thought debloating was going to be the hardest part of looksmaxing, turns out it was building mass effectively

well im sure running rad for 1-2 months will give u the same amount of mass LGD will in 4-6 minths prob

both are gonna supress you alot, Id recommend taking Enclo + NAC and if ur forgetting.

any estrogen blocker aka Arimidex maybe DIM

im 1 month into my clean bulk and im up only 1kg so yea, its hard

 

[KeepCopingLads]

yup especially the wrist part. its a lose lose when you wear sweaters or short sleeves. and when you wear sweaters that fit tight they make you look like a framelet

thats why i wear long sleeves
but outside of school i just wear normal t shirts cus i dont care any more

 

[ㅤ:3]

this nigga might be my twin or some shit
same

im tryna get to 67kg so i can cut till 62-64kg

 

[medialcanthus]

this nigga might be my twin or some shit
same

64-70kg is literally ideal for pretty boys or overall not facially testmaxed looking guys with a decent frame

clothing silhouettes look super good, you dont look as skinny in tight clothes as a woman, and you arent seen as underweight and unhealthy looking if your shirt isnt off. all the models and performative lana del rey niggas are in this range

 

[medialcanthus]

im tryna get to 67kg so i can cut till 62-64kg

67

what weight are you at rn? 67 kg isnt bad imho, i have a best friend who is also an HTN and 2 years older than me who is about 67 kg, and he is slightly less GL than me facially yet there is a noticeable difference. When we go out we both get attention a lot yet i find his interactions are more solid, clothes also look so much better on him. hes slightly taller like an inch. If we were the same weight i can guarantee the difference would be night and day even with me already getting women

 

[ㅤ:3]

67

what weight are you at rn? 67 kg isnt bad imho, i have a best friend who is also an HTN and 2 years older than me who is about 67 kg, and he is slightly less GL than me facially yet there is a noticeable difference. When we go out we both get attention a lot yet i find his interactions are more solid, clothes also look so much better on him. hes slightly taller like an inch. If we were the same weight i can guarantee the difference would be night and day even with me already getting women

59kg rn

i think ill look good at 64kg 10% bodyfat, maybe ill slowly bulk after

 

[Linus1888]

obviously doing bloodwork before but im not starting with a test base bc i dont want plate closure

Then you also shouldn’t be so sure about the enclomiphene. Test + AI would be the better alternative obviously/best alternative.

I’m also not a fan at all of mk677. You will be hungry enough from the enclo alone and you will make good gains.

As you’re really light though I don’t think the lgd + enclo cycle will be enough for you after you hop off as you’ll lose the pumped watery look.

I’d recommend Test + Ai + HCG + Dut. You can really run that as long as you want, the HCG is only there to make your balls look normal.

I’d safe for that and drop the idea of lgd and enclo, I mean you can still add the lgd to that stack but I wouldn’t do my cycle ever again tbf, great to get into it but there are many downsides and better alternatives

 

[medialcanthus]

59kg rn

i think ill look good at 64kg 10% bodyfat, maybe ill slowly bulk after

64kg is the sweet spot for lean/skinny model weight (under 18 yrs old)

 

[imontheloose]

idk i've never even heard of it. @imontheloose maybe?

The quicker you accept that there is no miracle drug that is going to grow you past your genetic destiny or whatever it promises, the quicker you can focus on acquiring money for surgery (the only looksmax).

 

[drio]

stats 16 still growing/ htn /5'10-11/ 55kg planning 2 consistent weeks of training pre cycle and currently on a clean bulk

the plan is 8 weeks of LGD 5-7.5 mg a day overtime with 15mg MK677 (for max hunger/bulk and good sleep)
with 4 weeks of enclo as PCT and maybe enclo during (week 2 to 4) to not feel the suppression as much
and NAC

obviously doing bloodwork before but im not starting with a test base bc i dont want plate closure

the reason for this cycle is obviously for more mass, my frame is wide, im lean and i have good insertions, but mass is really bad
i used to be treated like a GOD in middle school, before building muscle was relevant and only face mattered
so i need to keep up, there are literally LTNs getting chad level glaze just for being jacked, and by 17 i will be in university, so GGs if i dont bulk up

the main risk i want to avoid as much as possible is plate closure or stunted growth, because the doctors said my final height will likely be around 6'2
need some insight if it might be too early

@SlayerJonas @vincentzygo @Linus1888 @Copercel @Hernan

Test base bro pls

 

[NeedBoneMassASAP]

67

what weight are you at rn? 67 kg isnt bad imho, i have a best friend who is also an HTN and 2 years older than me who is about 67 kg, and he is slightly less GL than me facially yet there is a noticeable difference. When we go out we both get attention a lot yet i find his interactions are more solid, clothes also look so much better on him. hes slightly taller like an inch. If we were the same weight i can guarantee the difference would be night and day even with me already getting women

I am 67kg rn at 184cm at 17 years of age. (i went from 57 to 67 in 2 months) im not happy with it tbh. I kinda want more mass but then i also want to be lean. I look better physique wise but i look worse face wise. Ive noticed that the problem with the face is only temporary and will go away as time goes by.

 

[medialcanthus]

I am 67kg rn at 184cm at 17 years of age. (i went from 57 to 67 in 2 months)

put me on howd you get 10kg so fast? were you on any compounds?

im not happy with it tbh. I kinda want more mass but then i also want to be lean. I look better physique wise but i look worse face wise. Ive noticed that the problem with the face is only temporary and will go away as time goes by.

tbh at least leaning out is faster you can do cardio if youre not above 15-18% bf you can lean out fast

clothes probably also fit a lot better on you now no? im envious

 

[medialcanthus]

The quicker you accept that there is no miracle drug that is going to grow you past your genetic destiny or whatever it promises, the quicker you can focus on acquiring money for surgery (the only looksmax).

im a richcel funny of you to assume i have this problem jfl

by 18 i can get any surgery i want
the thing is, i'm not even close to 18, so i can't do anything with your advice x2

 

[peptidecel10]

Taking an AI during teen years is a nice way to guarantee being a retard for life

 

[medialcanthus]

Taking an AI during teen years is a nice way to guarantee being a retard for life

elaborate peptidecel10

 

[peptidecel10]

Taking an AI will tank your E2
Tanking your E2 during brain development (until around 24-25) will stunt your brain growth and make you a retard

 

[peptidecel10]

You only wanna MICRO-dose ai's if you have big milky tits

 

[medialcanthus]

Taking an AI will tank your E2
Tanking your E2 during brain development (until around 24-25) will stunt your brain growth and make you a retard

which is why only low dose AI is recommended

the only thing ive considered recently is test + low dose AI as LGD is definitely not worth it
the tradeoff is hellish as i would need TRT for life but it would give me insane amounts of dimorphism

 

[peptidecel10]

which is why only low dose AI is recommended

the only thing ive considered recently is test + low dose AI as LGD is definitely not worth it
the tradeoff is hellish as i would need TRT for life but it would give me insane amounts of dimorphism

if your gonna take it either way your gonna wanna monitor your E2 and make sure its not tanked
Make sure its at normal ranges, it doesn't necessarily have to be high or low just normal ranges

 

[peptidecel10]

you might not even need it depending on your dose so start the cycle and dose the AI according to how your E2 levels respond

 

[peptidecel10]

which is why only low dose AI is recommended

the only thing ive considered recently is test + low dose AI as LGD is definitely not worth it
the tradeoff is hellish as i would need TRT for life but it would give me insane amounts of dimorphism

you wouldn't really need TRT for life as long as you have a good PCT