Liberal Monarchy is superior to Democracy

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Authoritarian Monarchy
Dictatorship of all kinds
And Socialism/Communism/Fascism/Natsoc

...are vastly inferior to democracy.

A Liberal Monarchy is superior to Democracy which is also inferior to Anarcho-Capitalist.

Let me give you reason why
Monarchs, unlike democratic rulers, tend to have preferences of Long time saving rule aka enhancing state reserves; therefore, they avoid, if at all possible, wars and high taxes for fear of hurting the state’s long-term capital value. Second, there is a clear distinction between rulers and ruled under a monarchy; this “class consciousness,” as encourages the public to resist governmental excesses

States, by nature, tend to expand, as the rulers try to increase the amount of territory under their jurisdiction. Furthermore, rulers will tend to confiscate wealth at an increasing rate. In short, a state’s rulers naturally utilize its resources for their own benefit.

In a monarchy, the royal family “owns” the state, since the reigning monarch maintains control of the state until his death, passing ownership to his heir. The state is, in effect, privately owned
A monarch will tax his subjects, but he will keep taxes as low as possible because, since he literally “owns” the state, he has an incentive to keep his subjects as productive as possible. High taxes ultimately decrease the state’s long-term capital value because, when people produce things of value, they expect to profit from their work.


However, if taxes are high, they have little incentive to keep producing, as the fruits of their labor will only go to the state. Therefore, as taxes increase, productivity decreases. High taxes, then, reduce the state’s long-term capital value and, therefore, the monarch’s future tax revenue.

As a result, monarchs tend to have low time preferences and thus keep taxes low to maintain the capital value of their taxation monopoly. In fact, monarchs frequently ran their own “normal” businesses so that they did not have to support themselves exclusively with tax revenue.

I will give you an example of this

Currently both Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates Dubai are some of the fastest growing nations and cities because of their nature of monarchy with any given time highest savings rate of 40% and Very high levels of societal stability

Some people may say for example they are inferior in terms of Natural rights provided to citizens of United states

This is inherently the wrong argument to make regarding these society.
These Cities and Meccas inherently do not incorporate these natural rights as their society prefers this culture and way of living

This is in direct contrast to Liechtenstien which was also monarchy for very long time where there is much more natural rights and Same levels of success

I would say that United states is currently Inferior to Dubai,Cayman islands, Liechtenstien etc. as the US although founded in a superior construction of BOTH natural rights and economic freedom is currently performing mediocre in Both these categories .

There is for example the 2nd amendment which is in my opinion the most important right written in any constitution which has been distorted to only MEAN people can have guns

People should have guns AND there should be no standing millitary that is superior to the militia of the STATE

When Americans vote to increase millitary budget or atleast allow such gigantic federal millitary to exist THEY ARE VIOLATING the 2nd amendment.

America also has high progressive taxes,higher corporate taxes than canada and most importantly a worldwide recipient tax with 8000 pages of regulations.

So WHILE DUBAI,Cayman islands, Saudi arabia are specific society that do not base themselves over the Natural rights instead choosing outdated religion

they are still successful more so than america since they are working on the basis of their own model and morality.

i won't even talk about Europe/Britain/other place
Their Monarchy and democracy both are a failure


TLDR-> there is no tldr this time read this it's something that might give you a different perspective
 
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Let me give examples for Indians
Maharaja Rama Varma XV (r. 1895–1914) and successors prioritized development in this small coastal state.
  • Taxation:
    • Land taxes were lower than in northern states, ~20–25% of produce, due to a prosperous economy (rice, coconut, trade). The state diversified revenue via port duties at Kochi, reducing peasant tax burdens.
    • Taxes funded education (high literacy, ~50% by 1941), health, and railways, with no evidence of widespread poverty from over-taxation.
    • Cochin’s budget (~₹1 crore by 1940s) was modest but balanced, reflecting efficient governance.

This was when India overall literacy was 16%

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Cool take but it kinda romanticizes monarchy a bit too much. some monarchs care about the long game, but there’s zero guarantee the next heir won’t be a total disaster. At least in a democracy you can vote the idiots out. Dubai and Saudi are rich mostly 'cause of oil and cheap migrant labor, not because monarchy is some cheat code for good governance. Plus, no free speech, no political opposition feels more like a golden cage than real stability. Democracies are messy, but they give people a say and a chance to fix things.
 
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Cool take but it kinda romanticizes monarchy a bit too much. some monarchs care about the long game, but there’s zero guarantee the next heir won’t be a total disaster. At least in a democracy you can vote the idiots out. Dubai and Saudi are rich mostly 'cause of oil and cheap migrant labor, not because monarchy is some cheat code for good governance. Plus, no free speech, no political opposition feels more like a golden cage than real stability. Democracies are messy, but they give people a say and a chance to fix things.
Haha this is the point
You see it's this myth that keeps people from understanding why democracy is de-civillization to monarchy

Less than 10% of the Dubais economy depends on oil revenues, with the majority generated from international trade and tourism. A tolerant, cosmopolitan, and culturally diverse city, roughly 85% of its population is comprised of non-citizens.

One more myth is that dubai is very recent success
Reality is that Dubai has long been a crossroads of trade, barter, and informal cash transfers. Historically it has weathered many efforts by colonial powers and foreign governments to control its economic destiny. This began in the 1800s when the British imposed an exclusive trade arrangement monopolizing its lucrative trade links with India. More recently, Dubai traders created black markets in gold, helping Indian expatriates to bypass India’s ban on gold futures trading from 1962-2004. Dubai traders have also helped import consumer electronics and clothing into nearby Iran, helping people there sidestep US economic sanctions (which only apply to US corporations).

In a region of the world not known for economic freedom, market capitalism has deep roots. Dubai is a key center of hawala, an unregulated private system of payments and currency trading between the Middle East, South Asia, and Southeast Asia. Similar to a banking system of clearing checks, hawala brokers facilitate transactions and money transfers for a 1%-2% commission. For less money than a typical bank rate, the centuries-old payments system eases currency and gold transfers between Dubai’s many migrant laborers and their families abroad

This is why for example migrants go to work there.

One more example i provided was liechistien which has the same wealth of dubai but it has the most underrated freedom compared to dubai society not found in any democracy

In Liechtenstien entire cantonals can Secede from the state of they feel like it
This freedom alone surpasses all freedoms ever found in democracy
And you know why this is?
Hans adam II the monarch of Liechtenstien in 2000s

Liechtenstien also never went to any single war in 20th century
The reason was also monarchy
People naturally distrusted monarchy in their heart and never funded the state of Liechtenstien to ever cause it

Liberal democracy will never ever allow this to happen but liberal monarchy did

Private property,Natural rights were preserved because the nature of monarchy was it that it Antagonised the people and status quo

People never see the status quo as the same as rest of the public
 
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Cool take but it kinda romanticizes monarchy a bit too much. some monarchs care about the long game, but there’s zero guarantee the next heir won’t be a total disaster. At least in a democracy you can vote the idiots out. Dubai and Saudi are rich mostly 'cause of oil and cheap migrant labor, not because monarchy is some cheat code for good governance. Plus, no free speech, no political opposition feels more like a golden cage than real stability. Democracies are messy, but they give people a say and a chance to fix things.
Due to both our understanding of genetics and nurture being the two biggest factors in a childs development I hope you can realise your stupidity when it comes to the heir debate.

The problem with democracy is it inherently a system of theft, all great leaders of the past knew this including the founding fathers of America.
 
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Good thread, I assume you recently read hoppe ?
 
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Good thread, I assume you recently read hoppe ?
Yes democracy the god that failed

I recently checked the success of liechistien and how did it arrive to it

Hans-Adam succeeded in a libertarian “reform from above” when Liechtensteiners approved his package of constitutional amendments in 2003. Beattie (2004a, p. 176) notes that Article I was amended to read: “The purpose of the Principality of Liechtenstein is to enable the people living within its borders to live in freedom and peace with each other.” This sentence, Beattie (2004a, p. 176) says, was inserted “to emphasise that membership of the State is based on free will and that the State is not an end in itself.” Under democracy, however, the state tends to indeed become “an end in itself.”

Tax evasion is also a civil offense rather than a crime in that country
Business get no subsidy

And MOST importantly you can Secede from it
 
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Good thread, I assume you recently read hoppe ?
Hoppe rothbard Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn paul gottfried Karl Ludwig von Haller.
Brilliant minds who changed my perspective of many things
 
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Thread reads like Enchanted Elixir ngl
 
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DNR tldr
 
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Hoppe rothbard Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn paul gottfried Karl Ludwig von Haller.
Brilliant minds who changed my perspective of many things
My next book read is going to be hoppe, idk which book exactly to start with but I don't think it will matter much
 
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TL;DR:
Liberal monarchies can outperform democracies because monarchs have long-term incentives to preserve wealth and stability. Examples like Dubai and Liechtenstein show success without relying on Western natural rights. In contrast, the U.S. is declining due to high taxes, regulation, and a bloated military. Anarcho-Capitalism is argued to be even better.
 
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I must say, i agree
 
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TL;DR:
Liberal monarchies can outperform democracies because monarchs have long-term incentives to preserve wealth and stability. Examples like Dubai and Liechtenstein show success without relying on Western natural rights. In contrast, the U.S. is declining due to high taxes, regulation, and a bloated military. Anarcho-Capitalism is argued to be even better.
Misses nuances that you only get with the full text
 
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TL;DR:
Liberal monarchies can outperform democracies because monarchs have long-term incentives to preserve wealth and stability. Examples like Dubai and Liechtenstein show success without relying on Western natural rights. In contrast, the U.S. is declining due to high taxes, regulation, and a bloated military. Anarcho-Capitalism is argued to be even better.
The bloated millitary is incorrect
I am talking in relationship with 2nd amendment and why standing federal millitary was wrong as it goes against the nature of that amendment
Not the size of millitary
 
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