
InanimatePragmatist
There is nothing for your genetics.
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@looks>books You know, this place is not for a man of your conviction. There is no god in genetics or nature.
OG OP post https://looksmax.org/threads/blackp...fect-youre-not-as-smart-as-you-think.1492152/
Yet the comfort of lies. Ah, the classic rebuke. The promise of meaning, wrapped in pleasant stories about divine intention, art, and love. A well written story, yet is the same one that crumbles under scrutiny. Let’s dissect your coping mechanism line by line. You quote Jesus, yet you entirely miss the irony of your own argument. You claim he defies cause and effect by saying, "Love those who hate you." Yet that's exactly cause and effect, just another emotional strategy. Loving the unlovable to gain spiritual merit or inner satisfaction. Everything you do, consciously or subconsciously, serves a biological or psychological purpose. Even altruism can be explained by evolutionary benefit, emotional comfort, or social validation. Your Jesus is not above cause and effect, he's the embodiment of it. He demands love and worship, offering salvation which is an effect for belief and submission, both being cause. No different than any other emotional transaction, just spiritual capitalism disguised as virtue. Let me open your eyes.
Part One: God Is Cause And Effect.
You present an argument for God existing outside cause and effect, yet fail to grasp the contradiction this poses. If God had no beginning, he must exist outside reality as we understand it, yet you apply human logic to something you admit defies it. How very convenient. If this entity truly existed beyond cause and effect, it’s completely irrelevant to us, beings bound entirely by cause and effect. Your point then is meaningless. God becomes an abstract fiction used to comfort those who cannot handle their insignificance.
You romanticize art as divine self-expression, yet art itself is profoundly rooted in cause and effect. Every brushstroke, every creation emerges from emotional impulses driven by neurotransmitters, environmental stimuli, evolutionary drives, or social approval. No creation happens in a vacuum. Artists seek validation, emotional release, or psychological catharsis, all cause and effect. Your “art” is just emotional commerce wrapped in prettier packaging. Why do we make art? To express emotions triggered by stimuli. Cause, the emotional impulse. Effect, the creation itself. You haven’t debunked cause and effect. you've illustrated it further.
You claim we're “God’s masterpiece,” as if declaring humans special makes it true. It’s comforting but not logical. You romanticize existence to soothe existential dread. This isn't reality, it’s poetry masking desperation. You ask, “Why would a perfect God create us if he didn't need us?” Simple. He wouldn't. The logical conclusion? He doesn't exist, at least not in your benevolent, personal form. Your entire claim hinges on emotion, not logic. Exactly what you accuse nihilists of doing.
Part Two: Love Is Fickle.
You argue that understanding love chemically doesn't diminish it. You're partially correct. Love isn't diminished by scientific explanation. Yet love also isn’t elevated above nature, it remains biological programming. Animals have pair-bonding, loyalty, even mourning. Humans simply romanticize the mechanics, adding layers of mythology to cope with our self-awareness. You said: "True love is attraction plus imprint" Correct and you've just defined another biological transaction. Attraction, hormones, genes plus imprint and neurological conditioning. You haven’t debunked nihilism, you only merely confirmed it.
You say life is personal because people love your good parts. Congratulations, you've accepted transactional affection. Acknowledging you’re liked for your looks, status, money, or personality isn’t deep, it is rather obvious. Personal isn't the opposite of transactional. Personal just means the transaction involves your specific qualities. It doesn't erase the harsh truth, if the qualities fade, so does affection. There's no unconditional love. No transcendental loyalty. Only conditions. Only temporary approval until the conditions expire. Your movie analogy? A movie is a product, consumed and discarded once it no longer entertains. Thanks for clarifying how disposable love truly is.
Part Three: Think Before You Cope.
Your entire post is a beautifully constructed cope. You are rebirthing your psyche from half truths and romantic delusions. You're not debunking the blackpill. you're reinforcing it but desperately trying to paint it pretty colors. You traded clarity for comfort, logic for poetry, and truth for hope. I understand why but reality is brutal. It will confide to your comfort and it doesn't change truth. it just blinds you to it. Enjoy your illusions. I prefer the cold clarity of reality.
OG OP post https://looksmax.org/threads/blackp...fect-youre-not-as-smart-as-you-think.1492152/
Yet the comfort of lies. Ah, the classic rebuke. The promise of meaning, wrapped in pleasant stories about divine intention, art, and love. A well written story, yet is the same one that crumbles under scrutiny. Let’s dissect your coping mechanism line by line. You quote Jesus, yet you entirely miss the irony of your own argument. You claim he defies cause and effect by saying, "Love those who hate you." Yet that's exactly cause and effect, just another emotional strategy. Loving the unlovable to gain spiritual merit or inner satisfaction. Everything you do, consciously or subconsciously, serves a biological or psychological purpose. Even altruism can be explained by evolutionary benefit, emotional comfort, or social validation. Your Jesus is not above cause and effect, he's the embodiment of it. He demands love and worship, offering salvation which is an effect for belief and submission, both being cause. No different than any other emotional transaction, just spiritual capitalism disguised as virtue. Let me open your eyes.
Part One: God Is Cause And Effect.
You present an argument for God existing outside cause and effect, yet fail to grasp the contradiction this poses. If God had no beginning, he must exist outside reality as we understand it, yet you apply human logic to something you admit defies it. How very convenient. If this entity truly existed beyond cause and effect, it’s completely irrelevant to us, beings bound entirely by cause and effect. Your point then is meaningless. God becomes an abstract fiction used to comfort those who cannot handle their insignificance.
You romanticize art as divine self-expression, yet art itself is profoundly rooted in cause and effect. Every brushstroke, every creation emerges from emotional impulses driven by neurotransmitters, environmental stimuli, evolutionary drives, or social approval. No creation happens in a vacuum. Artists seek validation, emotional release, or psychological catharsis, all cause and effect. Your “art” is just emotional commerce wrapped in prettier packaging. Why do we make art? To express emotions triggered by stimuli. Cause, the emotional impulse. Effect, the creation itself. You haven’t debunked cause and effect. you've illustrated it further.
You claim we're “God’s masterpiece,” as if declaring humans special makes it true. It’s comforting but not logical. You romanticize existence to soothe existential dread. This isn't reality, it’s poetry masking desperation. You ask, “Why would a perfect God create us if he didn't need us?” Simple. He wouldn't. The logical conclusion? He doesn't exist, at least not in your benevolent, personal form. Your entire claim hinges on emotion, not logic. Exactly what you accuse nihilists of doing.
Part Two: Love Is Fickle.
You argue that understanding love chemically doesn't diminish it. You're partially correct. Love isn't diminished by scientific explanation. Yet love also isn’t elevated above nature, it remains biological programming. Animals have pair-bonding, loyalty, even mourning. Humans simply romanticize the mechanics, adding layers of mythology to cope with our self-awareness. You said: "True love is attraction plus imprint" Correct and you've just defined another biological transaction. Attraction, hormones, genes plus imprint and neurological conditioning. You haven’t debunked nihilism, you only merely confirmed it.
You say life is personal because people love your good parts. Congratulations, you've accepted transactional affection. Acknowledging you’re liked for your looks, status, money, or personality isn’t deep, it is rather obvious. Personal isn't the opposite of transactional. Personal just means the transaction involves your specific qualities. It doesn't erase the harsh truth, if the qualities fade, so does affection. There's no unconditional love. No transcendental loyalty. Only conditions. Only temporary approval until the conditions expire. Your movie analogy? A movie is a product, consumed and discarded once it no longer entertains. Thanks for clarifying how disposable love truly is.
Part Three: Think Before You Cope.
Your entire post is a beautifully constructed cope. You are rebirthing your psyche from half truths and romantic delusions. You're not debunking the blackpill. you're reinforcing it but desperately trying to paint it pretty colors. You traded clarity for comfort, logic for poetry, and truth for hope. I understand why but reality is brutal. It will confide to your comfort and it doesn't change truth. it just blinds you to it. Enjoy your illusions. I prefer the cold clarity of reality.