life after death exists stop coping incels

[Dunkelheit]

Consciousness most likely arises from our physical bodies as a catalyst and the interplay of nuerochemicals and the nervous system. And reported NDE experiences are often contradictory saar!

How does physicalism explain qualia and consciousness in general?

 

[cucklek]

you speak common sense its useless in this forum. op hasnt any idea about 'ndes' kek

shut ur dumb ugly incel mourh buddy

 

[cucklek]

Consciousness most likely arises from our physical bodies as a catalyst and the interplay of nuerochemicals and the nervous system. And reported NDE experiences are often contradictory saar!

cope dumb greycel off urself ASAP

 

[wollet2]

shut ur dumb ugly incel mourh buddy

maybe do a google search of things you post about thinking ur smart

 

[Nick.Harte]

I’m already dead

 

[cucklek]

maybe do a google search of things you post about thinking ur smart

i did research this this for years and read books about it but whatwver incel

u just cant cope with a life after death cuz ur life is already miserable

 

[wollet2]

i did research this this for years and read books about it but whatwver incel

u just cant cope with a life after death cuz ur life is already miserable

0 sense you researched my dick

 

[klip11]

Only exists for good looking people

What if someone dies at 79 but was good looking in their youth?

 

[Thebuffdon]

What if someone dies at 79 but was good looking in their youth?

Depends on how good looking

 

[klip11]

Depends on how good looking

Chadlite and up

 

[Thebuffdon]

Chadlite and up

Chadlites dont

Everyone up does

 

[BigJimsWornOutTires]

What if someone dies at 79 but was good looking in their youth?

After you die, you awake in a pod, something like this:

You can't open it, nooooo... there are no control panels inside. You wait until SOMETHING ELSE unlocks the chamber. So you wait.

And wait

Finally, ugh, the pod opens.

 

[BornToBeArnold]

like every 2nd person who is close to death gets a near death experience. mostly they see a white bright light, dead relatives of the family, their own self in 3d vision in the hospital, their best memories in life etc. some even see flames and fearful shit

now cucked scientists claim that all of this comes from hallucinations caused by the serotonergic dimethyltryptamine (DMT) which is complete bullshit. ask any drug addict what they see when they consume dmt. its very different from these hallucinations.

Almost all of the mainstream scientists who are atheist activists and make edgy neckbeards cream their pants, are in fact Freemasons/ Freemasonic activists:

And yes, all Freemasons believe in an afterlife. They're just puppets paid to deceive the masses.

 

[kyphoscoliosis]

cope dumb greycel off urself ASAP

Join date mogs you, rope immediately peon.

“Jesuscels, they cope with Jesus. But blackpilling Jesuscels is: Jesus can’t change your genetics” - Saint Hamudi

 

[tonka T]

It doesn't,we just don't exist after death

Kys for an experiment

 

[kyphoscoliosis]

How does physicalism explain qualia and consciousness in general?

I couldn’t tell you 1 for 1 exactly how it works. However, we have enough evidence to support the theory that consciousness arises from our physical bodies. Take the senses for example: you have the conscious experience of sight which requires the physical apparatus of the eye, the tongue and taste, and the like with the other senses. All demonstrable and a perfectly naturalistic explanation as opposed to making recourse to the supernatural which isn’t demonstrable, and most claims to the supernatural are often contradictory. As such a lot of personal anecdotal NDEs suffer from this issue. For example Muslims experiencing one and claiming they saw Jesus, or a Christian passing on and realizing Islam was the correct religion and so on.

 

[cucklek]

Join date mogs you, rope immediately peon.

“Jesuscels, they cope with Jesus. But blackpilling Jesuscels is: Jesus can’t change your genetics” - Saint Hamudi

im on here since 19. february 2019 dumb fuck this is my 2nd acc

 

[kyphoscoliosis]

im on here since 19. february 2019 dumb fuck this is my 2nd acc

Sure kiddo

 

[optimisticzoomer]

theres several theories that debunk this

This is an oxymoron

 

[optimisticzoomer]

im on here since 19. february 2019 dumb fuck this is my 2nd acc

You're not even buflek

 

[Trisomy 21]

i want to burn in hell for eternity with Rira And ER

 

[Dunkelheit]

.

 

[Dunkelheit]

I couldn’t tell you 1 for 1 exactly how it works. However, we have enough evidence to support the theory that consciousness arises from our physical bodies. Take the senses for example: you have the conscious experience of sight which requires the physical apparatus of the eye, the tongue and taste, and the like with the other senses. All demonstrable and a perfectly naturalistic explanation as opposed to making recourse to the supernatural which isn’t demonstrable, and most claims to the supernatural are often contradictory. As such a lot of personal anecdotal NDEs suffer from this issue. For example Muslims experiencing one and claiming they saw Jesus, or a Christian passing on and realizing Islam was the correct religion and so on.

That only describes the physical processes originating (in the body) and terminating in the brain, which I agree perfectly model out under physicalism but fail to give a mechanism for consciousness. I'd argue that there is zero evidence nor a mechanism which describes the emergence of consciousness from physical processes and think that the argument that it is a naturalistic explanation is reliant on the presupposition of physicalism itself being true, sort of invoking some sort of circular logic.

 

[Dunkelheit]

Sure kiddo

Nah he is legit, use to be @buflek

 

[kyphoscoliosis]

That only describes the physical processes originating (in the body) and terminating in the brain, which I agree perfectly model out under physicalism but fail to give a mechanism for consciousness. I'd argue that there is zero evidence nor a mechanism which describes the emergence of consciousness from physical processes and think that the argument that it is a naturalistic explanation is reliant on the presupposition of physicalism itself being true, sort of invoking some sort of circular logic.

I don’t mean to beg the question ala your last sentence, more so that I subscribe to this position based on the evidence. Even if I or the scientific community can’t 100% explain consciousness (as of yet, assuming we’ll ever be able to) this is still ample evidence to defend a physicalist or biological explanation as to how consciousness is generated. Meanwhile the same can’t be said for supernaturalist positions, all they have that I’ve seen is philosophical propositions and theories and not hard evidence

 

[kyphoscoliosis]

Nah he is legit, use to be @buflek

I see, that’s on me. Still he was a rude sperg after I pointed out some issues with his argument I was promptly told to neck myself and had my intelligence insulted because somehow not knowing this guy has multiple accounts makes me a “dumb fuck” JFL

 

[Squirtoutmabooty]

Yeah no shit

 

[Dunkelheit]

Materialism has the advantage of being readily communicated between validators in the form of language, conscious substance is self evident. Physicalist science cannot detect consciousness nor describe it, it can only make a good guess through correlation patterns that we aware of, like wincing when we feel subjective pain. Unless there is a irrefutable mechanism for how consciousness is produced via physical processes, it is wrong for us to claim that standpoint to be true, cause you could flip the cause and effect, and argue for idealism under such relaxed criteria.

I don’t mean to beg the question ala your last sentence, more so that I subscribe to this position based on the evidence. Even if I or the scientific community can’t 100% explain consciousness (as of yet, assuming we’ll ever be able to) this is still ample evidence to defend a physicalist or biological explanation as to how consciousness is generated. Meanwhile the same can’t be said for supernaturalist positions, all they have that I’ve seen is philosophical propositions and theories and not hard evidence.

 

[Dunkelheit]

Yeah hahaha, you will get that alot on here. I literally had some retard call me low iq over some stupid stupid shit regarding tyler maher earlier.

I see, that’s on me. Still he was a rude sperg after I pointed out some issues with his argument I was promptly told to neck myself and had my intelligence insulted because somehow not knowing this guy has multiple accounts makes me a “dumb fuck” JFL

 

[kyphoscoliosis]

Materialism has the advantage of being readily communicated between validators in the form of language, conscious substance is self evident. Physicalist science cannot detect consciousness nor describe it, it can only make a good guess through correlation patterns that we aware of, like wincing when we feel subjective pain. Unless there is a irrefutable mechanism for how consciousness is produced via physical processes, it is wrong for us to claim that standpoint to be true, cause you could flip the cause and effect, and argue for idealism under such relaxed criteria.

The problem with philosophical idealism is that, it can be demonstrated that consciousness experience are generated via a physical apparatus through neuroscience, brain wave correlates, the senses requiring a physical base, the ingestion of drugs and other like substances affecting the mind. The physical must exist first for consciousness to emerge (the physical in this case being that which is capable of generating consciousness, as opposed to panpsychists who might say everything whatever possesses consciousness) consciousness is a localized phenomena occuring within phsyical bodies and generated by phsyical organs such that without said bases consciousness couldn’t be. Idealism puts the cart before the horse by starting with the mind and moving outwardly similarly to how Descartes attempted to validate certainty by turning towards inward conscious experience. Or how Berkeley postulated that matter didn’t even exist at all, yet required a brain, body, a proper reasoning to understand his dogmas, and hands to put ink to paper when writing his A Treatise Concerning the Principles of Human Knowledge

 

[Dunkelheit]

We could probably have a decent discussion about this, I might dm you tomorrow, I need to sleep. I think all in all we will probably have to agree to disagree.

The problem with philosophical idealism is that, it can be demonstrated that consciousness experience are generated via a physical apparatus through neuroscience, brain wave correlates, the senses requiring a physical base, the ingestion of drugs and other like substances affecting the mind. The physical must exist first for consciousness to emerge (the physical in this case being that which is capable of generating consciousness, as opposed to panpsychists who might say everything whatever possesses consciousness) consciousness is a localized phenomena occuring within phsyical bodies and generated by phsyical organs such that without said bases consciousness couldn’t be. Idealism puts the cart before the horse by starting with the mind and moving outwardly similarly to how Descartes attempted to validate certainty by turning towards inward conscious experience. Or how Berkeley postulated that matter didn’t even exist at all, yet required a brain, body, a proper reasoning to understand his dogmas, and hands to put ink to paper when writing his A Treatise Concerning the Principles of Human Knowledge

 

[Zenis]

Divine justice. People like Ramirez won't just go like that without punishment.

what if their is no such thing

 

[kyphoscoliosis]

We could probably have a decent discussion about this, I might dm you tomorrow, I need to sleep. I think all in all we will probably have to agree to disagree.

You grammar, IQ, and sentence structure mog me. I’m down

 

[Kroker]

what if their is no such thing

We are more than just flesh and blood right?

 

[Zenis]

We are more than just flesh and blood right?

well the existence of the soul hasent been proven

 

[Dunkelheit]

You grammar, IQ, and sentence structure mog me. I’m down

Nah bro I think you mog me jfl, I've been out of school for 7 years now I'm a bit rusty.

 

[kyphoscoliosis]

Nah bro I think you mog me jfl, I've been out of school for 7 years now I'm a bit rusty.

I think the way you articulate shit is mogger, i’m just pulling things out if my ass as I rot on .org on a Sunday