life is meaningless

Bad reasoning... OK, you gotta understand factors, basically what made someone do something, now, if we see a good thing someone did and we now see what made them do that good, and we put a person with those same factors in the same situation, that new person would do the good thing as well, why? Well, equal factors, some of them are thought process, intelligence, knowledge, past experiences, current circumstances, emotions, desires, etc. If there are 2 equal factors placed upon 2 people, they would only be able to reach one conclusion, but what is the point I'm trying to prove? Determinism, if there's only one conclusion we can reach in a certain situation with specific factors, then we couldn't have avoided that conclusion, the conclusion is inevitable and unavoidable.
Any proof for this?

How do you know they would do the same thing if they were given same cirumstances?

They could choose differently even though they have exactly the same circumstances.
 
Any proof for this?

How do you know they would do the same thing if they were given same cirumstances?

They could choose differently even though they have exactly the same circumstances.
Circumstances are just one factor, if every factor (anything that influences your decision making) was equal for 2 people, they would both do the same thing, because they would have the same thoughts and emotions and conclusions to their thought process, so for example they'll both conclude that they should kill the child cuz no ones there and they wanna do it and the child isn't aware etc... so equal factors = equal results.
 
Circumstances are just one factor, if every factor (anything that influences your decision making) was equal for 2 people, they would both do the same thing, because they would have the same thoughts and emotions and conclusions to their thought process, so for example they'll both conclude that they should kill the child cuz no ones there and they wanna do it and the child isn't aware etc... so equal factors = equal results.
If Allah wills it, they could make different choices even if they were given the same circumstances.
 
If Allah wills it, they could make different choices even if they were given the same circumstances.
No, that is impossible, Allah can only do it if he changes the factors, so one person now has a different thought or emotion etc that leads to them to have a different conclusion, this doesn't disprove the equal factors equal results argument.
 
life has no point and its meaningless religion is cope a concept that was made up by humans millions of years ago in order to control and deceive other people put fear into them so they dont do bad things because they will "go to hell" and that they need to be a good human being so they can go to heaven and be filled with joy if god was so loving hell wouldnt exist because a loving person that loves everyone wouldnt put others in hell to burn in agony for eternity because they didnt believe in a fairy tale that had 0 genuine proof we are born just to die no one is gonna remember us when we die its gonna be just like it was before we were born its gonna be pitch black and we wont be aware of that because we are dead there are no souls we wont reincarnate or whatever its just over after death the agony of living is over in 3-4 generations no one is gonna remember us we will cease to exist it wont matter if we were rich or poor beautiful or ugly fat or skinny it doesnt matter we all have the same ending and we cant do anything about it but just wait for death to come so the torture of being alive can be over
Send bday for mental health
 

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