Lifefuel for oldcels.

[reptiles]

Look at this shit man holy fuck

 

[Deleted member 16380]

Look at this shit man holy fuck

I have been saying this for a while:

"There are no ugly people, there are POOR people... who cannot afford a facelift and its revisions"

 

[Deleted member 16058]

facelifts are magic tbh

if you have the money do them at 30 then at 40 then at 50

 

[reptiles]

facelifts are magic tbh

if you have the money do them at 30 then at 40 then at 50

Its insane yeah mogs bimax results tbqh because they lift the fat around the neck

 

[Deleted member 17244]

I have been saying this for a while:

"There are no ugly people, there are POOR people... who cannot afford a facelift and its revisions"

but facelifts are cheap in compare to implants in western Europe or osteotomies

 

[Deleted member 17244]

Look at this shit man holy fuck

it's like -30 years younger

 

[Deleted member 19551]

People will call this cope but women 100% age faster than men. Most people call this cope because women have higher baseline SMV, men bald, and less likely to care about grooming/sun protection. The estrogen dive that women experience in mid 30s is unlike anything men face. Men have a gradual decrease in T that leads to less E, estrogen is important as fuck in collagen and elastin production

most people compare old couples muh "they both look old!", yes the end result is the same but women look horrible at 45 without facelifts and makeup meanwhile there are chads that are completely fuckable to women at 45


The most collagenous baby ass faced recessed troglodyte will be virgin at 18 and chad can be slaying at 35


if you're chad your prime is probably 25-30, it's when facial development is near full, excess external storage fat pads get slightly smaller, but deep collagenous adipocytes are still intact


After 35, get a facelift and fat grafts, rinse and repeat every decade and u will mog



Btw my mother approached menopause at 50 (late as fuck) and she has better collagen than 99% of women with 0 surgery or sunscreen

Ask most old women and they'll tell you their faces took a huge nose dive between 35-40 in particular


The agepill is one of the many examples of how people here are programming themselves to think like women. No woman on earth thinks a Chad's prime is muh 18 yo, every woman will say it's 25-35

 

[Deleted member 16380]

facelifts are magic tbh

if you have the money do them at 30 then at 40 then at 50

At 30, you do not need them usually. In 30s, if one keeps good weight and is not too sun-damaged, or genetically prone to ageing, filler or implant revolumization works better than facelifting.

 

[Deleted member 17244]

People will call this cope but women 100% age faster than men. Most people call this cope because women have higher baseline SMV, men bald, and less likely to care about grooming/sun protection. The estrogen dive that women experience in mid 30s is unlike anything men face. Men have a gradual decrease in T that leads to less E, estrogen is important as fuck in collagen and elastin production

most people compare old couples muh "they both look old!", yes the end result is the same but women look horrible at 45 without facelifts and makeup meanwhile there are chads that are completely fuckable to women at 45


The most collagenous baby ass faced recessed troglodyte will be virgin at 18 and chad can be slaying at 35


if you're chad your prime is probably 25-30, it's when facial development is near full, excess external storage fat pads get slightly smaller, but deep collagenous adipocytes are still intact


After 35, get a facelift and fat grafts, rinse and repeat every decade and u will mog

yeah, big truth

 

[reptiles]

At 30, you do not need them usually. In 30s, if one keeps good weight and is not too sun-damaged, or genetically prone to ageing, filler or implant revolumization works better than facelifting.

I havent seen filler results as good as this tbqh

 

[Deleted member 16058]

At 30, you do not need them usually. In 30s, if one keeps good weight and is not too sun-damaged, or genetically prone to ageing, filler or implant revolumization works better than facelifting.

why would you do fillers when you can do facelifts?


it could be a minor one yet still better

 

[Deleted member 16380]

but facelifts are cheap in compare to implants in western Europe or osteotomies

You don't say...

This foid had at least her neck and midface lifted... and most probably her forehead too, because why not make the whole face young?

Looking here in finland:

Her treatment cost 16,000 Euros... unless she did it in the backalley

PLUS you HAVE to do also FAT GRAFTS to achieve her results, because the bone is lost needs to bre replaced. This is totally custom, add another 10k..

16k for the full facelift... how much does Bimax cost in e.g. UK? I don't know about finland, cause here it is IMPOSSIBLE to get as a "cosmetic" surgery, only performed in the government hospital But I would guess still around the same price

 

[Deleted member 16380]

I havent seen filler results as good as this tbqh

Yeah, she is NOT 30 man... she is way beyond the Wall ... I would guess 45-50... at minimum, early 40s...

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

I have been saying this for a while:

"There are no ugly people, there are POOR people... who cannot afford a facelift and its revisions"

yeah i started to believe that everything is possible if you have enough willpower and money

 

[reptiles]

You don't say...

This foid had at least her neck and midface lifted... and most probably her forehead too, because why not make the whole face young?

Looking here in finland:
View attachment 1727511
Her treatment cost 16,000 Euros... unless she did it in the backalley

16k for the full facelift... how much does Bimax cost in e.g. UK? I don't know about finland, cause here it is IMPOSSIBLE to get as a "cosmetic" surgery, only performed in the government hospital But I would guess still around the same price

This isnt a standard face lift its a deep plane 1 and its done by a doctor in germanu i belive your looking at least 40 k

 

[Deleted member 17244]

You don't say...

This foid had at least her neck and midface lifted... and most probably her forehead too, because why not make the whole face young?

Looking here in finland:
View attachment 1727511
Her treatment cost 16,000 Euros... unless she did it in the backalley

16k for the full facelift... how much does Bimax cost in e.g. UK? I don't know about finland, cause here it is IMPOSSIBLE to get as a "cosmetic" surgery, only performed in the government hospital But I would guess still around the same price

in Poland 20k PLN for full facelift lol

 

[Deleted member 16380]

why would you do fillers when you can do facelifts?


it could be a minor one yet still better

No, it is because fillers are BETTER. They give better results for real.

Ofc, doing a facelift can improve even a 30year old. But this is literally such a small PSL improvement, that you are srsly burning money

Also, don't forget months of healing. This shit is brutal as fuck. I had a colleague doing a facelift in 50s. Her sick leave expired after 1 month, and she came to work before fully healing. She looked fucking horrible for the next month at least

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

I don't know about finland, cause here it is IMPOSSIBLE to get as a "cosmetic" surgery, only performed in the government hospital

what a communist hellhole

 

[roguedisc]

Those results are insane.

 

[reptiles]

Those results are insane.

Damn that mogs this result super hard the women in this pic went from a creature to a mid 40s becky the guy who did this should be called the goblin slayer

 

[Deleted member 16058]

No, it is because fillers are BETTER. They give better results for real.

Ofc, doing a facelift can improve even a 30year old. But this is literally such a small PSL improvement, that you are srsly burning money

Also, don't forget months of healing. This shit is brutal as fuck. I had a colleague doing a facelift in 50s. Her sick leave expired after 1 month, and she came to work before fully healing. She looked fucking horrible for the next month at least

hehe i got those tatar genes from my mom's side so no worries about aging

 

[reptiles]

hehe i got those tatar genes from my mom's side so no worries about aging

I thibk they do more than aging its like they raise the midface abd neck

 

[Deleted member 16380]

This isnt a standard face lift its a deep plane 1 and its done by a doctor in germanu i belive your looking at least 40 k

Deep plane lift is frankly speaking a shitty procedure. Nowadays, all best surgeons do SMAS lifting. It is WAY safer, and gives the same results.

Deep plane lifts differs from SMAS techniques in that they move muscle/fat and skin TOGETHER. WHile in SMAS-lift, muscle is moved separately from the skin. The latter has a WAY better safety profile.

IDK why she did exactly deep-plane face lift, because the results would have been the same anyways. But maybe there is some "catch", im not a surgeon...

Also, quite possible it was just a SMAS-lift, rebranded as "deep plane"... after all, it is all about advertising... "deep plane" sounds MORE CHAD

 

[Deleted member 16058]

I thibk they do more than aging its like they raise the midface abd neck

yeah it all comes in complex

even if she's not rich but from middle class.

she could have started saving up for a facelift starting at 18 without a problem.

 

[Deleted member 16380]

what a communist hellhole

All Scandinavia is...

.. but we have a good NEETBUX

THough, it is not enough for hookers...

 

[Deleted member 16058]

All Scandinavia is...

.. but we have a good NEETBUX

THough, it is not enough for hookers...

are you ethnic in Finland?

 

[reptiles]

are you ethnic in Finland?

Tera brutal diffiulity its the nordic block of europe very hard to mog any 1

 

[Deleted member 16380]

are you ethnic in Finland?

I am a russian born finnish citizen

So, i'm white... not sure i can be called "ethnic"

 

[Deleted member 16058]

Tera brutal diffiulity its the nordic block of europe very hard to mog any 1

i'm ukrainian ( turanid pheno tho so on the darker side )

but i actually had more success in matching with polish, baltic or finnish girls when i had premium ( refunded so jews got nothing )

 

[Deleted member 17244]

I am a russian born finnish citizen

So, i'm white... not sure i can be called "ethnic"

if you are slav you are ethnic. Over for slavs

 

[Deleted member 17244]

polish

fuck u

 

[Deleted member 16380]

Tera brutal diffiulity its the nordic block of europe very hard to mog any 1

Idk, im ok... i mog pretty much everyone due to coloring, good jaw, and. very lean physique.

It is true that Nordics is HTN central due to height and prominent cheekbones (= tapered chad faces), but TBH a LOT of people with recessed jaws here, and Nerdic pheno is cringe TBH, because they have no eyebrows

The biggest issue is height.. Im 5'10, ~30% pussy is unavailable simply because they are of the same height, or taller...

But i m just complaining, otherwise, possible to survive. Just be HTN yourself

 

[Deleted member 16058]

fuck u

it's the tatar genes i swear

jfl my mothers side is tatar rapebabies bro

grandmother looks very tatar

 

[Deleted member 17244]

it's the tatar genes i swear

jfl my mothers side is tatar rapebabies bro

grandmother looks very tatar

my parents look very decent, mog me to death. And I have Russian roots in family like Lagrange.

 

[reptiles]

Idk, im ok... i mog pretty much everyone due to coloring, good jaw, and. very lean physique.

It is true that Nordics is HTN central due to height and prominent cheekbones (= tapered chad faces), but TBH a LOT of people with recessed jaws here, and Nerdic pheno is cringe TBH, because they have no eyebrows

The biggest issue is height.. Im 5'10, ~30% pussy is unavailable simply because they are of the same height, or taller...

But i m just complaining, otherwise, possible to survive. Just be HTN yourself

A lot of nordicw you've seen have recessed jaws? Seems cope tbqh most the ones ive seen in the uk were large boned moggers.

 

[Deleted member 16380]

i'm ukrainian ( turanid pheno tho so on the darker side )

Oh you are like me then ... nice to meet my pheno-brothers here

but i actually had more success in matching with polish, baltic or finnish girls when i had premium ( refunded so jews got nothing )

Native finnish girls are easy TBH... but with Swedish-mixed foids it is harder, cause they are usually leaner, and more HTN+ faces

WIth slavic girls it is on easy mode if you are slavic yourself: money, and you are golden

 

[Deleted member 17244]

A lot of nordicw you've seen have recessed jaws? Seems cope tbqh most the ones ive seen in the uk were large boned moggers.

in Poland every 3-4 normies out of 10 need get bimax tbh. But polish pheno is very based and I'm getting mogged brutally day by day

 

[Deleted member 16380]

A lot of nordicw you've seen have recessed jaws? Seems cope tbqh most the ones ive seen in the uk were large boned moggers.

Yeah, I think a lot of people in finland have them. THis is why beards are so popular. ANd i lived in sweden too, the same shit.

When i say "recessed", i do not mean "medically recessed"... i mean their jawlines are "ok" but LTN/MTN. Nothing good.

Maybe you just see the handsomest, and then your brain pays more attention to them. Your brain just filters our all the subhumans

 

[Deleted member 17244]

Native finnish girls are easy TBH.

easy girls dont exist. Maybe in Pakistan. Every girl in Western society require at least 6' low inhibit HTN as a bf or for ONS. And as the Western society I also mean Russia and UA because they have easy access to western technologies and western life

 

[reptiles]

in Poland every 3-4 normies out of 10 need get bimax tbh. But polish pheno is very based and I'm getting mogged brutally day by day

Im gonna be honewt the polish people at my work place weren't moggers ive never seen any polish dudes outside of work tbqh.

 

[reptiles]

Yeah, I think a lot of people in finland have them. THis is why beards are so popular. ANd i lived in sweden too, the same shit.

When i say "recessed", i do not mean "medically recessed"... i mean their jawlines are "ok" but LTN/MTN. Nothing good.

Maybe you just see the handsomest, and then your brain pays more attention to them. Your brain just filters our all the subhumans

How many look like this guy.

 

[Deleted member 17244]

Im gonna be honewt the polish people at my work place weren't moggers ive never seen any polish dudes outside of work tbqh.

it's like ukrainian refugees in PL. All these slavs who wageslave in shitty work like warehouse, courier, gastro etc. look bad because they are retard low iq idiots

 

[Deleted member 16058]

Oh you are like me then ... nice to meet my pheno-brothers here

Native finnish girls are easy TBH... but with Swedish-mixed foids it is harder, cause they are usually leaner, and more HTN+ faces

WIth slavic girls it is on easy mode if you are slavic yourself: money, and you are golden

tbh modern Ukrainian is essentially slav + tatar

are you too on the darker side?

idk about swedish or danish ones

they never really appealed to me either way

hungarians suki are tho

my great-grandfather was "liberating" Budapest we all know what that means

 

[Deleted member 16380]

easy girls dont exist. Maybe in Pakistan. Every girl in Western society require at least 6' low inhibit HTN as a bf or for ONS. And as the Western society I also mean Russia and UA because they have easy access to western technologies and western life

Idk man.... my experience with slavic girls (i dated russian, and polish a little), they are WAY more materialistic. I frankly speaking do not even feel they care shit at all about your looks... your wallet is the king...

 

[reptiles]

it's like ukrainian refugees in PL. All these slavs who wageslave in shitty work like warehouse, courier, gastro etc. look bad because they are retard low iq idiots

That explains it they have this wierd pheno tbqh itw not the best ngl its. A wierd combination of balding and a recessed maxilla similar to what some chechnens have.

Sort of like this tbqh although this might just be subhumanity rather than phenotype

 

[Max Frauder]

To state the obvious, if you're a man who does the usual - never gives up training, good diet, keeps the bf% low, neck & facial exercises/stretches - you shouldn't get jowls or turkey neck until after 60.

 

[Deleted member 16058]

That explains it they have this wierd pheno tbqh itw not the best ngl its. A wierd combination of balding and a recessed maxilla similar to what some chechnens have.

View attachment 1727564


Sort of like this tbqh although this might just be subhumanity rather than phenotype

Ukrainians are swarthy mfers especially in the south and near Romania

 

[Deleted member 16380]

tbh modern Ukrainian is essentially slav + tatar

are you too on the darker side?

I am total brunette. I only have slavic potato-nose, high hairline, and propensity to store fat in lower cheek. Otherwise, ALL GIRLS i asked during my younger years at the university - NEVER guessed i was russian, or even slavic... the most common answer was "Spanish" LMAO

idk about swedish or danish ones

they never really appealed to me either way

hungarians suki are tho

my great-grandfather was "liberating" Budapest we all know what that means

 

[Deleted member 16058]

Idk man.... my experience with slavic girls (i dated russian, and polish a little), they are WAY more materialistic. I frankly speaking do not even feel they care shit at all about your looks... your wallet is the king...

can vouch

it's natural tbh if they are poor to get out of poverty and secure a future for their offspring

i don't see anything wrong with that only bitter incels on forums complain

 

[Deleted member 16058]

I am total brunette. I only have slavic potato-nose, high hairline, and propensity to store fat in lower cheek. Otherwise, ALL GIRLS i asked during my younger years at the university - NEVER guessed i was russian, or even slavic... the most common answer was "Spanish" LMAO

i have very similar bone structure to the guy in the top, even gonial angle jfl + pheno

it's from the anthropological types of Ukrainians