Longevity is cope.

[FutureExoticChad]

I still don't understand why so many guys here bark about longevity, like why would you wanna live from 60 to 90 anyways?

At that point your just rotting in some nursing home with a dick that doesn't work combined with death tier collagen and health indicators

Who would want to live that life any longer? I truly believe that living anything past 65-70 is just holding onto false hope.

At that point your just wasting resources for nothing. Absolutely nothing.

 

[punchmademaxxer]

In my country no one is in a nursing home, all the old people (70-80+) are out in parks and in public transport

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

Family nigga, although I agree with you, just rope at 50

 

[iblamemyself!]

U acting like at 65 you will magically kill yourself

 

[A_Ron_Kool_Aid]

I agree but the point of it is, is that you aren't going to be like that at that age. Ik a big part of it is genetics, but If you live a healthy life, you aren't going to be detereorate as much

 

[JohnDoe]

In my country no one is in a nursing home, all the old people (70-80+) are out in parks and in public transport

In healthy countries where people still mostly eat real food, 60-70 year olds aren't obese riding scooters like they are in America, they're slim and very active. Quality of life doesn't have to be very low at that age if you eat proper and exercise. This is how it should be but jews have poisoned Americans and lot of countries.

 

[Zeekie]

I still don't understand why so many guys here bark about longevity, like why would you wanna live from 60 to 90 anyways?

At that point your just rotting in some nursing home with a dick that doesn't work combined with death tier collagen and health indicators

Who would want to live that life any longer? I truly believe that living anything past 65-70 is just holding onto false hope.

At that point your just wasting resources for nothing. Absolutely nothing.

That's the whole point, longevity isn't about just living long, it's living long and maintaining a decent quality of life. I don't see your perspective, honestly, why the fuck would you wanna experience death? You're telling me you lived this long and struggled this much just for it to end without having seen half of what life has to offer? Absolutely not in my book.

The point of longevity research and biohacking is to live long, but live good on top of it, or at least decently. You may not be at your prime, but at least you're not suffering from dementia and slowly losing your function to the point of utter degradation.

 

[punchmademaxxer]

In healthy countries where people still mostly eat real food, 60-70 year olds aren't obese riding scooters like they are in America, they're slim and very active. Quality of life doesn't have to be very low at that age if you eat proper and exercise. This is how it should be but jews have poisoned Americans and lot of countries.

Sad to see my country getting goyinized now, I was just in the mall today and there wasn't ONE SINGLE STORE selling non-goyslop food (only 1 kebab place selling half-goyslop)

 

[Bryce]

No it isn't. My grandma turns 80 in a few years, she just came over today and she's fit, talkative, active, and never goes to the doctor. She's literally more active and happier than me

 

[FutureExoticChad]

That's the whole point, longevity isn't about just living long, it's living long and maintaining a decent quality of life. I don't see your perspective, honestly, why the fuck would you wanna experience death? You're telling me you lived this long and struggled this much just for it to end without having seen half of what life has to offer? Absolutely not in my book.

The point of longevity research and biohacking is to live long, but live good on top of it, or at least decently. You may not be at your prime, but at least you're not suffering from dementia and slowly losing your function to the point of utter degradation.

I can understand trying to maintain a high quality of life for longer, that I have nothing against.

But there's a difference between wanting to maintain a high quality of life for longer, and actually LIVING longer.

What's so special about living from 60 to 80 years old? Why would you want to experience 2 more decades of rotting? What does live have to offer that you already haven't experienced before? Morning walks and taking supplements?

Trying to say I would like to experience death cus I said I see no point in living longer than 70 is pathetic, of course am afraid of death but its inevitable, so what's the point in trying to delay it when your in your 70s via MORE soleless rotting & day dreaming about your youth.

That's something I just cant seem to understand.

 

[Akuzy]

Trying to say I would like to experience death cus I said I see no point in living longer than 70 is pathetic, of course am afraid of death but its inevitable, so what's the point in trying to delay it when your in your 70s via MORE soleless rotting & day dreaming about your youth.

If death’s inevitable, fine. But writing off everything past 70 just because you cant picture value in it isnt realism it is helplessness.
Just because you cant see a point yet doesnt mean there isnt one.

 

[Zeekie]

I can understand trying to maintain a high quality of life for longer, that I have nothing against.

But there's a difference between wanting to maintain a high quality of life for longer, and actually LIVING longer.

What's so special about living from 60 to 80 years old? Why would you want to experience 2 more decades of rotting? What does live have to offer that you already haven't experienced before? Morning walks and taking supplements?

Trying to say I would like to experience death cus I said I see no point in living longer than 70 is pathetic, of course am afraid of death but its inevitable, so what's the point in trying to delay it when your in your 70s via MORE soleless rotting & day dreaming about your youth.

That's something I just cant seem to understand.

I mean not necessarily, yes, a lot of 70-80yos are rotting and live horrible lives, but that's because they thought like you when they were younger (no offense). There's a small but sure minority of old people living amazing lives.

Maybe you think this way NOW that you're young, but I guarantee your perspective will change once you start approaching that age. Life just has too much to offer, it gets boring simply because we get stagnant and stop wanting to experience more. There's just so much to learn, to see, to teach, to experience, and living longer will enable you to keep that going for as long as possible.

I guess this is a matter of perspective, I think being old and still active is pretty cool ngl. Being old is only pathetic once you're actually rotting, but that's not necessarily going to happen, you will surely get there if you keep this anti-longevity mindset ironically, plus really isn't longevity stuff just health stuff? Worrying about your longevity now will have as many benefits in the present as it will eventually..

Think about it, what's longevity? Beyond super strange therapies that people like Bryan Johnson so, it's just lifting weights, mobility, training HIIT and VO2 max, having a good diet and supplementing a few stuff. Then again, other advanced things, red light therapy, oxygen chambers, peptides, whatever, but those are nice-to-haves rather than musts for a long and quality life

 

[JohnDoe]

Sad to see my country getting goyinized now, I was just in the mall today and there wasn't ONE SINGLE STORE selling non-goyslop food (only 1 kebab place selling half-goyslop)

Yeah it's just a shame to see even 45- 50 year old men and women extremely fat and just looking like death. Just look at videos of even 30 - 40 years ago, everyone was slim because we hadn't all been poisoned by jews. We need bans or severe restrictions on goyslop but it won't happen because it's simply too profitable. The goyslop is designed to make you addicted and goys need their daily slop fix or they can't function.

 

[Swarthy Knight]

Would be cool if I can make it to the year of 2100. That means I would've been alive for 3 different centuries

 

[punchmademaxxer]

Yeah it's just a shame to see even 45- 50 year old men and women extremely fat and just looking like death. Just look at videos of even 30 - 40 years ago, everyone was slim because we hadn't all been poisoned by jews. We need bans or severe restrictions on goyslop but it won't happen because it's simply too profitable. The goyslop is designed to make you addicted and goys need their daily slop fix or they can't function.

And the worst part is that the new leftist woke government is making real food more expensive than goyslop so that the poor and lower middle class people can only afford that

 

[autistic_tendencies]

You don’t know what the future holds we’re about to enter longevity escape velocity

 

[FutureExoticChad]

I mean not necessarily, yes, a lot of 70-80yos are rotting and live horrible lives, but that's because they thought like you when they were younger (no offense). There's a small but sure minority of old people living amazing lives.

Maybe you think this way NOW that you're young, but I guarantee your perspective will change once you start approaching that age. Life just has too much to offer, it gets boring simply because we get stagnant and stop wanting to experience more. There's just so much to learn, to see, to teach, to experience, and living longer will enable you to keep that going for as long as possible.

I guess this is a matter of perspective, I think being old and still active is pretty cool ngl. Being old is only pathetic once you're actually rotting, but that's not necessarily going to happen, you will surely get there if you keep this anti-longevity mindset ironically, plus really isn't longevity stuff just health stuff? Worrying about your longevity now will have as many benefits in the present as it will eventually..

Think about it, what's longevity? Beyond super strange therapies that people like Bryan Johnson so, it's just lifting weights, mobility, training HIIT and VO2 max, having a good diet and supplementing a few stuff. Then again, other advanced things, red light therapy, oxygen chambers, peptides, whatever, but those are nice-to-haves rather than musts for a long and quality life

I guess its just subjective then.

But personally I don't see much value in doing anything of real value when am 70, like what's the point? Sure you can enjoy life but why? you would just be coping to delay the inevitable.

The superior why to live life when your older is to have real accomplishments when your 18-50 and then be able to look back and be proud, not coping with your failures via extending your life through morning walks and supplement stacks. That I see as cucked.

Not to say that you cant live a long life without accomplishments of course, just saying.

 

[Zeekie]

I guess its just subjective then.

But personally I don't see much value in doing anything of real value when am 70, like what's the point? Sure you can enjoy life but why? you would just be coping to delay the inevitable.

The superior why to live life when your older is to have real accomplishments when your 18-50 and then be able to look back and be proud, not coping with your failures via extending your life through morning walks and supplement stacks. That I see as cucked.

Not to say that you cant live a long life without accomplishments of course, just saying.

Yeah, I won't deny that it's in fact delaying the inevitable and essentially holding on to something that's fleeting, but is there any harm in that? Wouldn't you say you want the good moments in your life to last forever?

Or maybe you don't, as you said deeply subjective, but something tells me that you would be thinking completely different once you hit your mid-life crisis and realize "Oh fuck, I'm going to die" or at least that seems to be the common experience nowadays.

I can't say I fear death too much now or take my longevity very seriously, I mean I do, at least compared to the average person, but I'm trying my best to stay ahead of the curve until the inevitable fear comes knocking at my door, at least I'd be ahead once I truly start to care

 

[FutureExoticChad]

Or maybe you don't, as you said deeply subjective, but something tells me that you would be thinking completely different once you hit your mid-life crisis and realize "Oh fuck, I'm going to die" or at least that seems to be the common experience nowadays.

Yeh but if I were to end up in a mid life crisis, chances are my life turned out to be a steaming pile of shit. Which in turn would leave me coping about extending it.

If I were to live a fulfilling life with minimal stress, financial stability, fell victim to NO economic crises, constantly traveled and explored the world, I would feel no need to elongate my final years of rotting as I had already lived life to the fullest previously.

 

[gemerald]

The point of longevity research and biohacking is to live long, but live good on top of it, or at least decently

Total cope. We've already heard enough from the schizo crypto billionaires and other retards like that Bryan Johnson wigger. They're outright trying to replace God. They don't merely want to improve the quality of life of people as they age, their goal is to eradicate mortality from existence because they genuinely want to find a way to live forever.

 

[Zeekie]

Total cope. We've already heard enough from the schizo crypto billionaires and other retards like that Bryan Johnson wigger. They're outright trying to replace God. They don't merely want to improve the quality of life of people as they age, their goal is to eradicate mortality from existence because they genuinely want to find a way to live forever.

Yes, same thing, to live long and to live a quality life on top of it is essentially immortality with less steps.

But even then, what's wrong with that? Isn't all scientific advancement "playing" God? I don't see what's wrong with either just wanting to live long and well, or wanting to be immortal, two sides of the same coin, and neither is wrong.

 

[laworg]

I still don't understand why so many guys here bark about longevity, like why would you wanna live from 60 to 90 anyways?

At that point your just rotting in some nursing home with a dick that doesn't work combined with death tier collagen and health indicators

Who would want to live that life any longer? I truly believe that living anything past 65-70 is just holding onto false hope.

At that point your just wasting resources for nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Wanted to flex how long it takes for me to nut wrong thread

 

[gemerald]

Isn't all scientific advancement "playing" God?

Absolutely not. Pushing the boundaries of what we physically couldn't do with our bare bodies, such as running at 200 mph, flying, or diving down to the seafloor, is fundamentally different than trying to subvert the very order of nature, something that is kind of implied when you're trying to artificially lengthen the lifespan of a mortal creature, human or not, to infinity.

 

[JohnDoe]

And the worst part is that the new leftist woke government is making real food more expensive than goyslop so that the poor and lower middle class people can only afford that

where i live fast food has gotten so expensive that i don't think it's even cheaper to eat goyslop anymore

 

[Zeekie]

Absolutely not. Pushing the boundaries of what we physically couldn't do with our bare bodies, such as running at 200 mph, flying, or diving down to the seafloor, is fundamentally different than trying to subvert the very order of nature, something that is kind of implied when you're trying to artificially lengthen the lifespan of a mortal creature, human or not, to infinity.

I think this is more of a moral/philosophical issue, so perspectives will certainly matter. I see nothing wrong with it, what's wrong with "subverting" the order of nature? Isn't that what humanity has always been doing? Is chemical modification natural? Are cities natural? Are nuclear power plants natural?

This is just another step of scientific evolution, nothing different about it, aside from death being very taboo and obviously causing strong reactions in people. Issues will certainly arise once people start to become immortal, but we have to accept that this is just another step in our evolution as a civilization

 

[gemerald]

Is chemical modification natural? Are cities natural? Are nuclear power plants natural?

This isn't about whether something is natural or not, but what the intention is. Notice how all the things you've mentioned involve taking natural resources previously available, combining them with knowledge of natural phenomena and obtaining something that allows us to essentially live more efficiently and comfortably. We're talking about evading mortality here, the one thing that we are all supposed to have in common and which no technology has even come close to being able to bypass.

This is just another step of scientific evolution

Whom is this "anti aging" research benefitting though, if you're not naive? I can't see it leading to anything other than some perpetual billionaire oligarchy. Do you seriously think we common people would have the privilege to cheat death? Even if such an ability was developed, it would strictly remain a power tool in the hands of the elites.

 

[Zeekie]

This isn't about whether something is natural or not, but what the intention is. Notice how all the things you've mentioned involve taking natural resources previously available, combining them with knowledge of natural phenomena and obtaining something that allows us to essentially live more efficiently and comfortably. We're talking about evading mortality here, the one thing that we are all supposed to have in common and which no technology has even come close to being able to bypass.

Whom is this "anti aging" research benefitting though, if you're not naive? I can't see it leading to anything other than some perpetual billionaire oligarchy. Do you seriously think we common people would have the privilege to cheat death? Even if such an ability was developed, it would strictly remain a power tool in the hands of the elites.

Of course, I'm not stupid enough to realize that immortality would surely bring upon a bigger gap between normal people and the "elites", I have grandiose delusions so I'd like to believe it would benefit me some day (not going to happen), but even beyond that, I don't see any harm in this kind of progress, even if immortality itself doesn't benefit normal people, it would bring upon newer inventions that would benefit us, even if it's not full-blown immortality, it's medical advancement.

And where's the harm in progress for the sake of it? I mean, even beyond functionality and power dynamics, isn't there a morbid human curiosity in escaping the shackles that torment us all? Death is such a massive asshole, I can't say I wouldn't be glad if we learnt to defeat it, even if I'm not the one getting the benefits

 

[gemerald]

I have grandiose delusions so I'd like to believe it would benefit me some day (not going to happen)

Caught me off guard

I don't see any harm in this kind of progress

If people were suddenly able to reach the age of 150 without sweating suicide rates would be through the roof my dude. People simply be forced to work for additional decades and would have so much time between retirement and their final day they would quite literally get bored to death.

Death is such a massive asshole, I can't say I wouldn't be glad if we learnt to defeat it

Even before I didn't take my Faith as seriously as I have done for the past few years now, I always saw death as something that is ultimately necessary in our world because it means:
1) we don't have endless responsibility, hence endless concern about the consequences of our actions, because we just have to leave at some point;
2) we don't have to face suffering forever.