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Now i do think there are people who are objectively attractive still but for the most part looks are more or less subjective example we can all agree that david gandy, jordan barrett and francisco lachowski are objectively attractive
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BUT if attractiveness wasn’t also subjective the whole point of “hear me outs” wouldn’t exist but some people disagree with those statements examples are james sapphire and thein:
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I have seen lots of people say james was a very attractive man but also lots of people call him uncanny now looks cannot be objective if the attraction to james sapphire is split same with thein people call him attractive but also uncanny or “ruined himself”
so in my opinion looks isn’t necessarily objective just because there is significant agreement about certain people being attractive there can be objective physical characteristics such as facial symmetry or particular proportions while the value people place on those characteristics and whether they find the overall person attractive remains subjective to people
You can measure things like symmetry height or specific features in a pretty objective way What you cant measure is how a person actually reacts to those traits Someone can check every box that studies say should make them attractive and another person still just doesnt feel it The traits themselves might be measurable but the judgment of whos attractive is where it gets personal theres also a difference between a consensus and something thats objectively true If ninety percent of people agree someones attractive that doesnt magically make it a fact It just means a lot of people share the same taste If attractiveness were truly objective disagreements would feel more like arguing over height or bone structure Instead people can look at the same face and come away with completely different reactions That alone tells you there isnt one universal standard culture and personal experience play a role too What someone finds attractive is shaped by what they grew up seeing their history their preferences Even inside the same culture tastes can be totally different One person is drawn to angular faces while another prefers softer or more unusual features Neither is wrong because attraction isnt a math problem with one answer thats why it gets especially messy with unusual looks Someone like James Sapphire can get positive reactions from a bunch of people while others find him uncanny Same with Thein Some think hes highly attractive others see his features as damaged or just offputting If attractiveness were purely objective those split reactions would be a lot harder to explain Instead they show that the same physical characteristics can land completely differently depending on whos looking i dont think the strongest position is that everything about attractiveness is subjective There are clearly patterns that create agreement which is why some people get called conventionally attractive across large groups It feels more accurate to say attractiveness lies on a spectrum Certain physical traits tend to produce certain reactions but the final judgment is still filtered through personal perception You can point to reasons why someone is widely seen as attractive without pretending the attractiveness itself is some objective fact
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Now i do think there are people who are objectively attractive still but for the most part looks are more or less subjective example we can all agree that david gandy, jordan barrett and francisco lachowski are objectively attractive
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BUT if attractiveness wasn’t also subjective the whole point of “hear me outs” wouldn’t exist but some people disagree with those statements examples are james sapphire and thein:
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I have seen lots of people say james was a very attractive man but also lots of people call him uncanny now looks cannot be objective if the attraction to james sapphire is split same with thein people call him attractive but also uncanny or “ruined himself”
so in my opinion looks isn’t necessarily objective just because there is significant agreement about certain people being attractive there can be objective physical characteristics such as facial symmetry or particular proportions while the value people place on those characteristics and whether they find the overall person attractive remains subjective to people
You can measure things like symmetry height or specific features in a pretty objective way What you cant measure is how a person actually reacts to those traits Someone can check every box that studies say should make them attractive and another person still just doesnt feel it The traits themselves might be measurable but the judgment of whos attractive is where it gets personal theres also a difference between a consensus and something thats objectively true If ninety percent of people agree someones attractive that doesnt magically make it a fact It just means a lot of people share the same taste If attractiveness were truly objective disagreements would feel more like arguing over height or bone structure Instead people can look at the same face and come away with completely different reactions That alone tells you there isnt one universal standard culture and personal experience play a role too What someone finds attractive is shaped by what they grew up seeing their history their preferences Even inside the same culture tastes can be totally different One person is drawn to angular faces while another prefers softer or more unusual features Neither is wrong because attraction isnt a math problem with one answer thats why it gets especially messy with unusual looks Someone like James Sapphire can get positive reactions from a bunch of people while others find him uncanny Same with Thein Some think hes highly attractive others see his features as damaged or just offputting If attractiveness were purely objective those split reactions would be a lot harder to explain Instead they show that the same physical characteristics can land completely differently depending on whos looking i dont think the strongest position is that everything about attractiveness is subjective There are clearly patterns that create agreement which is why some people get called conventionally attractive across large groups It feels more accurate to say attractiveness lies on a spectrum Certain physical traits tend to produce certain reactions but the final judgment is still filtered through personal perception You can point to reasons why someone is widely seen as attractive without pretending the attractiveness itself is some objective fact
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looks are subjective. attraction is subjective. this forum is a cope
 
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so not wanting to read long ass paragraphs= coper
just kill yourself retarded nigger
i changed title so ppl know its a relativly long read
 
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i believe in both objective and subjective but objectively attractive is usually top 1%
there is no such thing as objectively attractive. there will always be people who find someone unattractive.
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so not wanting to read long ass paragraphs= coper
just kill yourself retarded nigger
being ignorant of the truth and choosing to live inside of your bubble = coper
 
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there is no such thing as objectively attractive. there will always be people who find someone unattractive.

being ignorant of the truth and choosing to live inside of your bubble = coper
i agree with that for the most part but i think some people 99/100 people would agree on they are attractive and id consider that closest u can get to objective
 
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there is no such thing as objectively attractive. there will always be people who find someone unattractive.

being ignorant of the truth and choosing to live inside of your bubble = coper
no nigga I dont have to read every thread plus almost everything is subjective this thread could be subjective as well
just picking at straws your stupid asf just shut up lil bro
 
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no nigga I dont have to read every thread plus almost everything is subjective this thread could be subjective as well
just picking at straws your stupid asf just shut up lil bro
then don't reply. atleast let this thread be filled with smart, curious and open-minded people instead of dirty faggots like you.
 
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Attractive or not is objective. Whether someone is really really fucking hot or really fucking hot is subjective yeah.
 
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then don't reply. atleast let this thread be filled with smart, curious and open-minded people instead of dirty faggots like you.
your the dirty faggot here lil bro
 
Now i do think there are people who are objectively attractive still but for the most part looks are more or less subjective example we can all agree that david gandy, jordan barrett and francisco lachowski are objectively attractive
View attachment 5568587View attachment 5568592View attachment 5568594
BUT if attractiveness wasn’t also subjective the whole point of “hear me outs” wouldn’t exist but some people disagree with those statements examples are james sapphire and thein:
View attachment 5568610View attachment 5568611
I have seen lots of people say james was a very attractive man but also lots of people call him uncanny now looks cannot be objective if the attraction to james sapphire is split same with thein people call him attractive but also uncanny or “ruined himself”
so in my opinion looks isn’t necessarily objective just because there is significant agreement about certain people being attractive there can be objective physical characteristics such as facial symmetry or particular proportions while the value people place on those characteristics and whether they find the overall person attractive remains subjective to people
You can measure things like symmetry height or specific features in a pretty objective way What you cant measure is how a person actually reacts to those traits Someone can check every box that studies say should make them attractive and another person still just doesnt feel it The traits themselves might be measurable but the judgment of whos attractive is where it gets personal theres also a difference between a consensus and something thats objectively true If ninety percent of people agree someones attractive that doesnt magically make it a fact It just means a lot of people share the same taste If attractiveness were truly objective disagreements would feel more like arguing over height or bone structure Instead people can look at the same face and come away with completely different reactions That alone tells you there isnt one universal standard culture and personal experience play a role too What someone finds attractive is shaped by what they grew up seeing their history their preferences Even inside the same culture tastes can be totally different One person is drawn to angular faces while another prefers softer or more unusual features Neither is wrong because attraction isnt a math problem with one answer thats why it gets especially messy with unusual looks Someone like James Sapphire can get positive reactions from a bunch of people while others find him uncanny Same with Thein Some think hes highly attractive others see his features as damaged or just offputting If attractiveness were purely objective those split reactions would be a lot harder to explain Instead they show that the same physical characteristics can land completely differently depending on whos looking i dont think the strongest position is that everything about attractiveness is subjective There are clearly patterns that create agreement which is why some people get called conventionally attractive across large groups It feels more accurate to say attractiveness lies on a spectrum Certain physical traits tend to produce certain reactions but the final judgment is still filtered through personal perception You can point to reasons why someone is widely seen as attractive without pretending the attractiveness itself is some objective fact
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