Looksmax users logic when it comes to Steroids and Aging

[Deleted member 20652]

Looksmax users logic when it comes to Steroids and Aging

Step 1. Show examples of bodybuilders who's skin aged badly because they used TRENBOLONE

Step 2 Claim that "steroids ages you" while not taking into account that there are SEVERAL DIFFRENT STEROIDS which all has DIFFRENT EFFECTS and also claim that these bodybuilders were aging badly BECAUSE OF TESTOSTERONE while in reality it was just the TRENBOLONE that caused their skin aging (NOT TESTOSTERONE) and if they would have used TESTOSTERONE ONLY then their skin would be good .

 

[Deleted member 20652]

@LilChico @Vampiremaxxer @Over @Kroker

 

[Deleted member 4362]

All high level athletes have great collagen, that’s enough evidence the agepill is made up

 

[Ritalincel]

 

[Oberyn]

dht ages you

 

[Kroker]

I can get over a bad skin but losing hair is a big NO.

Yet few manage to escape the hair tragedy when taking steroids

 

[Over]

Looksmax users logic when it comes to Steroids and Aging

Step 1. Show examples of bodybuilders who's skin aged badly because they used TRENBOLONE

Step 2 Claim that "steroids ages you" while not taking into account that there are SEVERAL DIFFRENT STEROIDS which all has DIFFRENT EFFECTS and also claim that these bodybuilders were aging badly BECAUSE OF TESTOSTERONE while in reality it was just the TRENBOLONE that caused their skin aging (NOT TESTOSTERONE) and if they would have used TESTOSTERONE ONLY then their skin would be good .

Testosterone is literally what runs inside your veins and what your balls produce, you just increase it by 30x times by injecting. Also Test converts into DHT (over if your hair cannot resist this compound) and Estrogen:

Your skin also becomes thinner, because the levels of collagen and elastin also dip along with estrogen. The hormone estrogen is responsible for making skin look younger due to the hyaluronic acid it produces. Estrogen not only affects your skin but also your muscle mass, metabolism, and energy levels.

Estrogen decreases as women age, reaching an all-time low during menopause. This estrogen decrease is a primary culprit of drying skin that causes the lines around your forehead, eyes, and mouth. Collagen levels also dip with the decrease in estrogen which causes your skin to become thinner.

Also Test E makes you sleep like a motherfucker. I noticed significant skin change and im only on week 3 of cycle. When I wake up absolutely PERFECTLY rested, my skin mogs 99% of entire population.

 

[Over]

All high level athletes have great collagen, that’s enough evidence the agepill is made up

Agepill is mostly genetics too. It's all about your telomeres and DNA.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

If you’re actually low T and take test to get to high normal then it’s probably not gonna accelerate aging, but if you’re already good T levels and take it get superhuman levels then there will be c sequences eventuslly

 

[Over]

If you’re actually low T and take test to get to high normal then it’s probably not gonna accelerate aging, but if you’re already good T levels and take it get superhuman levels then there will be c sequences eventuslly

if you inject for 3-10 years straight then yes

I believe you can do 1-3 cycles each 4-5 months long and come out without a scratch

 

[Cheek0]

Testosterone is literally what runs inside your veins and what your balls produce, you just increase it by 30x times by injecting. Also Test converts into DHT (over if your hair cannot resist this compound) and Estrogen:





Also Test E makes you sleep like a motherfucker. I noticed significant skin change and im only on week 3 of cycle. When I wake up absolutely PERFECTLY rested, my skin mogs 99% of entire population.

Should I inject E to get good skin?

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

if you inject for 3-10 years straight then yes

I believe you can do 1-3 cycles each 4-5 months long and come out without a scratch

Probably right thats why I used the word EVENTUALLY

 

[Deleted member 20652]

I can get over a bad skin but losing hair is a big NO.

Yet few manage to escape the hair tragedy when taking steroids

Just use TRT dose Testosterone (250 mg) together with dutasteride and your hair will be fine

 

[Deleted member 20652]

if you inject for 3-10 years straight then yes

I believe you can do 1-3 cycles each 4-5 months long and come out without a scratch

If it's Testosterone ONLY then you don't even need to take breaks you can just take a TRT dose Testosterone forever and you be fine

Most people who are on TRT actually use Testosterone forever without taking breaks

Just dont use other steroids , only use Testosterone. Take HcG too maintain normal balls n fertility

 

[Over]

If it's Testosterone ONLY then you don't even need to take breaks you can just take a TRT dose Testosterone forever and you be fine

Most people who are on TRT actually use Testosterone forever without taking breaks

Just dont use other steroids , only use Testosterone. Take HcG too maintain normal balls n fertility

When you take T for years and shut your balls down you might have to inject till end of your life. That's why I only do one cycle for now and hop off, depends where this cycle takes me, I expect to be 85kg bodyweight at 177cm which is pretty big for this subhuman height.

 

[Mongrelcel]

does test alone really not cause ageing? I see plenty of anecdotal reports on reddit where people claim it aged them

When you take T for years and shut your balls down you might have to inject till end of your life. That's why I only do one cycle for now and hop off, depends where this cycle takes me, I expect to be 85kg bodyweight at 177cm which is pretty big for this subhuman height.

does this really happen?
I had thought that it always recovers, but it might take more time if you don't cycel but cruise

 

[Deleted member 22627]

Looksmax users logic when it comes to Steroids and Aging

Step 1. Show examples of bodybuilders who's skin aged badly because they used TRENBOLONE

Step 2 Claim that "steroids ages you" while not taking into account that there are SEVERAL DIFFRENT STEROIDS which all has DIFFRENT EFFECTS and also claim that these bodybuilders were aging badly BECAUSE OF TESTOSTERONE while in reality it was just the TRENBOLONE that caused their skin aging (NOT TESTOSTERONE) and if they would have used TESTOSTERONE ONLY then their skin would be good .

I agree. Light steroid use don't age you. There is virtually no science backing those claims up.
Yeah if a teenager uses lots of roids he will definitely look older quickly but it hasn't aged him and most of that would go away if they stopped using.

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Living with low natural Testosterone levels will actually have worse effects on your health than being on TRT

 

[Deleted member 20652]

does test alone really not cause ageing? I see plenty of anecdotal reports on reddit where people claim it aged them


does this really happen?
I had thought that it always recovers, but it might take more time if you don't cycel but cruise

Testosterone is anti aging

Why would the primary most important male hormone be bad for your skin? (LOL)

 

[Mongrelcel]

Testosterone is anti aging

Source?

I don't mean this in a negative way, if I see enough evidence that test won't age me, I'll jump on it instantly

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Having LOW Testosterone levels is actually what ages you

Not having high Testosterone levels

 

[Over]

does test alone really not cause ageing? I see plenty of anecdotal reports on reddit where people claim it aged them


does this really happen?
I had thought that it always recovers, but it might take more time if you don't cycel but cruise

yea years on Test and balls on vacation can fuck you up

Again, reddit cucks might have high doses on mind + people take other compounds very often like Dbol boldenone or fucking Trenbolone, and for how long do they inject?

Larry Wheels hairline after 10 years WITHOUT EVER HOPPING OFF, he did 500mg T weekly and 150mg Anadrol DAILY, he also did 1200mg of Test and 450mg of Tren

When starting out with steroids, he claimed to have taken 1,200 milligrams of testosterone, including prohormones, trenbolone, dianabol, and a clone of superdrol, all in the same sixteen-week cycle.

That's not all. He went even further by experimenting with trenbolone acetate (400mgs doses) and trenbolone enanthate (450mg doses). This caused him extreme abdominal pain — a common side-effect of steroid use

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Source?

I don't mean this in a negative way, if I see enough evidence that test won't age me, I'll jump on it instantly

There are plenty of studies on Testosterone and collagen or Testosterone and skin thickness

For a more simple evidence than reading long study articles then just check this pic

Downside to the right on the pic "collagen growth"

 

[Deleted member 20652]

yea years on Test and balls on vacation can fuck you up

Again, reddit cucks might have high doses on mind + people take other compounds very often like Dbol boldenone or fucking Trenbolone, and for how long do they inject?

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Larry Wheels hairline after 10 years WITHOUT EVER HOPPING OFF, he did 500mg T weekly and 150mg Anadrol DAILY, he also did 1200mg of Test and 450mg of Tren

HcG for balls while taking Testosterone only

 

[Prettyboy]

Living with low natural Testosterone levels will actually have worse effects on your health than being on TRT

But it’s ironic because those with low natural testosterone levels would never know it can be different. They think being unmotivated and tired is normal

 

[Over]

But it’s ironic because those with low natural testosterone levels would never know it can be different. They think being unmotivated and tired is normal

you cannot be tired on 500mg of Test unless you workout ultra heavy 7 days a week

I wake up at 6AM because I am too well rested at that point, and go through whole day at full energy. I do my heavy leg day and feel no fatigue after. Also depression is impossible on Test.

 

[Deleted member 3672]

does test alone really not cause ageing? I see plenty of anecdotal reports on reddit where people claim it aged them


does this really happen?
I had thought that it always recovers, but it might take more time if you don't cycel but cruise

Rarely do people never fully recover, this usually happens when testosterone is used alongside extremely HPTA suppressive compounds like tren and so forth and are abused for years on end at high doses.

You can usually recover with HCG and a serm like nolvadex or clomid/enclo. You can probably recover naturally too, but HCG and SERMs just make the process much easier and you don't have to feel like shit for a while until your balls are producing T again.

However, I have heard anecdotal responses from extreme steroid abusers who were never able to fully recover even using HCG and the SERMs I listed above and trying everything they can and still being unable to recover, but having success with a peptide named "triptorelin", which supposedly brings your balls back in 1-2 doses of the compound .

 

[Deleted member 3672]

you cannot be tired on 500mg of Test unless you workout ultra heavy 7 days a week

I wake up at 6AM because I am too well rested at that point, and go through whole day at full energy. I do my heavy leg day and feel no fatigue after. Also depression is impossible on Test.

Are you taking an AI with your 500mg, and how often are you dosing with Test E?

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Why do you think men age better than women? Testosterone makes your skin thicker

 

[Deleted member 22627]

does test alone really not cause ageing? I see plenty of anecdotal reports on reddit where people claim it aged them


does this really happen?
I had thought that it always recovers, but it might take more time if you don't cycel but cruise

Was on for a year and my balls shrank quite a lot. I eventually got off it because pinning your ass every couple of days gets old fast and I felt the effect of the test didn't really do much after a point.

It was brutal coming off though and my libido suffered for a long ass time. Still not recovered i think. I should have used HCG during all that time but i was stupid. I used HCG for my pct though.

 

[Over]

Are you taking an AI with your 500mg, and how often are you dosing with Test E?

No I have Aromasin untouched, no high E effects yet so I don’t have to take it. Tuesday Friday 250mg pins

 

[AlexBrown84]

does test alone really not cause ageing? I see plenty of anecdotal reports on reddit where people claim it aged them

It does despite Thomas saying it doesn’t and never providing a real fucking study just saying muh it’s anti aging.

I wish it was anti aging but if you have normal testosterone, injecting won’t do shit for anti aging.

And Thomas dom will never show studies to prove this

 

[Mongrelcel]

It does despite Thomas saying it doesn’t and never providing a real fucking study just saying muh it’s anti aging.

I wish it was anti aging but if you have normal testosterone, injecting won’t do shit for anti aging.

And Thomas dom will never show studies to prove this

so far I've only found evidence against the anti-ageing effect, that test decreases collagen production

 

[Over]

so far I've only found evidence against the anti-ageing effect, that test decreases collagen production

If Test decreases collagen and E increases, then does cycle really age you if Test converts to E?

This is why you need to balance T and E, you need both you cannot crash E because muh it’s for women

 

[2d v2]

dht ages you

u can de age your face with micro needling, copper peptides, and eating loads of collagen. U can keep your skin amazing as long as you can keep the supply of maintenance up.

 

[Deleted member 20652]

It does despite Thomas saying it doesn’t and never providing a real fucking study just saying muh it’s anti aging.

I wish it was anti aging but if you have normal testosterone, injecting won’t do shit for anti aging.

And Thomas dom will never show studies to prove this

You don't show studies either saying that Testosterone is bad for skin

Even if you have found such studies , don't you think that's just Jewish feminist anti male anti Testosterone propaganda? Studies founded by Jewish corporations to make people believe that Testosterone is evil hormone and bad for you

Why the hell would Testosterone degrade your collagen? Why would the primary most important male hormone have such a bad effect? Doesn't make sense at all

And Yes I can show studies where Testosterone increases collagen , but I would need some time because those studies articles are really long n complicated to read n there are tons of them

 

[AlexBrown84]

You don't show studies either saying that Testosterone is bad for skin

Even if you have found such studies , don't you think that's just Jewish feminist anti male anti Testosterone propaganda? Studies founded by Jewish corporations to make people believe that Testosterone is evil hormone and bad for you

Why the hell would Testosterone degrade your collagen? Why would the primary most important male hormone have such a bad effect? Doesn't make sense at all

And Yes I can show studies where Testosterone increases collagen , but I would need some time because those studies articles are really long n complicated to read

Link me the study if you actually manage to find study supporting your claims and not for a population with low testosterone that got on trt because obviously that will help

You don't show studies either saying that Testosterone is bad for skin

“Testosterone inhibits the proliferation and collagen synthesis of CF induced by Ang II. The underlying mechanism may involve the ERK1/2 signaling pathway.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5172501/#:~:text=Testosterone%20inhibits%20the%20proliferation%20and,the%20ERK1%2F2%20signaling%20pathway.

 

[Deleted member 20652]

@AlexBrown84

ALSO why do you WANT Testosterone to be bad for collagen? The way you're defending that propaganda makes it seem like you don't actually want Testosterone to be anti aging? You rather wish Testosterone to be bad?

 

[AlexBrown84]

@AlexBrown84

ALSO why do you WANT Testosterone to be bad for collagen? The way you're defending that propaganda makes it seem like you don't actually want Testosterone to be anti aging? You rather wish Testosterone to be bad?

I want it to be true but it’s retarded you haven’t shown one study supporting your claim

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Link me the study if you actually manage to find study supporting your claims and not for a population with low testosterone that got on trt because obviously that will help



“Testosterone inhibits the proliferation and collagen synthesis of CF induced by Ang II. The underlying mechanism may involve the ERK1/2 signaling pathway.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5172501/#:~:text=Testosterone%20inhibits%20the%20proliferation%20and,the%20ERK1%2F2%20signaling%20pathway.

Can you link the whole study? I will read it.

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Also don't you believe ANECDOTES? @AlexBrown84

All the people who tried Testosterone n noticed improved skin n more smooth youthful skin ? Like it was for me n Real Rob n @rdsky for byspel (for example). All of us got improved skin from Testosterone

 

[AlexBrown84]

Also don't you believe ANECDOTES? @AlexBrown84

All the people who tried Testosterone n noticed improved skin n more smooth youthful skin ? Like it was for me n Real Rob n @rdsky for byspel (for example). All of us got improved skin from Testosterone

Did you already have low testosterone before taking it? If so that’s why

I don’t think testosterone does anything that benefits the skin if you already have good levels and start supplementing

If you’re old or low test like you, then yea obviously your skin would benefit from it since you had a hormonal imbalance in the first place

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

Totally agree bro, just check this out

These two are younger than beiber btw (27)

 

[Deleted member 20652]

I want it to be true but it’s retarded you haven’t shown one study supporting your claim

Explain the image first.

"Collagen growth"



I will find studies after. I believe Real Rob actually posted a study on lookism once I will see if I can find that one

Also do you know Testosterone increases IGF-1 production ? And do you know IGF-1 increases collagen?

Testosterone indirectly increases collagen by increasing IGF-1 production

 

[AlexBrown84]

Explain the image first.

View attachment 1886849

"Collagen growth"



I will find studies after. I believe Real Rob actually posted a study on lookism once I will see if I can find that one

Also do you know Testosterone increases IGF-1 production ? And do you know IGF-1 increases collagen?

Testosterone indirectly increases collagen by increasing IGF-1 production

That’s literally just a chart. Anybody could make that

Find a study of normal test level males supplementing test and getting improved collagen because I couldn’t find shit other than old people

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

All high level athletes have great collagen, that’s enough evidence the agepill is made up

High level athletes have elite genetics combined with pharma grade PEDS. We’re talking about avg joe and chinese ratpiss here

 

[Over]

Totally agree bro, just check this out
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These two are younger than beiber btw (27)View attachment 1886853View attachment 1886852

First nigga could maybe have shit genetics. How do you know what he looked like before roids (obviously he is roided). Also look at his chest he must have ton of DHT.

Some people just look older even without Test. David Laid despite blasting roids doesn’t look severely aged.

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

First nigga could maybe have shit genetics. How do you know what he looked like before roids (obviously he is roided). Also look at his chest he must have ton of DHT.

Some people just look older even without Test. David Laid despite blasting roids doesn’t look severely aged.

End of the day it all comes back to that. You truly can’t overcome genetics

 

[Deleted member 20652]

That’s literally just a chart. Anybody could make that

Find a study of normal test level males supplementing test and getting improved collagen because I couldn’t find shit other than old people

Explain the part of IGF 1 then?

Testosterone increases IGF 1 and IGF 1 in turn increases collagen

Testosterone >>> IGF 1 >>> COLLAGEN

ALSO THERE IS ALWAYS GONNA BE STUDIES FOR BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN NO MATTER WHAT TOPIC . SOME STUDIES SAYS TESTOSTERONE INCREASES COLLAGEN WHILE SOME STUDIES SAY TESTOSTERONE DECREASES COLLAGEN. I WOULD RATHER BELIEVE THE STUDIES THAT SAY TESTOSTERONE INCREASES COLLAGEN. BOTH BECAUSE IT SIMPLY MAKES MORE SENSE THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT PRIMARY NATURAL MALE HORMONE WOULD BENEFIT YOUR SKIN RATHER THAN GOING AGAINST YOUR SKIN

AND ALSO

BECAUSE THE STUDIES THAT SAY TESTOSTERONE IS BAD FOR COLLAGEN ARE LIKELY JUST JEWISH ANTI MALE ANTI TESTOSTERONE PROPAGANDA FOUNDED STUDIES

WESTERN PROPAGANDA ARE REALLY TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING TO DEMONIZE THE MALE HORMONE TESTOSTERONE AND MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE TESTOSTERONE IS A BAD HORMONE.

 

[Over]

End of the day it all comes back to that. You truly can’t overcome genetics

Exactly, in the end it's all about genetics. If your genes can resist the stress roids put your body through, then you won't suffer much side effects.

Normies are like NPCs, they watch tiktok/yt video about roids and go "hell nah that's too dangerous":
- muh my balls will shrink -> you inject HCG and they won't
- muh when you start you can never stop roiding -> HCG + proper PCT and you are back to normal
- muh i will go bald -> unless you have subhuman hair genetics then you shouldn't, maybe if you roid for years and years at high doses
- muh i will get acne -> again, if you inject 1g+ for years then maybe, I inject 500mg and zero acne problems
- muh my heart -> you can take meds to lower heartrate and live healthy (no coffee no alco no cigs drink tons of water do cardio)
- muh i will age faster -> again doses and genetics, I guess I will find out myself, I am 26 without a single wrinkle even around eye area, people tell me I look 18-20, week 3 my skin looks as good as before or slightly better
- muh people die from steroids -> yeah, niggers who abuse high tren + high T doses and do drugs like Zyzz and party a lot for years without end eventually die from it
- muh it shortens your lifespan -> how do you even know how long you'll live? how do you know it does? besides what's better: live till 70 as incel/normie or live till 60-65 as high tier normie