Looksmaxing ISN'T Narcissistic

[irrumator praetor]

...and participating in hypergamy ISN'T degenerate (atp)

Modern society elevates above all; measures, weights and values primarily genetics of the individual. The individual is valued according to his genetics.

Everything tied to this measurement fundamentally creates your identity. Experiences tied to this measurement are core life experiences, a pillar of life. Such as: approval and acceptance, positive feedback loops, confidence and validation, etc.

No time in human history has society ever given so much capital and opportunity, advantage and privilege to people who are genetically superior, reaching down into the realm of average men, normies and plebs. In intelligence and looks. Implying intelligence genetics, and other factors, would make up for avoiding harmful propaganda and pitfalls, ensuring proper development and nutrition so that the nurture part of development is covered. Same applies to surgery, your intelligence determines if you get it and benefit from it or not. All of this is as far as these factors pertain to possibly reproducing, which is why im not mentioning roids lol.

Now that we got the water part out of the way, ascending and claiming only what is yours (genetically in the form of already present looks, and IQ) in the form of recognition, respect and approval, is totally valid. Its not narcy at all. You only wanted that validation which you never got. That same subhuman face pre-ascention is calling out in your spirit, post-ascention. Asking for things it felt it was always entitled to. Its actually statistically rare to be a true narcy, so most people "acting" narcy are just compensating for the validation they need to make up for.

So people need to stop calling looksmaxing narcy and insecure, instead they should call society hateful and unwelcoming.

To rephrase and summarize the point I made above: it is completely normal and natural to water at the mouth of the vision of you ascending, finally getting the treatment you should've been getting naturally. Modern society is perfect for people who have good genetics and IQ to show it off, now is the time to look good and ascend, if ever. Its a question if you would ever be able to benefit off your looks to the same degree ever again, post financial collapse or societal restructuring.

This is that kinda time in the history of HUMANITY. And the way you look forms the core pillar of your IDENTITY: once you ascend your IDENTITY will change. You literally will not be the same person ever again. And you will become a BETTER person. So, none of this is narcy at all. It is actually completely virtuous.

The point about hypergamy and degeneracy:

1) there are no viable alternatives to society and degeneracy. It is not a valid option to not participate in said degeneracy (if given the ability) because it has unavoidably become a part of regular life, aka the social fabric. If you wanna be successful -> you have to be "degenerate". It sounds counter intuitive, it is, but society wouldn't actively be degenerating otherwise. You need to be degenerate in order to develop certain social skills when it comes to relationships with women, its INEVITABLE. I could end the point right there but theres other factors like networking and people skills etc.

2) inability to participate in the degeneracy is even worse lol

You could've argued it was immoral when it was first starting out, when people could've still opted out. Today, you're either degenerate or unsuccessful, no in-between. Because there doesn't exist, or barely exists, a parallel to society, or another non-degenerate or less-degenerate option. You NEED the dating apps, social media and clubs.

So the conclusion? Don't feel bad about engaging in hypergamy. There's no alternative

inb4 water but I still see people moralfagging and shit. This should be the mindset of all the people on this site

 

[xlimz]

i’m gonna read this.. one day

 

[irrumator praetor]

Also we have an issue of disaffected men being unable to achieve individuation in society they're in, because they're so deformed and repressed. Imagine the world doesn't even allow you to express yourself or be yourself. So am I gonna call that dude narcy when he ascends and posts a tiktok of the ascension? Fuck no. So I wouldn't call it a narcissistic trend, I'd call it a trend where men finally get their shit together and save themselves from a terrible future, and finally get human respect

 

[Ldar09867]

...and participating in hypergamy ISN'T degenerate (atp)

Modern society elevates above all; measures, weights and values primarily genetics of the individual. The individual is valued according to his genetics.

Everything tied to this measurement fundamentally creates your identity. Experiences tied to this measurement are core life experiences, a pillar of life. Such as: approval and acceptance, positive feedback loops, confidence and validation, etc.

No time in human history has society ever given so much capital and opportunity, advantage and privilege to people who are genetically superior, reaching down into the realm of average men, normies and plebs. In intelligence and looks. Implying intelligence genetics, and other factors, would make up for avoiding harmful propaganda and pitfalls, ensuring proper development and nutrition so that the nurture part of development is covered. Same applies to surgery, your intelligence determines if you get it and benefit from it or not. All of this is as far as these factors pertain to possibly reproducing, which is why im not mentioning roids lol.

Now that we got the water part out of the way, ascending and claiming only what is yours (genetically in the form of already present looks, and IQ) in the form of recognition, respect and approval, is totally valid. Its not narcy at all. You only wanted that validation which you never got. That same subhuman face pre-ascention is calling out in your spirit, post-ascention. Asking for things it felt it was always entitled to. Its actually statistically rare to be a true narcy, so most people "acting" narcy are just compensating for the validation they need to make up for.

So people need to stop calling looksmaxing narcy and insecure, instead they should call society hateful and unwelcoming.

To rephrase and summarize the point I made above: it is completely normal and natural to water at the mouth of the vision of you ascending, finally getting the treatment you should've been getting naturally. Modern society is perfect for people who have good genetics and IQ to show it off, now is the time to look good and ascend, if ever. Its a question if you would ever be able to benefit off your looks to the same degree ever again, post financial collapse or societal restructuring.

This is that kinda time in the history of HUMANITY. And the way you look forms the core pillar of your IDENTITY: once you ascend your IDENTITY will change. You literally will not be the same person ever again. And you will become a BETTER person. So, none of this is narcy at all. It is actually completely virtuous.

The point about hypergamy and degeneracy:

1) there are no viable alternatives to society and degeneracy. It is not a valid option to not participate in said degeneracy (if given the ability) because it has unavoidably become a part of regular life, aka the social fabric. If you wanna be successful -> you have to be "degenerate". It sounds counter intuitive, it is, but society wouldn't actively be degenerating otherwise. You need to be degenerate in order to develop certain social skills when it comes to relationships with women, its INEVITABLE. I could end the point right there but theres other factors like networking and people skills etc.

2) inability to participate in the degeneracy is even worse lol

You could've argued it was immoral when it was first starting out, when people could've still opted out. Today, you're either degenerate or unsuccessful, no in-between. Because there doesn't exist, or barely exists, a parallel to society, or another non-degenerate or less-degenerate option. You NEED the dating apps, social media and clubs.

So the conclusion? Don't feel bad about engaging in hypergamy. There's no alternative

inb4 water but I still see people moralfagging and shit. This should be the mindset of all the people on this site

 

[irrumator praetor]

Ironically the same normies that would call looksmaxing narcy and mentally ill, would either treat you better or bully you and give you several mental illnesses BASED on how you look.

 

[Coping Truecel]

...and participating in hypergamy ISN'T degenerate (atp)

Modern society elevates above all; measures, weights and values primarily genetics of the individual. The individual is valued according to his genetics.

Everything tied to this measurement fundamentally creates your identity. Experiences tied to this measurement are core life experiences, a pillar of life. Such as: approval and acceptance, positive feedback loops, confidence and validation, etc.

No time in human history has society ever given so much capital and opportunity, advantage and privilege to people who are genetically superior, reaching down into the realm of average men, normies and plebs. In intelligence and looks. Implying intelligence genetics, and other factors, would make up for avoiding harmful propaganda and pitfalls, ensuring proper development and nutrition so that the nurture part of development is covered. Same applies to surgery, your intelligence determines if you get it and benefit from it or not. All of this is as far as these factors pertain to possibly reproducing, which is why im not mentioning roids lol.

Now that we got the water part out of the way, ascending and claiming only what is yours (genetically in the form of already present looks, and IQ) in the form of recognition, respect and approval, is totally valid. Its not narcy at all. You only wanted that validation which you never got. That same subhuman face pre-ascention is calling out in your spirit, post-ascention. Asking for things it felt it was always entitled to. Its actually statistically rare to be a true narcy, so most people "acting" narcy are just compensating for the validation they need to make up for.

So people need to stop calling looksmaxing narcy and insecure, instead they should call society hateful and unwelcoming.

To rephrase and summarize the point I made above: it is completely normal and natural to water at the mouth of the vision of you ascending, finally getting the treatment you should've been getting naturally. Modern society is perfect for people who have good genetics and IQ to show it off, now is the time to look good and ascend, if ever. Its a question if you would ever be able to benefit off your looks to the same degree ever again, post financial collapse or societal restructuring.

This is that kinda time in the history of HUMANITY. And the way you look forms the core pillar of your IDENTITY: once you ascend your IDENTITY will change. You literally will not be the same person ever again. And you will become a BETTER person. So, none of this is narcy at all. It is actually completely virtuous.

The point about hypergamy and degeneracy:

1) there are no viable alternatives to society and degeneracy. It is not a valid option to not participate in said degeneracy (if given the ability) because it has unavoidably become a part of regular life, aka the social fabric. If you wanna be successful -> you have to be "degenerate". It sounds counter intuitive, it is, but society wouldn't actively be degenerating otherwise. You need to be degenerate in order to develop certain social skills when it comes to relationships with women, its INEVITABLE. I could end the point right there but theres other factors like networking and people skills etc.

2) inability to participate in the degeneracy is even worse lol

You could've argued it was immoral when it was first starting out, when people could've still opted out. Today, you're either degenerate or unsuccessful, no in-between. Because there doesn't exist, or barely exists, a parallel to society, or another non-degenerate or less-degenerate option. You NEED the dating apps, social media and clubs.

So the conclusion? Don't feel bad about engaging in hypergamy. There's no alternative

inb4 water but I still see people moralfagging and shit. This should be the mindset of all the people on this site

Idc if looksmaxxing is narcissistic, I'd still continue doing it. Being Sub-par in looks is a fate worse than death and will significantly negatively impact your life, not only when it comes to dating

 

[Coping Truecel]

...and participating in hypergamy ISN'T degenerate (atp)

Modern society elevates above all; measures, weights and values primarily genetics of the individual. The individual is valued according to his genetics.

Everything tied to this measurement fundamentally creates your identity. Experiences tied to this measurement are core life experiences, a pillar of life. Such as: approval and acceptance, positive feedback loops, confidence and validation, etc.

No time in human history has society ever given so much capital and opportunity, advantage and privilege to people who are genetically superior, reaching down into the realm of average men, normies and plebs. In intelligence and looks. Implying intelligence genetics, and other factors, would make up for avoiding harmful propaganda and pitfalls, ensuring proper development and nutrition so that the nurture part of development is covered. Same applies to surgery, your intelligence determines if you get it and benefit from it or not. All of this is as far as these factors pertain to possibly reproducing, which is why im not mentioning roids lol.

Now that we got the water part out of the way, ascending and claiming only what is yours (genetically in the form of already present looks, and IQ) in the form of recognition, respect and approval, is totally valid. Its not narcy at all. You only wanted that validation which you never got. That same subhuman face pre-ascention is calling out in your spirit, post-ascention. Asking for things it felt it was always entitled to. Its actually statistically rare to be a true narcy, so most people "acting" narcy are just compensating for the validation they need to make up for.

So people need to stop calling looksmaxing narcy and insecure, instead they should call society hateful and unwelcoming.

To rephrase and summarize the point I made above: it is completely normal and natural to water at the mouth of the vision of you ascending, finally getting the treatment you should've been getting naturally. Modern society is perfect for people who have good genetics and IQ to show it off, now is the time to look good and ascend, if ever. Its a question if you would ever be able to benefit off your looks to the same degree ever again, post financial collapse or societal restructuring.

This is that kinda time in the history of HUMANITY. And the way you look forms the core pillar of your IDENTITY: once you ascend your IDENTITY will change. You literally will not be the same person ever again. And you will become a BETTER person. So, none of this is narcy at all. It is actually completely virtuous.

The point about hypergamy and degeneracy:

1) there are no viable alternatives to society and degeneracy. It is not a valid option to not participate in said degeneracy (if given the ability) because it has unavoidably become a part of regular life, aka the social fabric. If you wanna be successful -> you have to be "degenerate". It sounds counter intuitive, it is, but society wouldn't actively be degenerating otherwise. You need to be degenerate in order to develop certain social skills when it comes to relationships with women, its INEVITABLE. I could end the point right there but theres other factors like networking and people skills etc.

2) inability to participate in the degeneracy is even worse lol

You could've argued it was immoral when it was first starting out, when people could've still opted out. Today, you're either degenerate or unsuccessful, no in-between. Because there doesn't exist, or barely exists, a parallel to society, or another non-degenerate or less-degenerate option. You NEED the dating apps, social media and clubs.

So the conclusion? Don't feel bad about engaging in hypergamy. There's no alternative

inb4 water but I still see people moralfagging and shit. This should be the mindset of all the people on this site

I really wish hypergamy wasn't the end all be all but there is really no going back at this point. Either you participate or get left behind. I don't even looksmax to slay, I just want to be able to HOPEFULLY attract a foid that hasn't been ran through

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

depends why you looksmaxx, many here do it for ego alone

 

[Deleted member 297070]

...and participating in hypergamy ISN'T degenerate (atp)

Modern society elevates above all; measures, weights and values primarily genetics of the individual. The individual is valued according to his genetics.

Everything tied to this measurement fundamentally creates your identity. Experiences tied to this measurement are core life experiences, a pillar of life. Such as: approval and acceptance, positive feedback loops, confidence and validation, etc.

No time in human history has society ever given so much capital and opportunity, advantage and privilege to people who are genetically superior, reaching down into the realm of average men, normies and plebs. In intelligence and looks. Implying intelligence genetics, and other factors, would make up for avoiding harmful propaganda and pitfalls, ensuring proper development and nutrition so that the nurture part of development is covered. Same applies to surgery, your intelligence determines if you get it and benefit from it or not. All of this is as far as these factors pertain to possibly reproducing, which is why im not mentioning roids lol.

Now that we got the water part out of the way, ascending and claiming only what is yours (genetically in the form of already present looks, and IQ) in the form of recognition, respect and approval, is totally valid. Its not narcy at all. You only wanted that validation which you never got. That same subhuman face pre-ascention is calling out in your spirit, post-ascention. Asking for things it felt it was always entitled to. Its actually statistically rare to be a true narcy, so most people "acting" narcy are just compensating for the validation they need to make up for.

So people need to stop calling looksmaxing narcy and insecure, instead they should call society hateful and unwelcoming.

To rephrase and summarize the point I made above: it is completely normal and natural to water at the mouth of the vision of you ascending, finally getting the treatment you should've been getting naturally. Modern society is perfect for people who have good genetics and IQ to show it off, now is the time to look good and ascend, if ever. Its a question if you would ever be able to benefit off your looks to the same degree ever again, post financial collapse or societal restructuring.

This is that kinda time in the history of HUMANITY. And the way you look forms the core pillar of your IDENTITY: once you ascend your IDENTITY will change. You literally will not be the same person ever again. And you will become a BETTER person. So, none of this is narcy at all. It is actually completely virtuous.

The point about hypergamy and degeneracy:

1) there are no viable alternatives to society and degeneracy. It is not a valid option to not participate in said degeneracy (if given the ability) because it has unavoidably become a part of regular life, aka the social fabric. If you wanna be successful -> you have to be "degenerate". It sounds counter intuitive, it is, but society wouldn't actively be degenerating otherwise. You need to be degenerate in order to develop certain social skills when it comes to relationships with women, its INEVITABLE. I could end the point right there but theres other factors like networking and people skills etc.

2) inability to participate in the degeneracy is even worse lol

You could've argued it was immoral when it was first starting out, when people could've still opted out. Today, you're either degenerate or unsuccessful, no in-between. Because there doesn't exist, or barely exists, a parallel to society, or another non-degenerate or less-degenerate option. You NEED the dating apps, social media and clubs.

So the conclusion? Don't feel bad about engaging in hypergamy. There's no alternative

inb4 water but I still see people moralfagging and shit. This should be the mindset of all the people on this site

Looksmaxxing isn't narcissistic but newgen "Rate me" "5'11 at 14 is it over" tiktokfags are almost all narcissists

 

[irrumator praetor]

Idc if looksmaxxing is narcissistic, I'd still continue doing it. Being Sub-par in looks is a fate worse than death and will significantly negatively impact your life, not only when it comes to dating

Yea its a natural necessity ATP, the entire generation of people didn't just turn narcy overnight. People wanna be free and unashamed, looking bad is like wearing chains 24/7. You're not your true self when you're ugly, and you're the truest self when you're pretty.

I really wish hypergamy wasn't the end all be all but there is really no going back at this point. Either you participate or get left behind. I don't even looksmax to slay, I just want to be able to HOPEFULLY attract a foid that hasn't been ran through

I already made a thread about that, tldr you aren't gonna meet that foid, at best you'll meet a foid willing to try and put up a performance. But generally speaking you'd be happier trying to slay LTBs when you do ascend. The future remains uncertain

 

[irrumator praetor]

depends why you looksmaxx, many here do it for ego alone

Well Im arguing that its not just about ego, I mean yea we do see some already gl people come here lol even before it started trending

 

[irrumator praetor]

Looksmaxxing isn't narcissistic but newgen "Rate me" "5'11 at 14 is it over" tiktokfags are almost all narcissists

I'd just blame it on the fact its trending rn

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

depends why you looksmaxx, many here do it for ego alone

especially if you are a NT normie and not some "incel" ltn, the rich come from rich families and are still gready.

many people have differnt reasons to ascend or improve, personally I'm not a sub I mog most mfs in my year so i won't lie and say my ego whouldn't be filled by mogging alone even if this isn't my primary reason

 

[irrumator praetor]

especially if you are a NT normie and not some "incel" ltn, the rich come from rich families and are still gready.

many people have differnt reasons to ascend or improve, personally I'm not a sub I mog most mfs in my year so i won't lie and say my ego whouldn't be filled by mogging alone even if this isn't my primary reason

tbf basing your ego off of mogging is also kinda natural in our society today, because society is whats making it matter the most. Mogging didn't matter in the past as much as it does today. So, its a must that at least a portion of your ego is based off of that alone. It wouldn't be narcissistic per se, its justified and reasonable/logical

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

tbf basing your ego off of mogging is also kinda natural in our society today, because society is whats making it matter the most. Mogging didn't matter in the past as much as it does today. So, its a must that at least a portion of your ego is based off of that alone

it's def gotten worse with social media but men have always been "comparing dick sizes" and obv same with foids but more extreme.

good thread as usual bhai

 

[irrumator praetor]

it's def gotten worse with social media but men have always been "comparing dick sizes" and obv same with foids but more extreme.

good thread as usual bhai

Thanks bro, appreciate you always giving valuable input in the threads I make, you're high IQ asf

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

Thanks bro, appreciate you always giving valuable input in the threads I make, you're high IQ asf

thanks brah I love your threads one of the best parts of this forums, without it it whould just bea 4chan, an edgier version of tiktok or even a cod loby tbh

 

[Luquier]

Also we have an issue of disaffected men being unable to achieve individuation in society they're in, because they're so deformed and repressed. Imagine the world doesn't even allow you to express yourself or be yourself. So am I gonna call that dude narcy when he ascends and posts a tiktok of the ascension? Fuck no. So I wouldn't call it a narcissistic trend, I'd call it a trend where men finally get their shit together and save themselves from a terrible future, and finally get human respect

Yep it’s just survival atp

 

[tomacōck]

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