Looksmaxing steroids

[FutureSlayer]

We need completely different protocols compared to balding roidheads.

As far as my knowledge concerns in order to obtain the maximum results with minimal sides you can only blast

TESTOSTERONE as base
TURINABOL as an oral

Don’t know very much about dosages and if PCT is really needed or a scam (opinions differ very much in this regard)

 

[Deathwish_Snake]

I tried TRT for a year, wasn't a hyper responder although it did put like 20-40 pounds on my lifts just not the hypertrophic muscle mass response I was hoping for. I would recommend HCG instead of TRT honestly, if you can find it and afford it.

 

[Deleted member 29167]

just do sarms tbh

seems more safe and is less illegal

 

[FutureSlayer]

just do sarms tbh

seems more safe and is less illegal

Don’t do shit, fakes, overpriced, not studied enough

 

[Deathwish_Snake]

I'm all for being a hardcore gymcel but hitting PED's right away is fucking stupid, you don't even have to be as jacked as most body builders to get laid- literally just starve yourself until you get abs and don't ruin your hip to shoulders ratio so hit your heavy compound lifts and lateral raises

 

[thefleee]

I tried TRT for a year, wasn't a hyper responder although it did put like 20-40 pounds on my lifts just not the hypertrophic muscle mass response I was hoping for. I would recommend HCG instead of TRT honestly, if you can find it and afford it.

hcg is cheap

 

[SkullDynamics]

We need completely different protocols compared to balding roidheads.

As far as my knowledge concerns in order to obtain the maximum results with minimal sides you can only blast

TESTOSTERONE as base
TURINABOL as an oral

Don’t know very much about dosages and if PCT is really needed or a scam (opinions differ very much in this regard)

500mg test e/ week
40mg tbol ed
200mg primo/ week
2iu hgh ed
40mg anny ed
furosemide on occasion
other shit

 

[FutureSlayer]

500mg test e/ week
40mg tbol ed
200mg primo/ week
2iu hgh ed
40mg anny ed
furosemide on occasion
other shit

what about pct, estrogens lowering to prevent gyno, hairloss prevention?

 

[FutureSlayer]

500mg test e/ week
40mg tbol ed
200mg primo/ week
2iu hgh ed
40mg anny ed
furosemide on occasion
other shit

also wtf is anny and when should i ingest furosemide

 

[SkullDynamics]

what about pct, estrogens lowering to prevent gyno, hairloss prevention?

Pct with nolvadex n other shit. this stack wont cause gyno as it doesnt promote prolactin or e2 or bother other pathways . hairloss is unavoidable in some ppl unless you take fin with roids, which is discouraged generally

 

[SkullDynamics]

also wtf is anny and when should i ingest furosemide

anny is anavar choose between tbol or anavar in the stack.

 

[thefleee]

also wtf is anny and when should i ingest furosemide

anavar and you take furo when you start to bloat so as needed

 

[FutureSlayer]

Pct with nolvadex n other shit. this stack wont cause gyno as it doesnt promote prolactin or e2 or bother other pathways . hairloss is unavoidable in some ppl unless you take fin with roids, which is discouraged generally

I had teenager gyno so I think i’m prolly prone to it even on that base of test. Regarding the hair thing I’m already taking DUTA to prevent, is it feasible to keep taking it on cycle?

 

[SkullDynamics]

I had teenager gyno so I think i’m prolly prone to it even on that base of test. Regarding the hair thing I’m already taking DUTA to prevent, is it feasible to keep taking it on cycle?

w duta Its fine. and you wont get gyno.

 

[FutureSlayer]

w duta Its fine. and you wont get gyno.

any blood analysis shit I should bother with before, during and after the cycle in order to be healthy and risk less?

 

[SkullDynamics]

any blood analysis shit I should bother with before, during and after the cycle in order to be healthy and risk less?

monitor bp n take full blood panel every 12 weeks

 

[FutureSlayer]

monitor bp n take full blood panel every 12 weeks

How should I fix it if it’s outside the baseline levels?

 

[thefleee]

How should I fix it if it’s outside the baseline levels?

depends whats off, if its hematocrit could be as easy as donating blood

 

[thefleee]

How should I fix it if it’s outside the baseline levels?

while on cycle it's important to have AI on hands and know the symptoms to look out for like sensitive nips. just don't be touching them everyday or get obsessive, you'll know

 

[FutureSlayer]

depends whats off, if its hematocrit could be as easy as donating blood

any good guides about cycling bro? Not addressing the roidheads shit, want to keep it lean, simple and clean

 

[FutureSlayer]

while on cycle it's important to have AI on hands and know the symptoms to look out for like sensitive nips. just don't be touching them everyday or get obsessive, you'll know

If my nips start aching should I use AI for all the cycle duration?

 

[thefleee]

any good guides about cycling bro? Not addressing the roidheads shit, want to keep it lean, simple and clean

Could point you to a couple places in the DMs, if you want a specific cycle for a specific goal I could help there too.

 

[FutureSlayer]

Could point you to a couple places in the DMs, if you want a specific cycle for a specific goal I could help there too.

Thanks bro. I’ll take the general dms etc and ask you on here for my situation.
I’m a 6,3 feet guy, 72kgs, luckily I have good bones and frame so I don’t look scrawny but I really want to fill my forearms, legs etc. I tried bulking but that triggers my IBS pretty fast so I end up with a lot of bloating and pain and can’t eat for like 3 days.
I’ll keep my 2000/2200 calories diet and I’d like to have some sort of body recomposition, I know I will not blow up in size eating like this but unfortunately my genetics are shitty and I can’t really do much about it

 

[thefleee]

If my nips start aching should I use AI for all the cycle duration?

if they ache you want 1 ai to clear the current estrogen and 1 to block the estrogen receptors. If you get to the point where they're sensitive then your cycle dose is high enough to require it throughout the cycle. Couple ways to avoid it, several ways to stop it, and I know of 1 way to reduce the man boobs if you let it get out of hand if it hasn't been growing for months. (besides surgery)

 

[thefleee]

The cycle @SkullDynamics works for sure. I was fat as fuck 9 years ago(near 400lb) and also don't like to do bulks, so just lean gains for me to stay in that 10%-13% range. It's definitely a slower way to gain but you stay aesthetic

If it's your first cycle then you will get a lot from a straight test only run and can add in some anavar on the last 4 weeks.


test 500mg a week. My personal favorite ester is propionate. It's half life is the shortest so you need to pin every other day, some do everyday. It's effects come on the fastest but since it doesn't last long you can respond quickly to sides. It will bloat you the least of all the esters. If every other day seems to much you can do test e or c twice a week instead. AI you want to have is Exemestane or arimidex and use as needed only, otherwise you're just tanking your estrogen and will have zero sex drive.

A harder cycle is something like Skull's or a Test, mast, tren, anavar stack(what I'm on atm) which will leave you shredded as fuck but it's more advanced

 

[SteveRogers]

I'm all for being a hardcore gymcel but hitting PED's right away is fucking stupid, you don't even have to be as jacked as most body builders to get laid- literally just starve yourself until you get abs and don't ruin your hip to shoulders ratio so hit your heavy compound lifts and lateral raises

You’d think this was a given.
That being said if you want a genuine “halo”, you need to look like a fitness model. If you simply want to be attractive, yes, just abs, broad shoulders and decent calves/legs is all you need.
I simply train shoulders, push (including shoulders), pull (including shoulders) and legs + neck and masseter training every night (Neptune gum while I work too).

This is the ultimate looksmaxing gym routine.