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I know this is water but I still wanted to address it especially for people who who don't know it.
Originally most of the red and black pill communities were created not out of nothing. In the 2000s there were PUA's(Pick-up artists) who made a movement for men to pull women using "game". They sold courses and claimed after that you'd become a woman magnet. They sold fake hope to normies and sub5s that as long as they knew how to talk and present themselves properly, they'd be able to pull.
Quickly came with that movement critique. People said that PUA's were liars and selling fake hope. That was what kind of started the red pill. The idea that women are attracted to looks, money and status and that game had limited influence. The red pill claimed that you could improve yourself in that hierarchy pretty easily through working out, becoming rich, gaining status and to some degree having "game".
The red pill Anti-PUA community then split into what we know as the black pill which opposes PUA's as well as red pillers and says that looks are by far the most dominant factor and hat looks are gatekept by genetics. No gym or status game would drastically ascend you without the right genetics.
Nowadays LM and the "BP" have gotten trendy and popular but I'd argue this trend is much much closer to modern PUA's rather than the black pill.
Content Creators like K Shami, Zeta, Clavicular and Oscar Pastel sell you this belief that you can greatly change your appearance and drastically improve your SMV as long as you buy their courses and buy their products and their sponsors.
They deliberately never adress the underlying necessity for good genetic quality because selling hope makes good money. Most modern Looksmaxxers are greedy, money hungry people telling you that as long as you put "effort" into it, you would be able to make it and be Chad or HTN.
Do not trust them. They latch onto whatever hope they see within you which can be monetised.
They are the same people who would've been PUA's in the past.
Don't trust normies blindly just because they agree that looks matter. Never be gullible. Let the truth guide you
Originally most of the red and black pill communities were created not out of nothing. In the 2000s there were PUA's(Pick-up artists) who made a movement for men to pull women using "game". They sold courses and claimed after that you'd become a woman magnet. They sold fake hope to normies and sub5s that as long as they knew how to talk and present themselves properly, they'd be able to pull.
Quickly came with that movement critique. People said that PUA's were liars and selling fake hope. That was what kind of started the red pill. The idea that women are attracted to looks, money and status and that game had limited influence. The red pill claimed that you could improve yourself in that hierarchy pretty easily through working out, becoming rich, gaining status and to some degree having "game".
The red pill Anti-PUA community then split into what we know as the black pill which opposes PUA's as well as red pillers and says that looks are by far the most dominant factor and hat looks are gatekept by genetics. No gym or status game would drastically ascend you without the right genetics.
Nowadays LM and the "BP" have gotten trendy and popular but I'd argue this trend is much much closer to modern PUA's rather than the black pill.
Content Creators like K Shami, Zeta, Clavicular and Oscar Pastel sell you this belief that you can greatly change your appearance and drastically improve your SMV as long as you buy their courses and buy their products and their sponsors.
They deliberately never adress the underlying necessity for good genetic quality because selling hope makes good money. Most modern Looksmaxxers are greedy, money hungry people telling you that as long as you put "effort" into it, you would be able to make it and be Chad or HTN.
Do not trust them. They latch onto whatever hope they see within you which can be monetised.
They are the same people who would've been PUA's in the past.
Don't trust normies blindly just because they agree that looks matter. Never be gullible. Let the truth guide you
