@looksoverall height v face explanation attempt

[Deleted member 4614]

@LooksOverAll

Understanding total looks, Face vs Height - Why both manlets and ugly tallfags can exist simultaneously

This will probably be my most autistic post yet but i think it's seriously needed. tl;dr this post will mathematically explain to you how hard it is to compensate for a singular atrocious flaw It's possible for both manlets and ugly tallfags to exist simultaneously because being extremely bad...

incels.is

Thoughts?

also let me pm you

 

[Deleted member 7725]

This is cope though. Height and face are obviously not equal. Imo height doesn't matter at all, it's just a byproduct of good development. It's a case of "correlation does not equal causation". Good looking guys tend to be tall due to better bone development, hormones, and ethnicity as well. Tall guys in themselves are not inherently attractive.

 

[Deleted member 10104]

i will never be 6'10

 

[Deleted member 7725]

He didnt say they were equal, it was moreso that a failo is a much bigger negative than a halo is a positive

Not really. 6'5" normie don't slay. 6'5" normies do just as well as 5'9" normies. It's just the fact that someone who's 6'5" and considered "normie" has bigger skull, more robust bones, etc.

 

[Looks234]

This is cope though. Height and face are obviously not equal. Imo height doesn't matter at all, it's just a byproduct of good development. It's a case of "correlation does not equal causation". Good looking guys tend to be tall due to better bone development, hormones, and ethnicity as well. Tall guys in themselves are not inherently attractive.

Cope they’re equally important

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Cope they’re equally important

My bottom 5% face + top 99.9% height would mean I have the SMV of a normie. Normies aren't friendless KHHV at 22.

 

[Looks234]

My bottom 5% face + top 99.9% height would mean I have the SMV of a normie. Normies aren't friendless KHHV at 22.

volcel

 

[Deleted member 7725]

The post explains that it only does that with the arithmetic mean and using the harmonic mean would give you an SMV in the bottom 10%. In essence failos fuck you way harder than halos help you

According to what? Some incel's post on a forum? I haven't seen 2 men of the exact same face, personality, etc have different results purely off of height.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

volcel

Cope.

 

[khvirgin]

the sad truth is that @LooksOverAll will get 2393 surgeries, then get laid and will pretend like it was the surgeries and not the towering height

 

[Deleted member 7725]

As long as the guy is at least 5ft10 or in general?

In general. Guys who are < ~5'9" tend to have pathetic craniofacial and overall development. I've never seen someone 5'5" with a Henry Cavill jaw and skull. Most guys with that level of robustness are 6'0"+.

the sad truth is that @LooksOverAll will get 2393 surgeries, then get laid and will pretend like it was the surgeries and not the towering height

Cope. I'm not some basement dwelling incel. I go to college, go to afterschool clubs, talk to classmates, gym, sports, etc. I just get rejection after rejection.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Sure, but what about a 5ft7-8 guy with a chadlite face? I think the 6ft3 chadlite does significantly better, but thats my opinion.

In the interest of finding the “truth” there is 1 study that I know of supporting what you are saying strongly. I will link it and quote it in a new response.

If they have the exact same bones, face, robustness, etc then they will do exactly the same. There's no evidence that height increases your sex appeal at all. Otherwise we'd see 6'5" normie slaying, which we don't.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

This is untrue.

https://www.gertstulp.com/pdf/Stulp%20et%20al%202013_Anim%20Behav_The%20height%20of%20choosiness.pdf

It's not taking variables into account. Short guys usually have worse genes: balding, wimp skulled and framed, recessed, etc. It's like having a study of "Skull sizes and sexual choosiness" based purely on skull size and not taking the fact that bigger skulls usually have better jaws, cheekbones, etc. Correlation vs causation.

Only thing that matters is that you're taller than the girl, even that is a socially constructed standard. Same way girls on Tinder say "6'+ only". Do you really think they, without any external influence, choose to discriminate men based on them being exactly 6' or taller? It's just societal pressure that tells girls to date taller men. JBs don't date tall guys, they date guys who have attractive faces. Girls are extremely impressionable so telling them that they need tall men will change their wants. Even that doesn't matter until they're looking to actually settle with someone.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

@LooksOverAll

Contributions of the face and body to overall attractiveness

Contributions of the face and body to overall Read more about attractiveness, overall, males, component, symmetry and interaction.

www.yumpu.com

Study supporting face>>height but height still matters (a little)… face accounted for ~52% of attractiveness and body 24%

IIRC height was a small portion of the 24%-
strength was 70% of it and height was only 10%. Obviously studies aren’t perfect and height can be linked into strength, but being extremely generous height is 10% of attractiveness, following the study exactly its 2.4%. While face is 52%. The other shit besides face/physique/height is likely status, voice, etc.

That study is cope. Face is 85%, body is 15%. Nothing else matters, it's all just a byproduct of good development. You have some balls to cite a study that says face is only 52% of total attractiveness on a blackpill forum JFL.

 

[Deleted member 10104]

Cope they’re equally important

young tall jacked and handsome pill when will these morons learn

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Lol what? I think its fair to say approx 52% face, 25% body/height, 5% voice+dick+fashion, ~18% STATUS. Professional athletes, rappers etc definitely make women attracted to guys, not just trying to use them for $$.

You're extremely bluepilled. 85% face and 15% body, most of which is frame.

Professional athletes literally get child support and divorce raped all the time. They're just gold diggers JFL.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Maybe, I am not an expert. I think unpopular guys are a turn off to women though. Social proof playing a part in attractiveness is not bluepilled no?

Guys with chad faces get divorce raped? I personally think a man being adored for his athletic prowess makes a girl more attracted to him.

Im not claiming to be an authority on this I am just trying to learn more and discuss. If I was convinced that status didn’t matter I could allocate more time away from it, same with muh muscles vs face. Hence why I spend time having this discussion. If i thought status was 90% of attractiveness I would blast test and try to play a college sport. So these discussions are actually important and can effect my IRL decisions?

Correlation is not equal to causation. Popular guys are popular because they are good looking and athletes are popular because they have more dimorphism and robustness. I played a college sport and got nothing out of it, only guys who slayed were guys who would've slayed without sports.

 

[khvirgin]

In general. Guys who are < ~5'9" tend to have pathetic craniofacial and overall development. I've never seen someone 5'5" with a Henry Cavill jaw and skull. Most guys with that level of robustness are 6'0"+.

Cope. I'm not some basement dwelling incel. I go to college, go to afterschool clubs, talk to classmates, gym, sports, etc. I just get rejection after rejection.

You meet a lot of people but i WONDER if you talk to girls and how you to talk to girls
also stop being such a defeatist

 

[Deleted member 7725]

You meet a lot of people but i WONDER if you talk to girls and how you to talk to girls
also stop being such a defeatist

I'm extremely confident talking to girls and have approached at least 15 girls this semester, rejected by all. I'm not awkward whatsoever.

I also did Tinder with "6'7"" in bio and got 2 matches, both bots.

 

[Deleted member 756]

He’s lying
He’s 5’8 and Indian and Russian

 

[Deleted member 8853]

Not really. 6'5" normie don't slay. 6'5" normies do just as well as 5'9" normies. It's just the fact that someone who's 6'5" and considered "normie" has bigger skull, more robust bones, etc.

I'm 6 feet and have the maxilla of a 14 yr old

 

[Deleted member 7725]

I'm 6 feet and have the maxilla of a 14 yr old

No you don't. We're the same age and you look like you could be my dad JFL. You look masc af.

 

[Deleted member 8853]

No you don't. We're the same age and you look like you could be my dad JFL. You look masc af.

High dht gave me Norwood since 13

 

[Uglybrazilian]

Height literally does not matter outside of the US

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Height literally does not matter outside of the US

Exactly, finding height attractive, especially a set number like "6 foot and above", is just a result of social pressure.