Loox new vid about peptides is great, what ive been saying for ages

[Whirr22222]

Peptides are overrated. Even can be described as shit when u compare them to their price points compared to other compounds designed for the same thing. e.g Accutane, Test, etc...

Ive been saying this shit for ages, but I see why people have fallen for them.
I know people have made threads on this before, but as someone that people worship in the LM space its good loox has made this vid

Except of course for the obvious which are self explanatory: Reta, MT2, HGH - which seems to be the only actual peptide people overlook for some strange reason

I feel bad that theres 1000s of kids out there who seem to think GH secretagogues & GHK will "ascend" them
Mostly due to fault of certain retards on tiktok promoting it like these 2 aspies jfl:

@androgenic

 

[almostAverage]

Based

 

[glansior]

Mostly due to fault of certain retards on tiktok

i genuinely feel bad for every person that fell for tips from squinting and pouting niggers like hullo

 

[cursedpaki19]

isnt this what everyone on .org has been saying?

 

[Whirr22222]

isnt this what everyone on .org has been saying?

Some, not enough. Still seems to be the consensus on tiktok that its the "method" to "ascend".

 

[Whirr22222]

i genuinely feel bad for every person that fell for tips from squinting and pouting niggers like hullo

Yeah theres literally people out there who have wasted $100s if not $1000s on bullshit peptides, when they could have just done a course of Accutane and 500 test...

 

[cursedpaki19]

Some, not enough. Still seems to be the consensus on tiktok that its the "method" to "ascend".

yeah peptides are overhyped due to being popular, but they still work even tho they are overrated

 

[ybuyhgui]

sends a strong wave of cringe down my body every time I read people saying to 'blast peptides' as a means of ascension

 

[Whirr22222]

yeah peptides are overhyped due to being popular, but they still work even tho they are overrated

Which ones except what I mentioned do u think work as good as known alternatives?

 

[Whirr22222]

sends a strong wave of cringe down my body every time I read people saying to 'blast peptides' as a means of ascension

"Nah bro trust me IGF1-LR3 will ascend me to chad" (even tho bodybuilders dont use it cos its shit)

 

[almostAverage]

Opposite of k shamis vid playing into the peptide hype

 

[Sujumh]

cjc + ipam + ND stare + JAMES SAPPHIRE + BP

 

[Whirr22222]

Opposite of k shamis vid playing into the peptide hype

Surprise surprise the guy who got undereye fat graft and chin implant and claimed no surgery is spouting nonsense

 

[chadisbeingmade]

“blast peptides and ascend” isn’t wrong at all, just depends on which.

90% of looksmaxing facially is getting to 8-10% bodyfat. GLP1a and amylin analog are the single best thing you can use to achieve that and aren’t overrated at all. It makes reaching ideal facial leanness a matter of when, not if.

(I didn’t watch the vid so I have no idea what he actually said)

 

[Whirr22222]

“blast peptides and ascend” isn’t wrong at all, just depends on which.

90% of looksmaxing facially (the thing that matters most) is getting to 8-10% bodyfat. GLP1a and amylin analog are the single best thing you can use to achieve that and aren’t overrated at all. It makes reaching ideal facial leanness a matter of when, not if.

(I didn’t watch the vid so I have no idea what he actually said)

True, I mentioned GLP1s as a self explanatory exception, but it also doesnt go past whats already naturally possible - (coming from someone who uses reta)

 

[chadisbeingmade]

True, I mentioned GLP1s as a self explanatory exception, but it also doesnt go past whats already naturally possible - (coming from someone who uses reta)

You can get to 8-10% naturally for sure, but the number of people that will actually have the willpower, dedication and will stay in a continuous prolonged deficit on low cals without fuck ups to achieve that is not many at all. Reta, Cag etc open a new world in what is realistically possible for normal people to achieve without machine like discipline.

 

[twilight]

never feel bad for tiktok zoomer faggots (that don't understand the blackpill or lookism at all beyond surface level normie humour) getting duped by peptide shills into buying chinese rat piss

 

[imontheloose]

“blast peptides and ascend” isn’t wrong at all, just depends on which.

90% of looksmaxing facially is getting to 8-10% bodyfat. GLP1a and amylin analog are the single best thing you can use to achieve that and aren’t overrated at all. It makes reaching ideal facial leanness a matter of when, not if.

(I didn’t watch the vid so I have no idea what he actually said)

TITANIUM/PEEK DRILLED INTO YOUR SKULL. YUM.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

TITANIUM/PEEK DRILLED INTO YOUR SKULL. YUM.

That’s the next step after you achieve 8-10% and realise you a boneless subhuman with no hollows.

 

[imontheloose]

That’s the best step after you achieve 8-10% and realise you a boneless subhuman with no hollows.

I've got stubborn facial pads. Quite annoying, but doesn't matter an awful lot. Will get deathly lean.

 

[Whirr22222]

Fuck paying extra for titanium over PEEK tho fr

TITANIUM/PEEK DRILLED INTO YOUR SKULL. YUM.

 

[ikramy]

I've got stubborn facial pads. Quite annoying, but doesn't matter an awful lot. Will get deathly lean.

Hollows are a joke they don’t appear unless it’s in a certain lighting

 

[imontheloose]

Hollows are a joke they don’t appear unless it’s in a certain lighting

Well obviously, that's what hollows are. Doesn't change the fact the pads themselves are stubborn.

 

[ikramy]

Well obviously, that's what hollows are. Doesn't change the fact the pads themselves are stubborn.

I don’t think you got what i meant

 

[Norlam]

I just heard that hgh isn’t worth it past 18, I’m 21 and looking at CJC no DAC + IPA. But if it’s not even worth it then i’m better off getting on HGH.

 

[imontheloose]

I don’t think you got what i meant

Chuddha is all-knowing. How dare you blaspheme his glory and might! I shall cast a spell against you for this remark.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Hollows are a joke they don’t appear unless it’s in a certain lighting

Meh at ideal bf % I had them in practically any lighting I was in. Obviously much more in certain light than others but they were always visible.

I just heard that hgh isn’t worth it past 18, I’m 21 and looking at CJC no DAC + IPA. But if it’s not even worth it then i’m better off getting on HGH.

HGH is worth it if you are pushing gear.

 

[Whirr22222]

I just heard that hgh isn’t worth it past 18, I’m 21 and looking at CJC no DAC + IPA. But if it’s not even worth it then i’m better off getting on HGH.

Did ya read the thread mate?

Run HGH if ur building a physique, and run CJC if u want to transport the money from ur bank account into a peptide suppliers pockets as fast as possible and get 0 benefit...

 

[ikramy]

Meh at ideal bf % I had them in practically any lighting I was in. Obviously much more in certain light than others but they were always visible.


HGH is worth it if you are pushing gear.

Yah I get what you mean by “ ideal” I only got what you described when I was stage ready in a body building competition definitely not maintainable for me tho

 

[4eyes]

I just heard that hgh isn’t worth it past 18, I’m 21 and looking at CJC no DAC + IPA. But if it’s not even worth it then i’m better off getting on HGH.

if you are 21, any odds of getting taller is about zero. don't waste funds

 

[gymceltard]

Steroids are retarded.

None of your ancestors used steroids

It's unnatural dogshit that ruins your organs.

Take the goatis pill and retvrn to nature

 

[Whirr22222]

Steroids are retarded.

None of your ancestors used steroids

It's unnatural dogshit that ruins your organs.

Take the goatis pill and retvrn to nature

U will rot until u turn into ur pfp if u keep coping like this. Goatis ex literally said he used gear also pahaha

 

[gymceltard]

U will rot until u turn into ur pfp if u keep coping like this. Goatis ex literally said he used gear also pahaha

I would be honored to turn into saint ER. Imagine thinking that's an insult to compare me to the greatest hapa male to ever live.

Also goatis doesn't use steroids and he clowns on niggas who roidcel and ruin their organs.

 

[7evenvox22]

yeah 100% agree with that take most peptides are just glorified placebos with fancy names and poor bioavailability. the only ones that consistently deliver results are GH (actual recombinant somatropin), MT2, and maybe a couple cosmetic ones like GHK-Cu or BPC if you’re injured. everything else like CJC/Ipam/Hex, etc., just gives mild GH pulses and costs as much as real pharma-grade GH long-term. people get baited by the "safer, cheaper, legal" marketing but end up wasting hundreds for marginal effects. and yeah loox is right once you compare actual returns vs cost, test, accutane, fin, or GH itself mog every peptide stack. only exception would be something like retatrutide or tirzepatide if you’re doing fat loss, but that’s pharma-tier too, not "research peptide" cope.

 

[stufftodo]

gh secretagogues arent that bad if you can lower somastatin and increase insulin sensitivity

the main reason why is because natural signaling is just way better than continuous signaling, which is what you'd get from exogenous hgh.

one of the important signaling pathways for actual anabolic growth is the JAK2–STAT5 cascade which gets downregulated/desensitized by exogenous hgh

continuous gh also upregulates metabolic/feedback genes that inhibit gh signaling (e.g socs1, socs3) instead of anabolic genes, which get upregulated by pulstile gh (e.g igf1, socs2, cish, als, ghbp)

also, exogenous gh mainly raises circulation in the liver, and not the bones and tissues where you need the growth. then there is the factor of timing; pulsatile signaling mostly happens when you are most relaxed, with the least amount of cortisol, insulin, somastatin, and highest ghrh activity, meaning each pulse happens in an environment favoring liploysis and protein synthesis rather than glucose, etc.

the important thing is that the gh circulates to your tissues/bones instead of hepatically (your liver). and i'm not saying exogenous gh is bad, it's just many people take it thinking it's more effective, which in a lot of cases it may be not.

imo secretagogues + supplementing is far more convenient than the things you'd have to do otherwise because you're letting your body do all the work.

if you were to inject hgh, you need to first be in that optimal environment of low cortisol, insulin, etc and then somehow load heavy mechanical stress on the proximal femur, distal femur, pelvis, spine, tibia, mandible, scapula, wrists, shoulder joints, foot arches, rib cage, and all the gh-synergistic tissues while maintaining low cortisol, to actually promote proper growth.

hgh again, isn't a bad peptide at all but i'd argue secretagogues are better.

references:

Frost HM, Anat Rec (1987) -> "Mechanostat theory"

Jaffe et al. (1998, Endocrine Reviews)

Isaksson et al. (1985, Acta Physiol Scand)

Isgaard et al., Am J Physiol (1985)

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sorry for bad writing, got lazy. i got other refs as well, i'll find them if u guys want

 

[Whirr22222]

gh secretagogues arent that bad if you can lower somastatin and increase insulin sensitivity

the main reason why is because natural signaling is just way better than continuous signaling, which is what you'd get from exogenous hgh.

one of the important signaling pathways for actual anabolic growth is the JAK2–STAT5 cascade which gets downregulated/desensitized by exogenous hgh

continuous gh also upregulates metabolic/feedback genes that inhibit gh signaling (e.g socs1, socs3) instead of anabolic genes, which get upregulated by pulstile gh (e.g igf1, socs2, cish, als, ghbp)

also, exogenous gh mainly raises circulation in the liver, and not the bones and tissues where you need the growth. then there is the factor of timing; pulsatile signaling mostly happens when you are most relaxed, with the least amount of cortisol, insulin, somastatin, and highest ghrh activity, meaning each pulse happens in an environment favoring liploysis and protein synthesis rather than glucose, etc.

the important thing is that the gh circulates to your tissues/bones instead of hepatically (your liver). and i'm not saying exogenous gh is bad, it's just many people take it thinking it's more effective, which in a lot of cases it may be not.

imo secretagogues + supplementing is far more convenient than the things you'd have to do otherwise because you're letting your body do all the work.

if you were to inject hgh, you need to first be in that optimal environment of low cortisol, insulin, etc and then somehow load heavy mechanical stress on the proximal femur, distal femur, pelvis, spine, tibia, mandible, scapula, wrists, shoulder joints, foot arches, rib cage, and all the gh-synergistic tissues while maintaining low cortisol, to actually promote proper growth.

hgh of course, isn't a bad peptide at all but i'd argue secretagogues are better.

references:

Frost HM, Anat Rec (1987) -> "Mechanostat theory"

Jaffe et al. (1998, Endocrine Reviews)

Isaksson et al. (1985, Acta Physiol Scand)

Isgaard et al., Am J Physiol (1985)

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sorry for bad writing, got lazy. i got other refs as well, i'll find them if u guys want

Cheers ChatGPT, if they are so good why don’t body builders use them over varying doses of GH?

 

[stufftodo]

Cheers ChatGPT, if they are so good why don’t body builders use them?

because secretagogues don't fit their goals. exogenous still has higher potency for hypertrophy and fat loss

i think pralmorelin, which is super duper secretagogue, only got about 2/3 of the igf1 levels from exogenous gh at the same hormonal activity. i can find it if you want

 

[Whirr22222]

because secretagogues don't fit their goals. exogenous still has higher potency for hypertrophy and fat loss

Anabolism via IGF1 increase would be the same goal for bone growth copers and bodybuilders. Secretagogues are inferior for that over even moderate doses of HGH.

 

[stufftodo]

Anabolism via IGF1 increase would be the same goal for bone growth copers and bodybuilders. Secretagogues are inferior for that over even moderate doses of HGH.

i think pralmorelin, which is super duper secretagogue, only got about 2/3 of the igf1 levels from exogenous gh at the same hormonal activity. i can find it if you want

^ i agree with that

however, the igf1 increase are different in secretagogues and gh. exogenous is mostly hepatic, which i said before, but secretagogues are autocrineal.

hgh in bodybuilding makes you leaner and tighter, not really massively muscular. it's great for them though because it synergizes with anabolics like test that builds tissue for them. not to say that secretagogues do any better in hypertropthy

it's kinda hard to explain, but exogenous gh is like metabolic anabolism, but we need developmental anabolism if that makes sense. there's a lot of missignaling too with the mtor pathways which bodybuilders wouldn't mind as well. so in the end they're different goals.

basically the most important thing is that signaling happens in bones/tissues, not in the liver