low-dose steroid users

[joao2005]

When I say people who use low doses, in the context of 200 to 300mg per week, because for people with limited financial resources it's not worth abusing them, right?

I'd like to know what harm reduction measures you also use at these low doses. Is HCG mandatory? Statins, etc

what should a low-dose user be concerned about and use?

And also, how much do you spend per month in total, including steroids and compounded medications?


I live in Brazil. Here, the minimum wage is around 400 dollars. Unfortunately, here we have to be very careful with money, with what we spend, helping our parents at home, dealing with unexpected expenses, etc., especially for a young person like me who is paying for my studies and technical carpentry courses.

 

[vampi]

basicly just the same, and most low dose users have no problem with money, they are scared by the side effects. even though its highly doubted it even matters.

 

[m0ss26]

When I say people who use low doses, in the context of 200 to 300mg per week, because for people with limited financial resources it's not worth abusing them, right?

Buddy a gram of test costs like 7$ we can’t be serious

And dut isn’t that expensive either

 

[m0ss26]

Low dose is retarded unless ur doing something like tren, then it makes sense because you can reap the benefits at minuscule doses

If ur just doing test why would you want to do 200mg a week might as well stay natty literally worthless

 

[joao2005]

basicly just the same, and most low dose users have no problem with money, they are scared by the side effects. even though its highly doubted it even matters.

I live in Brazil, brother. Here, the minimum wage is around 400 dollars. Unfortunately, here we have to be very careful with money, with what we spend, helping our parents at home, dealing with unexpected expenses, etc., especially for a young person like me who is paying for my studies and technical carpentry courses.

 

[joao2005]

Low dose is retarded unless ur doing something like tren, then it makes sense because you can reap the benefits at minuscule doses

If ur just doing test why would you want to do 200mg a week might as well stay natty literally worthle

Buddy a gram of test costs like 7$ we can’t be serious

And dut isn’t that expensive either

I'm going to update my post because I don't live in the USA, I live in a developing country.

 

[unon]

When I say people who use low doses, in the context of 200 to 300mg per week, because for people with limited financial resources it's not worth abusing them, right?

I'd like to know what harm reduction measures you also use at these low doses. Is HCG mandatory? Statins, etc

what should a low-dose user be concerned about and use?

HCG is not mandatory it's just helps pct easier and doesn't make your balls shrink


For like ai it's cheap so you don't need to worry.

Pct just need 1 Vails of HCG 5000 iu. and enclimaphine.

But in all fairness testosterone is cheap asf

Running this cycle should be less that 100 dollars monthly

 

[joao2005]

Low dose is retarded unless ur doing something like tren, then it makes sense because you can reap the benefits at minuscule doses

If ur just doing test why would you want to do 200mg a week might as well stay natty literally worthless

I think the main benefits are psychological, considering we live in a shitty society where we work more and more. Going from 500mg of natural testosterone to between 900 and 1200mg makes a big difference in energy levels. There's also the issue of potential harm. I don't know much about steroids, I'm still studying them, hence the post, but I see many doctors saying that the higher the dose, the greater the side effects in the future. And recently here in Brazil, there was a case of two influential figures in the steroid world who had heart attacks at age 30; one is still alive, the other is gone.

 

[joao2005]

HCG is not mandatory it's just helps pct easier and doesn't make your balls shrink


For like ai it's cheap so you don't need to worry.

Pct just need 1 Vails of HCG 5000 iu. and enclimaphine.

But in all fairness testosterone is cheap asf

Running this cycle should be less that 100 dollars monthly

Probably when I start using it (I'm still studying and thinking about it) it will be for life without post-cycle therapy (PCT). I'm talking about HCG more because of my testicles; I'm afraid they'll shrink with testosterone use.

 

[m0ss26]

I think the main benefits are psychological, considering we live in a shitty society where we work more and more. Going from 500mg of natural testosterone to between 900 and 1200mg makes a big difference in energy levels. There's also the issue of potential harm. I don't know much about steroids, I'm still studying them, hence the post, but I see many doctors saying that the higher the dose, the greater the side effects in the future. And recently here in Brazil, there was a case of two influential figures in the steroid world who had heart attacks at age 30; one is still alive, the other is gone.

If ur natural T is 500 you have weak genes or ur like 50 years old

Also based on what ur typing ur NGMI, ur talking like a typical normie cuck who has 0 idea about pharmacology or how steroids are used in general

“oh this guy who we have no idea about his genetic predispositions or his lifestyle was blasting gear like a retard with no regard for his health and got a heart attack” what does that tell us about someone like me or you using gear? Absolutely jack shit so I don’t even know why ur bringing it up

 

[joao2005]

If ur natural T is 500 you have weak genes or ur like 50 years old

Also based on what ur typing ur NGMI, ur talking like a typical normie cuck who has 0 idea about pharmacology or how steroids are used in general

“oh this guy who we have no idea about his genetic predispositions or his lifestyle was blasting gear like a retard with no regard for his health and got a heart attack” what does that tell us about someone like me or you using gear? Absolutely jack shit so I don’t even know why ur bringing it up

Yes, I'm really ignorant when it comes to pharmacology and steroids. I'm just starting to research it now, hence the post. And about the guy who died, honestly, having a heart attack at 30 years old doesn't seem normal to me. And I don't know if you could even consider that guy abusing drugs; at the time he showed his cycle, which involved about 1,700mg of steroids. Regarding natural testosterone, I don't know if I have 500 yet, I haven't done the testosterone test, but you can be sure that here in Brazil, a young person who sleeps about 4 to 5 hours a night, works and studies, their testosterone probably isn't that high.



And let me ask you, what should a steroid user be primarily concerned about? Let's talk about a guy who uses at least 500mg of testosterone, what are the typical preventable side effects?

 

[m0ss26]

And let me ask you, what should a steroid user be primarily concerned about? Let's talk about a guy who uses at least 500mg of testosterone, what are the typical preventable side effects?

500 is a good point to start and stay it when ur cycling on and off (or blasting and cruising)

Usually just watch out for high estrogenic affects (if you start developing gyno have an aromatase inhibitor on hand, otherwise you don’t NEED to use it)

For hair loss and skin just use dutasteride

If bloat is a SUPER big issue for you, use eplerenone

Your cholesterol and blood pressure might get a little elevated but if you live a solid lifestyle and adjust doses accordingly you will be fine

Me personally i dont use an AI because i dont araomatize heavily and i dont use Hcg because i dont care about my ball size in the current moment (no gf or anything) and i blast and cruise

To me, test and dutasteride is all you need and if the sides are a little too much at 500, drop to 400

 

[flows5991]

because for people with limited financial resource

test is dirt cheap gh is 0,5$-1.50$/iu. Gear is not expensive you are broke

 

[joao2005]

500 é um bom ponto de partida e deve ser mantido nessa faixa quando você estiver alternando entre aceleração e desaceleração (ou acelerando e mantendo velocidade constante).

Geralmente, basta ter cuidado com os altos efeitos estrogênicos (se você começar a desenvolver ginecomastia, tenha um inibidor de aromatase à mão; caso contrário, você NÃO PRECISA usá-lo).

Para queda de cabelo e problemas de pele, use dutasterida.

Se o inchaço for um problema MUITO grande para você, use eplerenona.

Seus níveis de colesterol e pressão arterial podem aumentar um pouco, mas se você mantiver um estilo de vida saudável e ajustar as doses de acordo, tudo ficará bem.

Pessoalmente, não uso IA porque não tenho muita aromatização e não uso HCG porque não me importo com o tamanho dos meus testículos no momento (não tenho namorada nem nada) e prefiro ter ciclos curtos e longos.

Na minha opinião, testosterona e dutasterida são tudo o que você precisa, e se os efeitos colaterais forem muito fortes com 500 mg, reduza para 400 mg.

But do you think blast and cruise cycles are necessary? I mean, a guy who wants to get a beach physique and stay between 8 and 10% body fat with a body ffmi of 22 to 24, using only 300 to 500mg for life, wouldn't that be fine? And about skin, is it okay, for example, to use isotretinoin at the same time as testosterone?

 

[gymcelld]

Buddy a gram of test costs like 7$ we can’t be serious

And dut isn’t that expensive either

Some guy on this site got his test for like £100 a vail

 

[m0ss26]

But do you think blast and cruise cycles are necessary? I mean, a guy who wants to get a beach physique and stay between 8 and 10% body fat with a body ffmi of 22 to 24, using only 300 to 500mg for life, wouldn't that be fine? And about skin, is it okay, for example, to use isotretinoin at the same time as testosterone?

You can come off for sure, i just don’t recommend it

But even if you do a gram of test for a year, once you come off your endocrine system WILL recover, it’s not a matter of if it’s a matter of when. You can choose whether you want to do a couple blasts and cruise or you can come off each time, of course a lot of your gains are lost when you come off

Also yes, using isotret is a great idea in general and especially on test


Also by blast and cruise I specifically mean doing (relatively) higher dosages for a period of time then dropping down to a purely replacement dose (100-150mg/week) for an extended period of time and repeating

 

[joao2005]

You can come off for sure, i just don’t recommend it

But even if you do a gram of test for a year, once you come off your endocrine system WILL recover, it’s not a matter of if it’s a matter of when. You can choose whether you want to do a couple blasts and cruise or you can come off each time, of course a lot of your gains are lost when you come off

Also yes, using isotret is a great idea in general and especially on test

So, is it true that if you use steroids for a long time and in high doses, you'll never be able to recover your normal hormonal balance?

Or is it not true what I've heard people say, that if I had 800mg of natural testosterone and I start using steroids, if I ever stop, I'll recover at most 50% of that

This is typically what I see many doctors and some mainstream influencers saying.

 

[m0ss26]

So, is it true that if you use steroids for a long time and in high doses, you'll never be able to recover your normal hormonal balance?

Or is it not true what I've heard people say, that if I had 800mg of natural testosterone and I start using steroids, if I ever stop, I'll recover at most 50% of that

This is typically what I see many doctors and some mainstream influencers saying.

Those influencers are wrong, for one it varies heavily person to person

but in all the studies of people that used anabolic and came off, there was always recovery of their HPTA

Now of course if you blast for 10 years straight for example you will likely need years to restart your natural production and it will likely never be the same, however if you do maybe a few moderate cycles your testosterone production will guaranteed recover and it will likely eventually be close to what you originally had naturally, just a matter of time

 

[joao2005]

Those influencers are wrong, for one it varies heavily person to person

but in all the studies of people that used anabolic and came off, there was always recovery of their HPTA

Now of course if you blast for 10 years straight for example you will likely need years to restart your natural production and it will likely never be the same, however if you do maybe a few moderate cycles your testosterone production will guaranteed recover and it will likely eventually be close to what you originally had naturally, just a matter of time

I understand, so you're in favor of cycles instead of using testosterone continuously? When I say cycle in blast and cruise, I mean using steroids for a while and then doing post-cycle therapy (PCT), and so on.

 

[gruzz]

i dont think low dose users need hcg tbh

 

[m0ss26]

I understand, so you're in favor of cycles instead of using testosterone continuously? When I say cycle in blast and cruise, I mean using steroids for a while and then doing post-cycle therapy (PCT), and so on.

No brother, blast and cruising is using testosterone continuously, which i am in favor of

It means using high doses of it for a while then dropping to a replacement dose and repeating

“cycling” means using it then coming off completely and usually doing some kind of post cycle therapy