I am not too sure about this. I guess it's both. Low hyoid bone is correlated with poor forward growth and stunted maxillo-mandibular development in the vertical modality. So your jaws could have good forward projection, but you could have shit hyoid due to vertically short jaws. You can also have adequate maxilla/mandible projection and height and have shit hyoid regardless. Every case is different tbh.
Why tf is your name birdcel? You are not a birdcel dude.
You know , I asked this question because I noticed some people having rather long mandibles with good gonial angle , but still low set hyoid , that's why I asked. Thx for input G
People claim mewing strengthens the muscles connecting the hyoid bone to the jaw, which raises it and improves the appearance of your submental region. IDK though.
Hahaha , I always found the term "Birdcel" to be the epitome of PSL language and culture , and very funny.at the same time
, that's why
Yes , I've read many similar stories on Reddit
I unironically am a birdcel due to nasal hump and trash lower third.Hahaha , I always found the term "Birdcel" epitome of PSL language and culture , and very funny.at the same time
Luckily for.you , you are more or less informed about the anatomy of the skull and the different surgeons. You probably want some CW rotation + sliding genioplasty , is this your plan ?
Not that informed boyo. Gonna get vertical lengthening genio+rhino instead. Jaw surgery is not practical for me.
@one job away and @LooksOverAll know a lot more about this than I do as they are both gonna get bimax.
@one job away I know he's a smart guy. Didn't have much contact with the later one. Bro how much mm are you doing ?
6-8 mm vertical and 3 mm or so forward.
Mewing definitely improves your submental pretty much immediately. IDK if you have to keep doing this or if it will become permanent after a while. You should mew anyway though.
Yes. High IQ chadlite.
I asked myslef the same question , it would be very nice.if it could improve it permanently. I unironically believe that there might be some problems going on with the weaknes of the hyoid muscles instead
Hey do you know about the workout for hyoid tightening? There is an actual study on this. I thought everyone knew this. Its in detail along with some other methods in a thread here. Just search
And tbh a very important one , since the rather weak side profile might make one depressed thinking that he's recessed , when in reality he needs to improve his oral posture and lose submental fat
i have good frontal but since recessed maxillacel plus hanginghyoidcel, sides look kinda shit ngl expecially when kinda chubby
Yes , there are actually some techniques , this for example https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5784581/#!po=34.5238
Yeah it does temporarily. Talking about permanance here.
nothing a kitchen knife can't solve
It's not a widely acknowledged belief , but maybe John Mew , might be correct when he means that by subtle power of the tongue , you can overtime move the maxila forward. But I believe there was no scientific study to back this up , but why not give it a try ?
this is the study i was talking ahout.
Anecdote: i have a long mandible and okay forward growth, kinda recessed where cheekbones arent prominent and have a neutral vectot. But ive aleays mouth breathed and sont mew naturally or push swallow or any of that shit ever and i have the whole down cycle of hyoid hangfrom that possibly. Im thinking if someone were to have mewed and kept their mouth shot theyd have strengthened the hyoid muscke to the point of permeant engagement like how the tongue is engaged always in healthy development. So mewing sjould make this permanent as long as you’re consistent (for like ages)
Femboycel mogsHahaha , I always found the term "Birdcel" to be the epitome of PSL language and culture , and very funny.at the same time
There is scientifc basis for this. The only reason people dont get results is because you have be really consistent for so long, not only mewing. But after piberty, youre gonna have to chintuck mew for a fee hours minimum everyday to get results. Imagine you did it religiously for 6 months and relapsed so to soeak because of work or juts plain got tired, you would lose those gains and be stating again. Because the body wants to be in stasis and returns to orginial state. But if yoid deducate yourself like sallodns routine im a 100% sure youll have insane changes. At that point lmx becomes a fucking job.
Your body has to reach a state where the nee normal becomes this mewing state and you mentally accept subconsciously that this is good fir you and is not hard shit. This point woild be when yoire having obvious results like better symmetry, breahing, sleep, forward growth, downstream effects, narrowing of eyes. People say salludons permasquinting. Yeah true, thats atually his normal and hes not squinting squinting. Hes jukst that way now.
Here an excerpt from a study. If you can keep the tongue elevated , aka on the roof of your mouth , maybe the hyoid muscles could adapt to this and stay like so in permanent state , but unfortunately this is just speculation
True , we need to fraud , so that one day it eventually becomes part of us
Hmm its alot of work. There can be no proof pf concept because people have to actually do it. There cant be subjects, atleast yet. The people who are doing arent gonna be taking befire after xrays and shit. I know there’s an official mewin app that record pics and progress, but id say if youre in 12-20 just fucking chinktuck mew and the earlier in this spectrum, youll have insane results.
Chevk mewing reddit for insane results in teens. And expectedly slower and minor changes in adults. Some people are delusional and angle fraud , for what fucking reason idk. But there are some people with real results .
Tbh for us brokecels ,.this is currently the only way and hope to improve bone structure
Honestly this should be the way. Bro; i can only imagine is someone does this and changes their face in teenage, their mental frame would change so much, other hard shit in life would look so easy.
I respect surgerymaxxers too. Its all work. Most people just dont improve because the amount of work that goes into this
Hmmm , twin studies are actually very interesting , I'm going to watch it in youtbe now
the way bonesmashing works too.
AwesomeHmmm , twin studies are actually very interesting , I'm going to watch it in youtbe now
@AsGoodAsItGets , hahaha it seems that the other doctors don't like the mew family
The thread in BOTB? JFL at that half-assed garbage thread, I am gonna drop a much better thread about the hyoid bone in the future.
Yes do it
The submental area is a very important part of side profile aesthetics
Pu tit out
