Low IQ claims about IOIs.

[Wallenberg]

I have noticed two common claims about IOIs here, both of which are false, and indicate that the person expressing those claims isn't reincarnated Einstein.

1. "A girl did this to me but she wasn't into me so it's not IOI, that's cope!!"

No. Just because you notice a girl doing one single IOI doesn't mean she is into you. In your case, it probably wasn't IOI. It doesn't mean it's not IOI. You have to notice a bunch of different IOIs to interpret that the girl is into you.

2. "Girls don't behave that way, they do this instead!!"

No. Girls behave in a multitude of different ways. For example, some girls are outgoing and will approach the guy they like. Some girls are shy and won't approach, they might do the opposite and avoid the guy. And some girls change when they become attracted: extroverted girls might become shy, etc.

 

[Adriana Lima]

Wally spitting facts

 

[Growth Plate]

High IQ claim about this thread.

Spoiler: claim

dnrd

 

[Deleted member 245]

All I know is P in V is the only IOI.

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

Agree
Dont try to read womens behaviour. They're not black and white about it, they might be giving ioi, flirting with no real interest, proving they can bait a guy to friends. It's hard to interpret just approach and find out. If they find you attractive enough they will approach or make it obvious in some other way(touching, sexual talk etc).

 

[Deleted member 5189]

All I know is P in V is the only IOI.

 

[Wallenberg]

Agree
Dont try to read womens behaviour. They're not black and white about it, they might be giving ioi, flirting with no real interest, proving they can bait a guy to friends. It's hard to interpret just approach and find out. If they find you attractive they will approach or make it obvious in some other way.

Make it obvious in some other ways = via IOIs.

If a girl is into you and you aren't a total aspie, you don't have to "try" to read women's behavior. You notice it naturally. Just like you don't have to try to read the text if you are literate, you read automatically.

 

[Deleted member 12002]

All I know is P in V is the only IOI.

Well, there's a lot of interpretation that you gotta get through before you get to that point.

 

[Deleted member 11748]

All I know is P in V is the only IOI.

 

[Deleted member 5185]

Generally speaking, generalizations can be useful to convey an overall message - i.e something that is "generally true". The issue is obviously that this is almost always inprecise to a certain degree. The usefulness of generalizations falls as its correctness approaches 50% & below, at which point it is useless.

For instance, lets say I make the following generalization:

"All women are left leaning"

This is probably about true in 70%+ of instances, and it holds somewhat true, however if lets say 30% of women are right leaning or apolitical, then it will be untrue in a lot of circumstances. The generalization can be useful, but not particularly useful.

If I say, for instance:

"Basketball players are tall" (arbitrary definition of tall being say 6ft1+)

Then that is (pardon my lack of knowledgement of basket) likely to be true in more than 70% of the case, maybe approaching 90%. This generalization is certaintly useful and while not strictly true, we can generally say that basketball players are tall.

Now how does all this relate to the thread? Well my point is simply that especially when we are talking about how women behave, we need to make sure that our statements has as high "truth percentage score" as possible - if we have observed something we believe to be generally true, we can say with certainty that it is almost never 100% true. But if it has a high percentage, it can be useful. If we don't know or suspect it is only true in SOME cases, saying "girls do this not this" is useless and misleading. To add on to that, I feel a lot of users choose to simply make up things at the spot to prove a point, which can make it challenging to have a fruitful discussion on any topic regarding women.

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

Generally speaking, generalizations can be useful to convey an overall message - i.e something that is "generally true". The issue is obviously that this is almost always inprecise to a certain degree. The usefulness of generalizations falls as its correctness approaches 50% & below, at which point it is useless.

For instance, lets say I make the following generalization:

"All women are left leaning"

This is probably about true in 70%+ of instances, and it holds somewhat true, however if lets say 30% of women are right leaning or apolitical, then it will be untrue in a lot of circumstances. The generalization can be useful, but not particularly useful.

If I say, for instance:

"Basketball players are tall" (arbitrary definition of tall being say 6ft1+)

Then that is (pardon my lack of knowledgement of basket) likely to be true in more than 70% of the case, maybe approaching 90%. This generalization is certaintly useful and while not strictly true, we can generally say that basketball players are tall.

Now how does all this relate to the thread? Well my point is simply that especially when we are talking about how women behave, we need to make sure that our statements has as high "truth percentage score" as possible - if we have observed something we believe to be generally true, we can say with certainty that it is almost never 100% true. But if it has a high percentage, it can be useful. If we don't know or suspect it is only true in SOME cases, saying "girls do this not this" is useless and misleading. To add on to that, I feel a lot of users choose to simply make up things at the spot to prove a point, which can make it challenging to have a fruitful discussion on any topic regarding women.

Wikipedia.org

 

[Wallenberg]

To add on to that, I feel a lot of users choose to simply make up things at the spot to prove a point, which can make it challenging to have a fruitful discussion on any topic regarding women.

Also, some users are very young. Their brains are still developing. They see things in black and white. They cant understand nuances. They lack life experience.

 

[fukmylyf]

lol what do you expect from people with asperger's? It's literally in the definition of the disorder. They can't identify basic social cues, much less complex ones like IOIs. It usually stems from jealousy as well. They don't get any positive feedback irl, so they try to minimize it when other people do. Trust your instincts and ignore the bitter faggots here

 

[turkproducer]

it’s so brutal to miss blatant IOIs especially if you don’t get them often

High inhib = CUCK

 

[Deleted member 245]

Usual suspects coping ITT




Stay mad you fucking faggots

 

[Wallenberg]

Usual suspects coping ITT

Stay mad you fucking faggots

What are you trying to say?

That every girl will approach the guy they like and directly tell him that they like him?

If that's what you are trying to say, then you clearly lack life experience.

 

[Deleted member 245]

What are you trying to say?

That every girl will approach the guy they like and directly tell him that they like him?

If that's what you are trying to say, then you clearly lack life experience.

Just trying to put copers in their place

 

[Wallenberg]

Just trying to put copers in their place

Who is coping and how?

 

[Deleted member 5185]

Usual suspects coping ITT




Stay mad you fucking faggots

This just isn't the case though.

Girls are high inhib AF. Obviously the better looking you are, the higher are the chances a girl will approach you, however even when around girls who are interested in you and clearly makes it known, the chances of her actually making a direct move like asking you out or asking you for her number is rare.

As an example, my current GF saw me at the gym for a long time before we met through tinder. I am 6'4 going autism ogre mode in the gym, and she has told me that she was scared af of me, but turned on. She could never imagine approaching me. Similarly, you could be going to the gym and getting a shitton of IOIs from girl, but if you're not responding to them correctly by appearing open and approachable, they aren't going to do it. Unless they first get signs from YOU that you will accept them, it is very unlikely they will just make an approach.

 

[Deleted member 11053]

Sometimes you can tell with just one single ioi tho

 

[Deleted member 11053]

Some iois mean more than others

 

[Wallenberg]

Girls are high inhib AF. Obviously the better looking you are, the higher are the chances a girl will approach you, however even when around girls who are interested in you and clearly makes it known, the chances of her actually making a direct move like asking you out or asking you for her number is rare.

This is true.

The fact that @Enigmatic93 doesn't know this tells something about his looks. If he would be decent-looking he would know that most girls who like him would just try to indirectly tell that they like him but they won't directly say it. Because he isn't good-looking he has to resort to watching Youtube videos about girls telling how they behave around attractive guys. Then he thinks that just because some girls approach that every girl does it.

Even normies know that most girls expect the guy to make the move. Most girls give signals that they like the guy - known as IOIs - but they expect the guy to approach.

Like how the fuck this forum is so delusional?

 

[Deleted member 245]

This is true.

The fact that @Enigmatic93 doesn't know this tells something about his looks. If he would be decent-looking he would know that most girls who like him would just try to indirectly tell that they like him but they won't directly say it. Because he isn't good-looking he has to resort to watching youtube videos about girls telling how they behave around attractive guys. Then he thinks that just because some girls approach that every girl does it.

Even normies know that most girls expect the guy to make the move. Most girls give signals that they like the guy - known as IOIs - but they expect the guy to approach.

Like how the fuck this forum is so delusional?

I got 4 lays from girls appproaching me first.

Women rarely approach because they find so few guys physically attractive. End of story.

 

[Wallenberg]

I got 4 lays from girls appproaching me first.

And so what? That doesn't mean that every girl will approach every guy they find attractive. Logic 101.

 

[Deleted member 11053]

This is true.

The fact that @Enigmatic93 doesn't know this tells something about his looks. If he would be decent-looking he would know that most girls who like him would just try to indirectly tell that they like him but they won't directly say it. Because he isn't good-looking he has to resort to watching Youtube videos about girls telling how they behave around attractive guys. Then he thinks that just because some girls approach that every girl does it.

Even normies know that most girls expect the guy to make the move. Most girls give signals that they like the guy - known as IOIs - but they expect the guy to approach.

Like how the fuck this forum is so delusional?

From experience If a girl really like you her iois will be almost asking you out, like very obvious things she will basically make the first move

 

[Wallenberg]

From experience If a girl really like you her iois will be almost asking you out, like very obvious things she will basically make the first move

If a girl likes you often it's obvious. It's not the same as approaching. When I talk about approaching I mean things like asking you out, telling that she likes you, etc.

 

[fukmylyf]

I got 4 lays from girls appproaching me first.

Women rarely approach because they find so few guys physically attractive. End of story.

larp. You have 0 slays and cope with prostitutes. You even admitted to getting rejected by them in the past.

 

[Deleted member 245]

And so what? That doesn't mean that every girl will approach every guy they find attractive. Logic 101.

Not every single girl will, sure.

But they will find a way to make the first move even if they don't go up and approach themselves. They'll have the friend approach, DM a guy if they can find him on social media etc.

Maybe if a girl is shy, has no friends, isn't on social media she won't approach but an overwhelming majority of the time they will find a way.

 

[Deleted member 245]

larp. You have 0 slays and cope with prostitutes. You even admitted to getting rejected by them in the past.

Nigga your entire post history is a larp

 

[Wallenberg]

2. "Girls don't behave that way, they do this instead!!"

No. Girls behave in a multitude of different ways. For example, some girls are outgoing and will approach the guy they like. Some girls are shy and won't approach, they might do the opposite and avoid the guy. And some girls change when they become attracted: extroverted girls might become shy, etc.

And here in the topic we have a prime example of this. A forum member has watched a couple of Youtube videos of girls approaching guys and now he thinks that every girl will approach every guy they find attractive.

Sometimes blackpillers are more delusional than normies. This is one example of that. Even normies know that often girls expect guy to make the first move. This doesn't mean that there aren't girls who will approach, it just means that often girls won't approach. Instead, often they just give signals to the guy that they like him (=IOIs), but they expect the guy to make the first move.

Reminder: if a girl has a crush on you she will idolize you, put you on a pedestal, etc. Girls are have fear of rejection just like some guys. Girls feel insecure around their crushes. Approaching isn't easy for them.

 

[Deleted member 245]

Even normies know that often girls expect guy to make the first move.

Normies are fucking retarded

 

[Chadeep]

You won't get stacies making moves on you even if you're a Chad. A 5/10 at best would approach you. But the girls you actually find attractive would like you to make the move first as a man.

 

[Wallenberg]

I know that some girls will approach because I have been approached, especially when they are drunk (which lowers their inhibition). However most girls simply will not directly approach and tell you that they like you or something like that.

 

[owlofathena]

I got 4 lays from girls appproaching me first.

Women rarely approach because they find so few guys physically attractive. End of story.

Your so low IQ its unbelievable. What @MaherGOAT said is facts.

 

[Deleted member 5185]

I got 4 lays from girls appproaching me first.

Women rarely approach because they find so few guys physically attractive. End of story.

Simple thought experiment:

Scenario a) These 4 lays are all lays you have ever gotten, i.e., your experience of girls approaching is that

1. If a girl is attracted to you, then:
2. They will approach

Result: It is likely that you have missed a lot of opportunities for sex because it is obviously not the case that all 4 women that has ever wanted to sleep with you also approached you, and none of those who didn't wouldn't want to sleep with you

Scenario b) These 4 lays are a small percentage of your amount of lays, i.e., you have 100 lays and only 4 of them approached you, which shows that in the 96 other instances, you had to approach them, disproving your theory.

As a result, the only way to stand behind your theory is to assume that the 4 girls who approached you are the only 4 girls that has ever wanted to be with you.