Ltn to modeling: how i did it

As i thought after looking at your videos i didn't see : your pics are so edited it's cringe. You went from truecel to ltn.
makeup and lighting=photoshop. here are your videos. clearly same bone structure even with slightly higher bf and bloated. but hey feel free to have your own opinions.
 

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food you hate and food that isn’t calorically dense. food u hate=no overeating. eat foods that are not calorically dense like vegetables or shit like miracle noodles
Thats fucking genious yo
If i eat the food i hate im gonna stop eating right after im not hungry therefore not overeat
 
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holy waterfall
 
just be fat with good underlying structure and features and lose weight theory
 
What’s your weight before and after?
 
bro ikr the change in women attention is unreal!
Like it's actually non stop, to the point it gets a bit unnerving if i'm not feeling super confident myself. It's so funny when I'm waiting for a train and a girl just spawns right next to me, and starts twirling her hair, and looking back at me.

just so I have like a basic idea is it like $200 a shoot or something with modelling? wouldn't mind it as a side gig tbh
depends but around 150-400
 
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Full Breakdown of My Looksmax Journey (16-19)

Three years ago (ages 16-19), I looked like absolute dogshit coming off a dirty bulk — soft, bloated, completely unappealing.
Now? I’m getting booked for modeling shoots. This post will be a full breakdown of everything I did to transform my appearance, what I might still add to my stack, and why certain things worked. I’ll attach before and after photos from my recent shoot as proof of results.

Step 1: Body Fat Reduction (The Foundation)

If you aren’t under 10% body fat, you aren’t maxxed. Period.

You think you’re lean at 15%. You’re not. You look good clothed but bloated and undefined shirtless.
True face leanness starts around 10%, and ideally 8-9% for elite-tier angularity.

Starting point (Pics at bottom): ~22-24% body fat (bloated, bad facial structure, minimal definition)

Halfway (Photo about 1 year after before photos): ~14-15% body fat (thought I was lean enough)
View attachment 3682928
(Better than the before photos, but still miles away from the after in terms of angularity and overall appeal)

Current state (Pics at bottom): ~10% body fat (could push even lower)

Low body fat = instant 10x boost in jawline, eye area, cheekbones, and overall face quality.
If you “think” you’re lean but your jawline isn’t crisp in natural light, you’re not lean. Starve harder.

Reminder: You are not special. Everyone looks better shredded.​

Advice:
  • Dial in a small calorie deficit, lift heavy, prioritize protein.
  • Cut aggressively if you’re very fat — 0.75%-1% body weight lost per week is sustainable.
Body fat is 80% of the battle. If you do nothing else but get shredded, your halo will increase dramatically.


Step 2: Eye Area Optimization


I genetically lucked out here: high quality orbitals, decent canthal tilt, long and dense eyelashes.

What I did add:
  • Lumify Eye Drops: Small boost, makes the sclera look clearer and whiter. Amplifies eye color, especially light eyes (blue/green/hazel).
  • Eyebrow Maintenance:
    • Still a slight weakness (minor falio: sparse brows)
    • Might try topical minoxidil in the future to thicken them naturally.
Advice:
  • If your lashes are weak: Try castor oil nightly or even finasteride drops (more aggressive but works).
  • If your eyebrows are shit: Either microblade (semi-permanent) or go the minoxidil route.
Step 3: Jawline and Masseter Gains

No jaw surgery, no implants. Pretty basic stuff.
  • Proper Tongue Posture (Mewing): Base layer. Always sealed, suction hold.
  • Hard Chewing (Falim Gum / Mastic Gum): Daily sessions, long term.
Result:
  • Masseter hypertrophy = added width and thickness to the lower third.
  • Balanced out my slightly longer vertical third.
  • Helped transition from a narrow, longer face to a more masculine and structured silhouette.
Advice:
  • 1-2 hours of hard chewing at least 3x a week.
  • Consistency > Intensity. Do it over months, not just weeks.
Step 4: Skin Care Routine (Mandatory)

Daily Routine:

  • Cleanse (AM + PM)
  • Moisturize (AM + PM)
  • Vitamin C serum (AM)
  • Niacinamide (PM)
  • Exfoliate (2-3x a week) — Salicylic acid or gentle physical exfoliant
  • Employ a lymphatic drainage routine
Tips:
  • Tan strategically: Improves contrast, enhances facial shadows, creates an illusion of leanness.
  • Vitamin D maxxing: Natural sun exposure daily for optimal skin quality and hormone regulation.
  • Melanotan II (Optional): If you’re a pasty white goblin and willing to manage the side effects.
Alternatives:
  • Tanning beds (risky)
  • Spray tans/tanning drops (safe)
Step 5: Dental Work and Smile Maxxing

Teeth are a primary halo feature.



If your teeth are:
  • Crooked = Major falio. Get braces or Invisalign yesterday.
  • Yellow = Major falio. Start bleaching.
My stack:
  • Opalescence 35% Bleach Gel + custom trays (best method by far)
  • If budget-limited: Crest Whitestrips are passable but weaker.
Advice:
  • Your smile can either amplify or destroy your halo. Invest accordingly.
  • Straight + white = massive increase in appeal.
6. Muscle Mass — Crucial Frame Upgrade

While cutting (ideally before) fat, you also need to build at least some muscle. Not to become a bodybuilder — just to get broad shoulders, rounded delts, a thick neck, and a V-taper.
Wide clavicles + muscle = your face looking smaller and sharper.
If you have a narrow face or slightly longer proportions (like I did), muscle width balances you out and massively improves proportions.

Focus lifts: Weighted pull-ups, overhead press, shrugs, incline bench, and weighted neck curls/extensions.



7. Lifestyle Maxxing (If You Skip This, You Stay a Creep)

Looksmaxxing isn’t everything. If you move like a loser, you’re a loser.
Some facts:
  • Never talk about this shit irl. It makes you sound autistic.
  • Drop the nerd slang. No “ascend,” no “halo,” no “PSL” talk. Talk like a normal human being.
  • Build an actual life. Lift, get hobbies, travel, talk to women, make money.
  • No fap maxxing. Quit porn, quit dopamine addiction, start channeling it into something worthwhile.
You could be a chad lookswise, but if you act like a self-loathing retard, that is what you will be.

PSA: Don’t Rot on This Site

Get your info, apply it, and GET OFF.
Spending 6 hours a day here will make you mentally ill. At a certain point, it’s not about improving anymore — it’s just self-hate. Take what you need, log off, and go touch grass.

Final Thoughts

This isn’t magic, but if you stay locked in for 12–24 months, you will become unrecognizable in the best way possible. Feel free to ask questions or PM me.

We’re all gonna make it brahs
lean is law type aura 🤫🧏‍♂️
 
fucking goat, i needed this thread
 
. Lean is law.
when you have good enough face bones.
if not, than it's not gonna help as much.
Still, every Looksmaxxing guy, has to become sub 10% bf, at least once. To know for sure, and see. No cope hypothitocal argueing as a fatty what oones face would look like lean, DO IT and get sub 10%
 
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makeup and lighting=photoshop. here are your videos. clearly same bone structure even with slightly higher bf and bloated. but hey feel free to have your own opinions.
if you think you're good looking i'm sorry for you.
 
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lovely transformation
 
Full Breakdown of My Looksmax Journey (16-19)

Three years ago (ages 16-19), I looked like absolute dogshit coming off a dirty bulk — soft, bloated, completely unappealing.
Now? I’m getting booked for modeling shoots. This post will be a full breakdown of everything I did to transform my appearance, what I might still add to my stack, and why certain things worked. I’ll attach before and after photos from my recent shoot as proof of results.

Step 1: Body Fat Reduction (The Foundation)

If you aren’t under 10% body fat, you aren’t maxxed. Period.

You think you’re lean at 15%. You’re not. You look good clothed but bloated and undefined shirtless.
True face leanness starts around 10%, and ideally 8-9% for elite-tier angularity.

Starting point (Pics at bottom): ~22-24% body fat (bloated, bad facial structure, minimal definition)

Halfway (Photo about 1 year after before photos): ~14-15% body fat (thought I was lean enough)
View attachment 3682928
(Better than the before photos, but still miles away from the after in terms of angularity and overall appeal)

Current state (Pics at bottom): ~10% body fat (could push even lower)

Low body fat = instant 10x boost in jawline, eye area, cheekbones, and overall face quality.
If you “think” you’re lean but your jawline isn’t crisp in natural light, you’re not lean. Starve harder.

Reminder: You are not special. Everyone looks better shredded.​

Advice:
  • Dial in a small calorie deficit, lift heavy, prioritize protein.
  • Cut aggressively if you’re very fat — 0.75%-1% body weight lost per week is sustainable.
Body fat is 80% of the battle. If you do nothing else but get shredded, your halo will increase dramatically.


Step 2: Eye Area Optimization


I genetically lucked out here: high quality orbitals, decent canthal tilt, long and dense eyelashes.

What I did add:
  • Lumify Eye Drops: Small boost, makes the sclera look clearer and whiter. Amplifies eye color, especially light eyes (blue/green/hazel).
  • Eyebrow Maintenance:
    • Still a slight weakness (minor falio: sparse brows)
    • Might try topical minoxidil in the future to thicken them naturally.
Advice:
  • If your lashes are weak: Try castor oil nightly or even finasteride drops (more aggressive but works).
  • If your eyebrows are shit: Either microblade (semi-permanent) or go the minoxidil route.
Step 3: Jawline and Masseter Gains

No jaw surgery, no implants. Pretty basic stuff.
  • Proper Tongue Posture (Mewing): Base layer. Always sealed, suction hold.
  • Hard Chewing (Falim Gum / Mastic Gum): Daily sessions, long term.
Result:
  • Masseter hypertrophy = added width and thickness to the lower third.
  • Balanced out my slightly longer vertical third.
  • Helped transition from a narrow, longer face to a more masculine and structured silhouette.
Advice:
  • 1-2 hours of hard chewing at least 3x a week.
  • Consistency > Intensity. Do it over months, not just weeks.
Step 4: Skin Care Routine (Mandatory)

Daily Routine:

  • Cleanse (AM + PM)
  • Moisturize (AM + PM)
  • Vitamin C serum (AM)
  • Niacinamide (PM)
  • Exfoliate (2-3x a week) — Salicylic acid or gentle physical exfoliant
  • Employ a lymphatic drainage routine
Tips:
  • Tan strategically: Improves contrast, enhances facial shadows, creates an illusion of leanness.
  • Vitamin D maxxing: Natural sun exposure daily for optimal skin quality and hormone regulation.
  • Melanotan II (Optional): If you’re a pasty white goblin and willing to manage the side effects.
Alternatives:
  • Tanning beds (risky)
  • Spray tans/tanning drops (safe)
Step 5: Dental Work and Smile Maxxing

Teeth are a primary halo feature.



If your teeth are:
  • Crooked = Major falio. Get braces or Invisalign yesterday.
  • Yellow = Major falio. Start bleaching.
My stack:
  • Opalescence 35% Bleach Gel + custom trays (best method by far)
  • If budget-limited: Crest Whitestrips are passable but weaker.
Advice:
  • Your smile can either amplify or destroy your halo. Invest accordingly.
  • Straight + white = massive increase in appeal.
6. Muscle Mass — Crucial Frame Upgrade

While cutting (ideally before) fat, you also need to build at least some muscle. Not to become a bodybuilder — just to get broad shoulders, rounded delts, a thick neck, and a V-taper.
Wide clavicles + muscle = your face looking smaller and sharper.
If you have a narrow face or slightly longer proportions (like I did), muscle width balances you out and massively improves proportions.

Focus lifts: Weighted pull-ups, overhead press, shrugs, incline bench, and weighted neck curls/extensions.



7. Lifestyle Maxxing (If You Skip This, You Stay a Creep)

Looksmaxxing isn’t everything. If you move like a loser, you’re a loser.
Some facts:
  • Never talk about this shit irl. It makes you sound autistic.
  • Drop the nerd slang. No “ascend,” no “halo,” no “PSL” talk. Talk like a normal human being.
  • Build an actual life. Lift, get hobbies, travel, talk to women, make money.
  • No fap maxxing. Quit porn, quit dopamine addiction, start channeling it into something worthwhile.
You could be a chad lookswise, but if you act like a self-loathing retard, that is what you will be.

PSA: Don’t Rot on This Site

Get your info, apply it, and GET OFF.
Spending 6 hours a day here will make you mentally ill. At a certain point, it’s not about improving anymore — it’s just self-hate. Take what you need, log off, and go touch grass.

Final Thoughts

This isn’t magic, but if you stay locked in for 12–24 months, you will become unrecognizable in the best way possible. Feel free to ask questions or PM me.

We’re all gonna make it brahs
damn good thread
 
makeup and lighting=photoshop. here are your videos. clearly same bone structure even with slightly higher bf and bloated. but hey feel free to have your own opinions.
Gl dude, wish i was you
 
when you have good enough face bones.
if not, than it's not gonna help as much.
Still, every Looksmaxxing guy, has to become sub 10% bf, at least once. To know for sure, and see. No cope hypothitocal argueing as a fatty what oones face would look like lean, DO IT and get sub 10%
this is truth
 
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You were never LTN. You were also fat.
 
when you have good enough face bones.
if not, than it's not gonna help as much.
Still, every Looksmaxxing guy, has to become sub 10% bf, at least once. To know for sure, and see. No cope hypothitocal argueing as a fatty what oones face would look like lean, DO IT and get sub 10%
Sub 10% is somewhat of a cope. If you don't have decent looking facial bones at 17-20%, you're not gonna get much better below 10% - you'll just look malnourished
 
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Full Breakdown of My Looksmax Journey (16-19)

Three years ago (ages 16-19), I looked like absolute dogshit coming off a dirty bulk — soft, bloated, completely unappealing.
Now? I’m getting booked for modeling shoots. This post will be a full breakdown of everything I did to transform my appearance, what I might still add to my stack, and why certain things worked. I’ll attach before and after photos from my recent shoot as proof of results.

Step 1: Body Fat Reduction (The Foundation)

If you aren’t under 10% body fat, you aren’t maxxed. Period.

You think you’re lean at 15%. You’re not. You look good clothed but bloated and undefined shirtless.
True face leanness starts around 10%, and ideally 8-9% for elite-tier angularity.

Starting point (Pics at bottom): ~22-24% body fat (bloated, bad facial structure, minimal definition)

Halfway (Photo about 1 year after before photos): ~14-15% body fat (thought I was lean enough)
View attachment 3682928
(Better than the before photos, but still miles away from the after in terms of angularity and overall appeal)

Current state (Pics at bottom): ~10% body fat (could push even lower)

Low body fat = instant 10x boost in jawline, eye area, cheekbones, and overall face quality.
If you “think” you’re lean but your jawline isn’t crisp in natural light, you’re not lean. Starve harder.

Reminder: You are not special. Everyone looks better shredded.​

Advice:
  • Dial in a small calorie deficit, lift heavy, prioritize protein.
  • Cut aggressively if you’re very fat — 0.75%-1% body weight lost per week is sustainable.
Body fat is 80% of the battle. If you do nothing else but get shredded, your halo will increase dramatically.


Step 2: Eye Area Optimization


I genetically lucked out here: high quality orbitals, decent canthal tilt, long and dense eyelashes.

What I did add:
  • Lumify Eye Drops: Small boost, makes the sclera look clearer and whiter. Amplifies eye color, especially light eyes (blue/green/hazel).
  • Eyebrow Maintenance:
    • Still a slight weakness (minor falio: sparse brows)
    • Might try topical minoxidil in the future to thicken them naturally.
Advice:
  • If your lashes are weak: Try castor oil nightly or even finasteride drops (more aggressive but works).
  • If your eyebrows are shit: Either microblade (semi-permanent) or go the minoxidil route.
Step 3: Jawline and Masseter Gains

No jaw surgery, no implants. Pretty basic stuff.
  • Proper Tongue Posture (Mewing): Base layer. Always sealed, suction hold.
  • Hard Chewing (Falim Gum / Mastic Gum): Daily sessions, long term.
Result:
  • Masseter hypertrophy = added width and thickness to the lower third.
  • Balanced out my slightly longer vertical third.
  • Helped transition from a narrow, longer face to a more masculine and structured silhouette.
Advice:
  • 1-2 hours of hard chewing at least 3x a week.
  • Consistency > Intensity. Do it over months, not just weeks.
Step 4: Skin Care Routine (Mandatory)

Daily Routine:

  • Cleanse (AM + PM)
  • Moisturize (AM + PM)
  • Vitamin C serum (AM)
  • Niacinamide (PM)
  • Exfoliate (2-3x a week) — Salicylic acid or gentle physical exfoliant
  • Employ a lymphatic drainage routine
Tips:
  • Tan strategically: Improves contrast, enhances facial shadows, creates an illusion of leanness.
  • Vitamin D maxxing: Natural sun exposure daily for optimal skin quality and hormone regulation.
  • Melanotan II (Optional): If you’re a pasty white goblin and willing to manage the side effects.
Alternatives:
  • Tanning beds (risky)
  • Spray tans/tanning drops (safe)
Step 5: Dental Work and Smile Maxxing

Teeth are a primary halo feature.



If your teeth are:
  • Crooked = Major falio. Get braces or Invisalign yesterday.
  • Yellow = Major falio. Start bleaching.
My stack:
  • Opalescence 35% Bleach Gel + custom trays (best method by far)
  • If budget-limited: Crest Whitestrips are passable but weaker.
Advice:
  • Your smile can either amplify or destroy your halo. Invest accordingly.
  • Straight + white = massive increase in appeal.
6. Muscle Mass — Crucial Frame Upgrade

While cutting (ideally before) fat, you also need to build at least some muscle. Not to become a bodybuilder — just to get broad shoulders, rounded delts, a thick neck, and a V-taper.
Wide clavicles + muscle = your face looking smaller and sharper.
If you have a narrow face or slightly longer proportions (like I did), muscle width balances you out and massively improves proportions.

Focus lifts: Weighted pull-ups, overhead press, shrugs, incline bench, and weighted neck curls/extensions.



7. Lifestyle Maxxing (If You Skip This, You Stay a Creep)

Looksmaxxing isn’t everything. If you move like a loser, you’re a loser.
Some facts:
  • Never talk about this shit irl. It makes you sound autistic.
  • Drop the nerd slang. No “ascend,” no “halo,” no “PSL” talk. Talk like a normal human being.
  • Build an actual life. Lift, get hobbies, travel, talk to women, make money.
  • No fap maxxing. Quit porn, quit dopamine addiction, start channeling it into something worthwhile.
You could be a chad lookswise, but if you act like a self-loathing retard, that is what you will be.

PSA: Don’t Rot on This Site

Get your info, apply it, and GET OFF.
Spending 6 hours a day here will make you mentally ill. At a certain point, it’s not about improving anymore — it’s just self-hate. Take what you need, log off, and go touch grass.

Final Thoughts

This isn’t magic, but if you stay locked in for 12–24 months, you will become unrecognizable in the best way possible. Feel free to ask questions or PM me.

We’re all gonna make it brahs
Genuinely one of the botb.

you had a good base tho but mirin
 
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Full Breakdown of My Looksmax Journey (16-19)

Three years ago (ages 16-19), I looked like absolute dogshit coming off a dirty bulk — soft, bloated, completely unappealing.
Now? I’m getting booked for modeling shoots. This post will be a full breakdown of everything I did to transform my appearance, what I might still add to my stack, and why certain things worked. I’ll attach before and after photos from my recent shoot as proof of results.

Step 1: Body Fat Reduction (The Foundation)

If you aren’t under 10% body fat, you aren’t maxxed. Period.

You think you’re lean at 15%. You’re not. You look good clothed but bloated and undefined shirtless.
True face leanness starts around 10%, and ideally 8-9% for elite-tier angularity.

Starting point (Pics at bottom): ~22-24% body fat (bloated, bad facial structure, minimal definition)

Halfway (Photo about 1 year after before photos): ~14-15% body fat (thought I was lean enough)
View attachment 3682928
(Better than the before photos, but still miles away from the after in terms of angularity and overall appeal)

Current state (Pics at bottom): ~10% body fat (could push even lower)

Low body fat = instant 10x boost in jawline, eye area, cheekbones, and overall face quality.
If you “think” you’re lean but your jawline isn’t crisp in natural light, you’re not lean. Starve harder.

Reminder: You are not special. Everyone looks better shredded.​

Advice:
  • Dial in a small calorie deficit, lift heavy, prioritize protein.
  • Cut aggressively if you’re very fat — 0.75%-1% body weight lost per week is sustainable.
Body fat is 80% of the battle. If you do nothing else but get shredded, your halo will increase dramatically.


Step 2: Eye Area Optimization


I genetically lucked out here: high quality orbitals, decent canthal tilt, long and dense eyelashes.

What I did add:
  • Lumify Eye Drops: Small boost, makes the sclera look clearer and whiter. Amplifies eye color, especially light eyes (blue/green/hazel).
  • Eyebrow Maintenance:
    • Still a slight weakness (minor falio: sparse brows)
    • Might try topical minoxidil in the future to thicken them naturally.
Advice:
  • If your lashes are weak: Try castor oil nightly or even finasteride drops (more aggressive but works).
  • If your eyebrows are shit: Either microblade (semi-permanent) or go the minoxidil route.
Step 3: Jawline and Masseter Gains

No jaw surgery, no implants. Pretty basic stuff.
  • Proper Tongue Posture (Mewing): Base layer. Always sealed, suction hold.
  • Hard Chewing (Falim Gum / Mastic Gum): Daily sessions, long term.
Result:
  • Masseter hypertrophy = added width and thickness to the lower third.
  • Balanced out my slightly longer vertical third.
  • Helped transition from a narrow, longer face to a more masculine and structured silhouette.
Advice:
  • 1-2 hours of hard chewing at least 3x a week.
  • Consistency > Intensity. Do it over months, not just weeks.
Step 4: Skin Care Routine (Mandatory)

Daily Routine:

  • Cleanse (AM + PM)
  • Moisturize (AM + PM)
  • Vitamin C serum (AM)
  • Niacinamide (PM)
  • Exfoliate (2-3x a week) — Salicylic acid or gentle physical exfoliant
  • Employ a lymphatic drainage routine
Tips:
  • Tan strategically: Improves contrast, enhances facial shadows, creates an illusion of leanness.
  • Vitamin D maxxing: Natural sun exposure daily for optimal skin quality and hormone regulation.
  • Melanotan II (Optional): If you’re a pasty white goblin and willing to manage the side effects.
Alternatives:
  • Tanning beds (risky)
  • Spray tans/tanning drops (safe)
Step 5: Dental Work and Smile Maxxing

Teeth are a primary halo feature.



If your teeth are:
  • Crooked = Major falio. Get braces or Invisalign yesterday.
  • Yellow = Major falio. Start bleaching.
My stack:
  • Opalescence 35% Bleach Gel + custom trays (best method by far)
  • If budget-limited: Crest Whitestrips are passable but weaker.
Advice:
  • Your smile can either amplify or destroy your halo. Invest accordingly.
  • Straight + white = massive increase in appeal.
6. Muscle Mass — Crucial Frame Upgrade

While cutting (ideally before) fat, you also need to build at least some muscle. Not to become a bodybuilder — just to get broad shoulders, rounded delts, a thick neck, and a V-taper.
Wide clavicles + muscle = your face looking smaller and sharper.
If you have a narrow face or slightly longer proportions (like I did), muscle width balances you out and massively improves proportions.

Focus lifts: Weighted pull-ups, overhead press, shrugs, incline bench, and weighted neck curls/extensions.



7. Lifestyle Maxxing (If You Skip This, You Stay a Creep)

Looksmaxxing isn’t everything. If you move like a loser, you’re a loser.
Some facts:
  • Never talk about this shit irl. It makes you sound autistic.
  • Drop the nerd slang. No “ascend,” no “halo,” no “PSL” talk. Talk like a normal human being.
  • Build an actual life. Lift, get hobbies, travel, talk to women, make money.
  • No fap maxxing. Quit porn, quit dopamine addiction, start channeling it into something worthwhile.
You could be a chad lookswise, but if you act like a self-loathing retard, that is what you will be.

PSA: Don’t Rot on This Site

Get your info, apply it, and GET OFF.
Spending 6 hours a day here will make you mentally ill. At a certain point, it’s not about improving anymore — it’s just self-hate. Take what you need, log off, and go touch grass.

Final Thoughts

This isn’t magic, but if you stay locked in for 12–24 months, you will become unrecognizable in the best way possible. Feel free to ask questions or PM me.

We’re all gonna make it brahs
Holy botb

Dont listen to haters bro ty for not gatekeeping, I believe you

Guys stop trollijg or else people will gatekeep 😡
 
You made a giant thread and bothered to photoshop your pics to get a few reacts pal
Nigga stfu stop hating say good ascension and move on why tf are you on his dick ?:ROFLMAO:
 
Sub 10% is somewhat of a cope. If you don't have decent looking facial bones at 17-20%, you're not gonna get much better below 10% - you'll just look malnourished
point being. At 20% bodyfat YOU DON'T KNOW if you have decent looking facial bones or not.

this man, looked like he had SHIT facial bones at 20% BODYFAT. Turned out he didn't have That bad a bones and looks okay when lean

Recessed
Not recessed


 
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point being. At 20% bodyfat YOU DON'T KNOW if you have decent looking facial bones or not.

this man, looked like he had SHIT facial bones at 20% BODYFAT. Turned out he didn't have That bad a bones and looks okay when lean

View attachment 3744648 View attachment 3744649

his bf% was higher than 20, at the very least the higher end of 20s which is clinically obese. but if you're average range 18-21% then your bones are just shit and you either rope or surgerymax
 
@greycel See bro it's why i don't like narcies. Never a genuine good looking dude would be narcy, because it comes with too much self awareness and humility. He really thinks he's extremely attractive. it baffles me.
 
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his bf% was higher than 20, at the very least the higher end of 20s which is clinically obese. but if you're average range 18-21% then your bones are just shit and you either rope or surgerymax
bones or not, he's not genuinely good looking nor striking. Nor even his bone structure is impressive - and that's not even what matters in a face but claiming he has good bones when his whole midface starting from lower eyelid is sunked in, that his chin is too square for his narrow and rounded mandible and already all signs of aging in nasolabial, under eye and midface due do quite much recession, is laughable.
I won't even talk about his soft features or his harmony. If he can model, most dudes can.
 
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@greycel See bro it's why i don't like narcies. Never a genuine good looking dude would be narcy, because it comes with too much self awareness and humility. He really thinks he's extremely attractive. it baffles me.
His bone mass is good and he has some good features, but his harmony could be better

Even if he was good looking, nobody should be allowed to have an ego
But yeah I understand where you’re coming from. I think good looking guys can be narcissistic, but they would’ve been a subgroup of the people who made an ascension later in life
The :bluepill: chads who have always been good looking, would never have this ego

This guy clearly doesn’t fit in that group
 
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His bone mass is good and he has some good features, but his harmony could be better
Like when i imagine someone being able to model and be able to live off it and be able to give advices narcily as he does, looking like a lower version of chico or something.
Narcyness is a disease. It's just to hide something else. I'm not saying you should be hating yourself quite the opposite. but be humble and know where you come from and try to help others rather than putting yourself forward as individualism tells you to.
I had a bigger ascension both from where i came from and from where i ended than op, both in softmax and hardmax and soft and hard features and i'm still reaching a new tier, but did i ever made a brag thread of made fun of anyone for his looks?
This mentality genuinely angers me. Especially when you're not that impressive to back it up.
When i see someone extremely good looking, i just admit ok he's the deal, i accept he looks insane and i'm admirative. but a narcy htn or close to it is what's the most despicable even more so than a normie narcy because the latter copes for survival.

That's one of the issue i have with this thread.
the second is the fucking photoshop and fraud. i hate frauders. He looks extremely worse in a bit less frauded video compared to the pics so we can't trust him.
 
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Like when i imagine someone being able to model and be able to live off it and be able to give advices narcily as he does, looking like a lower version of chico or something.
Narcyness is a disease. It's just to hide something else. I'm not saying you should be hating yourself quite the opposite. but be humble and know where you come from and try to help others rather than putting yourself forward as individualism tells you to.
I had a bigger ascension both from where i came from and from where i ended than op, both in softmax and hardmax and soft and hard features and i'm still reaching a new tier, but did i ever made a brag thread of made fun of anyone for his looks?
This mentality genuinely angers me. Especially when you're not that impressive to back it up.
When i see someone extremely good looking, i just admit ok he's the deal, i accept he looks insane and i'm admirative. but a narcy htn or close to it is what's the most despicable even more so than a normie narcy because the latter copes for survival.

That's one of the issue i have with this thread.
the second is the fucking photoshop and fraud. i hate frauders. He looks extremely worse in a bit less frauded video compared to the pics so we can't trust him.
I used to feel the same way as you, a few years back when I found this site and I saw how people would put down others
Truth is man, their narcissism is the result of the experiences they had growing up. Had they lived through every experience you did in your life, that you were lucky to have, they'd be pretty much the same... and if not (due to genes relating to brain chemistry), that would be out of their control.

So there's no reason to hate them, given they themselves are the product of their environment + luck. You can hate the system, the fact that it exists, but no point hating the individuals
We can only lead them in a direction that'll benefit not just themselves (if they eliminate their egos), but the rest of society too.
But it goes back to the saying:
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So if you don't see much of a scope for the individual to see change / requires too much effort, just ignore these guys - but don't hate them
 
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Truth is man, their narcissism is the result of the experiences they had growing up. Had they lived through every experience you did in your life, that you were lucky to have
It's not to get pity, but all my life experience from birth survival to todays, has been a succession of very harsh and hard to overcome moments. But even at my lowest i kept hope and good means. The only luck i had i have to admit is to have a lovely family. Nothing beats that. And God at top. The rest is cope imo, we can find them justifications but at the end of the day, you are responsible for what your hands acquire. If we, with a more harsh life didn't ever remotely end up like this, then they have no excuses to be.
So there's no reason to hate them, given they themselves are the product of their environment + luck. You can hate the system, the fact that it exists, but no point hating the individuals
We can only lead them in a direction that'll benefit not just themselves (if they eliminate their egos), but the rest of society too.
But it goes back to the saying:
you're fully right, i made this mistake many times, hoping to guide people i valued. But Only God guides people. And he verily decides to guide whoever he wants. We are only means. we have to do the cause. even my post is wrong i should've just ignored him. life is too short to focus it on what matters not.
So if you don't see much of a scope for the individual to see change / requires too much effort, just ignore these guys - but don't hate them
you're right. thank you. The ascension of the heart/soul is the most waited for. let's continue it.
 
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Full Breakdown of My Looksmax Journey (16-19)

Three years ago (ages 16-19), I looked like absolute dogshit coming off a dirty bulk — soft, bloated, completely unappealing.
Now? I’m getting booked for modeling shoots. This post will be a full breakdown of everything I did to transform my appearance, what I might still add to my stack, and why certain things worked. I’ll attach before and after photos from my recent shoot as proof of results.

Step 1: Body Fat Reduction (The Foundation)

If you aren’t under 10% body fat, you aren’t maxxed. Period.

You think you’re lean at 15%. You’re not. You look good clothed but bloated and undefined shirtless.
True face leanness starts around 10%, and ideally 8-9% for elite-tier angularity.

Starting point (Pics at bottom): ~22-24% body fat (bloated, bad facial structure, minimal definition)

Halfway (Photo about 1 year after before photos): ~14-15% body fat (thought I was lean enough)
View attachment 3682928
(Better than the before photos, but still miles away from the after in terms of angularity and overall appeal)

Current state (Pics at bottom): ~10% body fat (could push even lower)

Low body fat = instant 10x boost in jawline, eye area, cheekbones, and overall face quality.
If you “think” you’re lean but your jawline isn’t crisp in natural light, you’re not lean. Starve harder.

Reminder: You are not special. Everyone looks better shredded.​

Advice:
  • Dial in a small calorie deficit, lift heavy, prioritize protein.
  • Cut aggressively if you’re very fat — 0.75%-1% body weight lost per week is sustainable.
Body fat is 80% of the battle. If you do nothing else but get shredded, your halo will increase dramatically.


Step 2: Eye Area Optimization


I genetically lucked out here: high quality orbitals, decent canthal tilt, long and dense eyelashes.

What I did add:
  • Lumify Eye Drops: Small boost, makes the sclera look clearer and whiter. Amplifies eye color, especially light eyes (blue/green/hazel).
  • Eyebrow Maintenance:
    • Still a slight weakness (minor falio: sparse brows)
    • Might try topical minoxidil in the future to thicken them naturally.
Advice:
  • If your lashes are weak: Try castor oil nightly or even finasteride drops (more aggressive but works).
  • If your eyebrows are shit: Either microblade (semi-permanent) or go the minoxidil route.
Step 3: Jawline and Masseter Gains

No jaw surgery, no implants. Pretty basic stuff.
  • Proper Tongue Posture (Mewing): Base layer. Always sealed, suction hold.
  • Hard Chewing (Falim Gum / Mastic Gum): Daily sessions, long term.
Result:
  • Masseter hypertrophy = added width and thickness to the lower third.
  • Balanced out my slightly longer vertical third.
  • Helped transition from a narrow, longer face to a more masculine and structured silhouette.
Advice:
  • 1-2 hours of hard chewing at least 3x a week.
  • Consistency > Intensity. Do it over months, not just weeks.
Step 4: Skin Care Routine (Mandatory)

Daily Routine:

  • Cleanse (AM + PM)
  • Moisturize (AM + PM)
  • Vitamin C serum (AM)
  • Niacinamide (PM)
  • Exfoliate (2-3x a week) — Salicylic acid or gentle physical exfoliant
  • Employ a lymphatic drainage routine
Tips:
  • Tan strategically: Improves contrast, enhances facial shadows, creates an illusion of leanness.
  • Vitamin D maxxing: Natural sun exposure daily for optimal skin quality and hormone regulation.
  • Melanotan II (Optional): If you’re a pasty white goblin and willing to manage the side effects.
Alternatives:
  • Tanning beds (risky)
  • Spray tans/tanning drops (safe)
Step 5: Dental Work and Smile Maxxing

Teeth are a primary halo feature.



If your teeth are:
  • Crooked = Major falio. Get braces or Invisalign yesterday.
  • Yellow = Major falio. Start bleaching.
My stack:
  • Opalescence 35% Bleach Gel + custom trays (best method by far)
  • If budget-limited: Crest Whitestrips are passable but weaker.
Advice:
  • Your smile can either amplify or destroy your halo. Invest accordingly.
  • Straight + white = massive increase in appeal.
6. Muscle Mass — Crucial Frame Upgrade

While cutting (ideally before) fat, you also need to build at least some muscle. Not to become a bodybuilder — just to get broad shoulders, rounded delts, a thick neck, and a V-taper.
Wide clavicles + muscle = your face looking smaller and sharper.
If you have a narrow face or slightly longer proportions (like I did), muscle width balances you out and massively improves proportions.

Focus lifts: Weighted pull-ups, overhead press, shrugs, incline bench, and weighted neck curls/extensions.



7. Lifestyle Maxxing (If You Skip This, You Stay a Creep)

Looksmaxxing isn’t everything. If you move like a loser, you’re a loser.
Some facts:
  • Never talk about this shit irl. It makes you sound autistic.
  • Drop the nerd slang. No “ascend,” no “halo,” no “PSL” talk. Talk like a normal human being.
  • Build an actual life. Lift, get hobbies, travel, talk to women, make money.
  • No fap maxxing. Quit porn, quit dopamine addiction, start channeling it into something worthwhile.
You could be a chad lookswise, but if you act like a self-loathing retard, that is what you will be.

PSA: Don’t Rot on This Site

Get your info, apply it, and GET OFF.
Spending 6 hours a day here will make you mentally ill. At a certain point, it’s not about improving anymore — it’s just self-hate. Take what you need, log off, and go touch grass.

Final Thoughts

This isn’t magic, but if you stay locked in for 12–24 months, you will become unrecognizable in the best way possible. Feel free to ask questions or PM me.

We’re all gonna make it brahs
Mirin
 
WONKIEST FACE EVER :LOL:. Even the bs "model" photos where the whole jaw bone has been photoshopped had to be taken at angles cos of his wonky ass face :blackpill::LOL::feelswhy:.
 
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Full Breakdown of My Looksmax Journey (16-19)

Three years ago (ages 16-19), I looked like absolute dogshit coming off a dirty bulk — soft, bloated, completely unappealing.
Now? I’m getting booked for modeling shoots. This post will be a full breakdown of everything I did to transform my appearance, what I might still add to my stack, and why certain things worked. I’ll attach before and after photos from my recent shoot as proof of results.

Step 1: Body Fat Reduction (The Foundation)

If you aren’t under 10% body fat, you aren’t maxxed. Period.

You think you’re lean at 15%. You’re not. You look good clothed but bloated and undefined shirtless.
True face leanness starts around 10%, and ideally 8-9% for elite-tier angularity.

Starting point (Pics at bottom): ~22-24% body fat (bloated, bad facial structure, minimal definition)

Halfway (Photo about 1 year after before photos): ~14-15% body fat (thought I was lean enough)
View attachment 3682928
(Better than the before photos, but still miles away from the after in terms of angularity and overall appeal)

Current state (Pics at bottom): ~10% body fat (could push even lower)

Low body fat = instant 10x boost in jawline, eye area, cheekbones, and overall face quality.
If you “think” you’re lean but your jawline isn’t crisp in natural light, you’re not lean. Starve harder.

Reminder: You are not special. Everyone looks better shredded.​

Advice:
  • Dial in a small calorie deficit, lift heavy, prioritize protein.
  • Cut aggressively if you’re very fat — 0.75%-1% body weight lost per week is sustainable.
Body fat is 80% of the battle. If you do nothing else but get shredded, your halo will increase dramatically.


Step 2: Eye Area Optimization


I genetically lucked out here: high quality orbitals, decent canthal tilt, long and dense eyelashes.

What I did add:
  • Lumify Eye Drops: Small boost, makes the sclera look clearer and whiter. Amplifies eye color, especially light eyes (blue/green/hazel).
  • Eyebrow Maintenance:
    • Still a slight weakness (minor falio: sparse brows)
    • Might try topical minoxidil in the future to thicken them naturally.
Advice:
  • If your lashes are weak: Try castor oil nightly or even finasteride drops (more aggressive but works).
  • If your eyebrows are shit: Either microblade (semi-permanent) or go the minoxidil route.
Step 3: Jawline and Masseter Gains

No jaw surgery, no implants. Pretty basic stuff.
  • Proper Tongue Posture (Mewing): Base layer. Always sealed, suction hold.
  • Hard Chewing (Falim Gum / Mastic Gum): Daily sessions, long term.
Result:
  • Masseter hypertrophy = added width and thickness to the lower third.
  • Balanced out my slightly longer vertical third.
  • Helped transition from a narrow, longer face to a more masculine and structured silhouette.
Advice:
  • 1-2 hours of hard chewing at least 3x a week.
  • Consistency > Intensity. Do it over months, not just weeks.
Step 4: Skin Care Routine (Mandatory)

Daily Routine:

  • Cleanse (AM + PM)
  • Moisturize (AM + PM)
  • Vitamin C serum (AM)
  • Niacinamide (PM)
  • Exfoliate (2-3x a week) — Salicylic acid or gentle physical exfoliant
  • Employ a lymphatic drainage routine
Tips:
  • Tan strategically: Improves contrast, enhances facial shadows, creates an illusion of leanness.
  • Vitamin D maxxing: Natural sun exposure daily for optimal skin quality and hormone regulation.
  • Melanotan II (Optional): If you’re a pasty white goblin and willing to manage the side effects.
Alternatives:
  • Tanning beds (risky)
  • Spray tans/tanning drops (safe)
Step 5: Dental Work and Smile Maxxing

Teeth are a primary halo feature.



If your teeth are:
  • Crooked = Major falio. Get braces or Invisalign yesterday.
  • Yellow = Major falio. Start bleaching.
My stack:
  • Opalescence 35% Bleach Gel + custom trays (best method by far)
  • If budget-limited: Crest Whitestrips are passable but weaker.
Advice:
  • Your smile can either amplify or destroy your halo. Invest accordingly.
  • Straight + white = massive increase in appeal.
6. Muscle Mass — Crucial Frame Upgrade

While cutting (ideally before) fat, you also need to build at least some muscle. Not to become a bodybuilder — just to get broad shoulders, rounded delts, a thick neck, and a V-taper.
Wide clavicles + muscle = your face looking smaller and sharper.
If you have a narrow face or slightly longer proportions (like I did), muscle width balances you out and massively improves proportions.

Focus lifts: Weighted pull-ups, overhead press, shrugs, incline bench, and weighted neck curls/extensions.



7. Lifestyle Maxxing (If You Skip This, You Stay a Creep)

Looksmaxxing isn’t everything. If you move like a loser, you’re a loser.
Some facts:
  • Never talk about this shit irl. It makes you sound autistic.
  • Drop the nerd slang. No “ascend,” no “halo,” no “PSL” talk. Talk like a normal human being.
  • Build an actual life. Lift, get hobbies, travel, talk to women, make money.
  • No fap maxxing. Quit porn, quit dopamine addiction, start channeling it into something worthwhile.
You could be a chad lookswise, but if you act like a self-loathing retard, that is what you will be.

PSA: Don’t Rot on This Site

Get your info, apply it, and GET OFF.
Spending 6 hours a day here will make you mentally ill. At a certain point, it’s not about improving anymore — it’s just self-hate. Take what you need, log off, and go touch grass.

Final Thoughts

This isn’t magic, but if you stay locked in for 12–24 months, you will become unrecognizable in the best way possible. Feel free to ask questions or PM me.

We’re all gonna make it brahs
dayum, lucid
 

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