Male dimo threshold is unbelievably low, the time ur on the androgens r what matter the most

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Look at his profile, very male dimorphic ever since the year he started trt just goes to show how little trt u need for normal dimo.

He is also probably taking moderate to highish doses, imagine what supraphysiological doses would do :ogre:


 
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omg nigger how many times are you going to post this, this doesnt work for men because THEIR BODY IS ALREADY ADAPTED TO TEST, THEIR VOCALS, MUSCLES, BONES HAVE ALREADY BEEN EXPOSED TO TEST
 
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omg nigger how many times are you going to post this, this doesnt work for men because THEIR BODY IS ALREADY ADAPTED TO TEST, THEIR VOCALS, MUSCLES, BONES HAVE ALREADY BEEN EXPOSED TO TEST
Your body doesn’t adapt to test:feelskek:

if that were true why don’t body builders stop building muscle during test cycles:think:
 
Your body doesn’t adapt to test:feelskek:

if that were true why don’t body builders stop building muscle during test cycles:think:
what nigga are you actually retarded or whats going on here, test is obviously going to help muscle gain but it wont make you more dimorphic after puberty, like i said a million times before, women who transition to males have never been exposed to high testosterone so their body isnt adapted to it, if they start taking testosterone their body will masculinize because THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN EXPOSED TO TEST BEFORE, for men during puberty they already get a surge of testosterone, their body adapts, their vocals thicken, they get more masculine, if you just inject more test after this its not going to do much because the change has already happened, its the same as injecting hgh when your plates are closed, it wont make you taller. its the same thing as if someone has a severe vitamin d deficiency and they start mega dosing vitamin d and their life gets much better, the same thing isnt going to happen to the person with healthy vitamin d levels
 
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omg nigger how many times are you going to post this, this doesnt work for men because THEIR BODY IS ALREADY ADAPTED TO TEST, THEIR VOCALS, MUSCLES, BONES HAVE ALREADY BEEN EXPOSED TO TEST
The affect is linear, the more androgens u have in ur body regardless of ur AR sensitivity, cag repeats/ u r going to have a linear affect of muscle growth, bone growth, growth velocity etc., there r studies on this.

More testosterone = more muscle growth literal studies to back this up.

So what tells u this doesn’t apply to bone, these FTM videos r clear proof and evidence that the androgen threshold is probably lower than expected and this also disproves another known “fact”:think:

It turns out ur sutures actually don’t rlly close as young as u think they do, we can see this through females taking trt in their late 20’, for ex;27 and achieving insane male dimo gains

@Kojo @Zeylet
 
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The affect is linear, the more androgens u have in ur body regardless of ur AR sensitivity, cag repeats/ u r going to have a linear affect of muscle growth, bone growth, growth velocity etc., there r studies on this.

More testosterone = more muscle growth literal studies to back this up.

So what tells u this doesn’t apply to bone, these FTM videos r clear proof and evidence that the androgen threshold is probably lower than expected and this also disproves another known “fact”:think:

It turns out ur sutures actually don’t rlly close as young as u think they do, we can see this through females taking trt in their late 20’, for ex;27 and achieving insane male dimo gains

@Kojo @Zeylet
tell me why rich pianas face didnt change after years of abusing high levels of androgens, it wont grow bones it wont make you more masculine
 
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what nigga are you actually retarded or whats going on here, test is obviously going to help muscle gain but it wont make you more dimorphic after puberty, like i said a million times before, women who transition to males have never been exposed to high testosterone so their body isnt adapted to it, if they start taking testosterone their body will masculinize because THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN EXPOSED TO TEST BEFORE, for men during puberty they already get a surge of testosterone, their body adapts, their vocals thicken, they get more masculine, if you just inject more test after this its not going to do much because the change has already happened, its the same as injecting hgh when your plates are closed, it wont make you taller. its the same thing as if someone has a severe vitamin d deficiency and they start mega dosing vitamin d and their life gets much better, the same thing isnt going to happen to the person with healthy vitamin d levels
That’s not how hormones work, their receptors r upregulated sure, but receptors will get used to it a good month or 2 in anyway,

Fyi ur claim is further disproven from the fact their androgen receptor density is very shit due to being a woman all their lives, it would take a good year or 2 to actually have the androgen density of a man and even then, would still be limited due to the genes they were previously homozygous for as a woman
:think:

Once again, we literally have evidence testosterone is linear, higher dose = more muscle
 
tell me why rich pianas face didnt change after years of abusing high levels of androgens, it wont grow bones it wont make you more masculine
Did I not say, the facial sutures close ALOT later than we thought? Rich piana is nowhere near in his late 20’s:ogre:

Also for ur knowledge his face did change it’s more robust and bigger if u saw older pics of him:feelshah:
 
That’s not how hormones work, their receptors r upregulated sure, but receptors will get used to it a good month or 2 in anyway,

Fyi ur claim is further disproven from the fact their androgen receptor density is very shit due to being a woman all their lives, it would take a good year or 2 to actually have the androgen density of a man and even then, would still be limited due to the genes they were previously homozygous for as a woman
:think:

Once again, we literally have evidence testosterone is linear, higher dose = more muscle
yes more test more muscle, more test doesnt equal more bones and bigger frame or whatever you are looking for, anyway nigga go blast a gram of test and then mention me in the thread when you fail to achieve the same result
 
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yes more test more muscle, more test doesnt equal more bones and bigger frame or whatever you are looking for, anyway nigga go blast a gram of test and then mention me in the thread when you fail to achieve the same result
So u would have more muscle from the more test u blast, but that same ideation is false when it’s applied to bone, height velocity etc. even though THEY have androgen receptors too??:think::think::think:

Fyi we have proof the more androgens u take the greater increase in height velocity too
 
Did I not say, the facial sutures close ALOT later than we thought? Rich piana is nowhere near in his late 20’s:ogre:

Also for ur knowledge his face did change it’s more robust and bigger if u saw older pics of him:feelshah:
yea i didnt see a single change but his face getting bigger is from muscle gain, i guarantee you there is no permanent measurable growth that otherwise wouldnt have happened if he didnt hop on
 
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So u would have more muscle from the more test u blast, but that same ideation is false when it’s applied to bone, height velocity etc. even though THEY have androgen receptors too??:think::think::think:

Fyi we have proof the more androgens u take the greater increase in height velocity too
ok if you believe so then hop on and show us the result
 
ok if you believe so then hop on and show us the result
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Don’t have to, this guy already did it for us:feelsuhh:

U can obviously see I’m right look at his male dimo compared to when he was natty
 
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Don’t have to, this guy already did it for us:feelsuhh:

U can obviously see I’m right look at his male dimo compared to when he was natty
his muscles got bigger... he is leaner..... better light.... how does this prove any change facially, i am not saying you are not going to see "some" dimo changes from hopping on, but it is going to be nowhere close to the level women are getting when they are transitioning, please if you are so confident and if you have found the secret to fixing shit genetics then show us :lul:
 
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his muscles got bigger... he is leaner..... better light.... how does this prove any change facially, i am not saying you are not going to see "some" dimo changes from hopping on, but it is going to be nowhere close to the level women are getting when they are transitioning, please if you are so confident and if you have found the secret to fixing shit genetics then show us :lul:
Bro r u blind no offense?

Do u not see his browridge:feelsuhh:
 
Bro r u blind no offense?

Do u not see his browridge:feelsuhh:
he is squinting, first one is absolutely shit light, the second one is very good light
 
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The affect is linear, the more androgens u have in ur body regardless of ur AR sensitivity, cag repeats/ u r going to have a linear affect of muscle growth, bone growth, growth velocity etc., there r studies on this.
If by linear you simply mean more test = more dimo/receptor agonism then I can agree there, but that's not the same as saying you can't get the linear increase due to the receptors raping themselves.
More testosterone = more muscle growth literal studies to back this up.
Agreed of course, I don't know if this was meant for me
So what tells u this doesn’t apply to bone, these FTM videos r clear proof and evidence that the androgen threshold is probably lower than expected and this also disproves another known “fact”:think:

It turns out ur sutures actually don’t rlly close as young as u think they do, we can see this through females taking trt in their late 20’, for ex;27 and achieving insane male dimo gains

@Kojo @Zeylet
Sutures don't close that young which is true, but it's about ar responsiveness to push dimo/projection gains in bone

I don't disagree with the idea of compensation of roids either but I'd have to see like 5 really good examples of a normal male that developed into adulthood getting these changes with roids.

This is a similar concept as to how you technically don't stop growing until about 19-21 but there's no material to push marginal growth from almost fused plates that did most of their work in puberty.
 
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If by linear you simply mean more test = more dimo/receptor agonism then I can agree there, but that's not the same as saying you can't get the linear increase due to the receptors raping themselves.

Agreed of course, I don't know if this was meant for me

Sutures don't close that young which is true, but it's about ar responsiveness to push dimo/projection gains in bone

I don't disagree with the idea of compensation of roids either but I'd have to see like 5 really good examples of a normal male that developed into adulthood getting these changes with roids.

This is a similar concept as to how you technically don't stop growing until about 19-21 but there's no material to push marginal growth from almost fused plates that did most of their work in puberty.
he is squinting, first one is absolutely shit light, the second one is very good light
 

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