Male Prime

[Deleted member 6873]

What age is it in your opinion tbh

 

[needsolution]

Depends on person.

 

[Deleted member 275]

21

 

[Deleted member 6873]

21

kanker das ver weg

Depends on person.

true true

 

[Deleted member 10185]

20-23

 

[Warlow]

depends on aging genes. Men like pitt had their prime for 20+ years and chico 8 years

 

[St. Wristcel]

Twenties tbh

 

[Deleted member 6873]

depends on aging genes. Men like pitt had their prime for 20+ years and chico 8 years

Also depends on lifestyle too to a certain degree, but genes mostly.

 

[sensen]

Depends.
Business: early 40s
Explosive sports, other than fighting: 23-25
Combat sports: 30-32
Testosterone (unless you begin working out later in life): 17-20
Sex appeal: 25-35 depending on status plus masculine vs pretty boy aesthetics

 

[Mr.cope]

After college you should be settled and have a wife

 

[lutte]

chads maybe 17-25 normies 20-25 idk

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Depends.
Business: early 40s
Explosive sports, other than fighting: 23-25
Combat sports: 30-32
Testosterone (unless you begin working out later in life): 17-20
Sex appeal: 25-35 depending on status plus masculine vs pretty boy aesthetics

what if you lean more towards prettyboy aesthetics/androgynous side tbh

 

[eduardkoopman]

An elaboration on age.

Male peak is on average 26 - 36 years old. (if he: doesn't go ugly bald(ing), doesn't get fat, doesn't get fucked up skin)

tl;dr:
https://iconicmen.wordpress.com/2013/10/24/smv-is-it-real/

Massive OkCupid study done on Age and SMV decline and peak on Men and Women based on overall desirability. Done in 2015 with both young and older people. Millions of people.

https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2010/02/8.png
https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2015/07/03/ok-cupid-data-on-sex-desirability-and-age/

Aging and desirability of both men and women is something this community gets wrong alot of the time imo. While "the wall" is hyperbole female desirability drops very far very fast after 23-24 and male desirability on average shoots up to about 26-27 where it peaks for a good 10 years, then declines (if the man doesn't get: ugly bald, fat, and/or fucked up skin).

"Attractive 34 year old Guy matched with 18.9% of the women under 27 years old he swiped right on. This is only slightly less than Attractive 26 year old Guy. The average age of these women was 23.7 and the average age of his matches was 24.3. Attractive 34 year old Guy didn’t pay much, if any, penalty for being 10 years older than the average female on Tinder. Apparently for males attractive is attractive at any age. "

AGE BLACKPILL-
Male Prime=26-36

Go lookup "hot men" on google, nearly 75% of results are of men aged in that bracket above. Plenty Chads become higher tier chads in their early-mid 30s before declining.

SOME older guys have higher SMV with age(Chads and Chadlites). Age isn't the crippling factor some blackpill guys make it out to be. It's OVER after 25, crowds. Go look up "Top 100 sexiest men" or "/r/ladyboners" or just google "Hot guys" and the MAJORITY of those guys are in their late twenties to mid thirties. This is because testosterone causes masculinization of the face and voice over your entire lifetime. Meaning your voice and face and still changing(albeit much slower) even in your 20's and 30's.

Age doesn't make much of a difference to women (as it does to us men, visa versa) as long as you're actually attractive.

For example:

See Here - He's in his Thirties.

Perhaps even better this tinder experiment article down below concerning younger vs older attractive men on tinder. Make sure you read and understand the entire article, but in summary a 26 year old attractive guy on tinder pulled tons of foids. A 34 year old attractive guy pulled even more(age ranges, older women have less options) and when factoring for age and setting the 34 year old man to an age range only allowing matches between 18-26 he pulled 3% less of this age range than the 26 year old. See this picture here.

Tinder Experiments

Tinder Experiments II: Guys, unless you are really hot you are probably better off not wasting your time on Tinder — a quantitative socio-economic study

In summary JFL if you aren't attractive, age doesn't matter much only your face.

Look at the way roasties talk about guys like Jared Leto, they would gladly line themselves up, strip down, and allow him to plow them all one by one without a care in the world about his age. The dude is just attractive looking.

Think about how creepy it would be perceived if a 35 year old man were to be flirting with a 19 year old foid in the club. Now picture this 35 year old men flirting with her. Suddenly it went from creepy to A-okay with her, her friends, and everyone else(except bitter old roasties). Hell I bet if you're a loaded 35 year old and look like this you could pull her and her friends. Tell them there'a an after party with booze, movies, a huge TV, a Jacuzzi/Hot-tub, and a pool at your mansion. You get her and her friends and they would prefer you over a guy her own age of equal attractive with less flashy shit. That's a fact. Once guys are of equal attractiveness it comes down to other stuff after that, like status(or the perception there of), and money. You get the picture. Age plays a limited role, it's how you look that matters most/all.


Some graphs. To top it off:

LOVE THIS VIDEO ABOUT AGE, BTW.
RedpillRebellion is imo a Ledgend, sadly he doesn't make much content because he is to bussy being successfull and living life.
I agree with him. That around 30 = peak. A man gotta aim to LOOK like a GOOD LOOKING 30 year old man.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

chads maybe 17-25 normies 20-25 idk

glad to know im almost starting my prime

 

[Deleted member 3635]

what if you lean more towards prettyboy aesthetics/androgynous side tbh

better get married early then lul

 

[Trevor Philips]

21-25. This is when men generally get the most female attention, build up their status, etc. It's the formative years. Massive blackpill is that id you fail these years you are more than likely to fail the next forty years of your life. Looksmax NOW

 

[eduardkoopman]

After college you should be settled and have a wife

If can manage to time travel back to 1950.
In the West, after College most women don't want to be wife and stuff. And women hold the power when it comes to initiation of relationships.

 

[Rabbi]

Assuming you’ve gone through puberty

As long as you have
Hair
Collagen
You are in YOUR prime

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Assuming you’ve gone through puberty

As long as you have
Hair
Collagen
You are in YOUR prime

would puberty be done at 17 tbh

 

[Rabbi]

would puberty be done at 17 tbh

Most of it yea
But frame and ribcage doesn’t stop maturing till like early 20’s

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Most of it yea
But frame and ribcage doesn’t stop maturing till like early 20’s

brootal stuck with manletism + retard face forever

 

[eduardkoopman]

GREAT VIDEO.

About age (of men an women). And different "type" of appeal a man need to have!

Which also makes it difficult to say, what a man his prime is! Because depends on what age group of women, one considers most important. I think it's 18-28 year old women. But it's personal alot preference of a man, alot.

This video is probably quit true. For the WEST world and for like mayority (lets say 60%-70% of females) of women.

 

[Soalian]

Assuming you’ve gone through puberty

As long as you have
Hair
Collagen
You are in YOUR prime

I'd say, when you have all of the above, AND when you're done softmaxxing and surgerymaxxing

 

[redhandsbluehands]

19 to 25 imo

 

[TURBO]

Only old as your hair and collagen....muscle, bone and thyroid.

 

[nonserviam]

There are exeptions like Brad Pitt but mostly it’s 20-25. Than you’ll start losing your physique, hair and collagen.

it’s important to pubertymaxx and gymcel till 19-20, and keep the gains on top in your prime

 

[Deleted member 5349]

25 on average imo, but it depends on your facial features. DOM/high-t looking guys will be appealing to fertile women up until 50 imo. Pretty boys completely expire by 25

 

[Deleted member 6873]

25 on average imo, but it depends on your facial features. DOM/high-t looking guys will be appealing to fertile women up until 50 imo. Pretty boys completely expire by 25

suifuel

 

[JamesHowlett]

Male prime isn’t universal and depends because men lose their hair, collagen and get fat at different ages.

 

[recessed]

GREAT VIDEO.

About age (of men an women). And different "type" of appeal a man need to have!

Which also makes it difficult to say, what a man his prime is! Because depends on what age group of women, one considers most important. I think it's 18-28 year old women. But it's personal alot preference of a man, alot.

This video is probably quit true. For the WEST world and for like mayority (lets say 60%-70% of females) of women.

Man this shit stresses me out. I’m almost 20 and Ive never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, none of that. And when you say I’ve missed out, you’re right. And I feel it every day. It keeps me up at night. I just don’t know what to do about it. I wasn’t blessed with great genetics. I have an average to below average face, I’m 5’8, and I don’t have great social skills. I’ve tried tinder but I don’t have any good photos of myself (mainly because I hate my appearance), and I got very few matches. The ones I did get either didn’t reply or clearly indicated that they weren’t really interested. I’ve tried asking girls out in person but have been rejected every time. I know that time is running out but I don’t even know what else to try

 

[eduardkoopman]

Man this shit stresses me out. I’m almost 20 and Ive never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, none of that. And when you say I’ve missed out, you’re right. And I feel it every day. It keeps me up at night. I just don’t know what to do about it. I wasn’t blessed with great genetics. I have an average to below average face, I’m 5’8, and I don’t have great social skills. I’ve tried tinder but I don’t have any good photos of myself (mainly because I hate my appearance), and I got very few matches. The ones I did get either didn’t reply or clearly indicated that they weren’t really interested. I’ve tried asking girls out in person but have been rejected every time. I know that time is running out but I don’t even know what else to try

CBP is right though. ONCE you missed out, you can't regain it in general.

I'm mid 30's now.

I missed out on teen love (14-19). I will never have that. And it's not the same, even if I were to get it. Bein a teenage dude with a hot and cute teenage gf, is just an hormonal high you can never replicate later on when you are older.
I missed out on that one. Because my looks not that good and I was very shy back then and haveing stupid bluepilled idea from upbringing that it's all about betabuxxing anyways. And also not good status, cool, factor.
I will never know that 1st time, teen love thingy. I can't catch up with that. Because a relationship with a woman in her 20's and upwards is different from teen "love".

WHAT CAN ONE DO?
Nothing more than trying, and doing ones best. To not miss out on it. It's not easy though, with lookslevels that are PSL 3 ranges as you describe yourself.


I was incel untill mid 20's. Because PSL 3 to 3.5 looks ranges. First probably about 200 rejections, before lost my v card. Due to looks level, which was unforgaving towards having bad/average "game" plus an age range where women are at peak.
Looking back, when I was 14-18, I probably had a better chance of getting with a girl, than from 19-25. But I was unfortunately passive in 14-18. Becausewomen at 19-25, had standards I could not meet, while when I was 14-18 girls at least had a bit lower standards overall.

Luckily I did manage to get some lays/flingsfrom mid-later 20's and then started first LTR.

Personally:
* I failed at the teen love (14-18) thing
* I almost failed completely at the (19-25) age group, but managed to catch it a bit with alot of effort. Currently maybe I can still do wellish in theis age group, since I like better now than when I was in my 20's. I have to see and test.
* I think if nothing bad happens to my looks, I will be doing decently in the 26 - 36 year old group. Defenately after 30, since I mogg 80+% in looks. I get sometimes interest from women in this age bracket and they come up to me. But they are not the types, I find interesting because they often looks worse than me or have big baggage (that I don't have) so not a good option.

 

[6’1cel]

What age is it in your opinion tbh

15-20 for prettyboys 21-30 for doms

 

[Deleted member 4106]

20 years in general.
For pretty boys aged 15 to 22.
For normies from 18 to 25.
For dom from 17 to 30, however the dom can keep for decades.