Males still look like kids in their 20s

i don't mean that women mature slower, moreso that late teens like 17 and 20 for girls don't look much different from each other due to neoteny and foids completing puberty earlier, whereas a guy at 20 something vs 17 will be taller, more facial hair, will complete devoloping his masc dimorphic traits etc outisde of late bloomers.
that being drinking, tanning or partying, makeup etc might make a foid look more busted/old than the guys at same ages but i don't really take non-natural factors as serious, i would rather compare shut ins.

what i'm saying is foids complete a lot of their critical devolopment at late teens already
I guess it just depends on how you look at it. If one think early 20's women look like teens because women already look like fully developed adults at around 18 vs. thinking men still look like teens because they still don't look fully developed by their 20's

Perhaps it would be better to specify with the terms adolescent and teen. With the latter specifying more so a set set of numbers whilst adolescent a period in development. Early 20's women can pass as teens but rarely ever pass as being adolescent. Whilst early 20's men can still sometimes look a bit adolescent but are clearly very distinct from males who are specifically teenaged

An explanation for why the both of these conclusions can be made
 
This is why women like older men
I really do think there are a lot of endocrine disruptions in our environment. Just look at a year book from the 1970s vs today they look 4 years older.

One of my cousins lived in Korea for a year and she said her cup size shrunk in korea and then she regained the size in 3 months in the US. So 100% some high estrogen content in our diets.
 
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I guess it just depends on how you look at it. If one think early 20's women look like teens because women already look like fully developed adults at around 18 vs. thinking men still look like teens because they still don't look fully developed by their 20's

Perhaps it would be better to specify with the terms adolescent and teen. With the latter specifying more so a set set of numbers whilst adolescent a period in development. Early 20's women can pass as teens but rarely ever pass as being adolescent. Whilst early 20's men can still sometimes look a bit adolescent but are clearly very distinct from males who are specifically teenaged

An explanation for why the both of these conclusions can be made
i don't really think men look like adolescents in 20s while women look adults outside of makeup, it's moreso that general beauty standards prioritize youth and pureness for women, whereas they prioritize looking more rugged for men, so your judgment is clouded by it based on how a mature male or female looks being different.
 
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I really do think there are a lot of endocrine disruptions in our environment. Just look at a year book from the 1970s vs today they look 4 years older.

One of my cousins lived in Korea for a year and she said her cup size shrunk in korea and then she regained the size in 3 months in the US. So 100% some high estrogen content in our diets.
women liking older men was more common in 70s and 90s than it was nowadays though, mils used to bitch about high school girls dating 30 year olds whereas this is very rare nowadays, and gets judged heavily when it happens.

i do agree people hit puberty earlier however, that applies to the males too tbh.
 
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i don't really think men look like adolescents in 20s while women look adults outside of makeup, it's moreso that general beauty standards prioritize youth and pureness for women, whereas they prioritize looking more rugged for men, so your judgment is clouded by it based on how a mature male or female looks being different.
women liking older men was more common in 70s and 90s than it was nowadays though, mils used to bitch about high school girls dating 30 year olds whereas this is very rare nowadays, and gets judged heavily when it happens.

i do agree people hit puberty earlier however, that applies to the males too tbh.
Did you mean to say women look adolescent outside of makeup? I don't really think that's the case but ignoring any personal observations there are biological reasons to believe so (offsets in puberty and the fact men don't really finish developing until their mid 20's). Whilst social constructs have kind of exacerbated this (especially in the past as you have mentioned and in media) they aren't entirely founded out of nowhere. I wouldn't really say my judgement is clouded. I think men hit the wall at 25 and only have a later peak by about 2-4 years, a conclusion that isn't pulled solely out of personal preference nor one that is influenced by societal standards. It's a conclusion mostly found when taking human development into consideration
 
yeha. me looking like bald oldcel in 19 really helped me....

dumbass
 
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honestly younger men with older women might actually normalize in this era, but who knows
Cameron Porras (24) with his girlfriend (33)
 
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Did you mean to say women look adolescent outside of makeup? I don't really think that's the case but ignoring any personal observations there are biological reasons to believe so (offsets in puberty and the fact men don't really finish developing until their mid 20's). Whilst social constructs have kind of exacerbated this (especially in the past as you have mentioned and in media) they aren't entirely founded out of nowhere. I wouldn't really say my judgement is clouded. I think men hit the wall at 25 and only have a later peak by about 2-4 years, a conclusion that isn't pulled solely out of personal preference nor one that is influenced by societal standards. It's a conclusion mostly found when taking human development into consideration
Cameron Porras (24) with his girlfriend (33)
 
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I'd make a joke that Shan looks like an oldcel and Cameron still looks like he can pass for late adolescence but it's a bit unfair to compare 24 and 33 as that's nearly a whole decade. It is at least an example of early adult males still looking rather young/youthful

Jokes aside good for them. It's nice to see the trend broken
 
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I'd make a joke that Shan looks like an oldcel and Cameron still looks like he can pass for late adolescence but it's a bit unfair to compare 24 and 33 as that's nearly a whole decade. It is at least an example of early adult males still looking rather young/youthful

Jokes aside good for them. It's nice to see the trend broken
i can tell hes still 20s

long midface failo on her
 
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