Many guys, especially gymcel beginners are overeating protein and undereating fat

[NW3Slayer]

A guy that weighs 70kg needs 140g of protein and 160g max.

Now many guys have 3 protein shakes a day which is 100g of powder and 80g of pure protein.

They will have maybe 200g chicken breast with another 40g of protein.

4 eggs with 25g

And 100g cheese with 30g.


This are already 175g.


And now don't forget most of the carbs you eat like bread, oats, beans etc also have a bit of protein so you will end up with over 200g of protein although you needed 140, max 160.

The additional protein will not build additional muscle, you will just process it and fart all day and night.


The opposite happens with fats. Many gymcels barely consume fats cause they try to eat lean on fats to not get fat but exactly that cucks them.

Your body needs 1g of fat per 1kg, so at least 70g of fats.

If you undereat fats as a natural your testosterone production is limited, that is one of the main reasons why guys on strict diets are giga low T.

Make sure to always eat your fats, for example take salmon or Beef instead of chicken breast and have 30g-50g of almonds every day or an avocado.

@SoundnVision
@Bipolar2Cel
@Nardicus101
@ReadBooksEveryday

 

[fallen442]

mirin the effort

 

[sonic55555]

you think that matters? oh my poor sweet innocent nattycel

all that matters is your steroid stack my dear

 

[NW3Slayer]

you think that matters? oh my poor sweet innocent nattycel

all that matters is your steroid stack my dear

Sure when you arent natural everything changes.

The vast majority is still natty though

 

[sonic55555]

Sure when you arent natural everything changes.

The vast majority is still natty though

i suppose you have a point there

 

[oliver.is.sigma]

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A guy that weighs 70kg needs 140g of protein and 160g max.

Now many guys have 3 protein shakes a day which is 100g of powder and 80g of pure protein.

They will have maybe 200g chicken breast with another 40g of protein.

4 eggs with 25g

And 100g cheese with 30g.


This are already 175g.


And now don't forget most of the carbs you eat like bread, oats, beans etc also have a bit of protein so you will end up with over 200g of protein although you needed 140, max 160.

The additional protein will not build additional muscle, you will just process it and fart all day and night.


The opposite happens with fats. Many gymcels barely consume fats cause they try to eat lean on fats to not get fat but exactly that cucks them.

Your body needs 1g of fat per 1kg, so at least 70g of fats.

If you undereat fats as a natural your testosterone production is limited, that is one of the main reasons why guys on strict diets are giga low T.

Make sure to always eat your fats, for example take salmon or Beef instead of chicken breast and have 30g-50g of almonds every day or an avocado.

@SoundnVision
@Bipolar2Cel
@Nardicus101
@ReadBooksEveryday

why tf do u think they are manlets who smell like india

 

[oliver.is.sigma]

Sure when you arent natural everything changes.

The vast majority

i suppose you have a point there

Sure when you arent natural everything changes.

The vast majority is still natty though

and thats also why they stay "average" for the normal foid

 

[Yliaster]

Gym is also soo much more expensive/time consuming than people highlight, especially as a Natty
its a second Job

 

[ICL]

F

you think that matters? oh my poor sweet innocent nattycel

all that matters is your steroid stack my dear

Food is still crucial?

Why don't you go ahead and eat a lot of plants while on cycle jfl

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Most "you need this much protein" is garbage promoted by supplement companies or guys coping thinking it will magically make them as big as their favourite fake natty influencer also promoting protein powders etc, when the only reason that guy is big is roids not protein powders lmfao, but normies want to cope the powder is what will make them look like that eventually. It is all copes-based lmfao, only one who could possibly need massive amounts of protein is some elite athlete or bodybuilder on tons of roids. Normal guys can't even use it.

Also if you care about fats you should eat lots of saturated (animal) fats not lots of peasant seeds and seed oils imo, much better.

Personally I just eat tons of meat + animal foods always so I know it is impossible for me to not be getting all protein I need, plus all the trace amino acid compounds that only exist in meat that also make up high concentrations in muscle tissue, which is even better than protein powders overall net whole. Protein powder is only good if you eat some utter trash diet low in animal protein otherwise or a typical carbohydrates/peasant seed slop based diet.

 

[sonic55555]

F

Food is still crucial?

Why don't you go ahead and eat a lot of plants while on cycle jfl

Yahhh true true. im just saying, even with a perfect diet you wont get very far as a natty.. js

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Gym is also soo much more expensive/time consuming than people highlight, especially as a Natty
its a second Job

Not really lol? Not if you train smart. A lot of people do tons of junk volume, unnecessarily high frequencies for little to no extra gains then just burn out eventually and become fat and out of shape again. I only workout 2x a week LOL and I even do isolation for every single body part. People are coping hard with this too thinking you must do huge amounts of gymcelling to look remotely decent, so they feel they got an excuse to stay fat and/or out of shape.

 

[SoundnVision]

The biggest thing that limits gains is fapping
And no sleeping and eating enough

 

[coastal]

A guy that weighs 70kg needs 140g of protein and 160g max.

Now many guys have 3 protein shakes a day which is 100g of powder and 80g of pure protein.

They will have maybe 200g chicken breast with another 40g of protein.

4 eggs with 25g

And 100g cheese with 30g.


This are already 175g.


And now don't forget most of the carbs you eat like bread, oats, beans etc also have a bit of protein so you will end up with over 200g of protein although you needed 140, max 160.

The additional protein will not build additional muscle, you will just process it and fart all day and night.


The opposite happens with fats. Many gymcels barely consume fats cause they try to eat lean on fats to not get fat but exactly that cucks them.

Your body needs 1g of fat per 1kg, so at least 70g of fats.

If you undereat fats as a natural your testosterone production is limited, that is one of the main reasons why guys on strict diets are giga low T.

Make sure to always eat your fats, for example take salmon or Beef instead of chicken breast and have 30g-50g of almonds every day or an avocado.

@SoundnVision
@Bipolar2Cel
@Nardicus101
@ReadBooksEveryday

that couldve been a good thread if you advised people to eat a lot of saturated animal fats. eating fuckass avocados or almonds wont give you the optimal fats. just eat 100g of raw butter every day either by adding it to your meals or via the lube formula

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Yahhh true true. im just saying, even with a perfect diet you wont get very far as a natty.. js

This is true when your goal is to look like some guy on roids lol, there is tons of coping by natties about X and Y secrets making them look like their fake natty influencer on roids without roids lol, all cope.

 

[sonic55555]

This is true when your goal is to look like some guy on roids lol, there is tons of coping by natties about X and Y secrets making them look like their fake natty influencer on roids without roids lol, all cope.

Yes sir this is been known. natty training is peak retardation

 

[NW3Slayer]

Not really lol? Not if you train smart. A lot of people do tons of junk volume, unnecessarily high frequencies for little to no extra gains then just burn out eventually and become fat and out of shape again. I only workout 2x a week LOL and I even do isolation for every single body part. People are coping hard with this too thinking you must do huge amounts of gymcelling to look remotely decent, so they feel they got an excuse to stay fat and/or out of shape.

I guess he means also the planning of your meals, preparation of it, buying it in the stores etc

The gymcelling in the gym itself isnt much but actually i agree with him that the execution of doing everything to get the gymcel body is pretty high effort and you also have to think a lot about it to not miss something etc


When you are injecting its even worse, always making sure you got your roids, syringes, AI, getting the bloodwork etc etc



The ideal would be to eat whatever you want to and still get a lean muscular body but that wont work for me cause i d just eat goyslop everyday hahaha. Chips, pizza plus cola and jerk off to porn like the degen that i am

 

[Yliaster]

Most "you need this much protein" is garbage promoted by supplement companies or guys coping thinking it will magically make them as big as their favourite fake natty influencer also promoting protein powders etc, when the only reason that guy is big is roids not protein powders lmfao, but normies want to cope the powder is what will make them look like that eventually. It is all copes-based lmfao, only one who could possibly need massive amounts of protein is some elite athlete or bodybuilder on tons of roids. Normal guys can't even use it.

Also if you care about fats you should eat lots of saturated (animal) fats not lots of peasant seeds and seed oils imo, much better.

Personally I just eat tons of meat + animal foods always so I know it is impossible for me to not be getting all protein I need, plus all the trace amino acid compounds that only exist in meat that also make up high concentrations in muscle tissue, which is even better than protein powders overall net whole. Protein powder is only good if you eat some utter trash diet low in animal protein otherwise or a typical carbohydrates/peasant seed slop based diet.

Yeah facts

Most of us actually wish we had the time to prepare proper meals like Animal/Fats etc like you're describing
but is time consuming to do on a consistent basis.

Do you Cook that stuff yourself btw ?

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Yes sir this is been known. natty training is peak retardation

Not really, you can still have a nice sexy body as natty and look way better than average. Women value face, height and HAIR more than extra roid muscles anyway. Especially young hot babes, everyone have told me they find the bald roidcel look disgusting.

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Not really, you can still have a nice sexy body as natty and look way better than average. Women value face, height and HAIR more than extra roid muscles anyway. Especially young hot babes, everyone have told me they find the bald roidcel look disgusting.

One woman even told me "Nooo, why do you go to the gym and work out?? Don't you know all the ones with big muscles go bald there??", like she was worried I would go bald from working out.

 

[BigBallsLarry]

This is why i always eat red meat and never chicken breast slop. Naturally high in fats and high in protein.

I also eat a lot of wild boar bacon for fats.