Many users here don't realize how unrealistic "ascension" is in terms of money & time.

[Mongrelcel]

To start off, let's define "ascension" as "improvement of looks great enough to cause people to treat you differently, therefore attaining a new life aka ascending"

Obviously, this is not possible with one single procedure. Multiple are required.

How many depends on each persons individual case, but it's not going to be less than 20 or 30k. Just a bimax alone is 10 or 15, combine that with some implant, maybe a hair transplant to fix wonky hairline etc.. You will get that number easily.

How the fuck will a young person save up 20k? That would mean having a job that leaves you with excess income after each month (without degree difficult, how are you going to find a well paying job? without education or experience?) and then wageslaving at said job for a loong period of time. Literally years.

But those years are your prime. Assuming you're young, 18 or 20. You need to get surgeries ASAP, to still be able to get something from your youth - that's why you're doing it in the first place.
How long is that going to take? Then you have to add the time you need to actually get all the procedures & recover from them.

Time to even get a job (might be the longest period btw) + time you actually are saving up + time you need to get the procedures & recover.

When you look at things this way, crazy expensive looksmaxing plans are not realistic, because for each additional proceudre you're losing a fuck ton of time.

Are you willing to sacrifice a year of your life to get an implant? Is that worth it?

So what this all basically means is that if you're not born with a very good base, you're pretty much fucked tbh.
Ugly = can't enjoy youth
Wageslaving = can't enjoy youth

So you basically need to somehow come up with around 20k, or spend years of your prime rotting wageslaving (while your social skills and worldview worsen btw)

 

[Deleted member 10104]

take out all the loans you can and ascend and enjoy your youth and figure it all out when you get old tbh

 

[Mongrelcel]

take out all the loans you can and ascend and enjoy your youth and figure it all out when you get old tbh

Yes, a loan is a great idea, but not one that you can't pay off

Are you going to start wageslaving when you're ascended? That makes even less sense

 

[Deleted member 14323]

Good read, I agree. But it’s still nice to have goals. If that’s what keeps people from roping so be it. Hope this helps

 

[dnrd]

Yes, a loan is a great idea, but not one that you can't pay off

Are you going to start wageslaving when you're ascended? That makes even less sense

not really actually you might be able to get better jobs once ur ascended

 

[fukmylyf]

less is more unless ur a deformed cunt. If ur still a teenager u should focus on softmaxxing anyway

 

[Mongrelcel]

Good read, I agree. But it’s still nice to have goals. If that’s what keeps people from roping so be it. Hope this helps

goals you will most likely not achieve, I haven't even touched upon the fact that putting in a consistent amount of hard work, for years, with no end in sight, while your life is shit and you're depressed as fuck is practically impossible. You as an incel have no support structures for this, and you don't have the mental infrastructure either.

 

[Mongrelcel]

less is more unless ur a deformed cunt. If ur still a teenager u should focus on softmaxxing anyway

softmaxxing is a meme, tf does that even mean

lose fat/gain muscle & get a haircut? Who hasn't done that yet?

 

[JosephGarrot123]

Yea it's pretty overlooked. It really depends on your family's income. That's why I'm trying to get my insurance to cover my bimax to fix my vertically deficient maxilla. Then get some implants. Then move on since I already have a good genetic cranial base to ascend. It's over for subhumans that are poorcels though. Unless they discover the blackpill early. Depends on where they live also. So basically this depends if your parents/older siblings can help you with financing for this surgery. If you're poor, alone and subhuman it's pretty much over for your youth.

 

[rockndogs]

This should be in the looksmaxxing section. Too many words. Readn't

 

[Deleted member 6403]

Anyone can become Chad. You don't need surgeries

 

[JosephGarrot123]

Anyone can become Chad. You don't need surgeries

how do i become chad

 

[Deleted member 13994]

only need rhino if i need that which is like 15k most. i can earn that in a year when i leave highschool

 

[mulattomaxxer]

If you can live at home AND live in the west you should be able to save up enough money to purchase and expensive surgery. 20k in a year of wagecelling is realistic.

Also people talk about life like it ends when your 30. You can still fuck good looking women if you ascend later in life. Collagen maxx and you can larp being younger.

It also depends on how subhuman your base is. If your base is subhuman to the point where you suffer severe bullying due to your looks. Its going to be extremely difficult to recover.

 

[Mongrelcel]

Collagen maxx

"collagenmaxxing" is a meme, there is no way you can actually influence your levels of collagen

its purely genetic & based on youth

you might as well go watch subliminals for collagen

 

[coolguy1]

dnrd everything but if ur recessed only one surgery (jaw surgery) can ascend u

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

depends on what you need and how expensive surgery is where you live + wageslaving opportunities where you live

 

[Mongrelcel]

dnrd everything but if ur recessed only one surgery (jaw surgery) can ascend u

to fix a garage lower third you will need both a bimax and a small wraparound after that for ideal shape (to match the rest of your face perfectly)

thats a lot of cash

 

[DesperadoRatado]

Ascension is a bluepilled concept.

I probably will never get a single surgery done whether I want it or not. Circumstances have fucked me over career wise.

 

[coolguy1]

to fix a garage lower third you will need both a bimax and a small wraparound after that for ideal shape (to match the rest of your face perfectly)

thats a lot of cash

Bimax can be enough and that usually get insured if ur jaw is shit enough, except if u live in the usa jfl

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

Dunno bro already got 20k after a year of work

 

[chaddyboi66]

To start off, let's define "ascension" as "improvement of looks great enough to cause people to treat you differently, therefore attaining a new life aka ascending"

Obviously, this is not possible with one single procedure. Multiple are required.

How many depends on each persons individual case, but it's not going to be less than 20 or 30k. Just a bimax alone is 10 or 15, combine that with some implant, maybe a hair transplant to fix wonky hairline etc.. You will get that number easily.

How the fuck will a young person save up 20k? That would mean having a job that leaves you with excess income after each month (without degree difficult, how are you going to find a well paying job? without education or experience?) and then wageslaving at said job for a loong period of time. Literally years.

But those years are your prime. Assuming you're young, 18 or 20. You need to get surgeries ASAP, to still be able to get something from your youth - that's why you're doing it in the first place.
How long is that going to take? Then you have to add the time you need to actually get all the procedures & recover from them.

Time to even get a job (might be the longest period btw) + time you actually are saving up + time you need to get the procedures & recover.

When you look at things this way, crazy expensive looksmaxing plans are not realistic, because for each additional proceudre you're losing a fuck ton of time.

Are you willing to sacrifice a year of your life to get an implant? Is that worth it?

So what this all basically means is that if you're not born with a very good base, you're pretty much fucked tbh.
Ugly = can't enjoy youth
Wageslaving = can't enjoy youth

So you basically need to somehow come up with around 20k, or spend years of your prime rotting wageslaving (while your social skills and worldview worsen btw)

take out all the loans you can and ascend and enjoy your youth and figure it all out when you get old tbh

this is why money and success section exists yet most gigarotters here are marooned on off-topic tbh

Moneymaking & Success

Learn more about how to get ahead in life: Lifestyle, success, power and making money.

looksmax.org

 

[mulattomaxxer]

"collagenmaxxing" is a meme, there is no way you can actually influence your levels of collagen

its purely genetic & based on youth

you might as well go watch subliminals for collagen

Say what you want but you can definetly preserve your youth. Genetics matter but I know people that look like shit now due to poor diet, photoaging and poor lifestyle choices. Most of my peers are in their early 20s for reference.

 

[Mongrelcel]

Say what you want but you can definetly preserve your youth. Genetics matter but I know people that look like shit now due to poor diet, photoaging and poor lifestyle choices. Most of my peers are in their early 20s for reference.

sure you can ruin your looks, but improve? nah

 

[mulattomaxxer]

sure you can ruin your looks, but improve? nah

True, once your collagen has gone it isn't coming back. Botox can help but its a bandaid fix.

 

[oldcelloser]

good post man but its extremely complicated ; heres why
life DOESNT end at 25 like this forum would want you to believe and no you dont ACTUALLY need to look like prime Chico or prime Barret to get a hot foid, nor is it actually true that you cannot get sloots at 35-40 whatever
i have seen it so many times IRL, decent looking/ finances in men after 30 with hot sloots, and im convinced that life ends at 50 actually cause yr looks will be shit afterwards no matter what you do
so it depends on yr GOALS in life, do you want LTR , do you want to slay forever, are you a supremacist as a huwhite man ,cause if you're not you can date SEA foids 20 yr younger no pb provided you have decent looks
are you located/willing to relocate to Ibiza/ Vegas/Miami ? Thailand for party/ hot sloot opportunities ? or are you in the middle of Nebraska with 2 shit fat sloots available for you to date
can you do/ dont care if you escort maxx from time to time etc.
theres so many variables im tellin you

 

[Mongrelcel]

life DOESNT end at 25 like this forum would want you to believe

it kinda does in a way tho - a certain chapter in life ends around 25
after 25 you cannot larp as a uni student anymore, if you do not manage to have that "uni experience" that everyone here wants so much, you will never get it

after uni ends, the opportunities to socialize thin rapidly, you will never be on campus and literally live with other people you age in a student housing

you dont ACTUALLY need to look like prime Chico or prime Barret to get a hot foid

well you need to have enough VALUE - it doesn't matter whether its made up from mostly looks or social status, or being extremely NT, funny or sociable

But you do need to have the value however you can achieve it - but autists here (me included) will never be that socially skilled to have that make up their value, so we hope that by increasing looks, people will overlook the fact we are abused dogs mentally

nor is it actually true that you cannot get sloots at 35-40 whatever

I doubt that you can - absolute vast majority of relationships happen with a tiny age difference
the "old man slays 20 something women" is a redpill pipe dream

you will never even meet them, never will have the opportunity to socialize as an old mf with young women

so it depends on yr GOALS in life

I want to have a large social circle, I want to do classic HS/UNI shit since I never got to do that
I want to get invited to parties, to hang out
I want people to see me as an equal, as someone worthy to be in a normal place in the social hierarchy and not some bottom feeder loser

 

[Osteogenesis]

Looks are important your whole life

 

[Deleted member 4106]

But not everyone needs surgery to ascend

 

[thecel]

Once I monetize my YouTube channel, Turbo Blackpill, I’ll put its ad revenue in an incel-oriented charity organization that I’ll run.

The Subhuman Ascension Foundation is coming!

 

[Deleted member 7901]

lose fat/gain muscle & get a haircut? Who hasn't done that yet?

you might be surprised

 

[Uglybrazilian]

Most legit way for ascension is literally crime, crime in Brazil is 90% composed of young niggas who have no girls, no status and are ugly and thus go criminal to get money fast so they can enjoy their youth(if they dont get killed). They simply know its impossible to make good money fast when you are young and poor, so they need to take action.

Its the same problem most looksmaxxers face...we dont have enough money to ascend in the short run, unfortunately most of us are too low T to go criminal which is LITERALLY the ONLY reasonable way a young and poor person has to make 30k in a year or something.

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

my plan is waiitng for my 20 dollars of bitcoin to 2000x

 

[lutte]

just ldar and do meth

 

[AbuSAF]

just ldar and do meth

 

[lutte]

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[AbuSAF]

whats this

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[SAR]

Once I monetize my YouTube channel, Turbo Blackpill, I’ll put its ad revenue in an incel-oriented charity organization that I’ll run.

The Subhuman Ascension Foundation is coming!

Lol, I subsribed

 

[Deleted member 3593]

Meh money isn’t really the issue, work a couple 6-8 hour shifts throughout highschool - college and you can put together 30k in the states easily, maybe a little more ofc u

the real blackpill is that you won’t ascend unless you have a serious Failo that can be fixed. If you have average features u can’t ascend.

 

[Mongrelcel]

Meh money isn’t really the issue, work early weekends throughout highschool - college and you can put together 30k in the states.

the real blackpill is that you won’t ascend unless you have a serious Failo that can be fixed. If you have average features u can’t ascend.

yeah in the states

 

[MikeMew'sBitch]

Imagine living in Balkans where even doctors earn like only 900$/month Good luck ascending as a clothes store salesman /car mechanic / warehouse worker

 

[stewiegriffin]

get a job that pays 50-100k a year and just live at home with ur parents. not that hard. unless ur still in high school I don't see the issue

 

[Alexanderr]

To start off, let's define "ascension" as "improvement of looks great enough to cause people to treat you differently, therefore attaining a new life aka ascending"

Obviously, this is not possible with one single procedure. Multiple are required.

How many depends on each persons individual case, but it's not going to be less than 20 or 30k. Just a bimax alone is 10 or 15, combine that with some implant, maybe a hair transplant to fix wonky hairline etc.. You will get that number easily.

How the fuck will a young person save up 20k? That would mean having a job that leaves you with excess income after each month (without degree difficult, how are you going to find a well paying job? without education or experience?) and then wageslaving at said job for a loong period of time. Literally years.

But those years are your prime. Assuming you're young, 18 or 20. You need to get surgeries ASAP, to still be able to get something from your youth - that's why you're doing it in the first place.
How long is that going to take? Then you have to add the time you need to actually get all the procedures & recover from them.

Time to even get a job (might be the longest period btw) + time you actually are saving up + time you need to get the procedures & recover.

When you look at things this way, crazy expensive looksmaxing plans are not realistic, because for each additional proceudre you're losing a fuck ton of time.

Are you willing to sacrifice a year of your life to get an implant? Is that worth it?

So what this all basically means is that if you're not born with a very good base, you're pretty much fucked tbh.
Ugly = can't enjoy youth
Wageslaving = can't enjoy youth

So you basically need to somehow come up with around 20k, or spend years of your prime rotting wageslaving (while your social skills and worldview worsen btw)

It essentially means, money is everything.

Money not only gives you the ability to get the procedures rather easily it also gives you the freedom to decide what you can spend your time on. You could easily take a break from studying (or quit your job) if you were financially well off.

Problem being most here are not and it’s very time consuming (decades of saving & investing) to get into this privileged position if you weren’t born into it or have a high paying job.

This is why you should minimize your amount of surgical procedures, their cost (but don’t concede too much quality), gradually get them over an extended period of time, budget and simultaneously try to amass several sources of income, passive income and investing a significant portion of said income.

 

[Alexanderr]

good post man but its extremely complicated ; heres why
life DOESNT end at 25 like this forum would want you to believe and no you dont ACTUALLY need to look like prime Chico or prime Barret to get a hot foid, nor is it actually true that you cannot get sloots at 35-40 whatever
i have seen it so many times IRL, decent looking/ finances in men after 30 with hot sloots, and im convinced that life ends at 50 actually cause yr looks will be shit afterwards no matter what you do
so it depends on yr GOALS in life, do you want LTR , do you want to slay forever, are you a supremacist as a huwhite man ,cause if you're not you can date SEA foids 20 yr younger no pb provided you have decent looks
are you located/willing to relocate to Ibiza/ Vegas/Miami ? Thailand for party/ hot sloot opportunities ? or are you in the middle of Nebraska with 2 shit fat sloots available for you to date
can you do/ dont care if you escort maxx from time to time etc.
theres so many variables im tellin you

Another thing that’s true, people here have an extremely short time horizon and think your life ends after your mid twenties.

 

[Deleted member 7224]

Another thing that’s true, people here have an extremely short time horizon and think your life ends after your mid twenties.

@Alexanderr random question. can you delete users account or I need to wait 7 days. thanks.

 

[Mongrelcel]

get a job that pays 50-100k a year and just live at home with ur parents. not that hard. unless ur still in high school I don't see the issue

retarded american

 

[stewiegriffin]

retarded american

JFL at not being American

 

[Marsiere214]

Cope+Dnrd

 

[Eduardo DOV]

Most legit way for ascension is literally crime, crime in Brazil is 90% composed of young niggas who have no girls, no status and are ugly and thus go criminal to get money fast so they can enjoy their youth(if they dont get killed). They simply know its impossible to make good money fast when you are young and poor, so they need to take action.

Its the same problem most looksmaxxers face...we dont have enough money to ascend in the short run, unfortunately most of us are too low T to go criminal which is LITERALLY the ONLY reasonable way a young and poor person has to make 30k in a year or something.

lol
if you have a decent iq, patient and a computer its not jfl
just become a programmer and in 3 years maxx you are doing it
also what some low inhib mofo could do is go to the usa and do hard work, then go back to his country where the currencie is more

Also, what looksmaxxer could do is go to giant implants. he is much cheaper

so many options

 

[Eduardo DOV]

JFL at not being American

THIS

jfl, to the average american to solve this problem, they just go to the mcdonalds and earn 4k usd a month, then they go to some cheaper country and have everything done.