Mark 4:10-12 proves Jesus was a evil person

[ngannou]

but why such thing as old and new if i may ask?

Because the history was divided between Jesus Christ. B.C (Before Christ)

A.D(After Domini). The prophecies and histories , revelations before Christ is called the Old testament and after is the New Testament

 

[takethewhitepill]

I advise you to read it in its entirety

He basically intended to mislead others thru his parables so that they don't repent and be forgiven

I think you misunderstand what he means by lest they turn and be forgiven, he's not saying he made it so they cannot but rather they will never truly understand beyond what is obvious and apparent unless they turn to him

 

[yandex99]

I think you misunderstand what he means by lest they turn and be forgiven, he's not saying he made it so they cannot but rather they will never truly understand beyond what is obvious and apparent unless they turn to him

Thr word in Greek is otherwise

Also your Jesus said he'd make David's wives commit adultery before David repented

He also says he'll rape many times in the old testament you can look up the wonderful work of scholar scholz "rape in the Bible"

 

[Gengar]

Conspiracy theorist final boss, wtf is this point

This nigga thinks we worship the kaaba

The kaaba was built by Abraham for worship to one god, and one god alone

After, the Kaaba had been corrupted by the polytheistic Arabs who placed hundreds of idols inside and around it. The mission of Prophet Muhammad included cleansing the Kaaba of these idols and restoring it to its original Abrahamic purpose of pure monotheism. To claim it is a pagan symbol ignores this entire history.

Tefillin are small black leather boxes containing verses from the Torah, which observant Jewish men strap to their arm and head during weekday morning prayers. They are religious objects used in fulfillment of a commandment, not objects of worship. They are not cubes; they are box-shaped and their shape is religiously prescribed, not symbolic of Saturn or anything else.

Nigga thinks they’re the same cuz theyre black cubes

Not only are you a schizophrenic, youre also ASS at maths

6 sides, 6 triangles, 6 area": This is mathematically and geometrically nonsensical.

• A cube has 6 sides. That's correct. Well done, you’ve got the iq of a 5 year old.
• It does not have 6 triangles. A cube has 12 edges and 8 vertices. To get triangles, you must subjectively impose a geometric pattern onto it (like drawing a star tetrahedron inside it). This is not an inherent property of the cube.
• "6 area" is meaningless. Area is measured in square units (e.g., 6 square meters). A cube's surface area is 6 * (side length)^2. The number 6 is a function of it having six faces, not an esoteric code. The volume is (side length)^3. There is no inherent "6" in its area or volume unless you choose a specific side length to make it fit.

Finally, Quoting Acts 7:43 is a complete misuse of the Bible. That verse is Stephen condemning the ancient Israelites for idolatry in the wilderness. It has zero connection to Islam, which didn't exist for another 600 years, or to modern Judaism. You are taking a historical condemnation out of context to slander two major world religions.

@Gengar rate this debunking

I'll read it later but dang why are you debating with delusional christcucks? They are filled with hatred and don't speak the truth.

 

[Ghoulish]

Even Mormons claim they are the correction of the Old Testament and New Testament.

Trust me bro it is butchered and no longer available!

Youre not making a point bro


Truuust me bro it hasn’t been changed from hundreds of years of oral transmission by illiterate peasants brooo even tho the oldest manuscript is a couple thousand years after Moses’ time and the oldest New Testament manuscript we have is the codex sinaticus which has entire parts missing it’s not changed broooo

 

[ngannou]

Youre not making a point bro


Truuust me bro it hasn’t been changed from hundreds of years of oral transmission by illiterate peasants brooo even tho the oldest manuscript is a couple thousand years after Moses’ time and the oldest New Testament manuscript we have is the codex sinaticus which has entire parts missing it’s not changed broooo

There is no proof of change, look at dead sea scrolls it is the same.

 

[ngannou]

Conspiracy theorist final boss, wtf is this point

This nigga thinks we worship the kaaba

The kaaba was built by Abraham for worship to one god, and one god alone

After, the Kaaba had been corrupted by the polytheistic Arabs who placed hundreds of idols inside and around it. The mission of Prophet Muhammad included cleansing the Kaaba of these idols and restoring it to its original Abrahamic purpose of pure monotheism. To claim it is a pagan symbol ignores this entire history.

Tefillin are small black leather boxes containing verses from the Torah, which observant Jewish men strap to their arm and head during weekday morning prayers. They are religious objects used in fulfillment of a commandment, not objects of worship. They are not cubes; they are box-shaped and their shape is religiously prescribed, not symbolic of Saturn or anything else.

Nigga thinks they’re the same cuz theyre black cubes

Not only are you a schizophrenic, youre also ASS at maths

6 sides, 6 triangles, 6 area": This is mathematically and geometrically nonsensical.

• A cube has 6 sides. That's correct. Well done, you’ve got the iq of a 5 year old.
• It does not have 6 triangles. A cube has 12 edges and 8 vertices. To get triangles, you must subjectively impose a geometric pattern onto it (like drawing a star tetrahedron inside it). This is not an inherent property of the cube.
• "6 area" is meaningless. Area is measured in square units (e.g., 6 square meters). A cube's surface area is 6 * (side length)^2. The number 6 is a function of it having six faces, not an esoteric code. The volume is (side length)^3. There is no inherent "6" in its area or volume unless you choose a specific side length to make it fit.

Finally, Quoting Acts 7:43 is a complete misuse of the Bible. That verse is Stephen condemning the ancient Israelites for idolatry in the wilderness. It has zero connection to Islam, which didn't exist for another 600 years, or to modern Judaism. You are taking a historical condemnation out of context to slander two major world religions.

@Gengar rate this debunking

Cope Islam cube = kaballah jews tephilin = Represents the cube in saturn = Satan worship

Star of remphan has 6sides 6 small triangle hexagon in the middle(6side)

The mecca was place for the pagan worship Hubal which came from Baal.

@Gengar @barambo @GhostBoySwag

 

[GhostBoySwag]

Cope Islam cube = kaballah jews tephilin = Represents the cube in saturn = Satan worship

Star of remphan has 6sides 6 small triangle hexagon in the middle(6side)

The mecca was place for the pagan worship Hubal which came from Baal.
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@Gengar @barambo @GhostBoySwag

Your not going anywhere with this

 

[ngannou]

Your not going anywhere with this

 

[GhostBoySwag]

Ahahahahah @Ghoulish he shows a video from sam shampoo

 

[ngannou]

Ahahahahah @Ghoulish he shows a video from sam shampoo

I don't agree on him with lots of things but what he says on Islam is correct

 

[Ghoulish]

Ive just debunked this point in infront of you and you’ve yet to respond to it. Retarded much?

 

[Ghoulish]

There is no proof of change, look at dead sea scrolls it is the same

There is alot of proof. And the Dead Sea scrolls also prove this.

• Multiple Different Versions of Key Books: The DSS contain not one, but multiple different versions of books like Exodus, Jeremiah, and Samuel. For example, one of the scrolls of Jeremiah (4QJer-b) follows a Hebrew version that is shorter and arranged differently from the Masoretic Text. This proves that even by the 2nd century BCE, there was no single, standardized "Bible"; multiple versions with significant differences were circulating simultaneously.
• The Septuagint (LXX) Connection: Before the DSS, scholars knew about the Septuagint—the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible started in the 3rd century BCE. The Septuagint often differs from the Masoretic Text in length and content. Critics argued these were just translation errors or changes. The DSS proved the Septuagint was often based on a different, and older, Hebrew source text. For instance, the DSS version of 1 Samuel matches the Septuagint against the Masoretic Text, confirming that the Hebrew text underlying the Greek translation was a genuine variant, not a mistake.
• Significant Theological Omissions/Additions: A famous example is the Book of Psalms. The DSS include psalms not found in the Masoretic Text (like Psalm 151) and arrange them in a different order. This shows the "canon" was not fixed and content was still fluid.

Heres some proof for the New Testament being changed as well. The evidence for textual variation here is even more overwhelming and is admitted by all Christian scholars.

• No Original Manuscripts: Not a single original manuscript of any New Testament book exists. The earliest fragments (like Papyrus 52) are from the 2nd century, and complete copies are from the 4th century (Codex Sinaiticus) and later. There is a gap of generations between the original and our earliest copies.
• Thousands of Variants: There are over 400,000 textual variants among the thousands of Greek New Testament manuscripts. While most are minor spelling errors, thousands involve meaningful differences in theology, narrative, and doctrine.
• Here are some famous examples:
  
  • The Pericope Adulterae (the story of Jesus and the woman caught in adultery, John 7:53-8:11) is absent from the earliest and most reliable Greek manuscripts. It was almost certainly a later addition.
  • The Long Ending of Mark (Mark 16:9-20), which describes snake handling and drinking poison, is not found in the oldest codices, Sinaiticus and Vaticanus. It was added later.
  • The explicit verse on the Trinity (1 John 5:7-8, the Comma Johanneum) is a well-documented later insertion that does not appear in any Greek manuscript before the 15th century

 

[ngannou]

Ive just debunked this point in infront of you and you’ve yet to respond to it. Retarded much?

You didn't debunk anything.

It is a historical fact that they worshipped baal in there before muslim.

 

[ngannou]

There is alot of proof. And the Dead Sea scrolls also prove this.

• Multiple Different Versions of Key Books: The DSS contain not one, but multiple different versions of books like Exodus, Jeremiah, and Samuel. For example, one of the scrolls of Jeremiah (4QJer-b) follows a Hebrew version that is shorter and arranged differently from the Masoretic Text. This proves that even by the 2nd century BCE, there was no single, standardized "Bible"; multiple versions with significant differences were circulating simultaneously.
• The Septuagint (LXX) Connection: Before the DSS, scholars knew about the Septuagint—the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible started in the 3rd century BCE. The Septuagint often differs from the Masoretic Text in length and content. Critics argued these were just translation errors or changes. The DSS proved the Septuagint was often based on a different, and older, Hebrew source text. For instance, the DSS version of 1 Samuel matches the Septuagint against the Masoretic Text, confirming that the Hebrew text underlying the Greek translation was a genuine variant, not a mistake.
• Significant Theological Omissions/Additions: A famous example is the Book of Psalms. The DSS include psalms not found in the Masoretic Text (like Psalm 151) and arrange them in a different order. This shows the "canon" was not fixed and content was still fluid.

Heres some proof for the New Testament being changed as well. The evidence for textual variation here is even more overwhelming and is admitted by all Christian scholars.

• No Original Manuscripts: Not a single original manuscript of any New Testament book exists. The earliest fragments (like Papyrus 52) are from the 2nd century, and complete copies are from the 4th century (Codex Sinaiticus) and later. There is a gap of generations between the original and our earliest copies.
• Thousands of Variants: There are over 400,000 textual variants among the thousands of Greek New Testament manuscripts. While most are minor spelling errors, thousands involve meaningful differences in theology, narrative, and doctrine.
• Here are some famous examples:
  • The Pericope Adulterae (the story of Jesus and the woman caught in adultery, John 7:53-8:11) is absent from the earliest and most reliable Greek manuscripts. It was almost certainly a later addition.
  • The Long Ending of Mark (Mark 16:9-20), which describes snake handling and drinking poison, is not found in the oldest codices, Sinaiticus and Vaticanus. It was added later.
  • The explicit verse on the Trinity (1 John 5:7-8, the Comma Johanneum) is a well-documented later insertion that does not appear in any Greek manuscript before the 15th century

All those ramblings are debunked
when they found the dead sea scrolls.