MARPE is cope stop messaging me about it

[just_gorrlion]

js plierpull boyo

I bet this feels so fucking good, but I doubt it would actually make a difference.

 

[antlers120]

I bet this feels so fucking good, but I doubt it would actually make a difference.

i dont see why it wouldn't if you're consistant

 

[just_gorrlion]

i dont see why it wouldn't if you're consistant

Probably because the contact area between the pliers and your palate/teeth is so small. That force would be localized, and end up damaging the soft tissue or tooth. If you can 3d print a mold of your palate and somehow attach it to the pliers I bet it would kinda maybe work.

Then again it would just tip teeth, your teeth will move long before your midpalate suture gives.

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

Lmao, that's a good way to describe it. Yeah that GirlJaw woman looks like absolute trash, and it's not the asymmetry.
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She honestly looked so much fucking better before. Like your white friend's mom who asks you how your day was and then cooks you lasagna while you guys play BO1 on the PS3 in 2014. Very clear maxilla dropdown too.

I dont understand why these people keep cranking the appliance after seeing their face become uglier. The problem with DJS + implants is you have to trust the surgeon, and it's not a slow change you can monitor in the mirror every day.

Why did you continue cranking after becoming homer simpson?

none of us are able to see our faces becoming uglier because of the inflammation bro

its not really something you can track every day by yourself unless you do CBCT with an ortho who can READ them very very well

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

everything is cope now

it really is tho we're discovering day by day everything that isnt surgery is just bullshit lol

 

[iblamexyz]

I get 30 niggas everyday reaching out about this bullshit ass appliance

the trend is over niggas.. it does jack shit.. we're all onto DJS with Alfi now

yeah the marpe has to end tbh

@rik @Knight

 

[Mentole_]

I get 30 niggas everyday reaching out about this bullshit ass appliance

the trend is over niggas.. it does jack shit.. we're all onto DJS with Alfi now

Damn
So are there any alternatives?

 

[just_gorrlion]

none of us are able to see our faces becoming uglier because of the inflammation bro

I feel like you'd be able to see your maxilla drop down, or grow asymmetrically. Inflammation doesn't "hide" your ugliness. The problem is orthos are pressuring their patients to crank fast as fuck for some reason, I think it has something to do with money.

But if you do MASPE, and I mean take your time with it, 1mm per month if you have to. Then I don't see a universe where you don't see yourself become uglier.

its not really something you can track every day by yourself unless you do CBCT with an ortho who can READ them very very well

You can easily measure your nasion to anterior nasal spine without a CBCT, and stop cranking if it gets longer. You can also measure your intermolar at home. Easily. And your ortho will likely have you doing CBCTs at least every month. AND THEY GIVE YOU THE CBCT FILES TO TAKE HOME.

I have my own CBCTs and measured all kinds of angles and ratios. It's super easy to catch any bad effects if you're just paying attention.

If you see a bad effect you can literally just stop cranking.

Let me ask you something, do you think he looks worse?

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

I feel like you'd be able to see your maxilla drop down, or grow asymmetrically. Inflammation doesn't "hide" your ugliness. The problem is orthos are pressuring their patients to crank fast as fuck for some reason, I think it has something to do with money.

But if you do MASPE, and I mean take your time with it, 1mm per month if you have to. Then I don't see a universe where you don't see yourself become uglier.


You can easily measure your nasion to anterior nasal spine without a CBCT, and stop cranking if it gets longer. You can also measure your intermolar at home. Easily. And your ortho will likely have you doing CBCTs at least every month. AND THEY GIVE YOU THE CBCT FILES TO TAKE HOME.

I have my own CBCTs and measured all kinds of angles and ratios. It's super easy to catch any bad effects if you're just paying attention.
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If you see a bad effect you can literally just stop cranking.

Let me ask you something, do you think he looks worse?
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He looks better, but bwython is planning DJS because it didnt help his breathing.. so the point remains mane

i did a turn ever 2-5 days

the device is still going to go left and right with the least path of resistence delaying a turn by weeks wont really do anything

i would look in the mirror everyday and couldnt tell if it dropped down and im OCD as fuck

the asymmetry yes you could probably see

but if you see either of them you'd have to turn back and then you're down 3k.. and both are going to happen (dropdown/asymmetry) so why even go through the trouble knowing you're going to pull it

 

[just_gorrlion]

He looks better, but bwython is planning DJS because it didnt help his breathing.. so the point remains mane

i did a turn ever 2-5 days

the device is still going to go left and right with the least path of resistence delaying a turn by weeks wont really do anything

i would look in the mirror everyday and couldnt tell if it dropped down and im OCD as fuck

the asymmetry yes you could probably see

but if you see either of them you'd have to turn back and then you're down 3k.. and both are going to happen (dropdown/asymmetry) so why even go through the trouble knowing you're going to pull it

Yeah I think people should be ready to burn 3-10k for MARPE tbh. If im turning and I dont like what I see, i am 100% stopping and dont care about the cash.

I believe it would help me since im so stupidly narrow, and cant fit my tongue on the roof of my mouth. And my vocal tone feels really muffled, not to mention my pronounciation. I'll keep the board updated if I do end up going forward with it.

I'd say if you're above 36mm intermolar, dont even bother.

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

Yeah I think people should be ready to burn 3-10k for MARPE tbh. If im turning and I dont like what I see, i am 100% stopping and dont care about the cash.

I believe it would help me since im so stupidly narrow, and cant fit my tongue on the roof of my mouth. And my vocal tone feels really muffled, not to mention my pronounciation. I'll keep the board updated if I do end up going forward with it.

I'd say if you're above 36mm intermolar, dont even bother.

still think you should do djs with a segmental mane but be my guest

theres a sunk cost fallacy too its really easy to say allt his now but when ur actually in it, its brutal

dont do a MARPE do an FME

 

[just_gorrlion]

still think you should do djs with a segmental mane but be my guest

theres a sunk cost fallacy too its really easy to say allt his now but when ur actually in it, its brutal

dont do a MARPE do an FME

Ah yeah that's what I meant. Im gonna wait for FMA to come out, if it doesnt, I probably just wont do MARPE. Ortho says MARPE is better . With the shitty little elastics for the protraction mask.

 

[rik]

yeah the marpe has to end tbh

@rik @Knight

eviscarate all marpe copers

 

[CopeAndRope12]

I get 30 niggas everyday reaching out about this bullshit ass appliance

the trend is over niggas.. it does jack shit.. we're all onto DJS with Alfi now

ill dm you and we'll see

 

[antlers120]

Probably because the contact area between the pliers and your palate/teeth is so small. That force would be localized, and end up damaging the soft tissue or tooth. If you can 3d print a mold of your palate and somehow attach it to the pliers I bet it would kinda maybe work.

Then again it would just tip teeth, your teeth will move long before your midpalate suture gives.

wider pliers exist

 

[feetlover]

I get 30 niggas everyday reaching out about this bullshit ass appliance

the trend is over niggas.. it does jack shit.. we're all onto DJS with Alfi now

Bro ik DJS is needed, but first you were having a great experience with marpe, you were saying that you liked it. Do you now think that was all cope or is there actually a benefit from marpe but djs just mogs marpe

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

Bro ik DJS is needed, but first you were having a great experience with marpe, you were saying that you liked it. Do you now think that was all cope or is there actually a benefit from marpe but djs just mogs marpe

dont do marpe

djs mogs hard

the benefits i saw all went away

 

[feetlover]

dont do marpe

djs mogs hard

the benefits i saw all went away

also the benefits for the breathing and sleep?

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

also the benefits for the breathing and sleep?

goneish

 

[idontmogYET]

I get 30 niggas everyday reaching out about this bullshit ass appliance

the trend is over niggas.. it does jack shit.. we're all onto DJS with Alfi now

Cope for what exactly? Forward growth?

 

[just_gorrlion]

wider pliers exist

I suppose if you're young enough it would work. But then again you should just use your tongue.

goneish

You might have no needed it. Maybe your sleep problems are caused by something else. Some of us have no space for the tongue and sleep like crap because of it. It also affects my pronunciation and vocal resonnance.

Cope for what exactly? Forward growth?

You get like 1-2mm of forward growth MAX. Which is.... pretty good actually.

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

I suppose if you're young enough it would work. But then again you should just use your tongue.

You might have no needed it. Maybe your sleep problems are caused by something else. Some of us have no space for the tongue and sleep like crap because of it. It also affects my pronunciation and vocal resonnance.


You get like 1-2mm of forward growth MAX. Which is.... pretty good actually.

i had a narrow palate

i got 0 forward

 

[just_gorrlion]

i had a narrow palate

i got 0 forward

You were at 34mm before MARPE, your tongue was probably so fucking crammed and how feels comfortable af.

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

You were at 34mm before MARPE, your tongue was probably so fucking crammed and how feels comfortable af.

naw still narrow ngl

im planning a segmental with the djs too

but u right it was definitely more crammed

 

[goezboom]

it descends you so hard

 

[just_gorrlion]

naw still narrow ngl

im planning a segmental with the djs too

but u right it was definitely more crammed

why'd you say you stopped cranking again? inflammation?

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

it descends you so hard

ye

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

did a sleep study before marpe

and just did one last night

will show before and after so yall can see if it made any diff