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Can anyone direct me to any videos or photos of marpe patient before and after, I want to understand the full effect it has on the face. Specifically the reverse pull headgear on the maxilla
 
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Did you get something?
 
Did you get something?
I haven't found any in depth logs apart from 2 on tiktok, Bwython is one of them and I'll try find the other dude bc his info is really in depth
 
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Stpatty is the other one
 
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Can anyone direct me to any videos or photos of marpe patient before and after, I want to understand the full effect it has on the face. Specifically the reverse pull headgear on the maxilla
MARPE will have good effects no matter the age but headgear will have negligible effects after a cerrtain age (18-19)
 
MARPE will have good effects no matter the age but headgear will have negligible effects after a cerrtain age (18-19)
Wdym by negligible? Like 2-3mm?
 

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